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Posted by Al Eluia (# 864) on :

Has anyone famous shown up at your church for a service?

We had a baptism at our church some time back where I'm almost sure one of the relatives of the person baptized was Morton Kondracke (a conservative TV pundit here in the US). At my brother's church in Oregon, Tonya Harding showed up a couple times. I guess she's more accurately described as infamous.

Any better ones than those?

Posted by cotdd (# 17350) on :

Well, I dunno about 'better', but...

On the Sunday after Team GB won the team equestrian gold medal, we had two members of staff from the team show up for the morning eucharist, dressed in team garb. They got mobbed at the end of the service!

Posted by Gracious rebel (# 3523) on :

Rowan Atkinson has attended our church at family funerals.

Posted by angelica37 (# 8478) on :

Our local MP (and her dog)

Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :

At a former church (wealthier, more prestigious) the Governor, a former Presidential candidate, a Supreme Court Justice, and the wife of the then Vice President. Oh, and a former Archbishop of Canterbury.

At this church our former Congressman (and former Mayor of this city) came to a funeral recently.

Posted by Og, King of Bashan (# 9562) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Gracious rebel:
Rowan Atkinson has attended our church at family funerals.

I hope someone requested "Lasst Uns Erfreuen" for a funeral hymn- I would have to excuse myself to avoid laughing.

Bill Clinton, while President, attended mass at the Episcopal Cathedral here one Sunday. We happened to bring my grandmother to church that Sunday, and all waited to shake his hand at the end of the service. She attempted to say something pleasant to him as she shook his hand, but he was busy speaking with a dignitary next to him, and (probably inadvertently) ignored her. She wasn't a fan to begin with, but I don't think she ever forgave him for that one.

Posted by Japes (# 5358) on :

About 20 years ago, I played the organ at church only if the regular organist was away.

After one Sunday Eucharist, where there had been a Baptism of one of our regular couple's elder child, I remarked that the singing had been rather better than usual, (for a congregation with no regular choir, it was pretty good) and it had sent my playing up a notch or two, as I responded to it.

I'd been asked for a particular voluntary, which I played and had been very grateful for someone who came and page turned for me.

Several people laughed, and said "You do know that most of the visitors were members of The Sixteen. Your pager-turner being one of them!"

I am rather glad, in retrospect, I didn't know! I'd've got serious stage fright!!! As it was, I had enjoyed it all thoroughly, and it still makes me smile.

Posted by Dal Segno (# 14673) on :

Stephen Hawking at a previous church. Various professors at the current one, including a winner of the Templeton Prize and a past president of the International Society for Science and Religion. I see Don Cupitt occasionally, but not in church [Smile]

[ 26. September 2012, 20:32: Message edited by: Dal Segno ]

Posted by Graven Image (# 8755) on :

Grew up in Washington D.C where we had a number of cabinet officers, and senators as members over the years. Then Senator John and Jacqueline Kennedy lived just around the corner from the church and although they went to the Catholic church we often saw them in the neighborhood. We felt all was well in the world if the Secy. of State Cyrus Vance was at home to show up for church on Sunday morning. President Ronald Reagan dropped by one Sunday for a visit, as did the British Ambassador David Ormsby-Gore My personal claim to fame was having Dean Atchison's grandson in my Sunday School Class. Alas living in California for the last 45 years, I have not seen a movie star in church.

[ 26. September 2012, 21:49: Message edited by: Graven Image ]

Posted by churchgeek (# 5557) on :

Back home I remember seeing a local celebrity in church, one of the news anchors in town. I think she's technically a member (?) but I only saw her once - it was Easter, I think.

Where I am now, it's kinda not fair, 'cause we're a high-profile place. Here I go anyway:

Saw Garrison Keillor once. Apparently if he's in town he visits our place. He wrote about it later - it was a baptismal service that moved him. George Schultz (former Secretary of State of the US) sometimes shows up; he lives in town.

Other than that, the only "celebrities" I'm aware of have been invited guests who preached or something. We get a lot of those. Also performers at concerts.

