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Posted by asher (# 97) on
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OK, so Matt Smith is no David Tennant, and Russell T Davies is no longer writing - but please.....would they do that to any other faith group during a major festival.
(Episode opens with child kneeling at bedside praying to Santa + namechecking Easter).
Not funny, not big, not clever - just offensive.
It's on iplayer if you are this side of the pond and want to be offended too, but you're all probably too busy observing the holy mysteries of ........the resurrection.
I feel cleansed now.
Asher
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Posted by PhilA (# 8792) on
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I thought it was a good scene, showing just how shit the church is at teaching what it believes.
A large percentage of kids at my school don't know the Easter story, or the Christmas story. Does the church get out there much and try to change this? No. Hence, kids praying to Santa on Holy Saturday.
Don't blame the telly for the reflection of society it shows, blame society for having that image in the first place.
Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on
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I thought it was hilarious, and very well played by the child! The thought that there was anything offensive about it really didn't occur to me...
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Reality. A. Check. Get.
To how many people, currently, is this anything other than a Spring holiday weekend? You belong to a subset of the genus Pedant. Get over it.
Posted by jlg (# 98) on
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Indeed. Just this morning I was having a nice (warm sunny day!) chat with a Jewish friend who mentioned that her mother always expected the extended family to be together at Easter.
"Why?" "All the families get together today." "But we're Jewish, it's not our holiday." "Doesn't matter. It's family." ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Posted by Divine Outlaw Dwarf (# 2252) on
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Funny. And good social commentary.
Posted by Chorister (# 473) on
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Son of C doesn't say much when he's watching TV on his computer screen. But he did mention the girl praying to Santa, and had a laugh about it.
I guess it makes a change from the image of the Easter Bunny nailed to the cross. (Googlable if you really want to.)
Roadkill.
Posted by Herrick (# 15226) on
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Originally posted by Firenze
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To how many people, currently, is this anything other than a Spring holiday weekend?
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For all those living in the southern hemisphere at least!
Posted by asher (# 97) on
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Well blow me..we're all sooooo amused by popular culture's thin remnant of of Christian heritage.
Perhaps any other saturday I would have nodded with the 'social comment' posters...
..but come on, when broadcasters do something like that around Easter, it really jars.
...oh yes, Firenze, do you really think it is pedantic to pull up short at praying to Santa....would you draw a line anywhere? Rooney? Cheryl?...who do you like to pray to?
Lets see...Alleluia Santa is risen...
See, it's offensive.
Posted by welsh dragon (# 3249) on
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What struck me was that the little girl was praying - to God or for some sort of policeman or something - and then the Dr turns up, in a police box. I was thinking that it seemed particularly close to the Dr as God.
Posted by Anselmina (# 3032) on
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Originally posted by PhilA:
I thought it was a good scene, showing just how shit the church is at teaching what it believes.
A large percentage of kids at my school don't know the Easter story, or the Christmas story. Does the church get out there much and try to change this? No. Hence, kids praying to Santa on Holy Saturday.
Don't blame the telly for the reflection of society it shows, blame society for having that image in the first place.
Most clergy, and many Christian workers, I've worked with in the past are desperate for opportunities to do schools work. Whether church or state schools. In many cases, it is the head teachers who make it 'difficult' for this to happen. In at least one place of my experience, the time slot of the 'Christian assembly/act of worship' was swapped so many times in the space of a few years, it was impossible to know what was happening from one term to another.
And in other schools, none of the offers of coming into class, and doing 'extra' chuch-related things etc with the kids were taken up.
Besides, more to the point. Isn't there a national curriculum which includes modules for religious education; for which the schools are responsible. Or has it been handed over to the church to take the 'religious education' side of things?
In the UK, at least, few things could be more accessible than easy and varied access to knowledge of a Christian faith. The opportunities are there; maybe 'blame', or some of it, ought to apportioned to those who refuse to take them up?
On a more realistic note. Isn't a humourous reference to a child's misperception of Easter during a (basically) young person's sci-fi programme, just the same kind of thing as Homer Simpson saying, 'Praise Jebus!' as he comes late into church one Sunday morning? I haven't seen the Dr Who clip, but I always enjoy Homer's occasional reference to his personal relationship with Jebus.
