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rhflan
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Our landlord sucks. She is the worst landlord I've *EVER* had. You have to complain about something MULTIPLE times for her to do anything about it....and half the time she still doesn't. We moved in last August and some of our outlets weren't working. They're still not. The door to our apartment hasn't latched since December (and even before then it didn't always work properly). Since moving in I've probably complained about it at least 5 times.
Now we have new downstairs neighbours...who smoke...in their apartment. According to our lease, there is to be ZERO smoking on the entire property. I saw them last night smoking in their unit, and tonight I could smell it. Seemed to be a mixture of cigarette smoke and pot (to be fair, it's been a while since I've smelled pot...but it's the only thing that I could think of that would smell like that).
I'm just fed up with it. If we were going to be staying in this town past our lease I would just have us pack up and move NOW.
She (landlord) is just the most useless good-for-nothing person I've ever met!
GGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Evensong
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Can you just bitch?
I'm not sure. Usually you need to project your innate anger (that comes from the shadow side of your soul and is usually made worse by frustration and resentment and disappointment ) onto something and then bitch.
*Looks up. Noticed OP*. Oh no wait. It's all good. Carry on.
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Kelly Alves
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Bitch, please.
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Steve H
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Originally posted by rhflan:
Now we have new downstairs neighbours...who smoke...in their apartment. According to our lease, there is to be ZERO smoking on the entire property. I saw them last night smoking in their unit, and tonight I could smell it. Seemed to be a mixture of cigarette smoke and pot (to be fair, it's been a while since I've smelled pot...but it's the only thing that I could think of that would smell like that).
Why the bloody blue bollocking blazes shouldn't they smoke in their own apartment? Jesus wept - you anti-smoking fascists really piss me off!
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Spike
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Does the landlord own the other apartment? If not, there's bugger all she can do about it.
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Ariel
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Because these are (at least I assume so) tenants and the property isn't theirs. If you don't own your own home, you take what goes with the lease. The landlord - or landlady - has every right to ban smoking if she wants.
It might not bother you, but I can still remember many years ago renting a bedsit with net curtains, and discovering after I'd moved in that they weren't actually net curtains, it was just the congealed smoke on the windows. The place reeked of stale smoke, the ceiling was brown and there were cigarette burns on the furniture. I can't say I blame any landlady for banning smoking in her property.
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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by Ariel:
Because these are (at least I assume so) tenants and the property isn't theirs. If you don't own your own home, you take what goes with the lease. The landlord - or landlady - has every right to ban smoking if she wants.
Just one more reason why buying your own home is vastly preferable to renting.
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Ariel
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Assuming you're in a position to do so.
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Marvin the Martian
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Well yes, that goes without saying.
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Boogie
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We are landlords - we ban smoking.
Our tenants are in for the long haul, I'm glad to say - they like us and even invite us to their parties.
The smoking ban is for the sake of future tenants (And ourselves, we don't want to re-decorate throughout if she moves on!)
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Evensong
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Bitch, please.
Dudette. I got about thirty seconds into that vid and its scary I tellsya. Scary.
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Uncle Pete
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Originally posted by Steve H:
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Originally posted by rhflan:
Now we have new downstairs neighbours...who smoke...in their apartment. According to our lease, there is to be ZERO smoking on the entire property. I saw them last night smoking in their unit, and tonight I could smell it. Seemed to be a mixture of cigarette smoke and pot (to be fair, it's been a while since I've smelled pot...but it's the only thing that I could think of that would smell like that).
Why the bloody blue bollocking blazes shouldn't they smoke in their own apartment? Jesus wept - you anti-smoking fascists really piss me off!
If you'd bother to read the OP, you'd note that no smoking in unit was a condition of the lease. Yell at the OP's landlord. But spare us.
Idiot.
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Twilight
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I saw them last night smoking in their unit,
Poor newbies. Landlady probably needed renters so didn't even mention any smoking rules. Now he's just moved in and he has some guy peeping in his window.
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Poptart22
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Originally posted by Twilight:
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I saw them last night smoking in their unit,
Poor newbies. Landlady probably needed renters so didn't even mention any smoking rules. Now he's just moved in and he has some guy peeping in his window.
We're not peeping, quit being ridiculous. It was dark out and their light was on and they were just right there smoking as we walked in with our laundry. But last night we didn't look at anyone...it just smelled AWFUL out there. The non-smoking thing is in the lease. It's pretty hard to miss. We liked the non-smoking rule, not only does it just stink, my aunt just died waiting for her second lung transplant and it pisses me off seeing people waste good lungs when she never once had a good pair (and she never smoked).
