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Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
I'm unreliable informed that this used to be a popular bumper sticker in some parts of the USA.

Is the world doomed?

[edited thread title for Limbo]

[ 09. October 2003, 02:45: Message edited by: Erin ]
 
Posted by Scot (# 2095) on :
 
Yep, I still see that one (and variants) from time to time.

Also popular:


 
Posted by Black Dog (# 2344) on :
 
I'm sure it would be if anyone knew what it meant.
 
Posted by OgtheDim (# 3200) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Black Dog:
I'm sure it would be if anyone knew what it meant.

It means people have a sense of humour.
 
Posted by Ben26 (# 4201) on :
 
Yes, just not a very good one. Same thing with aforementioned bumper stickers
 
Posted by perfecta (# 4085) on :
 
"the Religious Right is neither" was another of my favourite - along with those quoted by Scot...
 
Posted by Scot (# 2095) on :
 
Ben26, I thought Lifeman was the self-appointed arbiter of what is funny? He's going to be upset if you start horning in on his territory.
 
Posted by Sine Nomine (# 3631) on :
 
My current personal favorite is "Jesus would have used his turn signal".
 
Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
I need an:

In case of Rapture, can I have your car?
 
Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
And why hasn't anyone made a Darwin fish kissing a Jesus fish yet? I'd buy one in a second. If I don't get one soon, I'm just going to get a heart sticker and put it with a Darwin fish next to my "Episcopal Church" sticker.
 
Posted by Scot (# 2095) on :
 
Kissing? [Two face]
 
Posted by Ben26 (# 4201) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Scot:
Ben26, I thought Lifeman was the self-appointed arbiter of what is funny? He's going to be upset if you start horning in on his territory.

Oh my Gosh! How terrible! I am quaking in my boots as we speak.

Ben26
 
Posted by Zach82 (# 3208) on :
 
quote:
And why hasn't anyone made a Darwin fish kissing a Jesus fish yet?
Oooh, I want one... [Cool]

Zach
 
Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Scot:
Ben26, I thought Lifeman was the self-appointed arbiter of what is funny? He's going to be upset if you start horning in on his territory.

Shhh. You'll invoke him again.
 
Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
On my car I have a very nice darwin-looking fish that says "N Chips" in the middle.

I'm sorry but i have to disagree with the babboon. I think making fun of popular bumper stickers is quite humorous.

Anybody remember "Jesus was crucified by a Moral Majority"? ("The Moral Majority" was (maybe still is) an ultra-right-wing political faction in the USA in the 1980s)

Reader Alexis
 
Posted by Professor Yaffle (# 525) on :
 
Ah yes, the Moral Majority - weren't they "neither" too?

I was always fond of "Stop Aid - Give Reagan Contra-ception", although it hasn't aged well.
 
Posted by Troy (# 2516) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Zach82:
quote:
And why hasn't anyone made a Darwin fish kissing a Jesus fish yet?
Oooh, I want one... [Cool]

Zach

Ditto.

You know, there are several web-based companies that will produce small runs of bumper stickers. If someone with a graphic arts background could draw up a draft, we could probably get something going.

While I have negative artistic ability (my avatar took 2 hours!), I would be happy to spearhead the effort.

-Troy
 
Posted by JimT (# 142) on :
 
Here is Oregon I've seen for the first time, "Earth First--Then We'll Log the Rest of the Planets!"
 
Posted by IntellectByProxy (# 3185) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Laura:
And why hasn't anyone made a Darwin fish kissing a Jesus fish yet? I'd buy one in a second. If I don't get one soon, I'm just going to get a heart sticker and put it with a Darwin fish next to my "Episcopal Church" sticker.

I'd pay a lot of money for a Darwin fish mating with a Jesus fish. Now that would be nicely ironic.
 
Posted by OgtheDim (# 3200) on :
 
Somehow having a TICTH thread started by somebody called...Smudgie....doesn't have the same sort of OOMMFFF. [Wink]
 
Posted by SeraphimSarov (# 4335) on :
 
I saw one bumper sticker last week that had me spitting up my coffee (in hilarity) "What would Scooby Doo?"
 
Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by IntellectByProxy:
I'd pay a lot of money for a Darwin fish mating with a Jesus fish. Now that would be nicely ironic.

Because fish don't mate? Yes that would be hilarious!

