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St. Gwladys
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Am I the only one who isn't interested in street parties and bunting, who simply wants to enjoy a long weekend?
There is tto be a treet party in our street. We live on the end of the only flat bit, so we've got to move the car from outside our house by 10am and can't rerturn it till 6pm. The street will be "dressed" on Sunday. This means having bunting draped from bedroom window to bedroom window. (It is a terraced street) I don't want bunting hanging from my bedroom window!
It's not that I'm anti-monarchist, but I don't like forced, organised jollity!

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Yer an old grump is what you are! See if Brenda ever stops by to have a chinwag over tea! [Disappointed]

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If it is a good street party, it won't remain organized for long! [Big Grin]

Yes, you are on the part of the street that is going to bear more of the burden, but what are we talking about here? Having to park your car elsewhere for 8 hours (during many of which you can be happily socializing with your neighbors and having a good time and not really needing a car) and for one day you have to tolerate bunting on your house. In exchange, you and your neighbors get a chance to socialize together, enjoy each other's company and perhaps learn a little more about each other in a relaxed atmosphere. Obviously, YMMV, but from my perspective, that's a great bargain!

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I'm a republican so it doesn't appeal to me at all. I obviously joined the parties at the CofE school where I work, without comment. I even stood up for the anthem.

But the rest of it will be passing me by.

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I absolutely love it. Bunting everywhere and I've had the same experience with my cottage. There is a great poster of Our Sovereign Lady on the gate.

I just DREAD the boring hateful OLYMPICS. I wish they'd go away never to return to this or any other country.

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I am doing everything I can to avoid the jubilee. I am not a fan of the queen at all and see no reason to celebrate anything. I desperately hope that I don't bump into any street parties. If I do see one I will walk right past and carry on trying to have a normal day.

I'm just looking forward to Wednesday when it is all over.

By the way I also hate the olympics. I am not interested in sport of any description. But mostly that is easier to avoid, I can just turn off the TV and find entertainment in things that actually interest me.

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Parking elsewhere becomes more of a problem when a] no-one has a garage, everyone parks on the street,
and b] Some days last week I could hardly walk from the car, parked in front of our house, into the house. [Frown]
At least it's supposed to be cooler on Monday which will make the walking a little easier, but I don't really want to have to use my mobility scooter just to be able to get into the house!

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I agree on the Olympics, but we had a good party on 28th May as it was Oak Apple Day, to celebrate the glorious return of Our late Sovereign Lord King Charles II and the Restoration of the monarchy in 1660.

28th May by happy co-incidence happens to be the anniversary of His late Majesty's birthday. I was asked to speak in the local school, and was pleased to be able to tell of the joy of the people at His Majesty's happy return.

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quote:
Originally posted by sebby:
I absolutely love it. Bunting everywhere and I've had the same experience with my cottage. There is a great poster of Our Sovereign Lady on the gate.

I just DREAD the boring hateful OLYMPICS. I wish they'd go away never to return to this or any other country.

I'm enjoying all the decorations too, though I agree once anything is forced on you ("you will enjoy this") it ceases to become a pleasure.

I agree about the Olympics - what a waste of time and money. Maybe we need a thread in Hell? Especially not looking forward to the travel disruption.

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For those int he UK, BBC4 and 6Music is starting a Punk season..
tonight..

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I too am distinctly unenthused by both the Jubilee and the Olympics. The Olympics will largely pass me by, as I don't live in London any more, and I know how to use the TV remote. I'll probably get defaulted into watching some of it though, by family who are more interested.

I thought I'd got away with the Jubilee thing, until a couple of hours ago when one of my neighbours knocked on the door to tell me he's organising a discreet (despite him having bunting in his hand) street party. On a piece of my land. fml.

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I'm a bit torn. I'm Irish enough to vaguely dislike the monarchy and to find the proliferation of Union Jacks slightly discomforting, but I quite like the idea of a street party.
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Speaking of boring sports events, we also still have to get Wimbledon out of the way.

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Originally posted by passer:
I too am distinctly unenthused by both the Jubilee and the Olympics. The Olympics will largely pass me by, as I don't live in London any more, and I know how to use the TV remote.

I thought that too, until I discovered other Olympic venues in the UK - Coventry, Newcastle, Manchester, Weymouth, Cardiff, etc which is why travel disruption is likely to be more widespread than just London.

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Ariel - you frightened me, but Google has calmed my fears! We get the torch on June 25th but that's it. I came over all unnecessary then for a moment!
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I think people, both pro and anti monarchy are taking it way too seriously.

It's an excuse to party, and its an excuse to watch the TV. No one does fancy dress parties like the British monarchy (Not since the Ruskies murdered theirs.)