Peeping in someone's window is creepy. People have done it to us and we've gotten in trouble for being "inappropriate" (which is probably code for making out) when the problem is not with us, but the creepy people standing in JUST the right spot for a very long time to even possibly catch something.
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rhflan
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Originally posted by Twilight:
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I saw them last night smoking in their unit,
Poor newbies. Landlady probably needed renters so didn't even mention any smoking rules. Now he's just moved in and he has some guy peeping in his window.
As we were told off by our landlady when a peeping tom saw something 'inappropriate' (the only thing we could have been doing was kissing), the new tenants might as well learn early on that our landlord doesn't have a problem with peeping toms. Though for the record, I wasn't peeping in his window...the window in question is HUGE and faces the front of the building. So if the blinds are pulled up (as they were the night that I saw someone smoking), assuming you're not blind, you really can't help but look in the window as you're walking up the front door of the building.
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rhflan
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The reason that I'm so annoyed by it is that it's in the lease. So it's the landlord's job to enforce the lease. But she doesn't. She also doesn't properly maintain the property. And on top of it all, she charges an arm & a leg for rent. We had to deal with a weeks worth of 90+ degree heat in March with no A/C. I've had things stolen out of the laundry room (which is automatically locked when you leave it...meaning that it was either a current or past tenant who stole the stuff).
Part of the reason I even wanted to live here was the no smoking on the property clause in the lease. I have asthma and bad allergies and tend to get bronchitis a couple of times a year. Being around smoke is quite bad for my health.
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EtymologicalEvangelical
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Originally posted by rhflan
Our landlord sucks. She is the worst landlord I've *EVER* had.
Has the word "landlady" now been banned?
Just wonderin'.
(Never quite sure these days. Whatever we say seems to offend some idiot somewhere.)
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Anselmina
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Originally posted by Twilight:
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I saw them last night smoking in their unit,
Poor newbies. Landlady probably needed renters so didn't even mention any smoking rules. Now he's just moved in and he has some guy peeping in his window.
Presumably, though, they did read and understand the terms of their own lease? Smoking rules are a pretty important clause, surely, if it's going to be your home, and also happens to be someone else's property?
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Tortuf
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Banning smoking is a cost saving issue with landlords. Smoke gets into softs like carpet and cannot be cleaned out well enough to satisfy non-smokers. It also mingles with any grease floating around the kitchen from frying and attaches itself, and its smell, to the walls, counters and cabinets. That adds an extra level of cleaning/replacing when smokers leave a rental unit.
If the landlord does not have to calculate in the cost of extra cleaning and replacing at the end of a lease the entire lease can cost less. The smokers are not just irritating their neighbors, they are cheating their landlady out of money.
Don't get distracted by the peeping tom issue.
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rhflan
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Originally posted by EtymologicalEvangelical:
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Originally posted by rhflan
Our landlord sucks. She is the worst landlord I've *EVER* had.
Has the word "landlady" now been banned?
Just wonderin'.
(Never quite sure these days. Whatever we say seems to offend some idiot somewhere.)
Landlady is quite fine, but when I hear or read that word, I always imagine it's coming out of the mouth of a little old grey haired lady from church...lol.
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Zacchaeus
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I always think of a landlady as someone who is running a public house.
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Poptart22
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When I think landlady, I think of an old woman hitting the ceiling with the broom because they're too loud, or someone on a TV show who complains in sort of a harsh way to the cops about the person never paying rent on time.
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jedijudy
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Originally posted by Steve H:
Jesus wept - you anti-smoking fascists really piss me off!
[continuing tangent]
And you thoughtless smokers kill me. Two weeks ago I had a severe asthma attack. My pulmonologist wanted to put me in the hospital, but I begged to go home, so he caved and I went right to the pharmacy to get my meds before going home. Outside the pharmacy door, where no smoking is permitted, was a woman smoking. A cloud surrounded her and the door. It literally knocked me to my knees. My friend who was driving me was this || close to calling an ambulance.
That's what your smoking does to me.
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Twilight
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That's a shame, Jedi Judy, but has nothing to do with a man smoking in his own home.
We haven't seen the lease he signed. The landlady may have changed her rules, in which case that's something to take up with her rather than the new guy.
I don't smoke and wouldn't want to rent an apartment that smelled like it, but every place I've lived in has had a policy of fresh paint and carpet cleaning between renters.
As for looking at people and getting angry because they're hurting their lungs, do you get angry when you see people eating ice cream because they might be hurting their pancreas? How about loud music and ears or candy and teeth? When did other people's internal organs become your business?