Reader Alexis
 
Posted by LatinMan (# 1892) on :
 
quote:
NUKE THE UNBORN GAY WHALES FOR JESUS
or the more typical:

quote:
Nuke the gay baby whales!
Are both satires on a whole bunch of causes, to wit:

NUKE-a reference to the nuclear freeze, anti-nuclear energy, and disarmament bumper stickers of the early 1980s.

UNBORN/BABY-refers to pro-life/anti-abortion bumper stickers of the same era

GAY-refers to gay-rights stickers

WHALES-refers to the "Save the Whales" stickers seen in the late 1970s-early 1980s

FOR JESUS-and all the religious bumperstickers, mostly of an Evangelical slant.

And the whole thing is meant as a joke at the expense of all people who display their opinions on the bumpers of their cars.

In other words, friends and neighbors, there is something here to offend nearly everybody, if they so desire to be offended.
 
Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
The thing about humour, Latin Man, is that if you have to explain it....

Reader Alexis
 
Posted by OgtheDim (# 3200) on :
 
Baby appies to baby seals.

Which led to the sticker:

Save a Cow....Kill a Seal.
 
Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
Gully Gee, LatinMan, I never would've guessed all that hard stuff about I-Ron-Y if you hadna told me!
 
Posted by Mad Geo (# 2939) on :
 
All the FISH you could want, except of course the one that we want, the kissing fish.

Of course the classic in the states was to modify "In and Out Burger" bumpers tickers to say

"In and Out Urge"

There are a lot of "WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER" bumper stickers running around Lost Angeles.

After the recent discoveries of biological weapons manufacturing trailers in Iraq, we need to modify the stickers to say

"WAR WAS THE ANSWER".
 
Posted by Mad Geo (# 2939) on :
 
Actually now that I look at that link I provided, one could put the Darwin fish (Right facing) with a IXOYE fish (left facing) to get the kiss desired......

There is also a towing harness to add a bumper sticker.

Ah Capitalism......
 
Posted by LatinMan (# 1892) on :
 
quote:
OgtheDim sez:
Baby appies to baby seals.

You know, you're right, I had completely forgotten about them.
 
Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
I saw a t-shirt in Provincetown that read:

What if the Hokey-Pokey really is what it's all about?
 
Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
Actually, the Darwin fish kissing the Icthus fish might be a nice SOF offering. I'll ask Simon what he thinks.
 
Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
Or dancing with the Icthus fish. I don't like the "mating" idea. People would think you were saying something quite different about evolution.
 
Posted by OgtheDim (# 3200) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LatinMan:
quote:
OgtheDim sez:
Baby appies to baby seals.

You know, you're right, I had completely forgotten about them.
You know, those who feel the need to, unsolicited, explain humour, but then proceed to get it wrong, should beware their audience's tendancy to satirise their efforts.

Are you sure you wanted to give such a bone to the denizens of Hell? Or, are you exhibiting a quite devious trollish behaviour worthy of Monstertroll theatre thread? [Wink]
 
Posted by Sean D (# 2271) on :
 
Ummmm, guys, I don't know if I was the only one sad enough to scroll down the whole way but that page already has an evolution fish humping an IXTHUS one.

IbP - I now expect you to buy one. A snip at $8!!
 
Posted by Sean D (# 2271) on :
 
Sorry - I meant to say that it's about three-quarters of the way down.
 
Posted by golden key (# 1468) on :
 
Actually, The One Right & True Version (tm) of the thread title slogan was:

Nuke the gay unborn baby whales for Jesus.

At least, where I was!
 
Posted by daisymay (# 1480) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Sean D:
Sorry - I meant to say that it's about three-quarters of the way down.

Between the Pentacle and the Rasta...
 
Posted by Scot (# 2095) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Laura:
I saw a t-shirt in Provincetown that read:

What if the Hokey-Pokey really is what it's all about?

I have one of those.
 
Posted by Ultraspike (# 268) on :
 
Although I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment, "Regime Change Starts At Home" did bring a smile. [Roll Eyes]
 
Posted by golden key (# 1468) on :
 
I like several of the non-fishy emblems.

Also, check out other pages of the site. Interesting things (some of which may be offensive).

Jewelry page has items for atheists, UU, and humanists. Didn't know atheists had a symbol!

Variety of things on the t-shirt page.
 
Posted by Merseymike (# 3022) on :
 
I still like 'There's one born (again) every minute!'
 