It's pomp and colour. But it isn't serious. Lighten up.

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No sign of street party hereabouts, at least yet TBTG.

Olympics? Well there was a lot of hoo-ha about the torch at Lands End, but it's all quiet since.

I can work the TV remote, too. So, a chance to catch up on recorded stuff...

I am not anti-monarchy, BTW. But pleased to have HMQ still there, keeping Charlie and horse-face at bay!!

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And boring tweedy William. I have a soft spot for Harry though. He would be a fun king.
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The Scots seem to be keeping themselves well in check. I haven't seen a scrap of bunting. God has indicated approval by gifting us with a tolerably summery weekend, while visiting London with cold and rain.

Ah weel.

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Oh my.
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Up here in the North East of the world's best small country we have union flags, inflatable corgis and plastic crowns galore. I don't mind, but I'm no more going to wear a plastic crown than wave a flag on the street. (I'm not. No, no, no, no so there.)

Cattyish, not getting involved.

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I am not a republican. I cannot abide the thought of an elected Head of State. God help us if ever we had the likes of Tony Blair or David Cameron at the helm.

Nor am I an ardent monarchist.

I would rather we had the Queen / King and cut everyone else out of the Civil List barring the next heir.

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There appears to be a distinct lack of flags and bunting where I live. I think it the whole things is going to pass me by, I have lots of Uni work due for the next week or two, and am at placement Monday and Tuesday, so no celebrating for me!

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Deeply unenthusiastic about the whole thing. However, our outreach committee at church, seeing an opportunity, is organising a Big Lunch for Sunday on the green in the middle of our local housing estate.
This means that beloved husband (chair of the committee) will be involved doing stuff most of the weekend. Youngest son is home from boarding school so I have an ideal reason not to go (oh no, he'll frighten the toddlers/have a meltdown etc.) I might take him down to stuff his face with burgers while I paint a face or two. [Roll Eyes]

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TBTG that I now live in a small village in India - I don't think they'll be any street parties here. If I were still in inner city Liverpool things might be a little different and I might have had to socialise with my dreaded neighbours, or go away for the weekend.

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Practically all the Brits I converse with fairly regularly are my shipmates. As a group you are a bunch of likeable, curmudgeonly individualists. Then when I heard London got the Olympics, I thought, "Oh, noooo! What are this lot going to do with an expensive, extroverted exercise in nationalism? Will there will just be milling, muttering English crowds wandering around, dampening the innocent enthusiasm of visiting sports and festivity enthusiasts?"

Then I see events on the telly: royal weddings, Ascot, Jubilee, and happy multitudes with flags and funny hats (or gorgeous hats at the fancier events) and mums with gurgling babies enjoying the busy streets, and I think: "Why haven't I met these folks?"

Does the Ship have a super-secret screening device that only allows UK citizens whose motto is Bah Humbug to anything that is essentially useless, extravagant, goofy and fun in the moment?

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I'm a republican in theory, but don't feel strongly on the issue. Nothing wrong with street parties, and lots right with them, but not my scene. I'll be gardening and possibly going for a bike ride for four days. Anyway, there's no S.P. in my street that I know of. Last year, the road round the corner had the world's most half-hearted street party ever for the nuptials - a table and a few chairs for the adults, and a mini-bouncy castle for the sprogs, on a green area they've got in front of some of the houses.

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Nice to see lots of union jacks*, instead of the increasingly ubiquitous St George's cross of England, which is a bit crap as a flag anyway, quite apart from questions of the unity or otherwise of Britain. If the Scots want independence, good luck to them, but a St-Andrew's-crossless flag for the rest of us looks a bit feeble. Maybe we could incorporate the cross of St David for the Welsh. It's yellow and black, so the resulting new Union Jack* should be colourful.

*Yes, I do mean "union jack", not "flag", a word insisted on only by the tiresomely pedantic. I can be as pedantic as anyone when the fit is on me, but, like most pedants, I reserve the right to criticise other people's pet pedantries.

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quote:
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I am not a republican. I cannot abide the thought of an elected Head of State. God help us if ever we had the likes of Tony Blair or David Cameron at the helm.

Since the person with real power in this country is the Prime Minister, we've already had Tony Blair at the helm, and are now lumbered with that fatuous posh idiot Cameron. The monarch is a mere figurehead.

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quote:
I just DREAD the boring hateful OLYMPICS. I wish they'd go away never to return to this or any other country.

Shades of Sydney 2000! However, for three weeks we had an unexpected bonus. The trains were spotless and ran exactly to time. Sad to say, they reverted immediately after to what we were used to. I was given someone's spare ticket to the pentathlon. I would never have bought any tickets but it was a bit of fun seeing a sample of the different sports involved.

