Ship of Fools: Texts about parents and children?

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Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on :

Having heard recently the one about honouring ones father and mother all the days of one's life used to clobber someone, I am wondering what could be used in a counter argument, without sounding clobbering in reverse. As ones about leaving parents to follow Jesus could be, or cleaving to wives.

I don't recall hearing any preaching on respecting one's offspring's autonomy in the days I used to hear preaching.

Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :

Well there's always Jesus on forsaking father and mother to follow Him. And is it in the OT where a man and a woman leave their families and become one, starting up their own unit?

Posted by BroJames (# 9636) on :

How about Ephesians 6. 4 "Fathers do not exasperate your children"
(BTW it isn't honour them all the days of your life… It is honour them that your days may be long in the land the Lord your God is giving you.)

Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on :

Luke 12:49-53...

quote:
49 “I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! 50 But I have a baptism to undergo, and what constraint I am under until it is completed! 51 Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division. 52 From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three. 53 They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

Proving conclusively that Jesus was able to foresee future mealtime commemorations of his birthday.

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Posted by Moo (# 107) on :

Another relevant text is Malachi 4:5-6.

quote:
Lo, I will send you the prophet Elijah before the great and terrible day of the Lord comes. He will turn the hearts of parents to their children and the hearts of children to their parents, so that I will not come and strike the land with a curse.

Moo

Posted by venbede (# 16669) on :

And the simple fact that when he takes children on his knee and praises them.he treats them as humans in their own right and not as an appendage of their parents.

And as someone with a great devotion to Mary, it is embarrassing to mention Jesus' comments to her at the finding in the Temple. But it means parents must expect their children to grow up as adults in their own right.

Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on :

Thank you. I have discovered that the quote was wrong while rereading the 10 commandments, and then double checking on line.
And faced with the correct version, it seems not to apply to non-Jews outside Israel in the original!

Posted by BroJames (# 9636) on :

Though to be fair, the writer to the Ephesians re-applies it in a gentile Christian context: Ephesians 6.1

Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on :

venbede wrote:

quote:
And as someone with a great devotion to Mary, it is embarrassing to mention Jesus' comments to her at the finding in the Temple.

I know a devout Catholic who was not offended by much in the movie The Last Temptation Of Christ, EXCEPT for the scence dramatizing the episode you mention there. She could not believe that it was taken from the Bible, and was certain that it had just been cooked up by the screenwriters.

Conversely, when I saw the movie in the theatre, the most dramatic reaction registered was from a young woman who stormed out of the theatre(male companion following closely behind) during the scene dramatizing the Sacred Heart Of Jesus motif.

So, if nothing else, that film was able to unite Christians of all stripes in animosity, even if they would all disagree on the reasons.

[ 26. February 2017, 07:15: Message edited by: Stetson ]

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