Posted by Badger Lady (# 13453) on
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I suspect that when the episode was written Moffatt didn't know it would air on Easter Saturday as the release dates for Doctor Who wouldn't be decided simply by him.
Anyway, the praying to Santa raised a wry smile with me. If I was going to read anything more into the lines, it would be that the little girl was lonely, unhappy and scared and wanted someone to make it better. She associated Santa with happiness and 'wishes' and so asks him. I thought it was quite sweet.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Originally posted by asher:
Lets see...Alleluia Santa is risen...
See, it's offensive.
Works for me. Santa is obviously a god - probably one of the Vanir. At this time of year he is the Green Man (his original livery before Coca Cola got to him), Dionysus and Tammuz. He rises in every blade and leaf.
After the winter we've had, an alleluia would be entirely in order.
Posted by Divine Outlaw Dwarf (# 2252) on
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Originally posted by asher:
...oh yes, Firenze, do you really think it is pedantic to pull up short at praying to Santa....would you draw a line anywhere? Rooney? Cheryl?...who do you like to pray to?
Presently, I'm feeling like commencing a novena to Lady Ga-ga for deliverance from humourless Christians with persecution complexes. They do far more damage to the public perception of our faith than any sci-fi series ever could.
Posted by Yonatan (# 11091) on
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Originally posted by asher:
Lets see...Alleluia Santa is risen...
See, it's offensive.
Absolutely. It maddens me the way religious terminology gets bandied about like this by people who obviously don't believe in it and think that any old combination of words will do. Santa is never risen, he descends down the chimney to give presents to all the good children. Sure, he rises again afterwards to go back up the chimney, but at the culmination of the visit (on which our liturgy focuses) it is the descent to give which we celebrate. The later rising is merely a necessary part of the cycle and a precursor to another descent and more giving.
Posted by Adeodatus (# 4992) on
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Reality. A. Check. Get.
Firenze, please. It's Easter. The proper form of words is,
Alleluia, alleluia. Reality. A. Check. Get. Alleluia.
Anyway, as Badger Lady mentioned, Amelia was lonely and scared. She was a 7-ish year old girl left home alone by her aunt. (Do we get to meet this excuse for an aunt, I wonder?) And you find her fear, loneliness and neglect less offensive than that she prays to Santa?
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Posted by Dormouse (# 5954) on
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Firenze:
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Anyway, as Badger Lady mentioned, Amelia was lonely and scared. She was a 7-ish year old girl left home alone by her aunt. (Do we get to meet this excuse for an aunt, I wonder?) And you find her fear, loneliness and neglect less offensive than that she prays to Santa?
I thought we had met her in the form of Annette Crosbie. Oh bum, does that mean I wasn't properly listening again!?
I didn't find it offensive in any sense. Like others have said, I saw it as Amelia Pond was lonely and scared and associated Santa with good times and happiness. It's sad that she didn't think of praying to God, but there you go...
And the Doctor as being God? Nah - he was just an answer to prayer.
Posted by passer (# 13329) on
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For goodness sake asher, get a sense of perspective. That kind of anally-retentive whining about a completely unintended inconsequentiality makes you look like a twat. I had to check the datestamp of your post - thought I must have missed the thread two days ago.
Posted by opaWim (# 11137) on
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Originally posted by asher:
It's on iplayer if you are this side of the pond and want to be offended too, but you're all probably too busy observing the holy mysteries of ........the resurrection.
Did it ever occur to you that God the Father of Jesus Christ might hear and answer the prayers of anyone who in good faith prays to Him, even if she/he gets his Name wrong?
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Originally posted by Badger Lady:
Anyway, the praying to Santa raised a wry smile with me. If I was going to read anything more into the lines, it would be that the little girl was lonely, unhappy and scared and wanted someone to make it better. She associated Santa with happiness and 'wishes' and so asks him. I thought it was quite sweet.
Yes, so did I. I think the "offensive" element here lies in the fact that what would normally have been a written request letter (probably using exactly the same words) was spoken instead with folded hands; but how would you expect a child to actually speak to a Santa that they can't see (as opposed to one in a grotto), out of season?
"Oi Santa? Listen up. There's a crack in my wall with voices and I want it sorted and I want it sorted now. You don't show up, I stop believing in you, k?"
