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Posted by Scot (# 2095) on :
 
Most websites attract your garden-variety trolls, but the Ship seems to get a certain percentage of true high-end trolls. Any idiot can post something like "Americans are morons because they can't spell 'Theatre'," but it takes someone really special to ask "What is it about evangelicals that makes them apostate?"

What are your all-time favorite troll bait posts? Extra points if it's been seen here on the Ship.

Double extra points if you go post it somewhere.

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[ 10. January 2004, 18:25: Message edited by: Nightlamp ]
 

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Posted by jlg (# 98) on :
 
SCOT!!! Delete that last sentence immediately and go wash out your mouth with soap!!!!
 

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Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 
Because my father's a minister, I've always gotten a kick out of Gunner. My favorites were his asking for advice on how to get his teenage sons to sit through his sermons and asking anyone if there were any good books on how to preach. All in dyslexic English. He is certainly my favorite. In terms of actually teaching me something about lunatic Christians, EL18 and the Chick tracts were a real education. I can't believe I never ran across Chick before. It's exactly the kind of thing they would have handed out in my church.

As a related tangent, for screaming, flaming entertainment my vote goes to the jounalist who practically swallowed her tongue demanding apologies from Laura for tossing off Mad Medic's statistics on abortions leading to breast cancer. I have never seen anyone go so thermonuclearly ape-shit in my life for that long a period of time. She just nuked and nuked Laura and Erin with phrases like 'Stalinist repression' for a solid week. She lectured Laura on legal issues and Erin on proper site administration. Is there a worse way to pick your battles here? I snorted a lot of coffee through my nose reading those posts. God I wish I had saved them. I'd also like a full dossier on her family of origin.

Hey, how 'bout a Nightmare Board with threads like that and NickA on the Pope as Anti-Christ?
 

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Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
Brojees' posts were rather fun, and in such peculiar English. He was either a 'real' eccentric or a very entertaining sock puppet.
 

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Posted by kenwritez (# 3238) on :
 
I don't think Brojess was a troll, his posting style was such that it came across to me as from someone who was talking, not trolling. YMMV.

I find myself horribly fascinated with the super-troll Erin told us about, "Joanne," (sp?) (directly causing the enactment of many of the Ship's troll policies) in much the same way someone who sees flattened trailer houses on tv half-way wishes they could experience a tornado first-hand: "Was it really that bad? What was it like?"

Barring that, I think Alcuin takes the small round biscuit when he went postal on us after lecturing us with several sanctimonious posts on the superiority of his New Age outlook.
 

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Posted by multipara (# 2918) on :
 
For my money, Ms Byronic( the shrieking London lawyer previously mentioned)and Paddy Leahy ran neck and neck. The horrid thing about those two were that they were dead-set nutters with big axes to grind rather than true trolls.And those were only the Roman subspecies....
 

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Posted by multipara (# 2918) on :
 
Now was she a journo? Yes, JimT, quite right (hope the seraphic one ain't reading this!)

cheers all,

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Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 
Brojees was real, I'm sure, and I take a large portion of the credit for running him off. If I'm not mistaken his last thread was on the subject of a study that claimed more people left 'conservative' churches for 'more liberal ones' rather than the reverse. In true Brojees fashion he dragged out his "could it be..." rhetoric. "Could it be, that as light as the yoke of Christ is, it is still too heavy for some?" It went downhill fast from there and he eventually quit talking. He posted a couple news items after that, but he was soon gone.

I think he tried really hard to move toward tolerance, but he just didn't have the maturity to spend time in the company of people who strongly disagreed with him, or who did not appreciate his dramatics. God I remember his introduction on a War thread where he posted stanza after stanza of youthful pacifist rhetoric and drew withering broadsides from Erin. Poor guy was expecting applause from legions of adoring Christian fans and instead he got a bunch of boos from people holding their noses.
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 

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As a related tangent, for screaming, flaming entertainment my vote goes to the jounalist who practically swallowed her tongue demanding apologies from Laura for tossing off Mad Medic's statistics on abortions leading to breast cancer. .... God I wish I had saved them.

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You mean Ms Byronic on page 8 of the Anglicans/Abortion thread - look at that, it's still in Purgatory. Save it quick. Though there is some of the discussion with Erin on p9 of that thread, you might also like the hosts and abortion debate thread in Styx.
 

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Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 
Crosspost. The reason why I remember her being a journalist was that before she knew that Laura was a lawyer, she got all high and mighty that as a journalist she should damn well know what libel was because she had been thoroughly briefed! I remember thinking, "Yeah, probably she got a briefing every day from her lawyer saying, 'Oh my God, you have got to tone that down or we are going to get sued for sure!'" She still didn't back off the lecturing on libel after she knew Laura was a lawyer. The killer was that the "libel" was Laura saying something like, "Nice try, but no dice. Looks like people on your side of the argument play as fast and loose with the facts as you say the other side does." Matt essentially said, "Yeah I was just slipping it in as a sidelight off the main topic" but Byronic went ballistic. Slander! Lies! Impugning the character of individuals who merely pass along *facts* in the public interest! Retract or I'll sue! Go ahead and ban me, you Stalinist repressors! Ack! Ark! Cough spit sputter.

It was great fun.
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 
re: Brojees. I don't think he was a troll, just somewhat surprised at the nature of the Ship - he simply didn't fit in. There have been others who've had an equally interesting introduction to the Ship and have found a way to stay around and contribute, Brojees just couldn't manage it and decided to simply walk away.

Though I still can't forget that he called me biased. Me, biased? That drew Erins attention. The irony is that my position in the discussion (potential war in Iraq) was far closer to his than the people he was berating!
 

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Posted by The Milkman of Human Kindness (# 7) on :
 
None of these can beat - gasp - blazepascal, the Troll That Would Not Go Away...
 

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Posted by Professor Yaffle (# 525) on :
 
Blazepascal. Remind me, is he the one who kept logging on under a new ID and then posting the kind of anti-Palestinian rhetoric which would have warmed the heart of the late Meir Kahane?

My personal favourite was the chap who stoutly maintained that David Icke might have had a point about the New World Order, including the lizards. Although a dishonourable mention must go to Eleighteen. "Chick tracts get read". They do indeed, accompanied by a feeling of appalled fascination by anyone with an IQ above 60.

At the risk of sounding incredibly sucky, it is a testament to the work of the hosts and admins that this place is as sane as it is given a) the number of loonies in cyberspace and b) the tendency of said loonies to gravitate to certain issues and c) the fact that said loonies have way too much time on their hands.
 

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Posted by Erin (# 2) on :
 
blazepascal has disqualified himself from this thread by virtue of having apologized to me and tomb for everything that happened in the past.

The troll to end all trolls was Joanne. No other troll has involved us in three board wars.
 

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Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
JimT,

I had forgotten the whole Ms. Byronic episode. Wow. I felt totally gobsmacked by the whole thing. Your characterisation of it gave me the best laugh I've had this weekend (though as the weekend started with the funeral of a dear friend, it really had only up to go).

Urk! Libel! Urk! Stalinism! Ack! Conspiracy!
 

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Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
And can I say that MtMM (not a troll, I hasten to add) had posts of what must be prize-winning length on that thread. Way to go, Matt!
 

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Posted by The Milkman of Human Kindness (# 7) on :
 
Alcuin wasn't a troll, but he was well weird.

He was the guy who told us all that Hitler was about five levels more ascended than anyone here (and presumably had more hitpoints) among other things.
 

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Posted by Tim V (# 830) on :
 
The Greatest Troll Ever is widely regarded as t his one. This particular one had a lifespan of over a year, attracted thousands of responses and even managed to get someone expelled from school.
It has to be said: if you want to plumb the depths of human ignorance, spite and anger then you can't do much better than USENET. Nothing else comes close.
 

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Posted by Icarus Coot (# 220) on :
 
Actually, I think duchess' sig is one of the best innocent pieces of trollery around at the moment:

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"Faith and religion are two different animals, but there are sincere people of faith involved in religion, just as there are insincere religious people who claim faith, but Christ dosent have space for a doctrine of hate. " - Priest SoF May 9, 2003

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(You are my fave Calvinist babe, duchess honest, I just think you have bad taste in sigs)

I dunno the context, but when I read that, I read: "What I ('Priest') do is Faith, what you do is Religion. I will concede that even in the Anti-Christ's maze of Religion (which is anything that isn't My kind of religion in case you're wondering) there are some (misguided) people of Faith. Just as there are some insincere religious people who claim faith. Notice I've been hazy about the proportionate distribution? That's 'cos anyone in Your Religion without My kind of Faith is one of the insincere religious people who 'claim' faith. But I'm not actually going to come out and say that. Oh and. Christ doesn't have space for a doctrine of hate. Which doesn't diminish the fact that you are still wrong by the way."

Thankyou.