Posted by Kyzyl (# 374) on :
 
I have one that says "My Golden Retriever is smarter than your honor student" [for the non-USA readers: this is a play on the My child is an honor student at XYZ school stickers]

Since I teach "teachers-to-be" this has caused some grumbling among my more humorless colleagues. Actual teachers in the trenches love it. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by golden key:
Didn't know atheists had a symbol!

You mean it's not just a big "G" with a red circle-and-slash?

Reader Alexis
 
Posted by golden key (# 1468) on :
 
[Killing me] Nope, Alexis. It's the atomic symbol with an "A" in the middle! Pretty, actually.
 
Posted by auntbeast (# 377) on :
 
About 2 years ago I put two fish on my car, a Darwin Fish and a IXOYE fish, nose to nose and painted a big silver heart over their noses. the reactions have been great.. .people stopping at lights and honking, waving in my rear view. One even stopped at a stop light and held up a quickly written note... "Love your fish". They can get me into at least a discussion if not a debate in almost any parking lot, from my liberal social political friends (who get all bent out of shape about the Christian fish) to my missionary fundy friends (who get all bent out of shape about the Darwin Fish).

However, I think the award for daft goes to a nice little missionary student, incapable of critical thought. I had loaned the car to a missionary friend of mine who leads youth training programs. The conversation went like this:

Student: Is this your car?

Leader: No, it belongs to a friend who is very generous and loans it to us when she is out of town.

Student (with slightly confused worried tone): What to the fish on the bumper mean?

Leader: What do you think they mean? What do they say to you?

Student: I don't know, just tell me!

Didn't we have a great thread of bumper stickers on the ship quite some time ago? I don't remember if it was in hell or somewhere else. Is it archived somewhere?

One good one I saw today was "Jesus loves you... the rest of us think you're a fucking asshole"

All good things,
Auntbeast
 
Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kyzyl:
I have one that says "My Golden Retriever is smarter than your honor student" [for the non-USA readers: this is a play on the My child is an honor student at XYZ school stickers]

Actually, us non-USA readers get the Golden Retriever joke.

What we don't see is why anyone would be such a prat as to put a sticker saying "My child is an honor student at XYZ school". WTF cares? And what child could ride in such a car without dying of embarrasement, or at the very least total fear that some opther student at XYZ would see them. You'd have to crouch on the floor hiding out of view.
 
Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by auntbeast:
About 2 years ago I put two fish on my car, a Darwin Fish and a IXOYE fish, nose to nose and painted a big silver heart over their noses.

Almost makes me wish I had a car.

But then I suppose I'd have to learn to drive.
 
Posted by Regina Caeli (# 2343) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Laura:
I saw a t-shirt in Provincetown that read:

What if the Hokey-Pokey really is what it's all about?

But of course the humour is lost in all the annoyance caused by the insistence on changing it to 'hokey pokey'.

RC
 
Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
auntbeast,

Thanks, I may follow your example. I saw a version of the other you mentioned. It said:

Jesus loves you! Everyone else thinks you're an asshole.

[ 13. May 2003, 13:26: Message edited by: Laura ]
 
Posted by Laura (# 10) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Regina Caeli:
quote:
Originally posted by Laura:
I saw a t-shirt in Provincetown that read:

What if the Hokey-Pokey really is what it's all about?

But of course the humour is lost in all the annoyance caused by the insistence on changing it to 'hokey pokey'.

RC

?
 
Posted by Tortuf (# 3784) on :
 
I always liked "Jesus is coming. Everyone look busy."
 
Posted by Ben26 (# 4201) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Laura:
auntbeast,

Thanks, I may follow your example. I saw a version of the other you mentioned. It said:

Jesus loves you! Everyone else thinks you're an asshole.

Not a bumper sticker but the 80's heavy metal band The Almighty (who were crap, btw) had a t-shirt that said "Jesus Loves You......... But I don't"

I thought that was quite funny. Their songs were funny to, but unintentionally.

Ben26
 
Posted by perfecta (# 4085) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ben26:
Not a bumper sticker but the 80's heavy metal band The Almighty (who were crap, btw) had a t-shirt that said "Jesus Loves You......... But I don't"

I thought that was quite funny. Their songs were funny to, but unintentionally.

Eh? Dissing the Almighty now? [Frown] - They weren't _that_ bad - Any band who penned a track as riddled with adrenaline and anger as Jonestown Mind can't be crap...
 