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on
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What is the difference between the God portayed by some Christians and Santa anyway?
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Posted by Yonatan (# 11091) on
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God's got a more impressive beard.
Posted by opaWim (# 11137) on
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Originally posted by Boogie:
What is the difference between the God portayed by some Christians and Santa anyway?
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At least the image of "God as Father Christmas" is one that people can grow out of.
The belief that God only answers the prayers of those who use the correct form of address too often proves totally resistant to spiritual growth.
Posted by Benny Diction 2 (# 14159) on
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Will you all please shut the **** up! I've not seen it yet! ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
Posted by opaWim (# 11137) on
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Originally posted by Benny Diction 2:
Will you all please shut the **** up! I've not seen it yet!
Rest assured. We haven't revealed anything essential, yet.
Posted by asher (# 97) on
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Originally posted by passer:
For goodness sake asher, get a sense of perspective. That kind of anally-retentive whining about a completely unintended inconsequentiality makes you look like a twat. I had to check the datestamp of your post - thought I must have missed the thread two days ago.
Dear Passer,
If you'd watched the clip you would have noted that it was not unintended, as the child mentioned Easter in the prayer. 'Dear Santa, thank you for the dolls...it's Easter now'. The authorial and broadcast intent was show a child praying to Santa at Easter.
hmmm..today is the 4th..two days ago was the 2nd....c'mon now, you only need the fingers of one hand.
OpaWim
I completely agree with you that if a child in distress were to call out, God would hear. But, you know, sorry to break it to you, Doctor Who isn't real. It is a story, written by a grown up, with grown up nuanced intent. And that nuanced intent trivialises the spirituality of children (not least with the implication that said child hadn't prayed for 3 months).
Now I'm off to offer thanksgiving to the Easter Bunny for all the yummy fairtrade chocolate he left me, singing Parry Gripp's 'Fuzzy Fuzzy Cute Cute'
Asher
Posted by opaWim (# 11137) on
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Originally posted by asher:
OpaWim
I completely agree with you that if a child in distress were to call out, God would hear. But, you know, sorry to break it to you, Doctor Who isn't real. It is a story, written by a grown up, with grown up nuanced intent. And that nuanced intent trivialises the spirituality of children (not least with the implication that said child hadn't prayed for 3 months).
Rest assured that
(a) I'm fully aware that Dr. Who isn't real;
(b) I didn't for even a second expect you to agree with anything I wrote.
To me (and I suspect to most of the others who find your OP amusing) Dr. Who, Harry Potter, Gaia, Aslan, Santa etc. are no realistic competition to the only God we believe in.
For those of us who haven't forgotten that Santa Claus has his origin in a bonafide Saint you can ask (if you are Roman Catholic or Orthodox or somewhat high-church Anglican) to intercede on your behalf, what Amelia does is not very shocking.
Anyway, strictly speaking Amelia is treating Santa not as God but as someone you can appeal to for help.
Aside from that, if you feel offended every time you encounter a god-image that doesn't confirm to your own (and that must happen at least ten times a day in much more serious form than mr. Moffatt's having Amelia mistake Santa for God) you might benefit (as do we all) by regularly re-contemplating what God means to you.
[ 04. April 2010, 13:46: Message edited by: opaWim ]
Posted by asher (# 97) on
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OpaWinge: For those of us who haven't forgotten that Santa Claus has his origin in a bonafide Saint you can ask (if you are Roman Catholic or Orthodox or somewhat high-church Anglican) to intercede on your behalf, what Amelia does is not very shocking.
Got it! Amelia was appealing for the intercessions of the saints of God. Of course! Now you come to mention it, only this morning I lit a candle to a red suited figure swigging a bottle of Coke.
Opawinge: To me (and I suspect to most of the others who find your OP amusing) Dr. Who, Harry Potter, Gaia, Aslan, Santa etc. are no realistic competition to the only God we believe in.
Way to go to miss the point. I take it the big 10 don't feature much when you regularly recontemplate what God means for you.
Didn't get much chocolate this year did you?
Now if only the Easter Bunny will answer my cries to be Winge free...I will commit my life to her.
Ash
Posted by opaWim (# 11137) on
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As far as I'm concerned you didn't have to confirm I pressed the right buttons. Especially since you felt the embarrassing need to use a puerile change to my name.
