Ship of Fools: Society of SS. Peter and Paul, assorted books, inquiries.

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Posted by PG2017 (# 18737) on :

Apart from placing an advertisment in the Church Times (my last resort), as well as going through the usual antiquarian book-shops, can anyone help me trace the Anglican Missal published by the Society of SS. Peter and Paul (not the better known Missal translated by W. Knott, which is easily obtainable at the present.

It is an interesting book (I believe used at S. Mary's Bourne St.) with a very striking frontispiece.

https://archive.org/stream/anglicanmissal00churuoft#page/n3/mode/2up

Incidentally I would be grateful for information, out of curiosity, about the Office-book published by the same Society. I shall try to scan a few Congress Books at some point.

[ 06. March 2017, 17:04: Message edited by: PG2017 ]

Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :

eBay?

IJ

Posted by Offeiriad (# 14031) on :

I hope you have deep pockets, as if you find one it will be expensive I'm afraid! I was fortunate to get one of the last from Faith House Bookshop when they had a clear out and found some unbound altar copies that must have been put aside years previously.

Welcome to the Ship, by the way!

[ 06. March 2017, 17:28: Message edited by: Offeiriad ]

Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on :

You might try searching at abe.books.com, which is a used-book aggregator. I have found things there that I could find nowhere else. And ebay is also a good tip.

Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :

Are you set on acquiring an original copy, or will a facsimile do?

There are publishers who specialise in reproducing out-of-print and/or obscure/forgotten books, and who may be worth a try.

Google would probably be your friend.

IJ

Posted by Hilda of Whitby (# 7341) on :

I checked Abebooks. There are several "on demand" facsimiles available of the 1921 Society of Saints Peter and Paul publication; no originals that I could see.

Posted by PG2017 (# 18737) on :

Many grateful thanks -- I shall keep my ear to the ground. Incidentally I have several of the Congress Books of the Society of SS. Peter and Paul and may scan them.

Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on :

Our parish priest possesses a copy of the book, which she proudly showed to me a week or so ago, but I don't think she will part with it. Apart from the fact we are on the opposite side of the globe, she and her husband are huge bibliophiles.

Posted by Prester John (# 5502) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
Our parish priest possesses a copy of the book, which she proudly showed to me a week or so ago, but I don't think she will part with it. Apart from the fact we are on the opposite side of the globe, she and her husband are huge bibliophiles.

That's one heck of a Sunday morning commute!

Posted by PG2017 (# 18737) on :

Please forgive my tardiness in replying. I would be most interested if I could see a photograph of the Australian copy.

God bless.

Posted by Arethosemyfeet (# 17047) on :

Either someone is posting while drunk or that is the worst attempt at an April Fool I've seen in a long time.

Posted by ThunderBunk (# 15579) on :

Et cum spirito tuo, PG2017.

The remaining fumes of gin/turpentine, anyone?

Posted by venbede (# 16669) on :

For the benefit of other readers, the sort of milieu castigated above was very much of its period, 1930s, and limited to a few places (West End, Oxford, Brighton, etc) and certainly had its Roman Catholic equivalent (Brideshead Revisited, Fr Rolfe, Roland Firbank).

There was plenty of very different Anglo Catholic activity: above all gaining loyal working class congregations, up till then alienated from the C of E, as well as distinctive scholarly and academic work (Gregory Dix, Michael Ramsey), new suburban churches and a large number of religious communities, both contemplative and very active among the needy. The Pope may have declared Anglican sacraments invalid, but contemplative prayer and the service of the poor by Anglo Catholics can hardly be condemned.

Posted by Forthview (# 12376) on :

I like to think of myself as a 'good,traditional Roman Catholic', but I don't recognise in any way my ideas of 'good,traditional Roman Catholicism' in what PG has written.

Leo XIII may not have recognised Anglo-Catholicism as authentic Roman Catholicism but it most certainly does not mean that Anglo-Catholicism is not authentic Christianity.
The Sacraments,as celebrated by Anglo-Catholics are very clearly not authentic Roman Catholic celebrations of the Sacraments but that does not mean necessarily that they are not authentic sacraments which minister grace to the recipients.

Also what PG understands by both 'good' and 'traditional' may not be the same as my understanding which is ,of course, that of the Roman Pontiff of today.

Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :

PG2017 is an ungrateful barsteward, after all the help we've given him regarding his obscure book enquiries....

I suspect too much GIN has had a deleterious effect, and that the best thing to do to him is to quietly ignore him, and let him sleep it off.

Or procure him a one-way ticket to a nice sanatorium, somewhere very Catholic...

[Killing me]

Posted by Enoch (# 14322) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
PG2017 is an ungrateful barsteward, after all the help we've given him regarding his obscure book enquiries....

I suspect too much GIN has had a deleterious effect, and that the best thing to do to him is to quietly ignore him, and let him sleep it off.

Or procure him a one-way ticket to a nice sanatorium, somewhere very Catholic...

IJ

Not gin surely. As a good Catholic one has to presume that PG2017's liquid of intoxication has to be grappa - or possibly Paddy, Jamesons and Bushmills having historically had Prod proprietors I think.

Posted by David Goode (# 9224) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Enoch:
Not gin surely. As a good Catholic one has to presume that PG2017's liquid of intoxication has to be grappa - or possibly Paddy, Jamesons and Bushmills having historically had Prod proprietors I think.

Sounds more like a surfeit of sour grapes.

Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :

Apologies for only just getting to this, I was otherwise occupied over the weekend.

I am not sure whether this is a (very bad) attempt at an April Fool's joke, some sub-species of troll o other, or a genuine rant from a real but somewhat disturbed individual. Or, hell, all of those.

[For anyone who is confused, this related to a bizarre and offensive diatribe the OP'er posted after their question had been answered, and which I have since deleted]

Whichever it is, the question in the OP has been answered so I think we are done here - thread closed!

dj_ordinaire, Eccles host

[ 03. April 2017, 17:27: Message edited by: dj_ordinaire ]

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