As a verger, I've verged Katharine Jefferts Schori, Frank Griswold, George Carey, Desmond Tutu, Njongonkulu Ndungane, Jim Wallis (who, like me, is from Detroit), and I'm sure I'm forgetting a few luminaries. I didn't get to verge Jane Goodall when she was here to preach one St. Francis' Day, and technically I didn't even get to meet her, though she was seated a couple stalls away. I've also met Matthew Fox and Huston Smith. At concert events we've hosted, I've met kd lang, Bonnie Rait, Martha Reeves (of the Supremes), and Carlos Santana - I might be forgetting some. And then there was our resident artist, Anna Deveare Smith.

Somewhat altering the definition of "celebrity," we've had noted organists Gerre Hancock (RIP), and Dorothy Papadakos has been playing accompaniments to silent films on New Years Eve for a number of years now.

Posted by churchgeek (# 5557) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Graven Image:
Alas living in California for the last 45 years, I have not seen a movie star in church.

I'm shocked! [Eek!]

Posted by cliffdweller (# 13338) on :

quote:
Originally posted by churchgeek:

quote:
Originally posted by Graven Image:
Alas living in California for the last 45 years, I have not seen a movie star in church.
I'm shocked!

Actually, I go to a church here in L.A. that is pretty much of an "industry" church. Most of our members are the working class members of the industry-- studio musicians, carpenters, extras, etc. But we have our fair share of "movie stars" (actually mostly TV actors)-- of the A-, B-, and D- list variety.

Mostly they, of course, are just like us and blend in just fine. The only minor exception I can remember is when my small group Bible study leader had a role on a prime-time soap opera playing a particularly evil villainess. She was, of course, in real life a lovely person and great group leader, but I had to keep reminding myself of that after seeing her engage in all these nasty shenanigans the night before!

Posted by Spike (# 36) on :

Mark Steel has shown up in our shack from time to time

Posted by Jahlove (# 10290) on :

Blair and wife turned up once. Their minders turned some of the regulars away [Projectile]

[ 27. September 2012, 00:02: Message edited by: Jahlove ]

Posted by chive (# 208) on :

Many years ago when I was a stroppy teenage wee free, Ian Paisley turned up at my church. As he was leaving he said, 'we don't use the NIV at my church' in a horribly snidey fashion and then got the huff when I replied with, 'and we don't condone terrorism at ours.'

Posted by churchgeek (# 5557) on :

quote:
Originally posted by cliffdweller:
The only minor exception I can remember is when my small group Bible study leader had a role on a prime-time soap opera playing a particularly evil villainess. She was, of course, in real life a lovely person and great group leader, but I had to keep reminding myself of that after seeing her engage in all these nasty shenanigans the night before!

That reminds me - they filmed a couple scenes of MILK in our place. For one they built a set in the gym, so you'd never know it was shot there, but the other is the baptism scene, in one of our side chapels (supposed to be a different church in the city). There was some problem with the actor they had to play the priest, so one of our priests stepped in (and was credited with the other actors). It was really weird in the theater, because I'm so used to hearing his voice say the same words IRL as he was saying in the movie. It jolted me a bit!

[ 27. September 2012, 00:56: Message edited by: churchgeek ]

Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :

quote:
Originally posted by cotdd:
Well, I dunno about 'better', but...

On the Sunday after Team GB won the team equestrian gold medal, we had two members of staff from the team show up for the morning eucharist, dressed in team garb. They got mobbed at the end of the service!

And welcome aboard with a nice first post!

Take a wander around and enjoy the cruise - you can introduce yourself up this a-way if you like ... . They don't bite in All Saints.

Zappa
Heaven Host

Posted by Siegfried (# 29) on :

I exchanged the peace with Mister Rogers once at Sixth Presbyterian in Pittsburgh. Found out later it was his home church.

Posted by daisymay (# 1480) on :

Last Sunday we had Horseman's Sunday, and St John's has pictures of that and all sorts of happenings. But no picture of the Bishop of London who will be there this week (next Sunday) for confirmation for adults and youngsters.

Posted by Spike (# 36) on :

quote:
Originally posted by daisymay:
Last Sunday we had Horseman's Sunday, and St John's has pictures of that and all sorts of happenings. But no picture of the Bishop of London who will be there this week (next Sunday) for confirmation for adults and youngsters.