 

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Posted by Nightlamp (# 266) on :
 
Ah there was the guy with all the numbers and the bunch of people from that wierd church who kept trying to rejoin.
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
SOnds intriguing, Nightlamp. Who would that be?

(Tellme, oh Father, why is this board different from all other boards?)

Ok, I have been wanting to ask this question for a couple weeks, but was afraid it would start a whole big *THING*. One of the first posts I read on the boards ever ever ever was one titled "WELSH" on the Hell board. I seem to remember the author getting at least suspended over it. Does anyone know what I am talking about, and was it real trollery or an argument gone out of hand?
 

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Posted by Nightlamp (# 266) on :
 
Mr Numbers was John D. Miller. One day he was starting threads I was replying and being rude and tomb was deleting them. It is odd to post a reply and for it to vanish into the Bermuda triangle.

[ 11. May 2003, 18:25: Message edited by: Nightlamp ]
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
Ahhhhh! I think I kind of remember that.
 

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Posted by Amos (# 44) on :
 
Oh, I well remember the Welsh/Welch thread, Kelly. That was a continuation of something that began in MW, and involved Cosmo and Fiddleback.
 

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Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
Oh yes, the Welch Squelch!

Then there was Shaitan, and there was also someone who insisted in posting with lots of capital letters to emphasise his highly predictable posts, and the guy who didn't last very long because his trollery was a love of text messaging.....
There was also a chap, whose name I don't remember (but something 'clever') who I'm sure was spoofing it as a fundamentalist - I wondered if it was Ham'n'Eggs in one of his many manifestations, but I wasn't quite sure.
 

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Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
mt_tomb

there was also a chap I had to report as his website was for paedophiles; and a chap who mostly posted on the Caption Contest when drunk(?) but also a few times on the boards, and became very offensive; I think he was the reason the posts on the cc had to be monitored for a while before being accepted. Sorry, I'm not very good at remembering names, but I expect you can remember who I mean.

Phew, there have been quite a lot! Sweet nostalgia.....
 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 
The Pestilent Penitent (and his various other names that I cannot correctly pronounce) really made me laugh. Some of my fondest moments in Hell were devoted to being creatively mean to him.
 

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Posted by Black Dog (# 2344) on :
 

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Originally posted by Professor Yaffle:
Blazepascal. Remind me, is he the one who kept logging on under a new ID and then posting the kind of anti-Palestinian rhetoric which would have warmed the heart of the late Meir Kahane?

My personal favourite was the chap who stoutly maintained that David Icke might have had a point about the New World Order, including the lizards. Although a dishonourable mention must go to Eleighteen. "Chick tracts get read". They do indeed, accompanied by a feeling of appalled fascination by anyone with an IQ above 60.

At the risk of sounding incredibly sucky, it is a testament to the work of the hosts and admins that this place is as sane as it is given a) the number of loonies in cyberspace and b) the tendency of said loonies to gravitate to certain issues and c) the fact that said loonies have way too much time on their hands.

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Originally posted by Nightlamp:
I think you are right about John D miller he was a crusader for something but never quite worked out what.

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The fourth book of the Pentateuch, maybe?
 

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Posted by sarkycow (# 1012) on :
 
Just for you RooK, The Pest and the Sinner.

Did the pest and the sinner actually rack up the 'most name changes in a single thread' between them, or is that just my imagination?

Still, it was a good troll: I went to England once, and visited a uni CU and I can definitively say the British church is shit.

Viki
 

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Posted by The Milkman of Human Kindness (# 7) on :
 

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Originally posted by sarkycow:
Just for you RooK, The Pest and the Sinner.

Did the pest and the sinner actually rack up the 'most name changes in a single thread' between them, or is that just my imagination?

Still, it was a good troll: I went to England once, and visited a uni CU and I can definitively say the British church is shit.

Viki

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Originally posted by Nightlamp:
I think you are right about John D miller he was a crusader for something but never quite worked out what.

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Originally posted by The Milkman of Human Kindness:

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Originally posted by sarkycow:
Just for you RooK, The Pest and the Sinner.

Did the pest and the sinner actually rack up the 'most name changes in a single thread' between them, or is that just my imagination?

Still, it was a good troll: I went to England once, and visited a uni CU and I can definitively say the British church is shit.

Viki

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I'd forgotten how utterly hilarious that thread was. I had the biggest blast there ever.

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Originally posted by The Milkman of Human Kindness:

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Originally posted by sarkycow:
Just for you RooK, The Pest and the Sinner.

Did the pest and the sinner actually rack up the 'most name changes in a single thread' between them, or is that just my imagination?

Still, it was a good troll: I went to England once, and visited a uni CU and I can definitively say the British church is shit.

Viki

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I'd forgotten how utterly hilarious that thread was. I had the biggest blast there ever.

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The first couple of pages of that are the best fun. In my opinion, it goes downhill from there, but what do I know?

Milkman, who was the guy who had a couple of rants on the boards then went into sending abusive pm's? Well, kind of abusive; one was along the lines of 'back off, I'm a scientist', as I recall.

I think he was the precursor to Oh I get it Now which is still my favourite hell thread.

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Originally posted by Erin:
blazepascal has disqualified himself from this thread by virtue of having apologized to me and tomb for everything that happened in the past.

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There's hope for everyone, isn't there?


 

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Posted by Black Dog (# 2344) on :
 
phwoof, phwoof,

If I'd have thought I was going to win I would have had something prepared.

Phwoof.
 

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Posted by Ley Druid (# 3246) on :
 
Lets see if I understand this MasterTroll Theatre.
The Troll is watched by an audience of people who might make comments to reinforce their surveillance and disapproval of the Troll's behavior. Other people learn that they are also always watched like the Troll and learn to modify their behavior accordingly.
I've always had a soft spot for Foucault; this sounds like a virtual panopticon.

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Any individual, taken almost at random, can operate the machine ... Similarly, it does not matter what motive animates him: the curiosity of the indiscreet, the malice of a child, the thirst for knowledge of a philosopher who wishes to visit this museum of human nature, or the perversity of those who take pleasure in spying and punishing. Foucault's Panopticism

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Originally posted by JimT:
He does for Catholicism what Gunner just can't seem to get done for Anglicanism.

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JimT, I should post some witty banter here to match yours, but I can't stop giggling long enough.
 

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Posted by Presleyterian (# 1915) on :
 

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Laura wrote: For incomprehensibility, I give it an 8.5. For pretentiousness a 10.

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Considering that Foucault himself usually rates only an 8.0 and a 9.5 (OK, occasionally a perfect 10 from the crooked Bulgarian judge, but only because he hates those cute Canadians with the matching sweaters -- and no, I don't mean RooK and Raspberry Rabbit), I think the student has finally outclassed the master.


 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 

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Originally posted by Black Dog:
He used to take the number of bricks used to make the great pyramids, multiply it by a random number and come to the conclusion that they were constructed to appease the devil or something similar.

Nutter.

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I can't believe I missed him!

JimT, you have officially made the center spread of Tigerbeat for me. You are the Fabio of sarcasm.


 

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Posted by Captain IT (# 3550) on :
 
To quote the axe-wielding bunny:

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JimT, you have officially made the center spread of Tigerbeat for me. You are the Fabio of sarcasm.

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Originally posted by Laura:
Thanks, Scot. I was groping for the right words to characterize his post. For incomprehensibility, I give it an 8.5. For pretentiousness a 10.

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Originally posted by Presleyterian:
Considering that Foucault himself usually rates only an 8.0 and a 9.5 ... I think the student has finally outclassed the master.

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Presley:

I was once up all night writing a paper, an extended exegesis on Foucault's Archaeology of Knowledge, which I found nearly impossible to understand. Then I had this brief enlightenment when I thought I'd "got it". Words flowed like wine. The finished paper (six hours and and a pack of cigarettes later) was splendidly opaque. I got an A+, and raves from the professor. The moment passed, though, and I'm back to finding Foucault pretentious and incomprehensible. Every time I read that paper I wrote, in awe and wonder, I understand it less. I'm not sure whether this is a good or a bad thing. The professor still thinks I'm one of his best students.
 

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Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
About 5 minutes ago, in Purgatory, the entity that shapes the bits by the name of "Gunner" posted this:

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I have heard that Catholics consider that they are NOT a denomination like all other churches - rather they are the church.

How do catholics aregue this point out? And if it is the case do they consider that other Christian bodies are there for the conversion?

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Originally posted by ken:
About 5 minutes ago, in Purgatory, the entity that shapes the bits by the name of "Gunner" posted this:

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I have heard that Catholics consider that they are NOT a denomination like all other churches - rather they are the church.

How do catholics aregue this point out? And if it is the case do they consider that other Christian bodies are there for the conversion?

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Just sit back & admire the Troll!

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Yes, as trolls go, Gunner isn't bad is he?
 

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Posted by OgtheDim (# 3200) on :
 
Gunner is obvious. He never replies. And, he whines when called on it.