Posted by Ben26 (# 4201) on :
 
Adrenaline + Anger = Good?

So, you like every, single thrash/death metal band in the whole world ever? [Roll Eyes] [Razz]

[Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
Well I usually trot this out when people start talking about bumper stickers, so here we go.

About 15 years ago, the Wisconsin state tourism board developed the slogan "Escape to Wisconsin!" The idea being that Wisconsin is very close to Chicago, and people in Chicago and environs were encouraged to take vacations in beautiful neighboring Wisconsin.

Okay, there's the background. Now on a car's behind I saw two different bumper stickers:

On the left: Jesus is Coming!

On the right: Escape to Wisconsin!

Reader Alexis
 
Posted by perfecta (# 4085) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ben26:
Adrenaline + Anger = Good?

So, you like every, single thrash/death metal band in the whole world ever? [Roll Eyes] [Razz]

Nah - but the Almighty's lyrics were a notch above most of that era's stuff and leagues ahead of those teenagers filling the charts nowadays - how many of them have even heard of Jim Jones?
 
Posted by Joyeux (# 3851) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mousethief:
On the left: Jesus is Coming!

On the right: Escape to Wisconsin!

Reader Alexis

[Killing me]

(psst - Mousethief - where do people in Wisconsin go to escape?)
 
Posted by ThatsMrJuice2U (# 3076) on :
 
I remember some "classics" I used to see quite a bit:

"God is my Co-pilot"
"In Case of Rapture, This Car Will Be Unmanned"
"Christians Aren't Perfect Just Forgiven"
"Hugs Are Better Than Drugs"
"I Found It"

I have a friend who has a sticker of a Ichtus fish swallowing a Darwin fish, and the caption reads "Survival of the Forgiven"
 
Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Joyeux:
(psst - Mousethief - where do people in Wisconsin go to escape?)

Chicago. Once it empties out of everybody escaping to Wisconsin, it's not such a bad place.

Reader Alexis
 
Posted by Kyzyl (# 374) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ken:
quote:
Originally posted by Kyzyl:
I have one that says "My Golden Retriever is smarter than your honor student" [for the non-USA readers: this is a play on the My child is an honor student at XYZ school stickers]

Actually, us non-USA readers get the Golden Retriever joke.

What we don't see is why anyone would be such a prat as to put a sticker saying "My child is an honor student at XYZ school". WTF cares? And what child could ride in such a car without dying of embarrasement, or at the very least total fear that some opther student at XYZ would see them. You'd have to crouch on the floor hiding out of view.

Ken! My point exactly!

I teach a course in the cognitive/social/emotional development of adolescents. You should hear the discussion when I mention "that" bumper sticker. It is one of the more enjoyable classes each semester [Snigger]

Are the "my child" stickers a US phenomenon or does the rest of the world also suffer?
 
Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kyzyl:
Are the "my child" stickers a US phenomenon or does the rest of the world also suffer?

I've bever seen one. Nor heard of them until this thread.
 
Posted by OgtheDim (# 3200) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kyzyl:

Are the "my child" stickers a US phenomenon or does the rest of the world also suffer?

Does "My dog is a Rottweiler" count?
 
Posted by Kyzyl (# 374) on :
 
quote:
Does "My dog is a Rottweiler" count?
Does to me.

[That was close. You avoided being mocked by a mere two-posts-from-shipmate-status.]

[ 13. May 2003, 19:55: Message edited by: RooK ]
 
Posted by Kyzyl (# 374) on :
 
Ack! Damn new computer keyboard. Sorry.

Rotties deserve a bumper sticker, honor students do not. [Big Grin]
 
Posted by TonyK (# 35) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kyzyl:
... Are the "my child" stickers a US phenomenon or does the rest of the world also suffer?

Not seen anything similar in the UK - where bumper stickers are not quite so common anyway.

But I have seen one that I am waiting to use:

'Retired - and living it up on our children's inheritance!'
 
Posted by sarkycow (# 1012) on :
 
Slow handclap to Kyzyl, gradually quickening into applause.

And crongratulations to Kyzyl, our longest running apprentice, who has just made it to shipmate status!

Viki, hellhost
 
Posted by La Sal (# 4195) on :
 
My favorite: Your karma ran over my dogma!
 