Any chance that in the nearby future you will grow up sufficiently to be able to watch/understand Dr. Who without adult supervision?
Posted by five (# 14492) on
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Good Friday showed a documentary on Good Friday from a historical and theological perspective (Why did Jesus die?). This morning had the Easter service from Winchester Cathedral followed by Urbi et Orbi and two short exceprts from Songs of Prise. The rest of today includes yet more SoP and a documentary on whether or not Christians are being persecuted. And this is all on the same channel you're so up in arms about.
I'm thinking that the documentary will show that in fact, Christians are not being persecuted. But that people like asher and this sort of outrage and "they'd never do this to another religion!" and claiming persecution do a lot to make Christian look like idiots.
Jesus was taken off the cross a couple days ago. asher'd do well to follow his example.
Posted by passer (# 13329) on
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asher, sweetheart.
The "unintended" referred to the scheduling, not the plot-line, and the date was related to the OP, not the date I read it. However, I can see you're a tad stressed, so take a chill-pill and trot off to your group-hug and seek tranquility. And may your particular iteration of sky-fairy look kindly on your less-than-charitable OP.
I'm mulling over whether to submit it to spEak You're bRanes. I think it might merit a "racists" tag, with the asinine implication that "they wouldn't do it to the non-christians".
Posted by Garden Hermit (# 109) on
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Dear Santa,
I asked God for a new bike last year for my birthday and it didn't come.
He's obviously no good, ignoring me or just can't do it.
Perhaps you can deliver it instead
Best wishes,
A. Child
Posted by asher (# 97) on
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Originally posted by opaWim:
Any chance that in the nearby future you will grow up sufficiently to be able to watch/understand Dr. Who without adult supervision?
I still piss myself whilst hiding behind a cushion.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Originally posted by Yonatan:
It maddens me the way religious terminology gets bandied about like this by people who obviously don't believe in it and think that any old combination of words will do. Santa is never risen, he descends down the chimney to give presents to all the good children. Sure, he rises again afterwards to go back up the chimney, but at the culmination of the visit (on which our liturgy focuses) it is the descent to give which we celebrate. The later rising is merely a necessary part of the cycle and a precursor to another descent and more giving.
Only, Yonatan, if you are operating within the stratified - and dare I say it - ossified exegetics of the Judeo-Christian tradition. Within the creative, non-hierarchical hermeneutic of the pagans, deities move sideways. Typically He/She/It/Them/Other describes a cyclical peregrination though morphologically complex theopanies in both a temporal and transtemporal modality. As well as doing up and down. And mysterious ways.
[ 04. April 2010, 17:46: Message edited by: Firenze ]
Posted by Rock Pig (# 14503) on
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Rock Piglette once asked if she should pray to Father Christmas but she was a bit younger than 7. She's a baptised teenager now, so it didn't do her any long term harm.
Regarding the scheduling, Dr Who series have begun on Easter Saturday ever since the show was brought back (resurrected? ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
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So, whether it was offensive or a wry comment on modern or kids attitudes to sprituality I don't know, but scheduling-wise the writer and and the production team MUST have known what they could be implying by the scene.
And I had been rather hoping that Russel T's apparently casual but fairly persistent rubbishing of rillijun might become a DW anachronism. That said my fellow Whovian Godbotherers this morning were generally very favourable about the episode.
At least Moffatt is a better writer than his predecessor IMHO.
Posted by Chorister (# 473) on
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If Santa is really St. Nicholas, then what's the big deal? People pray to the saints all the time.
Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on
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Originally posted by asher:
See, it's offensive.
Only if you're an asinine fuckwit searching desperately for any hint of someone not quite treating Christianity with maximum respect in order to prove that They're All Out To Get Us.
Otherwise, it's not even mildly surprising. Vaguely puzzling if you've had four pints, perhaps, but not offensive in the slightest.
Get a fucking grip.
Posted by Yonatan (# 11091) on
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Originally posted by Firenze:
quote:
Originally posted by Yonatan:
It maddens me the way religious terminology gets bandied about like this by people who obviously don't believe in it and think that any old combination of words will do. Santa is never risen, he descends down the chimney to give presents to all the good children. Sure, he rises again afterwards to go back up the chimney, but at the culmination of the visit (on which our liturgy focuses) it is the descent to give which we celebrate. The later rising is merely a necessary part of the cycle and a precursor to another descent and more giving.