Who needs an atomic clock: just count on Gunner for a troll thread once every 10 days.
 

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Posted by Merseymike (# 3022) on :
 
Laura ; Foucault is meant to be incomprehensible. That's the idea. I teach Foucault and I still think its difficult.

As for Gunner - what is so abhorrent is that this man is bloody ordained. It is almost enough, alone, to demolish belief in apostolic succession and vocation.
 

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Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 

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Originally posted by OgtheDim:

Who needs an atomic clock: just count on Gunner for a troll thread once every 10 days.

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Surely this was done on the denominations thread that you started and have yet to respond to any comments on.

Thread closed.

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Yes, as trolls go, Gunner isn't bad is he?

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Strictly a spent force, I'd have thought.

The essence of a great troll is that he or she argues for a position, in a provocative and offensive manner but in such a way that they provoke their interlocutor into moving from a position of studied rationality to screaming abuse at them. You start off by saying things like: "Whilst certain superficial critics may say that Aquinas' Summa Contra Gentiles shows an undue dependence on Aristotelianism" (well I do, but then I'm nearly as pretentious as Ley Druid) and end up by saying things like "Originally posted by lying Nazi fuckwit scumbag".

Despite the fact that it was possible to hear Alan telepathing "tosser" down the phone wires when he closed down Fr. Gunner's latest thread, I imagine that fewer and fewer people will bother to respond to Gunner's posts as they are patently bogus.

I think that a great troll does it unconciously. As Black Dog has outed himself already on this thread, I point to his performance on the BNP thread as a demonstration of his expertise.
 

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Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
I can't get my head around Gunner

My favourite was still m_t tomb
 

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Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 

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Originally posted by Professor Yaffle:
You start off by saying things like: "Whilst certain superficial critics may say that Aquinas' Summa Contra Gentiles shows an undue dependence on Aristotelianism" and end up by saying things like "Originally posted by lying Nazi fuckwit scumbag".

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Thanks for the laugh!

Reader Alexis
 

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Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 
Yaffle, thank you a million times for the BNP thread. That was Hi-fucking-larious. Start to finish. I loved "Now before anybody starts calling me a troll..." I loved, "I've had asylum seekers come to my door looking for food, not that I mind, but isn't the government supposed to be keeping these people off my doorstep?" I also loved the very consistent misspelling of waht, especially when a point of extreme idiocy was being made.

See, I don't read many "British-oriented" threads. But that one was the political equivilent of the Chick tract ones. In fact, I think Black Dog is EL18. He has the same theme: I'm not a Nazi or anything; I'm an extreme conservative with a social conscience (ha ha said he!) and while I don't agree with Chick or the BNP I perfectly understand where they are coming from intellectually. Can't we rationally discuss their points of real concern? If they didn't have at least some kind of validity they wouldn't be so popular. How do you explain their popularity?

But Wood is right: that Pestilent guy was way better. Not because he was any less obvious but because he was really funny and a decent writer for a troll. He brought out the best in Wood, too. That thread is a classic.

Black Dog, from the looks of the BNP thread you are a garden variety troll. But I will say that I laughed my ass off when someone said, "No one is trying to call you stupid..." They of course were and you of course...
 

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Posted by Paul W (# 1450) on :
 
Black Dog
Sooty Puss

We seem to have a theme going. My money's on the next one calling themselves something like "Dark Horse".

Paul W
 

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Posted by Black Dog (# 2344) on :
 
Always one step ahead lads and ladettes, always one step ahead.
 

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Posted by Ben26 (# 4201) on :
 
was Sooty Puss a troll then?
 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 

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Originally babbled by le Chien Noir:
Always one step ahead lads and ladettes, always one step ahead.

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Originally posted by Icarus Coot:
Actually, I think duchess' sig is one of the best innocent pieces of trollery around at the moment:

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"Faith and religion are two different animals, but there are sincere people of faith involved in religion, just as there are insincere religious people who claim faith, but Christ dosent have space for a doctrine of hate. " - Priest SoF May 9, 2003

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(You are my fave Calvinist babe, duchess honest, I just think you have bad taste in sigs)

I dunno the context, but when I read that, I read: "What I ('Priest') do is Faith, what you do is Religion. I will concede that even in the Anti-Christ's maze of Religion (which is anything that isn't My kind of religion in case you're wondering) there are some (misguided) people of Faith. Just as there are some insincere religious people who claim faith. Notice I've been hazy about the proportionate distribution? That's 'cos anyone in Your Religion without My kind of Faith is one of the insincere religious people who 'claim' faith. But I'm not actually going to come out and say that. Oh and. Christ doesn't have space for a doctrine of hate. Which doesn't diminish the fact that you are still wrong by the way."

Thankyou.

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Argh! Ship's Gentleman, You KNOW I didn't mean it THAT WAY! I thought to myself he meant to say that one can love God and not have religion...that hate was not a Christian virtue. I sadly did not read in detail...I am so now changing my sig line.


 

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Posted by Moo (# 107) on :
 
If anyone would like to see a sample of Jim Powell's output, here is a thread in Limbo.

Moo
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
(pinning RooK's centerfold to wall)
 

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Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 
Moo, Jim seems like a bit of a minimalist. My favorite there was the use of an obvious sock puppet, chaplaineric, to get the conversation going. What tickled me is the Oklahoma connection and chaplaineric's description of his interests: Liturgy, baseball, and pro wrestling.



Funny thing is, my father always loved pro wrestling and introduced me to it with "Georgeous George" in the 50's. I remember asking my father time and time again as a 5 year old exactly why he found fake fighting and mouthing off so funny. He could never stop laughing long enough to give a coherent explanation.

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I'll bet that his eyes veritably brim over with tears when he recalls the triumphant joy of showing his mommy "what he had done"... alas, an accomplishment that he has been doomed never to equal since.

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Too, too good my friend. I had been thinking myself about Ley Druid's over self-estimation of our community aversion to his ilk as watching out for "the plague." Oooo the danger. What it's more like is watching for the odd plastic turd that some product of defective parenting has placed in the offering plate.
 

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Posted by RooK (# 1852) on :
 
I believe that our community aversion to trolling is a sensible reaction to something unpleasant. Not dangerous so much as just disgusting.

Trolling is essentially conversation-rape. The victims are unwittingly goaded into an argument that they did not want, and they are humiliated for the satisfaction of someone else. Indeed, I suspect that the primary motivation for trolling is not the actual engagement, but rather the perception of power that could be derived from it.

I suppose that the kind thing to do would be to help them overcome the social/psychological limitation that prevents them from having consensual conversations... But I can't be bothered. They're too much fun to kick around. Their own foolish self-importance makes them ideal targets for practicing on.
 

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Posted by Ley Druid (# 3246) on :
 
Thanks for the insightful comments.
Some of you seem to be having some fun.
Why? I really think it would be neat to ask why?

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Why ask why? --Budweiser

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Why ask why? --Budweiser

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Originally posted by Moo:
If anyone would like to see a sample of Jim Powell's output, here is a thread in Limbo.

Moo

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Wow, it all comes flooding back!

And also Shaun and Pasco thrown in for good measure!
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 
Ah yes, Jim Powell and his buddy Max Chapman (two fellows so close it's difficult to tell them apart ). The memories of my first few days hosting, a baptism of fire as it were.

All those "I know I'm leaving, but..."'s on (for example) page 3 of this thread. And the classics!

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Originally posted by Max Chapman on p4 of the same thread:
Hey all you hosts....I believe that commandment #5 should be upheld. These passages have proven many of you wrong, now it's time to own up to it......On 2nd thought, forget it. I don't need any accolades from a bunch of idiotic, arrogant, self-righteous losers such as yall.

That's right. You can't be a Christian & doubt the validity of the Bible.

Repent or keep a lot of ice handy. From what I understand, Hell is quite warm

<snip>

PS: Erin, you dissapoint me. I thought a down to Earth southerner such as yourself would be more grounded in Faith. You act just like the self-righteous Brits...what a shame

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It was so nice to see him in the Cafe a few month ago
 

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Posted by Black Dog (# 2344) on :
 

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Originally posted by RooK:

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Originally babbled by le Chien Noir:
Always one step ahead lads and ladettes, always one step ahead.

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This, fellow Denizens, is the mark of a truly tortured soul. Not only is this morally inept fucklick habitually seeking attention even though all he can manage to attract is ire, he has somehow managed to convince himself that by virtue of being an annoying child that he has actually accomplished something. I suspect that his life has been a disappointing downward slide since his pinnacle achievement: potty training. I'll bet that his eyes veritably brim over with tears when he recalls the triumphant joy of showing his mommy "what he had done"... alas, an accomplishment that he has been doomed never to equal since.

At least his trollness has some amusement value here in Hell, even though he's not a particularly talented one.

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Well... Strictly speaking I would argue that I'm not a troll, not one at all really. In fact I'm stunned at the sugestion. It was all you lot who have jumped to that conclusion.
 