Posted by auntbeast (# 377) on :
 
Ah yes MrJuice, the ever popular (in its day) "I found it". I really preferred the run of spoofs it spawned:

"It's mine"
"We never lost it" (with a star of David on it)
"I stepped in it"
"I found it.. now how the hell do I get rid of it"

I also recall a parody I liked of the old "Honk if you love Jesus". It read "If you love Jesus work for Justice, any idiot can honk". It actually caused contenion in some parking lots [Disappointed]

Cheers,
Auntbeast
 
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :
 
Then there's the spoof ones for old people which Victoria Wood coined:

We've seen the toilets at Longleat!
I lost my dentures at Alton Towers!
My other hat's a balaclava!
 
Posted by anglicanrascal (# 3412) on :
 
I always liked:

My other car is a broomstick.
Today I thought of someone I could give that to. [Two face]
 
Posted by auntbeast (# 377) on :
 
For all I was bemoaning the fact that I don't have a big-ass 4X4 on another thread, I really do think that most of the sissy little yuppies who drive SUV's in town only and cry if they get mud on them need to be dealt with. One good idea.....

Guerilla bumper stickering...

Or for a Christian option check out this one...

Jesus and your SUV

Happy hunting,
Auntbeast
 
Posted by AB (# 4060) on :
 
I saw quite a good one the other day. It said:

"The meek will inherit the earth...
...if you don't mind"

Aaah, it made me smirk anyway.

Changing topic slightly, a friend of mine has a t-shirt with the phrase "Jesus can't skate" written on it, which I actually find, very, very funny.

[Smile]

AB
 
Posted by Brendo (# 4512) on :
 
quote:
Here is Oregon I've seen for the first time, "Earth First--Then We'll Log the Rest of the Planets!"
sounds like the "Caution I speed up for small animals" I had on my old Mazda. [Big Grin]

{why not practice your UBB code?}

[ 14. May 2003, 12:54: Message edited by: Nightlamp ]
 
Posted by Sine Nomine (# 3631) on :
 
Someone sent me this a while back...
quote:
Fish on Cars

Top 10 things people won't say when they see a Christian bumper sticker or fish emblem on a car:

10. "Look! Let's stop that car and ask those folks how we can become Christians."

9. "Don't worry, Billy, those people are Christians. They must have a good reason for driving 90 miles an hour."

8. "What a joy to be sharing the highway with another car of Spirit-filled brothers and sisters."

7. "Isn't it wonderful how God blessed that Christian couple with a brand-new BMW?"

6. "Dad, how come people who drive like that don't get thrown in jail? Can we get a bumper sticker like that, too?"

5. "Stay clear of those folks, Martha. If they get raptured, that car's gonna be all over the road!"

4. "Oh, look! That Christian woman is getting a chance to share Jesus with a police officer."

3. "No, that's not garbage coming out of their windows, Bert. It's probably gospel tracts for the road workers."

2. "Oh boy, we're in trouble now! We just rear-ended one of God's cars."

1. "Quick, Alice, honk the horn or they won't know that we love Jesus!"


 
Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
quote:
Here is Oregon I've seen for the first time, "Earth First--Then We'll Log the Rest of the Planets!"
The Oregon bumper sticker I found particularly -um- interesting was this one:

Welcome to Oregon. Now leave.

Reader Alexis
 
Posted by SeraphimSarov (# 4335) on :
 
We have the same sticker in California (probably all the refugees from Oregon! [Wink] )
 
Posted by Ann (# 94) on :
 
Today I followed "Caution - Blonde Thinking"
 
Posted by Kyzyl (# 374) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by sarkycow:
Slow handclap to Kyzyl, gradually quickening into applause.

And crongratulations to Kyzyl, our longest running apprentice, who has just made it to shipmate status!

Viki, hellhost

Aw shucks, thanks. Just needed the right thread and the ending of the spring term I guess.
 
Posted by Ben26 (# 4201) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Ann:
Today I followed "Caution - Blonde Thinking"

Isn't a bit like pigs flying? [Razz] [Big Grin] [Razz] [Big Grin] [Razz] [Big Grin]

<only joking y'know>

Ben26
 
Posted by auntbeast (# 377) on :
 
Saw a new one on the way to a fabulous fundraising party for a friends theater show...

"Don't pray in my school...
And I promise not to think in your church"

I was amused.

Cheers,
Auntbeast
 
Posted by fatprophet (# 3636) on :
 
I do love the sticker "Jesus is Coming, look busy!"