Only, Yonatan, if you are operating within the stratified - and dare I say it - ossified exegetics of the Judeo-Christian tradition. Within the creative, non-hierarchical hermeneutic of the pagans, deities move sideways. Typically He/She/It/Them/Other describes a cyclical peregrination though morphologically complex theopanies in both a temporal and transtemporal modality. As well as doing up and down. And mysterious ways.
Sounds like a row of terraces would probably make giving presents easier then.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Originally posted by Yonatan:
Sounds like a row of terraces would probably make giving presents easier then.
It's true that chimneys have mostly gone out of fashion, but I'm not entirely sure about the idea of Santa driving his sleigh through the walls of a row of terraced houses, scattering presents as he goes. Still, stranger things have happened.
What the world needs is a modern Santa who can cope with central heating systems now that these have replaced the old coal fires. Maybe he could just emerge from behind the radiator instead.
Posted by Yonatan (# 11091) on
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Originally posted by Ariel:
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Originally posted by Yonatan:
Sounds like a row of terraces would probably make giving presents easier then.
It's true that chimneys have mostly gone out of fashion, but I'm not entirely sure about the idea of Santa driving his sleigh through the walls of a row of terraced houses, scattering presents as he goes. Still, stranger things have happened.
Stranger things like him flying round the entire world in one night delivering presents, on a sleigh, with reindeer pulling it you mean? As if the walls of terraced houses would stop him. He's magic!!!
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Posted by Rock Pig (# 14503) on
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Choriste sed
"People pray to the saints all the time."
Not in the Methodist or Baptist Churches I've hung out with they don't. Nor would my Sally Army pals. Come to think of it I've not noticed my Anglican drinking buddies doing it either.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Originally posted by Ariel:
What the world needs is a modern Santa who can cope with central heating systems now that these have replaced the old coal fires. Maybe he could just emerge from behind the radiator instead.
D'ye know, I getting the feeling that numinous archetypes are not getting the respect they deserve round here.
Posted by Rock Pig (# 14503) on
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I do also now remember that Titanic-in-space Xmas Who with Kylie where the tour guide said that earth people worshipped Santa.
It was presented as a joke on cultural misunderstanding I think, but the whole thing was overly camp shite anyway, and should never have seen thelight of day as a Dr Who storyline.
Posted by Og: Thread Killer (# 3200) on
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I haven't seen the new guy but....
They can have someone praying to Santa as long as they get rid of the Josh Whedon inspired angst and get back to having some fun for once.
Geez these Doctors are soooo boringly emotional. Worried about relationships and existentialism and whether they have any friends or relatives.
Buddy...your this close to immortal. You can go anywhere you want, and have been. Live a little.
Stop moaning about your love life and your family and how everybody gets old.
Gosh, its like watching a 40 year old guy going through a mid life crisis, without the resulting red cars and flashy women.
And can we please stop with the "Ooo...you will have a rough time later, Doctor." foreshadowing? Its pathetic. Just pathetic. Have an adventure, solve a mystery, and put your feet up and have a laugh.
If I wanted angst, I'd watch any number of other boringly angst filled shows out there.
Posted by asher (# 97) on
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
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Originally posted by asher:
See, it's offensive.
Only if you're an asinine fuckwit searching desperately for any hint of someone not quite treating Christianity with maximum respect in order to prove that They're All Out To Get Us.
Otherwise, it's not even mildly surprising. Vaguely puzzling if you've had four pints, perhaps, but not offensive in the slightest.
Get a fucking grip.
Surely one of the key premises of DW is that (wrt aliens, and with limited exceptions), t hey are all out to get us.
So perhaps the dear children of this isle leaern two things from DH:
1. Pray t o Santa
2. Aliens (..in our midst) are most often a threat and most likely out to get you.
DH as a vehicle for EDL propoganda. There's a brain burp for you.
Ash
Posted by Spike (# 36) on
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Originally posted by Yonatan:
Stranger things like him flying round the entire world in one night delivering presents, on a sleigh, with reindeer pulling it you mean?