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Posted by Nightlamp (# 266) on :
 
It's quite confusing looking back with all those trolls with the same avatars.
 

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Posted by IntellectByProxy (# 3185) on :
 
'Jumped to' 'that conclusion'...?

By a man's works shall ye know him.

In other words: if it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, chances are it's a duck.

How is your bridge these days?
 

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Posted by The Milkman of Human Kindness (# 7) on :
 
Actually, ThinkyBlackDogEblis, calling you a troll is in a strange way giving you the benefit of the doubt.

The alternative is just too horrible to contemplate...
 

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Posted by Black Dog (# 2344) on :
 
The alternative is that I'm Graham norton in disguise.
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 
As the Milkman said, too horrible to contemplate
 

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Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Ah yes, Jim Powell and his buddy Max Chapman (two fellows so close it's difficult to tell them apart

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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Uhhh... magazine aimed at teenage girls which features hunky teen idol pics and information? Popular in the late '70's/ early '80's? Is there a UK equivalent?

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Originally posted by Ley Druid:
Thanks for the insightful comments.
Some of you seem to be having some fun.
Why? I really think it would be neat to ask why?

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Originally posted by ChastMastr:
Tiger Beat

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Originally posted by Sleeper:
Are all Op's trolling to a certain extent, being overly provactive, over stating the case to get a debate going, especailly in hell?

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Originally posted by ken:
both are aggravating and difficult to understand.

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Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 

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Originally posted by ken:
I have trouble telling Ley Druid and Jesuitical Lad apart. I'm suspect they must be aspects of the same being. They use very different styles, but both are aggravating and difficult to understand.
And I've only ever heard one message from either of them.

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provactive

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Originally posted by Jesuitical Lad:

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Originally posted by ken:
both are aggravating and difficult to understand.

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Maybe that's the "Jesuitical" part.
 

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Posted by kenwritez (# 3238) on :
 
I agree with Laura. I find JL's writing style nicely concrete and clear, and his posts quite easy to understand, but not so easy to agree with when we're debating RCC doctrine and practice, as he unfortunately remains locked in that Romish iron grip.

Despite his appalling lack of iconoclasm, I believe he drinks G&Ts, and I like his sense of humor, so he does have at least two saving graces.
 

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Posted by OgtheDim (# 3200) on :
 
I'm with Laura and that other ken man,

JL maybe annoyingly firm in his beliefs, and thus is quite easy to bounce around like a nice game of tethercat, but he's no troll.
 

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Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 

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They [JL,LD] use very different styles, but both are aggravating and difficult to understand.

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Originally posted by OgtheDim:
...annoyingly firm in his beliefs...

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Originally posted by JimT:
Why do you ask why, LD? What jollies do you get from that?

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Originally posted by JimT:
Brojees was real, I'm sure, and I take a large portion of the credit for running him off.

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Originally posted by Icarus Coot:

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"Faith and religion are two different animals, but there are sincere people of faith involved in religion, just as there are insincere religious people who claim faith, but Christ dosent have space for a doctrine of hate. " - Priest SoF May 9, 2003

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I dunno the context, but when I read that, I read: "What I ('Priest') do is Faith, what you do is Religion. I will concede that even in the Anti-Christ's maze of Religion (which is anything that isn't My kind of religion in case you're wondering) there are some (misguided) people of Faith. Just as there are some insincere religious people who claim faith. Notice I've been hazy about the proportionate distribution? That's 'cos anyone in Your Religion without My kind of Faith is one of the insincere religious people who 'claim' faith. But I'm not actually going to come out and say that. Oh and. Christ doesn't have space for a doctrine of hate. Which doesn't diminish the fact that you are still wrong by the way."

Thankyou.

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I'm honoured to be accused of trolling by such a master troll as Icarus Coot.

Thankyou kind sir.

 

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Posted by Erin (# 2) on :
 


Which reminds me... I need to schedule time for a "talk" with Ancient Mariner, to "thank" him for the publicity that's led to the influx of total fucktards lately.


 

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Posted by Priest (# 4313) on :
 
Shit attracts flys.


 

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Posted by The Milkman of Human Kindness (# 7) on :
 

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Originally posted by JimT:
Brojees was real, I'm sure, and I take a large portion of the credit for running him off.

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Originally posted by Priest:
Shit attracts flys.

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Originally posted by Black Dog:
So, what is the list of names then for your witch hunt? Its like 1950's USA in here at the moment.

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Originally posted by Black Dog:
So, what is the list of names then for your witch hunt? Its like 1950's USA in here at the moment.

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Originally posted by IntellectByProxy:

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Originally posted by Priest:
Shit attracts flys.

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Well they're hovering around your spelling then.

It's 'flies'

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Come on, how long did you preview your post before you submitted it.

 

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Posted by IntellectByProxy (# 3185) on :
 

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Originally posted by Priest:

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Originally posted by IntellectByProxy:

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Originally posted by Priest:
Shit attracts flys.

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Well they're hovering around your spelling then.

It's 'flies'

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Come on, how long did you preview your post before you submitted it.

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Originally posted by Black Dog:
So, what is the list of names then for your witch hunt? Its like 1950's USA in here at the moment.

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Originally posted by Mousethief:

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Originally posted by ChastMastr:
Tiger Beat

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David, why does it come as no surprise that you are the one to post the link to this site?

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Originally posted by Laura:
Is "Brendo" like "Bondo(TM)"?

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I keep thinking of Brendon Fraiser...that is not good. He is certainly not a troll...<slap!> ok...I am ok now.

My favorite troll right now is sooty puss aka some other alias I can not think of right now(who changed his name). Classic excuse "I don't speak English well". I enjoyed too watching the a8& flaming on that one.
 

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Posted by Jesuitical Lad (# 2575) on :
 
to all those who don't consider me a troll. Very reassuring...

(and very wise, too. I've made a list of y'all, and when the RomeBot Uprising finally does take place, you'll be entitled to continued existence as Vatican slaves.)
 

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Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jesuitical Lad:
to all those who don't consider me a troll. Very reassuring...

(and very wise, too. I've made a list of y'all, and when the RomeBot Uprising finally does take place, you'll be entitled to continued existence as Vatican slaves.)

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Originally posted by Jesuitical Lad:
to all those who don't consider me a troll. Very reassuring...

(and very wise, too. I've made a list of y'all, and when the RomeBot Uprising finally does take place, you'll be entitled to continued existence as Vatican slaves.)

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Is the Vatican fire proof then?
 

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Posted by Professor Yaffle (# 525) on :
 
Ruth - given the purge of "nominal catholic" clergy that will doubtless occur, after the Romebot uprising I doubt the poor fellow will have the energy, given the amount of work he'll have on.

JL - I don't think you're a troll, but if it's all the same to you I propose to perish on the barricades. Look for a woodpecker with a 39 button cassock, mirror shades and an uzi.
 

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Posted by Sine Nomine (# 3631) on :
 

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Originally posted by RuthW:
do you suppose I could be assigned as housekeeper to a goodlooking, straight priest on whom I could practice my Episcopalian wiles? Just to tell how firm his beliefs really are, of course.

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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
Line forms to the rear.

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Rear of who exactly?

Professor, kindly save me a spot on the barricades if you don't mind. Thanks much.
 

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Posted by OgtheDim (# 3200) on :
 
Hmmm...as a pacifist, I won't be on the barricades. I'll probably get roasted alive in a golden calf though, if history repeats itself.
 

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Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jesuitical Lad:
to all those who don't consider me a troll. Very reassuring...

(and very wise, too. I've made a list of y'all, and when the RomeBot Uprising finally does take place, you'll be entitled to continued existence as Vatican slaves.)

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Originally posted by JimT
Ley Druid's swipe at the whole Ship for having self-defeating threads like this one was called "trolling" by Scot, was vigorously seconded by me, and has been rebutted by...no one.

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Originally posted by JimT:
Who was is that said organizations must recognize 'the other' and work to eliminate it? I argued against it but now find myself in favor. Ley Druid, join or leave.

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I have a high regard for the SOF and all shipmates (Trolls included).

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Originally posted by JimT:
The Hosts have a huge tolerance for trolls and trolling.

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You can troll here forever if that's what trips your trigger. All you have to do is keep making empty apologies and then going on your merry way.

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Originally posted by JimT:
So Black Dog continues to post because...

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Originally posted by JimT:
I think Ley Troll gives empty apologies and empty flattery to stay in the game. Thus, Hosts and Admins have to hope he will go away or that people will just start ignoring him.

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Originally posted by Black Dog:
The alternative is that I'm Graham norton in disguise.

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Originally posted by Lurker:
I also seem to remember someone who used 'the c-word' as his username.

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That, IIRC, was a friend of Regina Coley.
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
( My witty reply to that being...)