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quote:
Originally posted by Steve H:
quote:
Originally posted by shamwari:
I am not a republican. I cannot abide the thought of an elected Head of State. God help us if ever we had the likes of Tony Blair or David Cameron at the helm.

Since the person with real power in this country is the Prime Minister, we've already had Tony Blair at the helm, and are now lumbered with that fatuous posh idiot Cameron. The monarch is a mere figurehead.
I thought the people with real power were bankers, city traders, media moguls and CEOs of those corporations with a book value of a small country. An elected head of state leading a government that could do its job without sucking up to these would be change for the better.

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quote:
Originally posted by Steve H:
I'm a republican in theory, but don't feel strongly on the issue. Nothing wrong with street parties, and lots right with them, but not my scene.

That's me too. I'm not a raging republican, but I don't like the idea of an aristocracy - which is what the monarchy perpetuates. A monarchy like Norway's would do fine imo.

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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
quote:
Originally posted by Steve H:
I'm a republican in theory, but don't feel strongly on the issue. Nothing wrong with street parties, and lots right with them, but not my scene.

That's me too. I'm not a raging republican, but I don't like the idea of an aristocracy - which is what the monarchy perpetuates. A monarchy like Norway's would do fine imo.

<typo>

Many of the aristocracy look down their noses at the royal family as a bunch of immigrants, much as the BNP and UKIP look on Poles and Pakistanis.

[ 02. June 2012, 09:02: Message edited by: Sioni Sais ]

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quote:
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Many of the aristocracy look down their noses at the royal family as a bunch of immigrants,

Bit rich, considering they came over with William the Bastard. Actually, all those arrivistes off the longboats can go back where they came from as well.
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quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
TBTG that I now live in a small village in India - I don't think they'll be any street parties here. If I were still in inner city Liverpool things might be a little different and I might have had to socialise with my dreaded neighbours, or go away for the weekend.

No street parties in India? In the village? Ever been to a wedding? Ever cadged a free meal?

Don't mind Wodders, folks. He's just getting really old.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Many of the aristocracy look down their noses at the royal family as a bunch of immigrants,

Bit rich, considering they came over with William the Bastard. Actually, all those arrivistes off the longboats can go back where they came from as well.
I'd have to either cut myself into little pieces or try cloning, which would you prefer?

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I loathe republicanism and the very thought makes me reach for my flintlock pistols.

Although really for the Stuarts, support for this this Royal House did seriously make me think about taking a few boxing lessons just in case someone in the village pub took a different view. My smart right hook won't be necessary I think.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Steve H:
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Originally posted by shamwari:
I am not a republican. I cannot abide the thought of an elected Head of State. God help us if ever we had the likes of Tony Blair or David Cameron at the helm.

Since the person with real power in this country is the Prime Minister, we've already had Tony Blair at the helm, and are now lumbered with that fatuous posh idiot Cameron. The monarch is a mere figurehead.
I thought the people with real power were bankers, city traders, media moguls and CEOs of those corporations with a book value of a small country. An elected head of state leading a government that could do its job without sucking up to these would be change for the better.
This is very true - but whoever has the real power, it ain't the monarch, who is a mere figurehead.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Boogie:
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Originally posted by Steve H:
I'm a republican in theory, but don't feel strongly on the issue. Nothing wrong with street parties, and lots right with them, but not my scene.

That's me too. I'm not a raging republican, but I don't like the idea of an aristocracy - which is what the monarchy perpetuates. A monarchy like Norway's would do fine imo.<typo>
Many of the aristocracy look down their noses at the royal family as a bunch of immigrants, much as the BNP and UKIP look on Poles and Pakistanis.
Prince big-ears can trace his ancestry back to Alfred the great. There may have been a German branch of the family from whom he's more recently descended, but the idea that the modern royals are a bunch of kraut Johnny-come-latelys is over-simplifying.

[ 02. June 2012, 12:40: Message edited by: Steve H ]

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I see even Google is on the Jubilee act!

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Well, I'm not bothered much about the Olympics.

I'm not a republican either, and I'm pleased to say that my fellow churchwarden is having a barbeque in her garden on Monday, where we are all encouraged to go in fancy dress, the theme being 'royalty'. I'm bigging it up as the Queen of the Night from the Magic Flute (and no, I'm not singing that ruddy aria!).

Actually as a staunch supporter of His Grace King Richard III I'm feeling nostalgic for the 15th century. Things just haven't been the same since the last Plantagenet died [Frown] .

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I am anti-monarchy but I will have to walk through two street parties on my way to and from mass tomorrow. I shall be wearing the same badge that i wore for the 25th jubilee "Stop the cuts. Stuff the Jubillee' Still relevant.