The sleigh is obviously a tardis. You see? Santa = Dr Who
Posted by Chorister (# 473) on
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Ah, so that's how he manages to fit in all the presents. I knew there was an explanation.
Posted by Yonatan (# 11091) on
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Originally posted by Spike:
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Originally posted by Yonatan:
Stranger things like him flying round the entire world in one night delivering presents, on a sleigh, with reindeer pulling it you mean?
The sleigh is obviously a tardis. You see? Santa = Dr Who
Well bugger me! So he doesn't do it all in one go. He merely goes backwards in time after each stop in precise jumps taking care not to cross his own timeline.
Posted by Spike (# 36) on
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I thought everyone knew that!
Posted by Yonatan (# 11091) on
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Sorry, when I heard the wheezing each Christmas Eve, I assumed Santa had a chest infection from living at the North Pole. Of course! He doesn't have a skeleton key for chimneyless houses, its his sonic screw driver, and he has Christmas Specials so he can advertise his own merchandise. It all makes sense.
[ 05. April 2010, 10:08: Message edited by: Yonatan ]
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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So you see, child prays to Santa, Santa - in one of his many avatars - answers prayer.
Obviously all part of the Pagan Plot to exterminate (ex-ter-min-ate! ex-ter-min-ate!) Christianity and restore the old gods. But things are going so well I think we can afford to be open about it.
Posted by Yonatan (# 11091) on
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and the BBC Christmas adverts of the reindeer pulling the TARDIS with DT was a message to the faithful who knew the secret (now much less secret) teaching.
Posted by Chorister (# 473) on
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Who says the ship of fools isn't educational and helpful?
We will shortly be announcing our intention to run a group of primary schools.
Posted by Avila (# 15541) on
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I thought it reflected a society that has enough spiritual niggles to reach out and 70+% in Uk census claim believe in 'god' however they define that.
And yet the confusion about how to reach out and to whom.
And two minutes later I was just enjoying the story and how it was just a way of establishing the plot start (why she was scared) and DW's arrival.
Posted by Gamaliel (# 812) on
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What a crap Hell thread. Have any of you pea-brains not realised that it's fiction and that if the Beeb had in fact shown the wee lassie praying to God with the Doctor turning up in answer to her prayers then they'd have been inundated by moronic letters accusing them of blasphemy?
Apologies if someone's said this already but I can't be arsed reading the whole thread.
The thing I remember about the new Dr Who was the new Who girl wearing a WPC kiss-o-gram uniform. For kiss-o-gram read euphenism for strip-o-gram. Phnarr! Phnarr!
Gamaliel
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Originally posted by Gamaliel:
Apologies if someone's said this already but I can't be arsed reading the whole thread.
I will however exert myself to remark that you are a buffoon and an idiot. And if you get chewed out by a Hell Host a second time, it's no more than you deserve.
Posted by Yonatan (# 11091) on
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Originally posted by Firenze:
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Originally posted by Gamaliel:
Apologies if someone's said this already but I can't be arsed reading the whole thread.
I will however exert myself to remark that you are a buffoon and an idiot. And if you get chewed out by a Hell Host a second time, it's no more than you deserve.
He could pray to the great god Santa for protection and deliverance.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Originally posted by Gamaliel:
What a crap Hell thread. Have any of you pea-brains not realised that it's fiction
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Dear Santa,
Thanks for the chocolates. Please get rid of this heretic. He's spoiling the thread. Can you put him through the crack in the wall into the cell with Prisoner Zero? Ta.
Posted by Anselmina (# 3032) on
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Originally posted by Gamaliel:
What a crap Hell thread. Have any of you pea-brains not realised that it's fiction and that if the Beeb had in fact shown the wee lassie praying to God with the Doctor turning up in answer to her prayers then they'd have been inundated by moronic letters accusing them of blasphemy?
Apologies if someone's said this already but I can't be arsed reading the whole thread.
The thing I remember about the new Dr Who was the new Who girl wearing a WPC kiss-o-gram uniform. For kiss-o-gram read euphenism for strip-o-gram. Phnarr! Phnarr!
Gamaliel
This pea-brain, along with a few others, have made similar comments about it's not worth taking seriousl.
So, apology not accepted. If you can't be arsed to read, you shouldn't be arsed to write.