Impossible. Graham Notron is a connoseiuer of eclectic talent. If you were his alter ego, by now you would have hired kenwritez as a sketch writer, Erin as a bodyguard, Chastmastr as one of the runway escorts, and you would be dating Merseymike. And you would have a sly but sweet "Since you axed" segment wokred into your program. So, when I see the contract in the mail....
 

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Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 

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Originally posted by Ley Druid to Scot on the Catholics thread:
Or what? Wadda ya gonna do about it?

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Originally posted by Ley Druid to me on this thread:
Or what?

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Originally posted by Lurker:
Who was Joanne? I've heard her name a few times. She must have been before my time.

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Originally posted by Priest:
I'm honoured to be accused of trolling by such a master troll as Icarus Coot.

Thankyou kind sir.

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Originally posted by JimT:
That does it for me. A troll would never be so obviously and repetitively childish. I'm convinced: Ley Druid is not troll.

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Originally posted by Icarus Coot:
More Orthodox wouldn't go astray too.

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Y'all need to work harder at attracting us.

Reader Alexis
 

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Posted by sarkycow (# 1012) on :
 
JimT, if you have an argument with Ley Druid, then start your own personal argument thread (having paid me first) to have it out with him. If you don't have an argument with him, then I expect you will no longer being posting attacks and arguments on him on this thread.

Viki, hellhost
 

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Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 
Sorry for the diversion. I've had my say.
 

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Posted by fatprophet (# 3636) on :
 

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Originally posted by JimT:
Sorry for the diversion. I've had my say.

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Originally posted by RooK:
Note to self:
Find some way to get even with Scot for starting this thread.

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Originally posted by fatprophet:
these are persons of profound genius. (takes one to know one)

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quote:

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Originally posted by fatprophet elsewhere:

So beware foolish christians. For I am Legion and we are Many (i.e. really have gone bonkers)

<snip>

P.S [Fuckety Fuck] if you have a problem with that.

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Originally posted by Moo:
Apparently Joann posted huge amounts of stuff in a very short space of time by copying and pasting.

Suse spent one night deleting Joann's posts. There were more than two hundred in eight hours.

I think this happened in January, 1999.

Moo

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Wow, an even higher posting-per-minute rate than Smudgie! I am impressed.......

(but Smudgie's posts are much nicer, of course. )
 

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Posted by ChrisT (# 62) on :
 
I think I missed Joanne as well (I've not been here quite as long as the Milkman). But she sounds wonderful. Maybe we ought to pcopy up some of her posts here, in the hopes that some of the current very mediocre-quality trolls will learn how to do things properly.
 

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Posted by Ley Druid (# 3246) on :
 

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Originally posted by Scot:
FWIW, I think LD might actually believe some of the stuff he posts.

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Originally posted by Moo:
I first heard the story of Joann from Suse.

Last year there was a thread in the Styx on the history of the ship. Simon and Erin told some more about Joann's huge number of posts, which Erin, Simon, or Suse promptly deleted.

I don't know what happened to that Styx thread. It may have been deleted.

Moo

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Originally posted by Ley Druid:
Have I posted anything on this thread that you don't believe? What is to be done with people, trolls or otherwise, to disabuse them of their unbelieveable posts?

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Originally posted by Merseymike:
Feeding egos, I think.

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Originally posted by Merseymike:
I can't see why anyone should be eulogised simply because of past or present involvement, personally.

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I can't see why anyone would want to ask about the memories of one of the longest-standing members of this website on a thread called "History of the Ship". Seems ludicrous to me.

We should all be grilling the newbies about the history of Ship guidelines, and what happened 4 years ago, rather than one of the people who have made this place what it is.

Far be it from me to hold in esteem someone who has devoted more time and energy to making sure that we can all have this resource to use. I don't want to be caught praising the people responsible for creating one of my favourite places - be it virtual or real. That would be silly, wouldn't it?

Pull the other one, Merseymike.
 

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Posted by duchess (# 2764) on :
 
it is called "BITING THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU" Merseymike, something you seem to enjoy doing.



 

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Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
It's just a sign of how long the Ship has been around now (and all credit to its creators and maintainers) that we have got to the stage where we all feel nostalgic for the 'past'. If it wasn't for the dedication of many - and the extreme dedication, nay vocation, of a few, then there would be no past, or present either. So there!
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
You've got shit timing, MM.
 

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Posted by Kenwritez (# 3238) on :
 

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Originally posted by Merseymike:
hehe...now that is amusing. I can't see why anyone should be eulogised simply because of past or present involvement,personally.

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Well, then please peruse the Miss Molly eulogies and afterward, return here and let us know if you still hold to this.
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
Amen, kenwritez.
 

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Posted by Erin (# 2) on :
 

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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
You've got shit timing, MM.

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Originally posted by Scot:
I'm afraid trolls cannot be cured, only pilloried.

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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Erin, did you seriously think that someone who has said on numerous occasions that the Ship is "just a website" and doesn't have any desire to be part of the community here would even be aware of the amount of prayer support that is expressed in All Saints, let alone care enough to read the relevant threads?

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Well, I know he goes into AS and knows what it's for, evidently he tried to organize a meet with people who don't matter because it's "just a website".
 

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Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
MM, I think it is vital that you do read AS, because it gives you information about certain shipmates which have a bearing on what you do or do not say to them when you post. eg. would you want to make a derogatory post about mothers to someone whose mother has just died? So it always pays to be aware of how others in the community are faring.
A little smidgen of human empathy wouldn't do any harm, hey?
 

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Posted by Erin (# 2) on :
 
But Chorister, it's "just a website". No one here matters. Haven't you been taking notes?
 

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Posted by Merseymike (# 3022) on :
 
I think I've only been in to All Saints two or three times. Yes, I know what its about, but I don't read the threads there. I'm sure not everyone reads all the sections....

Having thought about all this, there seems to be clear expectations as to how we should approach this site - as a community, to which we should be prepared to invest emotional as well as intellectual energy - and both acknowledgment and agreement with the hierarchical way in which it is organised and those in the positions which afford them 'superiority'.

I recognise I'm not on that wavelength and that most people like the ethos of whats being done here.
I like the discussions, but I don't think I feel the same way about this place that many others appear to.
 

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Posted by Erin (# 2) on :
 
No, Mike, no one is expected to read everything or even every board. However, the fact that you turned on me like a junkyard dog a day after I posted that I was being tested for leukemia and lymphoma and various other diseases seems a little too convenient.

Bottom line: I don't really care how you view Ship of Fools. What I care about, and what others seem to care about, too, is how you behave. For a majority of people here, it is a community of sorts. You are free to not view it that way. However, you are NOT free to treat other people on here like they are unimportant, irrelevant, and meaningless based on the fact that "it's just a website". If you walk into a community or club or whatever, you either (a) respect the ethos and the intent of the place or (b) find another place to belong.

You can choose (c) to be a complete git about the whole thing, of course, but really, the only person you're damaging is yourself.

[ 21. May 2003, 10:41: Message edited by: Erin ]
 

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Posted by Merseymike (# 3022) on :
 
I had no idea about your illness. You can choose to believe that or not, but its the truth.
 

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Posted by eutychus (# 3081) on :
 

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Originally posted by Merseymike:
I think I've only been in to All Saints two or three times. Yes, I know what its about, but I don't read the threads there. I'm sure not everyone reads all the sections....

Having thought about all this, there seems to be clear expectations as to how we should approach this site - as a community, to which we should be prepared to invest emotional as well as intellectual energy - and both acknowledgment and agreement with the hierarchical way in which it is organised and those in the positions which afford them 'superiority'.

I recognise I'm not on that wavelength and that most people like the ethos of whats being done here.
I like the discussions, but I don't think I feel the same way about this place that many others appear to.

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MM no-one can dictacte your or anyone else's expectations as you log on to this site. But one criticism that has been levelled at you on the other thread is that you do not take an interest in other people here as people. Again, it's your prerogative not to, but you might find yourself attracting less flames if you took the time to do so.

There are two threads which I never used to read and which I now scan through occasionally, not because I normally take an active interest in the content or post myself, but because I have discovered they are good ways to find out what is going on in people's lives, and particularly if they are going through difficult times. They are "Monthly prayer requests" and "TICTH".

Again, no obligation, but taking a look there from time to time might improve your stock and who knows? give some more credibility to your causes. You might even discover what "community" means in the context of the Ship.
 

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Posted by Merseymike (# 3022) on :
 
I think I am out of step with the dominant ethos here. I'm happy about that as I am not looking for virtual 'community' in the way it has been described.

I know I am not the only one who feels like this. Its clearly a minority view, though....
 

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Posted by Erin (# 2) on :
 
See, this is the thing, Mike. From the perspective of those of us who do see it that way, you appear to take great delight in coming in here and shitting all over that. I don't know if that's your intent or not, but that's how it looks from here.

No one's asking you to embrace the community aspect with open arms. The only thing we ask is that you recognize that others do and conduct yourself accordingly.