But were there any celebrities there?

Posted by Stejjie (# 13941) on :

I don't know if he's ever been to one of our services, but Matthew Kelly, the actor, is from our neck of the woods and pops into the cafe we run on market days with his mum when he's around. Apparently, one of his first acting roles when he was a lad was in the pantomime which the Congregational Church (which now forms half of our Baptist/Congregational church) used to run.

Which, erm, just goes to show.

Posted by Earwig (# 12057) on :

quote:
Originally posted by chive:
Many years ago when I was a stroppy teenage wee free, Ian Paisley turned up at my church. As he was leaving he said, 'we don't use the NIV at my church' in a horribly snidey fashion and then got the huff when I replied with, 'and we don't condone terrorism at ours.'

Brilliant!

I worked at York Minster when we had Richard Whiteley's funeral there. So we had lots of celebs turn up - Carol Vorderman, Giles Brandreth, Katherine Jenkins (she's tiny!).

We also had a carol service once where Dame Tanni Grey-Thompson was doing a reading. Being no fan of althletics I had no idea how famous she is!

Posted by The Great Gumby (# 10989) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Earwig:

quote:
Originally posted by chive:
Many years ago when I was a stroppy teenage wee free, Ian Paisley turned up at my church. As he was leaving he said, 'we don't use the NIV at my church' in a horribly snidey fashion and then got the huff when I replied with, 'and we don't condone terrorism at ours.'
Brilliant!

Yes, it's the sort of riposte I'd only have come up with hours after the event. Nicely done.

I've always inhabited small churches, so the odds are against me, but I did once find myself in a little village church in Somerset, sitting directly behind Paddy Ashdown.

Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :

Charles Hazelwood turns up when he's home visiting mum. His grandfather and father were priests in our church for many years.

Charles Kennedy was a guest at a wedding while he was leader of the LibDems. So he's heard us sing (and he hasn't come back!)

Posted by Thurible (# 3206) on :

P. D. James is fairly regular at our church.

Thurible

Posted by Albertus (# 13356) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
Mark Steel has shown up in our shack from time to time

How interesting. To ordinary services?

Posted by Sandemaniac (# 12829) on :

We had King Charles I in ours once (not that I was there), but I've yet to recover from discovering that Mickey Dolenz married in my parent's home parish... [Eek!]

Posted by Spike (# 36) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Albertus:

quote:
Originally posted by Spike:
Mark Steel has shown up in our shack from time to time
How interesting. To ordinary services?

Remembrance Sunday usually and occasionally other Scout Church Parade services as one of his kids in in the Scouts

Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on :

No celebs for me personally, but a friend of mine used to go to church with Alice Cooper, and has fond memories of him making faces (possibly not the same ones he makes on stage) over the pew to amuse her small daughter during the service.

Posted by leo (# 1458) on :

Christopher Biggins sat in front of me at my parish church for a large funeral - as former theatre manager - the place was full of luvvies.

I think Biggins is as vacuous as people say he is because he spent the whole time texting on his mobile.

Posted by Thurible (# 3206) on :

Oh, and Peter Hitchens comes for Maundy Thursday.

Thurible

Posted by daisymay (# 1480) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Spike:

quote:
Originally posted by daisymay:
Last Sunday we had Horseman's Sunday, and St John's has pictures of that and all sorts of happenings. But no picture of the Bishop of London who will be there this week (next Sunday) for confirmation for adults and youngsters.
But were there any celebrities there?

Yes, the people in charge of the Council of London, dressed formally, the people who run the horses, and speak about that when they are here, and the extra musicians and singers etc etc.

Posted by Jonah the Whale (# 1244) on :

Queen Beatrix sat in front of me at our church once. I could have reached out and patted her on the back (but I managed to restrain myself).

Posted by Og, King of Bashan (# 9562) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jonah the Whale:
Queen Beatrix sat in front of me at our church once. I could have reached out and patted her on the back (but I managed to restrain myself).