Arse.
Posted by Gamaliel (# 812) on
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I'll get me coat.
Posted by kankucho (# 14318) on
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Originally posted by Og: Thread Killer:
Gosh, its like watching a 40 year old guy going through a mid life crisis, without the resulting red cars and flashy women.
Ok, so his ride may look like a Volvo estate, but even Clarkson would have to be impressed by all the gadgets, the deceptively roomy interior and nought to timewarp in three seconds.
And Billie Piper? Freema Agyeman? Karen Gillan? I would. You're welcome to Catherine Tate, mind.
K Bird, age 46.
[ 05. April 2010, 23:18: Message edited by: kankucho ]
Posted by Spike (# 36) on
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Originally posted by Gamaliel:
What a crap Hell thread. Have any of you pea-brains not realised that it's fiction...
You are obviously a heathen and you will burn in HELL!!
Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on
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Originally posted by Rock Pig:
Choriste sed
"People pray to the saints all the time."
Not in the Methodist or Baptist Churches I've hung out with they don't. Nor would my Sally Army pals. Come to think of it I've not noticed my Anglican drinking buddies doing it either.
But Chorister said "people", which I'm sure you know is a group not limited to Methodists, Baptists, Salvationists, and Anglicans.
Posted by comet (# 10353) on
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Originally posted by Gamaliel:
Apologies if someone's said this already but I can't be arsed reading the whole thread.
I hate you.
I'm telling the Daleks where you live.
Posted by Taliesin (# 14017) on
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my favourite line in the whole thing was
(doc reflecting on all the kid was going through)
'you know what I think?'
'what?'
'it must be a hell of a scary crack in your wall.'
*****
by the way, Annette Crosby was the mother of her childhood friend, current boyfriend and soon-to-be-jilted fiancé. I think.
eta - context of quote
[ 06. April 2010, 09:47: Message edited by: Taliesin ]
Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on
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Originally posted by Taliesin:
my favourite line in the whole thing was
I'm not going to join in the "favourite line" thing (which must surely be Heavenly). But, if you want a great line that was a sure fire certainty to offend a large number of people you can't really do better than "You're Scottish, fry something".
Posted by kankucho (# 14318) on
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
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Originally posted by Taliesin:
my favourite line in the whole thing was
I'm not going to join in the "favourite line" thing (which must surely be Heavenly).
A bloke inviting himself into a little girl's bedroom to examine her crack?
You've got a weird idea of what's Heavenly!
Posted by Gill H (# 68) on
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
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Originally posted by Taliesin:
my favourite line in the whole thing was
I'm not going to join in the "favourite line" thing (which must surely be Heavenly). But, if you want a great line that was a sure fire certainty to offend a large number of people you can't really do better than "You're Scottish, fry something".
Especially considering that Moffat is very definitely Scottish!
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Originally posted by Gill H:
Especially considering that Moffat is very definitely Scottish!
And therefore allowed to say these things.
Posted by Og: Thread Killer (# 3200) on
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Originally posted by kankucho:
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Originally posted by Og: Thread Killer:
Gosh, its like watching a 40 year old guy going through a mid life crisis, without the resulting red cars and flashy women.
Ok, so his ride may look like a Volvo estate, but even Clarkson would have to be impressed by all the gadgets, the deceptively roomy interior and nought to timewarp in three seconds.
And Billie Piper? Freema Agyeman? Karen Gillan? I would. You're welcome to Catherine Tate, mind.
K Bird, age 46.
Hmm...point taken.
He is in mid life crisis.
Bloody idiot should just get over it.
Posted by luvanddaisies (# 5761) on
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Originally posted by Chorister:
I guess it makes a change from the image of the Easter Bunny nailed to the cross. (Googlable if you really want to.)
Roadkill.
Nails are so passe. Here's something to be offended by. (I am a very bad and wrong person for finding it funny).
Posted by hereweare (# 15567) on
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I too was a bit miffed by the santa bit (as posted in heaven)but take Choirister's point about St Nicholas ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
I feel that I should also confess that I was very cross that the F1 coverage was was moved to BBC 2 halfway through because of the Easter service on BBC 1 ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
Posted by bonabri (# 304) on
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I was more miffed that the Doctor's 'resurrection' took place at Christmas time.