(And if you say you didn't read the AS post, then I believe you.)
 

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Posted by Dyfrig (# 15) on :
 
Has anyone noticed the connection between the trotting out of the complaint "it's only a website, it doesn't matter" and a posting average of at least 1 post every single day since they registered?

Or in merseymike's case, a daily posting average of 6.
 

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Posted by OgtheDim (# 3200) on :
 
An observation:

You know when somebody makes a comment to a Canadian about their bad timing, it is customary for us to say a little more then "I wouldn't have known." Must be a cultural thing I guess to throw the word "sorry" in there some where. Yeah, we don't have to apologise, but we just culuturall feel the need to do that. I'm not expecting or asking MM to live up/down to that; but, it is one example of the subtle cultural differences found on a board.
 

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Posted by MatrixUK (# 3452) on :
 
MM you seem to be saying that although you're aware that most of the users of these boards treat them as a community, you choose not to do so, and therefore feel free to shit all over it.

I just can't find a polite way of saying this, so i'll just say it - please fuck off.
 

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Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
There is a bit of an odd disconnect between the number of posts and the contention that "it's just a website". It is more than just a website, mostly because it's one of the more well-conceived bulletin boards, which are an extension of one of the most terrific web magazines (even if none of you look at it). I say that, even though I only look daily at Purgatory, Hell, the Styx and Kerygmania. And I also do not regard web community as a substitute for real life.

So, Matrix, I'd agree with most of your post, except for the part with the swearing, but I've heard rumors that you were dissing me in the cafe.
 

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Posted by MatrixUK (# 3452) on :
 
Disagreeing, never dissing....far too polite don't ya know?
 

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Posted by Merseymike (# 3022) on :
 
Why, Laura ? I like discussion, and the web is a good place to do it. I can't see why frequent posting and a view of SoF as 'community' need to go together.
 

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Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
MM,

I understand that you don't think of this as a community. You have made that clear. But you seem to behave as if it oughtn't to be a community, or that those who care about it as such are pathetic losers (even if they post far less often than you do), while you're above it all. If this be so, you ought not be surprised if people react badly to your patronizing attitude.

I'm not currently deeply pissed off at you as many here appear to be, but I do think that, if anything, you've been cut a lot of extra slack here because your intolerance is liberal intolerance. If an evangelical had been as nasty about liberals as you have been about evangelicals, I doubt he or she would still be around.
 

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Posted by Moth (# 2589) on :
 
It seems to me that if someone wants to debate on the boards but not become part of the community, they need to be particularly careful to stick rigidly to the rules of debating and neverattack anyone ad hominem. If you want to make little jokes and asides, let alone personal attacks, you need to keep up with how people are feeling, as expressed on the relevant boards.

I find it ironic that this whole thing started because MerseyMike said that Erin bored him. MerseyMike bores me, as all his posts bang on about the same things and from the same viewpoint. I don't tell him that he bores me, I just avoid engaging him in debate, and after a while I have reached the point where I simply scroll through his posts in Purgatory. I would advise him to do the same to Erin's when she posts in her personal capacity.
 

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Posted by snowgoose (# 4394) on :
 
What Laura said!
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
..and what Moth said as well.

We had a whole stompin' "Is SOF a community?" a while back, and while the issue was kind of unresolved, my contention was that it is at least a place to encourage community.

When I read the post about Erin's tests on the prayer thread, I felt my stomach drop. Over the last few days, as I have been going on about my business, She has crossed my mind and the worry returns, accompanied by prayer, and even a little lump in the throat, I'm not ashamed to say. Even though Erin lives in Buttfuck, Florida and I never met her and concievably never will, and even though I may not agree with everything she has to say, she has provided me with laughs, insight, straight talk, and an example of self-assurance. I've grown to care about what happens to her.

SO when I read sniggery little remarks about Erin's blood pressure--which were just objects d' art of bad, bad, BAD fucking timing--I was furious. I waited till the fury passed to expand on my "shit timing" comment because my anger was based on the prayer thread post, and I wasn't sure Erin wanted someone who has stated the community aspects of the Ship are meaningless to know her personal shit.

Merseymike, how hard is it to say, "I wasn't aware of the prayer thread, but I can see how some of my comments came at a bad time"?

As to sucking up---I felt exactly the same way when Chastmastr's cat died, and (sorry,Chast honey) what has he got to offer me authority-wise other than bad poetry and a plug on Lonk-o-rama?
 

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Posted by ChastMastr (# 716) on :
 

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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
... bad poetry ...

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b-b-b-



b-b-b-



B-B-B- BAD??

BAWWWLLLL...

...

BWAH-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Psych!

David
knows his poetry isn't great, but 'tis all a game
so fear not, Kelly, all is well, he loves you just the same

 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 


Sorry, I was making a point. Will craft peace offering for your poetry thread.
 

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Posted by Ham'n'Eggs (# 629) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Merseymike:
Why, Laura ? I like discussion, and the web is a good place to do it. I can't see why frequent posting and a view of SoF as 'community' need to go together.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Merseymike:
I will , without hesitation, apologise for making comments which may well have appeared grossly insensitive. I may be combative, and say what I think, but if I had known about the tests then I would have not used those examples or made those comments.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Merseymike:
However, I'm not about to pretend that I see things in the same way as some of my critics, or that my feelings about the Ship will change. To be honest, it rather feels like 'do things the way we want, or you don't fit in here....', which I think is probably the case.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Reform Boy:
Seems like you've already made your mind up - doesn't it.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Paul W:

quote:

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Originally posted by Moo:
I first heard the story of Joann from Suse.

Last year there was a thread in the Styx on the history of the ship. Simon and Erin told some more about Joann's huge number of posts, which Erin, Simon, or Suse promptly deleted.

I don't know what happened to that Styx thread. It may have been deleted.

Moo

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No, it's just right down the bottom.

History of the Ship

Paul W

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quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
perhaps scientists are currently researching this

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Nope. Trolls are just far too boring. Drunk ones doubly so. More interesting things in the world to research.
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
I've never heard of trolls described as boring!
 

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Posted by Chapelhead (# 1143) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
I've never heard of trolls described as boring!

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I've never heard them described as anything other than boring.
 

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Posted by Scot (# 2095) on :
 
I will not have my brilliant thread bent to serve the purposes of a drunk troll.

My Helltithe is terminated effective immediately. Let nature, red in tooth and claw, take its course.
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
Well Scot,

You did want to explore trolling
 

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Posted by Anselmina (# 3032) on :
 
Well, Lifeman, by the sound of it, Scot would like to explore your intestines with that red tooth and claw of his .
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
An important question, for me, remains unanswered.

How did the word 'troll' come to be used in this context? I always thought that a troll was a kind of Norwegion goblin
 

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Posted by Og: Thread Killer (# 3200) on :
 
I give Lifeman a 0.7 out of 10 troll score on this one. Far too obvious.
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 
He may be a master of comedy assessment (though that is still under discussion), but clearly fails the "read all threads" test. I refer, of course, to this thread in the the Styx
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
Thank you Alan,

That link was useful and illuminating.
 

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Posted by Edward Green (# 46) on :
 
The nice thing about SoF is that when you do slip a crafty troll into a post because you are pissed off your friends smack you down gently.

Works for me.
 

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Posted by ChrisT (# 62) on :
 
Lifeman, you seem to be bent on outing yourself as having troll tendancies. Either fulfil these inner desires with some imagination and flair, or just take part in discussions like the rest of us - with sensible, fun and interesting posts. If you are capable of such.

You are getting really boring.
 

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Posted by MatrixUK (# 3452) on :
 
What ChrisT said...
 

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Posted by sarkycow (# 1012) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Edward Green:
The nice thing about SoF is that when you do slip a crafty troll into a post because you are pissed off your friends smack you down gently.

Works for me.

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Gently? Gently? What does this word mean?

Slap someone down gently?

Walks off muttering to herself
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
Miss Cow, it has been known for shipmates to be slapped down gently; even in hell........

[No, you're getting a hard slap. That wasn't worth saying even once, let alone twice.]

[ 29. May 2003, 14:18: Message edited by: sarkycow ]
 

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Posted by Erin (# 2) on :
 
Chris and Matrix, you don't quite get it. Our resident "Master of Comedy Assessment" has the distinctly anti-comedy habit of picking up something that elicits a weak chuckle at best and beating the fucking thing into its individual molecules for months afterwards.
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
You've got a point Erin but what you've described is exactly the way many 'professional' comedians make a living; Bernard Manning is notorious for it and as far as I can see, so is Andrew Dice Clay.

I'm not sure about Tom Green though - he seems to be a genuine original talent.
 

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Posted by The One and Only Nanny Ogg (# 1176) on :
 
Now come on Lifeman - do you really want to be a troll for the rest of your life here on the ship?