You fitness fanatics are getting to be more judgmental than the Puritans ever were.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Twilight:
As for looking at people and getting angry because they're hurting their lungs, do you get angry when you see people eating ice cream because they might be hurting their pancreas? How about loud music and ears or candy and teeth? When did other people's internal organs become your business?
You fitness fanatics are getting to be more judgmental than the Puritans ever were.
It isn't just their own bodies that smokers and drinkers harm. You know that, don't be so ignorant.
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Twilight
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
It isn't just their own bodies that smokers and drinkers harm. You know that, don't be so ignorant.
Drinking isn't part of this conversation. As for passive smoking, the health risk is tiny.
From Bill Bryson's I'm a Stranger Here Myself:
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A rate of 1 in 30,000 [non-smokers getting cancer form regular exposure to side stream smoke] sounds reasonably severe, but it doesn't actually amount to much. Eating one pork chop a week is statistically more likely to give you cancer than sitting routinely in a roomful of smokers. So, too, is consuming a carrot every seven days, a glass of orange juice twice a month or a head of lettuce every two years.
Side stream smoke is just one of those things that people got all lathered about for no good reason except that it satisfies the tsk tsk need in some people.
For every person like JediJudy who really can't be around smoke there are a hundred like the OP couple, who see someone through a window smoking, and start screaming about how now their clothes smell like ashtrays!
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jedijudy
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Originally posted by Twilight:
That's a shame, Jedi Judy, but has nothing to do with a man smoking in his own home.
That's why I labeled my post a tangent referring to the quote:
anti-smoking fascists...
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Kelly Alves
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Judy, will you just hold still and receive your gauntlet-slap like a good girl?
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Evensong
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Originally posted by Twilight:
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
It isn't just their own bodies that smokers and drinkers harm. You know that, don't be so ignorant.
Drinking isn't part of this conversation. As for passive smoking, the health risk is tiny.
From Bill Bryson's I'm a Stranger Here Myself:
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A rate of 1 in 30,000 [non-smokers getting cancer form regular exposure to side stream smoke] sounds reasonably severe, but it doesn't actually amount to much. Eating one pork chop a week is statistically more likely to give you cancer than sitting routinely in a roomful of smokers. So, too, is consuming a carrot every seven days, a glass of orange juice twice a month or a head of lettuce every two years.
Side stream smoke is just one of those things that people got all lathered about for no good reason except that it satisfies the tsk tsk need in some people.
For every person like JediJudy who really can't be around smoke there are a hundred like the OP couple, who see someone through a window smoking, and start screaming about how now their clothes smell like ashtrays!
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Always thought pollution from cars and factories would be tons worse than the occasional second hand smoke from us smokers for most people.
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I was in Georgia a few weeks ago, where people were smoking in taxis, restaurants and even where we were working. Since then I've been coughing. The other night in a pub here in Poland there was a smoking room, but with only a plastic cover inbetween. Not only did my clothes stink afterwards, but my eyes were sore.
Still, it's the smokers who are the victims ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
I was told once when I moved into a flat for a year that I couldn't smoke, had I wanted to, as it would have discoloured the ceiling.
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Originally posted by Twilight:
I don't smoke and wouldn't want to rent an apartment that smelled like it, but every place I've lived in has had a policy of fresh paint and carpet cleaning between renters.
Not enough. We moved into a large vicarage which had been (or shortly was) redecorated throughout and inherited few if any carpets. My predecessor and his lodgers had chain-smoked (not only tobacco); the smell, and the dirt, lingered for a couple of years. I dread to think what a small flat must be like after that sort of use.
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You can be very selective about the research you read about passive smoking - according to this literature review of the 37% of reports that concluded that passive smoking was not an issue, 74% were written by authors with tobacco industry affiliations.
The Lancet published a review of the risks of passive smoking* in 2010 which puts the mortality rates from passive smoking at 1% of the worldwide mortality. It's not mortality that's the major issue, it's the lung disease, particularly in children and heart problems in adults that passive smoking ,causes.
*tinyurl to avoid the brackets in that link
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Twilight:
From Bill Bryson's I'm a Stranger Here Myself:
A rate of 1 in 30,000 [non-smokers getting cancer form regular exposure to side stream smoke] sounds reasonably severe, but it doesn't actually amount to much. Eating one pork chop a week is statistically more likely to give you cancer than sitting routinely in a roomful of smokers. So, too, is consuming a carrot every seven days, a glass of orange juice twice a month or a head of lettuce every two years.
That would be Bill Bryson, epidemiologist?