But is that meant to be offensive to x'ians?
Also, do you think I would get in trouble for suggesting it as the headline title of a series of youth events at my local church?
 
Posted by Trevor (# 3644) on :
 
I once saw, "If God is your co-pilot, switch seats.”

What I’d like to see is a Lamarck fish. He doesn’t usually get the respect he deserves.
 
Posted by nicolemrw (# 28) on :
 
two goodies:

"Campus Crusade for C'thulu.... It Found Me."

"The meek will inheirit the earth.... the rest of us will go to the stars."
 
Posted by Brendo (# 4512) on :
 
hey Auntbeast, wanted to reply to your stuff on the Christian boozers club but they closed it (bastards) like the philosophy of leading a posse of predatory women to prey on christian guys out for a few pints. Down here in redneck country Australia where men are men (and sheep are nervous...) we could use ladies like you all... [Devil] [Help]
 
Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Trevor:
What I’d like to see is a Lamarck fish. He doesn’t usually get the respect he deserves.

For being wrong?

Reader Alexis
 
Posted by Lurker (# 1384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Laura:
quote:
Originally posted by Regina Caeli:
quote:
Originally posted by Laura:
I saw a t-shirt in Provincetown that read:

What if the Hokey-Pokey really is what it's all about?

But of course the humour is lost in all the annoyance caused by the insistence on changing it to 'hokey pokey'.

RC

?
It's Hokey Cokey in Britain.
 
Posted by Trevor (# 3644) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mousethief:
For being wrong?

Reader Alexis

Sure, his evolutionary mechanism turned out to be wrong, but it was the first important one. He deserves respect for being a pioneer of evolutionary science, as well as for originating the field of invertebrate biology. (article)
Galen and Aristotle and Copernicus and Einstein all got things wrong too.
 
Posted by golden key (# 1468) on :
 
"Hokey Cokey"???

Just to be sure, are we talking about the same thing? A dance game for kids? "You put your right foot in, you put your right foot out..."
 
Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Trevor:
Galen and Aristotle and Copernicus and Einstein all got things wrong too.

But also made huge advances that others built on. Lamarck seems to be mostly a dead end.

Reader Alexis
 
Posted by Trevor (# 3644) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mousethief:
quote:
Originally posted by Trevor:
Galen and Aristotle and Copernicus and Einstein all got things wrong too.

But also made huge advances that others built on. Lamarck seems to be mostly a dead end.

Reader Alexis

My opinion of the matter, though hardly expert, is that Lamarck did make such an advance in evolutionary biology: the idea that organisms evolve at all.

Darwin is quoted as writing that "...he first did the eminent service of arousing attention to the probability of all changes in the organic, as well as in the inorganic world, being the result of law..."

That seems pretty major to me, and I consider a single major insight to trump incorrect specifics. Especially so in this case, because those specifics could not be proven wrong until after yet another discovery that happened a century later.
 
Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
Uncle!

Reader Alexis
 
Posted by sophs (# 2296) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by golden key:
"Hokey Cokey"???

Just to be sure, are we talking about the same thing? A dance game for kids? "You put your right foot in, you put your right foot out..."

You do the hokey cokey and you turn about....

yup thats the one!
 
Posted by Lurker (# 1384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by golden key:
"Hokey Cokey"???

Just to be sure, are we talking about the same thing? A dance game for kids? "You put your right foot in, you put your right foot out..."

"In out, In out, shake it all about. Do the Hokey Cokey and you turn around. That's what it's all about. Oh! Hokey Cokey Cokey"

I had no idea it was spelt differently. Since the dance seems like it was invented by an American, perhaps our spelling originated with a misprint, like the US spelling of aluminium. Or is it because 'Poke' can have sexual connotations in Brit slang?
 
Posted by Lurker (# 1384) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mousethief:
Uncle!

Reader Alexis

Eh?
 
Posted by golden key (# 1468) on :
 
Here's the basic US version, with music.

http://www.scoutsongs.com/lyrics/hokeypokey.html
 
Posted by TonyK (# 35) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Lurker:
quote:
Originally posted by Mousethief:
Uncle!

Reader Alexis

Eh?
New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary:

" 'cry uncle, holler uncle, say uncle'
(N. Amer. colloq.) acknowledge defeat, cry for mercy."

IMHO, not a common reaction from Mousethief [Wink]
 
Posted by Panda (# 2951) on :
 
What does a Lamarck fish look like anyway?