What with the constant "clip clip clop" of Billy Goats Gruff over your bridge you won't get any sleep - and believe me the older you get the more sleep you need.

Also, surely it's just a little too hot for trolls in hell? It has been said that slowness of thought comes about from the effect of heat on the troll brain (being made of silicon).

Now if your brain was deep frozen you would be surprisingly intelligent
 

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Posted by Og: Thread Killer (# 3200) on :
 
Lifeman is not even a good journeymantroll. Real mastertrolls do not call attention to themselves as trolls, only wannabe weenies who can't get it right.

Would any of the bunnies on here be willing to do a Bugs impersonation and say the most appropriate one word response to Lifeman's little foray into self-promotion?
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
A post by Nanny Ogg followed by a post by Og!

I take on board the points made but I think that things are being taken a little too seriously.

I'm not trying to present myself as a 'journeyman troll' (whatever that is); just admitting to have done a little trolling in the past, and that was often as not never meant to be taken seriously (I've been genuinely surprised at times just what some Shipmates do take seriously )

Frankly, trolling is quite unnecessary these days when you look at the depths (and lengths)of abuse that certain very vocal shipmates go to (a recent thread springs to mind which was a war between a transatlantic duo - who need trolls with that going on?)
 

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Posted by Og: Thread Killer (# 3200) on :
 
Hmmmm....a "Master" doesn't know what a journeyman is?


 

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Posted by The One and Only Nanny Ogg (# 1176) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
A post by Nanny Ogg followed by a post by Og!

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Those Oggs get everywhere

quote:

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I take on board the points made but I think that things are being taken a little too seriously.

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Maybe my SOH is a little to subtle?

Or does someone not read the same books?
 

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Posted by Priest (# 4313) on :
 
According to my two daughters (7 & 5) Trolls hide under the table and steal your best chips (Americans read "fries") when your not looking.
Needless to say if I catch any of you under my dinner table I'll feed you to the fish.


 

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Posted by The One and Only Nanny Ogg (# 1176) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Priest:
According to my two daughters (7 & 5) Trolls hide under the table and steal your best chips (Americans read "fries") when your not looking.
Needless to say if I catch any of you under my dinner table I'll feed you to the fish.

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Not worthy so much as to gather up the crumbs under your table...
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
This thread is getting to the point that it would'nt be out of place in heaven!

Surely, this has been the opposite of trolling?

(actually, what is the correct adjective that is opposite to being a troll?)
 

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Posted by Black Dog (# 2344) on :
 
You are all brilliant.

just amazing.
 

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Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 
When one is dim, everyone around them seems brilliant.
 

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Posted by Ben26 (# 4201) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by JimT:
When one is dim, everyone around them seems brilliant.

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JimT - I couldn't agree more. It's funny how the light always beats the darkness isn't it. Or how bright colours always catch the eye faster then dark.



Ben26
 

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Posted by Black Dog (# 2344) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by JimT:
When one is dim, everyone around them seems brilliant.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
Jim T
I don't see need to go into details but it has interesting enough in itself to learn about leading trolls of recent years; in particular the story of Joanne is quite astounding (I have a morbid fascination to meet her just to see what she's really like).

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I'm sure Erin could bring you her head on a plate
 

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Posted by Moo (# 107) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by The One and Only Nanny Ogg:

quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
Jim T
I don't see need to go into details but it has interesting enough in itself to learn about leading trolls of recent years; in particular the story of Joanne is quite astounding (I have a morbid fascination to meet her just to see what she's really like).

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I'm sure Erin could bring you her head on a plate

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Erin might prefer to put the two of you in a locked room (with viewing windows) and see what happens.

Moo
 

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Posted by Black Dog (# 2344) on :
 
Thing is about jimt is that i jsut look at his avatar and lose all will to live.

To me thats his face, and I can't communicate with avatar images like that.
 

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Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 
Note to self: *never* change avatar.
 

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Posted by ChrisT (# 62) on :
 
Whereas, Black Dog, you are faceless. As well as witless.
 

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Posted by Moo (# 107) on :
 
Good for you, JimT!

Moo
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
Moo;

You're surely not putting me in the same bracket as Joanne

BTW Jim, I find your avatar quite amusing

[Repeating yourself doesn't make you more interesting.]

[ 02. June 2003, 15:22: Message edited by: sarkycow ]
 

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Posted by Erin (# 2) on :
 
No, I wouldn't put you in the same class as Joanne, Lifeman. She was quite malicious and managed to shut down about two dozen bulletin boards during her reign of terror. You don't have the brain cells to be dangerous.
 

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Posted by Ley Druid (# 3246) on :
 
But don't be discouraged Lifeman. Between all the people who have joined together to reply to you and another awe inspiring rendition of "Joanne and the reign of terror", isn't it nice to know that you have helped foster a greater feeling of community?
 

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Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 
I found something for you, LD.
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
Erin,

Since your idea of being dangerous is just swearing your head off at people, I don't suppose I am very dangerous nor do I see that it takes many braincells to be like that.
 

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Posted by Erin (# 2) on :
 
Er, no, my idea of being dangerous is bouncing some fuckwit off the boards. Letting loose with the expletives is just fun, especially when it clearly bothers you so much. If it didn't, you wouldn't bring it up every time you talked to me.

Ya jackass.
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
I would'nt call 'letting loose with expletives' either fun or irritating; I just don't think it's a very good advertisment for the Ship; especially since you are one of the administraters.

Anyway, I don't intend to waste time having a fruitless tarade with you on the lines of your thread with Merseymike.
 

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Posted by Erin (# 2) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
I would'nt call 'letting loose with expletives' either fun or irritating; I just don't think it's a very good advertisment for the Ship; especially since you are one of the administraters.

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quote:

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Anyway, I don't intend to waste time having a fruitless tarade with you on the lines of your thread with Merseymike.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
I would'nt call 'letting loose with expletives' either fun or irritating; I just don't think it's a very good advertisment for the Ship; especially since you are one of the administraters.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
Good point Ben,

I'm sure that most of the insult hurling and name calling that goes on in Hell is often posters covering up inner hurts or insecurities. That kind of fakeness is a bad advert for the Ship -
I bet that if Erin and Merseymike met face to face, they would probably get on and realise that they had more in common with each other than they realised.

T

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quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
Good point Ben,

I'm sure that most of the insult hurling and name calling that goes on in Hell is often posters covering up inner hurts or insecurities. That kind of fakeness is a bad advert for the Ship -
I bet that if Erin and Merseymike met face to face, they would probably get on and realise that they had more in common with each other than they realise.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
Good point Ben,

I'm sure that most of the insult hurling and name calling that goes on in Hell is often posters covering up inner hurts or insecurities. That kind of fakeness is a bad advert for the Ship -
I bet that if Erin and Merseymike met face to face, they would probably get on and realise that they had more in common with each other than they realised.

T

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Nah, we just do it for a laugh (bit like you, really )

ghostly voice descends from on high: read the man's profile for goodness' sake

[More laughing and pointing. Similarity of the error suggest a glitch in the code, but I'm going to pick on you anyway.]

[ 03. June 2003, 22:52: Message edited by: RooK ]
 

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Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
ok, so he's changed it....
nice one, Lifeman, you got me there
 

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Posted by Ben26 (# 4201) on :
 
I've fed two trolls tonight . So I might be a bit stupid at this point in time although I am certain that the above error was not my fault.

Not to self: Do NOT feed trolls.
 

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Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
No Ben, not your fault, the same thing happened to me - spoils the point made in the posts somewhat, doesn't it?

Regarding the other point:
Lifeman made it clear in his early profile that he was here as a game to wind people up - looks like he's achieved it, too
 

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Posted by Erin (# 2) on :
 
Lifeman has the dubious honor of being the only person who was ever banned from Hell. Unfortunately, it's not something we could enforce with the new software, unless we banned his sorry ass from the Ship completely.
 

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Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by ChrisT:
Note: Never, absolutely never, have I seen Erin use anything other than the proper language on boards other than Hell.

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quote:

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Michael Moore is as much a propaganda whore as Leni Riefenstahl. And equally credible.

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quote:

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oh come-on he's not that good but definitely much more credible If its propaganda refute it!

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quote:

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Erin,

May I do the honors?

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quote:

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Of course, if you are a right wing Republican, or an enthusiast for the current US regime, you won't appreciate his humour, and will post right wing refutations in response.

Now, who do I believe most? You, Erin and George. W. Bush ?

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quote:

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You can believe whothefuckever you want, Mike, but DROP the "right wing" ad hominem when you're talking about me, or I'll see your ass in Hell.

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quote:

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I know this is HELL so...

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quote:

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pssst! duchess, this is purgatory, not hell, so its ok.

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It is not my first thread on The Ship, MerseyMike completely overreacted, Erin calmed down enough to be reached by MerseyMike, but he took the opportunity to play the pouty victim. It was clear this was not trolling, but the boilover of longstanding differences that remain unresolved.