We are keeping Trinity Sunday and i don't know who is doing the intercessions and whether or not s/he is sentimental enough to pray for the Queen. I always pray for elderly people, however.

I choose the hymns and the national them isn't one of them. I always sit for the National Anthem.

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I too am sick of all the hype, Jubilee and Olympics (Bah Humbug most certainly, I blame the media).

As for the Olympics the final straw for me came this morning. Radio 4 iPM an article about Bill Lucas, an Olympian who flew 81 missions for Bomber Command. The BOA have denied him a place in the 2012 torch relay as he hadn't won a medal in 1948 games. Hells teeth, it just about sums up the whole fiasco. [Mad]

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quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
If I were still in inner city Liverpool things might be a little different

Here in inner-suburban Liverpool there is no sign of a street party. One in our street would be fun, but not, please not, for this obsequious travesty of a Jubilee. Hasn't anyone read Leviticus? [25:8ff]

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Meh...the corporations run the country anyway, whether there is a Queen or a President. So, really it makes no difference between celebrating a Jubilee every five years and a Presidential inauguration.

I guess at least with a President, the figurehead occasionally changes.

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[Snigger]

Like youth on the young, I've often thought the British and Commonwealth Head of State rather squandered on her realm! If she were a cleric or a CEO, she would long ago have upped sticks and gone somewhere where she could've been properly appreciated. [Big Grin]

How much income, proportionately, does the Head of State for Ireland bring into the Dáil coffers, compared to his counterpart across the Bristol Channel? (Do you even know the Irish President's name without googling?) Is there much in the way of queues outside the residence of the President of France or Germany? Or which political party can offer - and literally bank on - a centuries old connection to an intriguing history, complete with unique and priceless artefacts which bring to life the roots of Medievalism, Enlightenment, Renaissance and Industrial Revolution etc?

Which tells you more about the journey, temperament and soul of Scotland: Edinburgh Castle or the Scottish Assembly Building? And Pugin's artwork at Westminster isn't called a Palace for nothing - even though the Commons may roar and bluff their way through self-interested party measures for their personal enrichment for the short time they're permitted to blot the landscape.

Britain would be nothing more than a spit of land in a cold part of the globe, run by the usual rabble of half-wits and mad political genuises, if it didn't have a Queen like Lizzy, and a monarchy stretching back donkeys years to make it feel important! Who would take a pick of notice of the British without the monarchy? [Two face]

'Oh, sorry - who are you again? Ah, yes - Britain - rains a lot, some nice old buildings, once had a rather interesting history? So, what you been doing since you retired?'


Look at Syria, look at Egypt, look at almost every nation that is currently in huge turmoil, where the ordinary people are the everyday victims of military violence or government corruption. Even in its worst incarnation, when this too could be seen in England's Green and Pleasant, the tortuous, evolving and necessary tug of war between Peers and People - monarchy and government - was still struggling to create the relatively stable and democratic constitution that the UK has the privilege of experience at the moment.

Enjoy Her Maj, while we still have her and appreciate the good things she's brought to the UK!

Of course this could be a slight wind-up...

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quote:
Originally posted by Angloid:
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
If I were still in inner city Liverpool things might be a little different

Here in inner-suburban Liverpool there is no sign of a street party. One in our street would be fun, but not, please not, for this obsequious travesty of a Jubilee. Hasn't anyone read Leviticus? [25:8ff]
Indeed - a proper Biblical jubilee involves the cancellation of debts and stopping the oppression of the poor. If THAT is what we were celebrating, i'd be at the head oif the queue to celebrate.

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If it were ever to emd, I hope Her Majesty would grab as many art treaures as possible, stuff the tiara into a handbag, sell the palaces and houses or as many as she could before being stopped, and escape somewhere shrieking with laughter and flicking a huge V-sign to the no-called 'citizens'.

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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Many of the aristocracy look down their noses at the royal family as a bunch of immigrants,

Bit rich, considering they came over with William the Bastard. Actually, all those arrivistes off the longboats can go back where they came from as well.
I only suggested that the Nobs regard the royal family as arrivistas, not that this view was at all correct. That should have been apparent from likening it to views held by the BNP and UKIP.

Balaam - you can put that knife down.

I imagine I'm a descendant of King Alfred and William's fellow opporunists too: after over 40 generations the odds are that we all are.

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quote:
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I imagine I'm a descendant of King Alfred and William's fellow opporunists too: after over 40 generations the odds are that we all are.

Yes, but the point is that Big-ears can prove it. I doubt if I could trace my ancestry much further back than the 19th Century even if I wanted to, which I don't.

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I'm a republican so deeply unenamoured with the jubilee. All it and the olympics mean to me is that work will be incredibly busy for months and I can't have a days leave until November. Both these things make me angry.

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