Posted by Spiffy (# 5267) on
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Originally posted by opaWim:
Rest assured that
(a) I'm fully aware that Dr. Who isn't real;
WHAT?! Liar. Heretic!
Posted by Spike (# 36) on
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WHAT?! It took you a whole week to come up with that reply?!
Posted by FreeJack (# 10612) on
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Originally posted by Chorister:
Who says the ship of fools isn't educational and helpful?
We will shortly be announcing our intention to run a group of primary schools.
and entering the Songs of Praise almost but not quite religious school choir competition and winning with the theme to The Snowman.
Posted by Bean Sidhe (# 11823) on
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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
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Originally posted by Rock Pig:
Choriste sed
"People pray to the saints all the time."
Not in the Methodist or Baptist Churches I've hung out with they don't. Nor would my Sally Army pals. Come to think of it I've not noticed my Anglican drinking buddies doing it either.
But Chorister said "people", which I'm sure you know is a group not limited to Methodists, Baptists, Salvationists, and Anglicans.
Stretching a tangent perhaps, this Anglican prays to St Anthony when things go missing. Why? It works
Posted by Spiffy (# 5267) on
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Originally posted by Spike:
WHAT?! It took you a whole week to come up with that reply?!
I've been away from the Internet since April 1st. It's a little thing called 'vacation'.
Posted by opaWim (# 11137) on
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Originally posted by Spiffy:
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Originally posted by opaWim:
Rest assured that
(a) I'm fully aware that Dr. Who isn't real;
WHAT?! Liar. Heretic!
Stupid of me. I should never have owned up to that one. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Posted by Chorister (# 473) on
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Originally posted by FreeJack:
and entering the Songs of Praise almost but not quite religious school choir competition and winning with the theme to The Snowman.
Walking in the Air would be a very fitting anthem for Ascension Day, doncha think?
Posted by jlg (# 98) on
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Originally posted by Bean Sidhe:
Stretching a tangent perhaps, this Anglican prays to St Anthony when things go missing. Why? It works
Tony, Tony, look around,
Something's lost and must be found.
Haven't tried it myself, but I have friends who swear by it.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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I was looking for this. Read it earlier.
Am applying for Job. Could not find SS card. Sulked. Gave up. Poked around on Ship.
Saw above incantation. Sneered. Sulked some more. Thought about it. Muttered incantations in sulky voice. Continued sulking, as felt stupid indulging childish magical thinking.
Dragged myself upstairs, and opened a drawer through which I had already looked. Passport wallet fell down from space inside drawer where it had jammed. Card holder fell out. Opened card holder. There it was.
Thanks, Tony.
[ 13. April 2010, 20:27: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
Posted by Rev per Minute (# 69) on
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Am applying for Job. Could not find SS card. Sulked. Gave up. Poked around on Ship.
Sorry, must be a Pond thing, but - SS card? On the grounds it's not membership of this, what is it and why do you need it (and so why did you need St Anthony)?
Posted by testbear (# 4602) on
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Social Security, no?
Posted by jlg (# 98) on
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Yes, Social Security Card/Number.
But Kelly, I've never been asked to produce the card, merely the number. Good grief, has Homeland Security driven the bureaucrats mad?
I'll have to pass on your story to my Tony, Tony friend; she'll love it.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Yeah. May be a California thing, may be because I work with kids, but they take a photo copy of my Social Security card not only at job interviews, but at every new sub gig.
Posted by Spiffy (# 5267) on
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I do believe the Federal I-9 Employment Eligibility form requires natural-born USAdians to provide either a photo ID and proof of citizenship (SS card, birth certificate) OR a passport.
The I-9's been around for at least 15 years, 'cause one of my first gigs out of high school was keeping track of I-9s for a series of thrift stores.
[ 14. April 2010, 15:47: Message edited by: Spiffy ]
Posted by jlg (# 98) on
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Yeah, you're right. I've been a stay-at-home-mom and then a kept woman ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
for the past few decades. I'd forgotten that I had to dig out my passport when I was elected Town Treasurer last year in order to get my measly paychecks. I-9, indeed.
The world has truly gone crazy.
Posted by Spike (# 36) on
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This has gone way off subject. Try the Job Search Support thread in All Saints.
Spike
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