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Steve H
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by Twilight:
From Bill Bryson's I'm a Stranger Here Myself:
A rate of 1 in 30,000 [non-smokers getting cancer form regular exposure to side stream smoke] sounds reasonably severe, but it doesn't actually amount to much. Eating one pork chop a week is statistically more likely to give you cancer than sitting routinely in a roomful of smokers. So, too, is consuming a carrot every seven days, a glass of orange juice twice a month or a head of lettuce every two years.
That would be Bill Bryson, epidemiologist?
No; Bill Bryson, journalist-who's-perfectly-capable-of-doing-some-research.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Steve H:
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by Twilight:
From Bill Bryson's I'm a Stranger Here Myself:
A rate of 1 in 30,000 [non-smokers getting cancer form regular exposure to side stream smoke] sounds reasonably severe, but it doesn't actually amount to much. Eating one pork chop a week is statistically more likely to give you cancer than sitting routinely in a roomful of smokers. So, too, is consuming a carrot every seven days, a glass of orange juice twice a month or a head of lettuce every two years.
That would be Bill Bryson, epidemiologist?
No; Bill Bryson, journalist-who's-perfectly-capable-of-doing-some-research.
Aha, a journalist. That trade which presents objective information.
Journo's write to persuade, even good'uns like Bill Bryson. Information presented by journalists is as variable aand authoritative as that in Wikipedia (though both are usually better than 'a man I met in a pub').
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Poptart22
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Originally posted by Twilight:
That's a shame, Jedi Judy, but has nothing to do with a man smoking in his own home.
We haven't seen the lease he signed. The landlady may have changed her rules, in which case that's something to take up with her rather than the new guy.
I don't smoke and wouldn't want to rent an apartment that smelled like it, but every place I've lived in has had a policy of fresh paint and carpet cleaning between renters.
As for looking at people and getting angry because they're hurting their lungs, do you get angry when you see people eating ice cream because they might be hurting their pancreas? How about loud music and ears or candy and teeth? When did other people's internal organs become your business?
You fitness fanatics are getting to be more judgmental than the Puritans ever were.
Sometimes I wonder if you're being ridiculous on purpose, but I'm not sure. rhflan and I KNOW the lease has not changed, as we have discussed this issue with our landlord. Please stop making assumptions when you don't actually live in our building. We ARE taking it up with the landlord. We could have banged on their door and said they make the common area reek, but instead we did what we were supposed to do. Now we're waiting for the landlord to do her part, and perhaps remind the new tenants to reread their lease.
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rhflan
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Originally posted by Twilight:
That's a shame, Jedi Judy, but has nothing to do with a man smoking in his own home.
We haven't seen the lease he signed. The landlady may have changed her rules, in which case that's something to take up with her rather than the new guy.
I don't smoke and wouldn't want to rent an apartment that smelled like it, but every place I've lived in has had a policy of fresh paint and carpet cleaning between renters.
As for looking at people and getting angry because they're hurting their lungs, do you get angry when you see people eating ice cream because they might be hurting their pancreas? How about loud music and ears or candy and teeth? When did other people's internal organs become your business?
You fitness fanatics are getting to be more judgmental than the Puritans ever were.
Just b/c YOU haven't seen the lease that they signed, doesn't mean that WE (my wife and I) haven't.
*smh*
You get upset b/c we're supposedly making all these assumptions, yet you do the EXACT same thing. I honestly can't stand people that do that.
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Poptart22
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Also, you say "we haven't seen the lease" as if you require some sort of proof to participate in this conversation where it is clear my wife just wants to rant, not have someone pick apart her position. I understand this is posted in Hell so people can be idiots but this is getting pretty bad. Why aren't you taking us at our word? We're just upset because of the stinky disgusting breach of lease, especially because non-smoking building was important to us, and we did go through the proper channels. It's a rant. If you want to rant about people being Puritanical, fine, but not here where it's clear this is not the point. I can't read my wife's mind but I'm pretty sure she just wanted to get all this out and maybe get a few "dude I know how you feel, I'm sorry" things out of it. You piss me off so much I think I'm going to have to take a whole Xanax and be a zombie for a while. Blech.
I'm not going to start a fight with someone who is hurting their own lungs just for that reason (though I'd like to, it's not like donor lungs are easy to come by and they'll probably end up on the transplant list), we're just tired of smelling smoke all the time. It's nasty smoke too. I don't know what they're smoking in there, but it's gross.
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rhflan
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Also, in terms of how dangerous second-hand smoke is, I'll just continue to take the advice of numerous doctors that I've seen for my lung-related issues. I've been advised (but multiple healthcare professionals) to avoid second-hand smoke...which is why I was *very* excited that we found a place where smoking wasn't allowed ANYWHERE on the property, according to the lease.