Re the 'my kid is...' stickers - my father was very pleased to have 'my daughter is an Air Cadet glider pilot' on his car til it faded, and that was in Canada. I haven't seen any other variants of it.
 
Posted by James M (# 3414) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Panda:
What does a Lamarck fish look like anyway?


Whatever the environment forces it to look like? On a bumper, I would expect it to be very flat, wind proof and with an adhesive underside to assist maintenance of position. Rather like a squished, dried Cornish Sucker Fish , really....
 
Posted by Mousethief (# 953) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by TonyK:
IMHO, not a common reaction from Mousethief [Wink]

Which smilie means "pbbbbbbth"? [Razz]

quote:
Originally posted by Panda:
What does a Lamarck fish look like anyway?

It would have to have an acquired characteristic which it was about to pass on to its offspring. Try representing THAT in a 1" x 3" bumper decal!

Reader Alexis
 
Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Mousethief:
Uncle!

No! It was Charles Darwin's grandfather Erasmus Darwin who popularised the idea of evolution in England!
 
Posted by Lurker (# 1384) on :
 
You could have a Haeckel fish that changes over time, going from fish to amphibian to reptile to mammal.

What about Ship-related bumper stickers?
 
Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
But Haeckel was an evil proto-Nazi horrid person!

And he totally misunderstood Darwin and screwed up German evolutionary biology for 2 generations. (Though Ernst Mayr & Willi Hennig put them back on the path of righteousness)

Bloody good artist though.

This is the first thread I ever started on the Ship to get to 100 posts!

Does that say something about the nature of the Universe.
 
Posted by Laudate Dominum (# 3104) on :
 
About the Hokey Pokey question:

I have absolutely no sources, this is just what I was told. "Hokey Pokey" derives from "hocus pocus" and we all know that comes from people who made fun of the Latin words of the consecration at Mass. In which case, at least in the view of Roman Catholics, the "Hokey Pokey" actually is what it's all about. But I could be wrong. [Smile]

At any rate, I've absolutely no idea why ya'll seem to think the word is "cokey."
 
Posted by Willyburger (# 658) on :
 
Seen this morning: The road to Hell is paved with Liberals.
 
Posted by golden key (# 1468) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Willyburger:
Seen this morning: The road to Hell is paved with Liberals.

Ah, but that means that the liberals won't be *going* to hell--only those conservatives, running roughshod over them.

[Smile] [Two face]
 
Posted by Willyburger (# 658) on :
 
[Killing me] [Killing me] [Killing me]
 
Posted by ken (# 2460) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Laudate Dominum:
About the Hokey Pokey question:

I have absolutely no sources, this is just what I was told. "Hokey Pokey" derives from "hocus pocus" and we all know that comes from people who made fun of the Latin words of the consecration at Mass. In which case, at least in the view of Roman Catholics, the "Hokey Pokey" actually is what it's all about. But I could be wrong. [Smile]

At any rate, I've absolutely no idea why ya'll seem to think the word is "cokey."

I have no sources either, but on the modern rule of thumb that randomly accquired Internet sites are the source of all truth, I quote a small extract from:

take our word for it

quote:

The two are indeed thought to be related, it being suggested that they both derive from hocus pocus (see Issue 61 for a discussion of the latter).  You, and many others, may be surprised to find that hokey pokey, spelled hoky poky also, did not originally apply to a dance.  Instead, it meant "trickery, double dealing" when it first appeared in writing in the middle of the 19th century.  Hanky panky meant the same thing when it made its appearance at about the same time.  However, in the U.S. it was taken a step further, to mean "fooling around (sexually), especially in infidelity", an extension of the "trickery" notion.

While most etymologists seem to agree that hokey pokey and hanky panky derive from hocus pocus, slang expert Eric Partridge seemed to like the explanation that hanky panky derives from handkerchief, which magicians often used in their acts of prestidigitation.

The Hokey Pokey dance originated in England where it was (and still is) called the Hokey Cokey.  It was appropriated by an American G. I. who turned it into a musical hit when he returned to the U. S.  It is still heard, especially in roller skating rinks, today.

Does the US version go

"Ra! Ra! Ra!"

at the end?

[Deleted your duplicity.]

[ 27. May 2003, 13:43: Message edited by: sarkycow ]
 
Posted by Edward Green (# 46) on :
 
hoc est (enim) corpus (meum).

or so they say.
 


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