It reminded me, though, of when newbie perfecta was briefly suspended. On a thread in Styx, I criticized Erin for using vulgar language with a newbie outside of Hell, defending the notion that he was not really a troll and should not have been so provoked with vulgar language outside of Hell. I see Purgatory as a place for hardball debate but not vulgar exchanges that are guaranteed to result in escalation of tension and degrading of serious discussion. An admin came back, and Erin confirmed, that there are no restrictions on vulgarity anywhere. It is only a guideline for boards outside of Hell. The word was, "if you can take the consequences, say anything you want anywhere."

I don't agree with this policy, but it is the policy. When Erin flames outside of Hell it is usually with some kind of provocation. That I will say. But as far as ChrisT's statement goes, it is not true. She flames when she feels justified, and has said that as far as she is concerned you can use any kind of language you want anywhere so long as you are willing to live with the consequences of the content. I will say that in my opinion it is one of the reasons why the site attracts so many trolls, which is the subject of this thread.

And because this is Hell, I suppose I should add that I don't give a goddam if any admin thinks it's too freaking Purgatorial or Styxitorial.
 

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Posted by ChrisT (# 62) on :
 
Well shit, JimT (are you related?). You mean I can't make wide-sweeping and badly researched statements for the single reason of slapping a troll? You spoil my fun

However I do have to take umbrage at:

quote:

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I will say that in my opinion it is one of the reasons why the site attracts so many trolls

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quote:

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Originally posted by Erin:
I am knocking on all kinds of wood here

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• Joanne
• manalive*
• Reason
• Jim Powell
• Max Chapman
• munchen/p_a_r

quote:

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I can't do it. I can't flame a guy who admits he has a tiny tallywhacker.

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Does anyone remember who provoked this remark and why? Just curious.
 

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Posted by Scot (# 2095) on :
 
IIRC that was IBP, not a troll, Kelly. However, I think your question is timely, given Erin's remarkably measured response to Lifeman.

Do you think she feels pity for one who has shown himself to have a tiny trollywhacker?
 

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Posted by Divine Outlaw-Dwarf (# 2252) on :
 
Kyralessa seems to be doing fairly well in the under the bridge stakes at the moment.
 

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Posted by thegreent (# 3571) on :
 
just what i was thinking....... wonder how much longer she's got...
 

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Posted by Janine (# 3337) on :
 
If s/he's the best troll in the running we're in lovely shape.
 

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Posted by ChrisT (# 62) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Janine:
If s/he's the best troll in the running we're in lovely shape.

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You call that lovely shape? We have one newbie who's just pissing people off, and one mid-termer who's making thinly disguised threats then not carrying them out. Poor show, if you ask me.

I want to see Erin the Alligator in action again!
 

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Posted by Janine (# 3337) on :
 
Eh, Chris, I was just issuing an opinion, an observer's opinion. I'm not one actually getting my hands into the threads and trying to fix them. Or fix the posters.

So I bow to your superior insight. Assuming it is superior.
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 
Ah, the sweet smell of enlightenment on the summer breeze. Thanks, scot.
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
Chris T,

If I understand you correctly, there are only two trolls (of any note) who are presently active.

That sounds pretty good to me when there are well over 4000 posters registered.
 

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Posted by Divine Outlaw-Dwarf (# 2252) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by ChrisT:
and one mid-termer who's making thinly disguised threats then not carrying them out.

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quote:

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I want to see Erin the Alligator in action again!

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Call me voyeuristic and nasty if you want.

Divine - I meant Lifeman. That's just my opinion from my observation, of course.
 

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Posted by Divine Outlaw-Dwarf (# 2252) on :
 
Thank you, just like to know what's going on!
 

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Posted by Ley Druid (# 3246) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by ChrisT:

quote:

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I want to see Erin the Alligator in action again!

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Call me voyeuristic and nasty if you want.

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quote:

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The difference is when Erin calls someone a fuckwit it is normally true (paraphrased)

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That makes me feel a little less nasty
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
Chris T,

I've been percieved as minor troll at times but I don't think I've made any threats - I'm much to mild mannered for that.
 

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Posted by Timothy L (# 2170) on :
 
Hey, can't we all just get alARHG (Timothy L is kicked to death by a pack of rabid cute puppies)...
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
Good to hear from you again Timothy.
 

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Posted by ChrisT (# 62) on :
 
Lifean, I agree that you are mild-mannered. However there have been several posts of your lately that I consider to have given away your intent to troll (to whatever depth). That, in my book, is making threats. In the same way that one when joking with a friend could say "is that a threat or a promise?".

The real problem for me is that you in no way measure up to a real troll - you are but a pale imitation, a shadow, a fake copier of trolling tendencies. You have proved yourself to be no more interesting than a rather mediocre act on "Stars in Their Eyes".
 

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Posted by The One and Only Nanny Ogg (# 1176) on :
 
Come on ChrisT - at least let Lifeman practise.

How can you become a full heavyweight troll without a few gentle spars now and again?
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
Fair point Chris,

I'll never be a great troll and that's because I could'nt take the vocation seriously enough. Some past instances of 'trolling' on my part have'nt been meant seriously at all and to my amusement I've been taken seriously. For example, I once posted a thread in Hell comparing America today to the ancient Roman empire (for example WWF is the new form of gladiators) and it was only meant to a joke - it got moved to purgatory!
 

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Posted by sarkycow (# 1012) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
For example, I once posted a thread in Hell comparing America today to the ancient Roman empire (for example WWF is the new form of gladiators) and it was only meant to a joke - it got moved to purgatory!

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That was my revenge on you for being such a low-life dickhead

Viki
 

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Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on :
 
Are you sure that wasn't revenge on some slight by Purgatory hosts?
 

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Posted by sarkycow (# 1012) on :
 
So I killed two birds with one stone? Got a problem with that? I sincerely hope so, since I've a new toasting fork here, and it needs to be christened with someone's blood...
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by The One and Only Nanny Ogg:
Come on ChrisT - at least let Lifeman practise.

How can you become a full heavyweight troll without a few gentle spars now and again?

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GASP.

Lifeman is liza's sock puppet.
 

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Posted by ChrisT (# 62) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
I'll never be a great troll and that's because I could'nt take the vocation seriously enough. Some past instances of 'trolling' on my part have'nt been meant seriously at all and to my amusement I've been taken seriously

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So you admit you are an arsehole?
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
I don't think a quite said that - I normally
regard 'arseholes' as the kind of people who find
it difficult to express themselves without using expletives
 

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Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
'arseholes'

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Talking of which, is Jesuitical YoungMalePerson's recent assault on Purgatory an attempt at a decent troll, or just lashing out at Stoo for closing the other scat thread?
 

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Posted by ChrisT (# 62) on :
 
Damn it, Lifeman, could you be any more sanctimonious? You remind me of the kid who was top of the class, the one with the very shiny shoes and very proud parents, who would smile sweetly with just a hint of a sneer as others failed to attain his "standards".

For your reference, perchance it be something you encounter again:

troll = arsehole
Lifeman = troll (albeit a crap one)

therefore

Lifeman = arsehole

[that's one less beer, Chris]

[ 09. June 2003, 15:39: Message edited by: Erin ]
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
Chris, In answer to your question, I could actually be more sanctimonious but I refrain from doing so lest it cause you any further offence, the avoidance of which is more important to me than furthering my posts.
 

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Posted by Og: Thread Killer (# 3200) on :
 
Are trolls saved by grace or by good works?
 

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Posted by Kyralessa (# 4568) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Og: Thread Killer:
Are trolls saved by grace or by good works?

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quote:

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Originally posted by Og: Thread Killer:
Are trolls saved by grace or by good works?

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Pickling them in a barrel might work, or perhaps placing them in a wax museum would be better (coated in wax first, of course!)

I don't know any bank that would agree to save a troll in a safety deposit box, do you?
 

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Posted by The One and Only Nanny Ogg (# 1176) on :
 
I think it's been decided that on another thread that a vindaloo melts their insides...

Lime pickle anyone?
 

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Posted by Lifeman (# 579) on :
 
Why should Vindaloo attak trolls any more than anyone else?

(for the record, I never order anything hotter than Rogan Josh )
 

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Posted by ChrisT (# 62) on :
 
Lifeman, gee, I don't know what to say. You're so ... kind

PS - a recommendation: next time order a makhani - you might like it. Imagine a spicier korma. Mmmmmm.
 

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Posted by madferret (# 3353) on :
 
So who was the last person to earn the troll avatar? And who's next...?

PS I'm NOT volunteering, ok!
 

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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Lifeman:
Why should Vindaloo attak trolls any more than anyone else?

(for the record, I never order anything hotter than Rogan Josh )

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quote:

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Originally posted by TimSaunders:
Manalive.

He was around the first time I ever encountered the Ship. I thought that he was, basically, a fundie who just went too far. Clearly I was wrong?

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