The lease has not changed. Also, had it changed, it would be a breach on the part of our landlord, meaning she had already broken the lease and we could move out without penalty.
I don't have a problem if you don't know anything about ________, but I find it quite annoying when people who know nothing about __________ talk as if they are experts on the subject. If you're curious as to what the lease ACTUALLY says, why not ask me, instead of assuming that it's just like your lease *coughTwilightcough*
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Tortuf
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Journalists and Truth. Yeah sure.
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ken
Ship's Roundhead
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Originally posted by Tortuf:
Journalists and Truth. Yeah sure.
As a profession they are a damn sight more truthful than estate agents, insurance salesmen, plumbers, or the shites who run our water supplies.
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Ken
L’amor che move il sole e l’altre stelle.
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Originally posted by ken:
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Originally posted by Tortuf:
Journalists and Truth. Yeah sure.
As a profession they are a damn sight more truthful than estate agents, insurance salesmen, plumbers, or the shites who run our water supplies.
Even had I not already known, I could deduce from that exchange that Tortuf is a lawyer!
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rhflan
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Came home to find at least THREE people smoking on the front porch.
Le sigh.
The landlord/lady ![[Biased]](wink.gif) told me yesterday that she talked to the new tenant. Clearly not very well.
When the woman who just moved in introduced herself, I reminded her that there was no smoking allowed on the property. She seemed genuinely confused. Looks like someone didn't read their lease very well, or was perhaps just playing dumb. Anyway, with my asthma, allergies, and other assorted lung issues, I couldn't hang around and chat any longer with her so I just went inside.
The landlord/lady even put up a new 'no smoking' sign on the property either last night or earlier today (I noticed it when I left this morning). The people smoking weren't even ten feet from that sign.
Ugh.
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ken
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Came home to find at least THREE people smoking on the front porch.[...]
The landlord/lady even put up a new 'no smoking' sign on the property either last night or earlier today (I noticed it when I left this morning). The people smoking weren't even ten feet from that sign.
But they were outside? Sounds to me like they are following the rules then. Landlady says no smoking in my building. So they go outside. You won. The landlady has done what you told her to do, the other tenants have done what she told them to do. Congratulations. This is what victory is like.
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Ken
L’amor che move il sole e l’altre stelle.
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rhflan
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Originally posted by ken:
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Originally posted by rhflan:
Came home to find at least THREE people smoking on the front porch.[...]
The landlord/lady even put up a new 'no smoking' sign on the property either last night or earlier today (I noticed it when I left this morning). The people smoking weren't even ten feet from that sign.
But they were outside? Sounds to me like they are following the rules then. Landlady says no smoking in my building. So they go outside. You won. The landlady has done what you told her to do, the other tenants have done what she told them to do. Congratulations. This is what victory is like.
As I've said more than once on this thread, there is to be no smoking on ANY of the property (that includes more than just the building, but the entire lot that it's on). So no, they haven't done what the landlord told them to do, as she told them not to smoke on the property.
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rhflan
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I know that people like to throw their two cents into a thread, but it might do good for people to actually know what the thread is about. It's not even that long yet and already at least two people seem clueless as to what I'm bitching about. It would probably be especially helpful if people would actually read my original post.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by rhflan:
I know that people like to throw their two cents into a thread, but it might do good for people to actually know what the thread is about. It's not even that long yet and already at least two people seem clueless as to what I'm bitching about. It would probably be especially helpful if people would actually read my original post.
You were bitching about
i) your landlord not fixing stuff
ii) your landlord not enforcing a 'no smoking' rule in another apartment.
It looks like bitch ii) has been remedied. Batch i) remains.
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churchgeek
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Now we have new downstairs neighbours...who smoke...in their apartment. According to our lease, there is to be ZERO smoking on the entire property. I saw them last night smoking in their unit, and tonight I could smell it. Seemed to be a mixture of cigarette smoke and pot (to be fair, it's been a while since I've smelled pot...but it's the only thing that I could think of that would smell like that).
Why the bloody blue bollocking blazes shouldn't they smoke in their own apartment? Jesus wept - you anti-smoking fascists really piss me off!
Because some landlords designate a building as "non-smoking," and smokers are pretty much never forced at gunpoint to sign leases in such buildings. Smokers can just live elsewhere. People who need a non-smoking environment do just that all the time.
Once you specifically move into a smoke-free building to be free of all that second-hand smoke that does get into your apartment no matter how hermetically sealed some might imagine apartments to be, you shouldn't be forced to breathe someone else's nasty air just because they take it upon themselves to violate the (legally binding) terms of their lease.
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