That reminded me of another one at the Cathedral. One of the Royals (Princess Ann maybe?) visited one Sunday. I was not there, but her visit became the stuff of Denver legend, because one of the regular members of Cathedral at that time, a mentally disabled man named Clarence, was. Clarence was rather famous around town, having managed to push his way to the front of important events for years. Naturally, while everyone else tried to give her space, he walked right to where the Princess was sitting, and plopped down in the seat next to her. I believe she handled the situation with grace.

Posted by Al Eluia (# 864) on :

Some of the mentions of ecclesiastical celebrities reminded me of my two run-ins with Desmond Tutu. The first was when he preached at the Episcopal cathedral here in 1984; I chatted with him briefly afterward. Two or three years ago I was standing at the baggage claim at the airport when he walked right in front of my and my family. He was in a sport jacket and Greek fisherman's cap! Startled, I said "Hello!" He replied "Hi" and continued out the door!

Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Trudy Scrumptious:
No celebs for me personally, but a friend of mine used to go to church with Alice Cooper, and has fond memories of him making faces (possibly not the same ones he makes on stage) over the pew to amuse her small daughter during the service.

I used to live in his neighborhood, but he apparently goes to a more evangelical church. I saw his van many times (you can't miss it!), but never saw him. We did have a Shipmeet in his restaurant.

Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :

Was chicken on the menu? (Okay, no doubt that's been said before [Roll Eyes]

)

Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :

I've been to a celebrities church, and heard a singer, famous in the 80s start the first verse in the wrong key.

I could not possibly say who it was [Biased]

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

quote:
Originally posted by balaam:
I've been to a celebrities church, and heard a singer, famous in the 80s start the first verse in the wrong key.

Deliberately? And did they stick to that key!

quote:

I could not possibly say who it was

At first I thought that ws mean, but it would be unfair as there were dozens of dodgy singers, only some of whom could stay in a key, right or wrong.

Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Was chicken on the menu? (Okay, no doubt that's been said before )

IIRC, you were the one who asked about that when we were planning the meet.

Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:

quote:
I could not possibly say who it was
At first I thought that ws mean, but it would be unfair as there were dozens of dodgy singers, only some of whom could stay in a key, right or wrong.

She can stay in key OK,she had the largest selling single in the UK one year, she just came in a perfect 4th above the melody line, if it had been a 3rd or 5th it could have been disguised by singing a harmony line. Being behind a mic at the front of the church leading worship makes it even worse.

Posted by Cryptic (# 16917) on :

Being a city church,we get the odd politician turning up for Christmas or Easter. A few years back, Kevin Rudd (then Pry Mincer of Oz) and his wife turned up a few times unannounced to worship, several of the Sunday School kids got to meet them, and a one particular Sunday was the last week before one of our UK families returned home - they took home a happy snap of themselves with the PM.

At my previous parish, another city church, Hayley Mills turned up before Evensong one Sunday night, she was in Sydney doing a play and dropped in for a look.

Another time I remember telling my Mum on the way home from church that there was a bloke in the congregation that looked just like Michael Crawford. I felt a bit of a dill when Mum told me that Michael Crawford was in Sydney doing concerts... She was really angry with me because she wanted to meet him!

quote:
Originally posted by chive:
Many years ago when I was a stroppy teenage wee free, Ian Paisley turned up at my church. As he was leaving he said, 'we don't use the NIV at my church' in a horribly snidey fashion and then got the huff when I replied with, 'and we don't condone terrorism at ours.'

Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on :

Living as I do in Canada's capital, I frequently used to see politicians and such when I attended a Lowertown parish.

I remember with especial fondness the one (and only) time that the Governor-General, the Prime Minister and the Leader of the Opposition all showed up one Sunday during the run-up to First Communion (They all had kids of that age). I also remember the stunned looks on the Arsey MP minders who had no idea that the others were there, and who spent the entire service muttering into their lapel microphones (or whatever they used back then). Never happened again, if IIRC.

Also when I was a young boy and still a GLE Anglican, Vincent Massey, the first Canadian Governor General, was a faithful member of our parish. He frequently trotted many of the Royal Family to Morning Prayer (and, at the end of his tenure, even Brenda and Her Husband.)

Posted by no prophet (# 15560) on :

In the backwaters of western Canada, no-one famous ever shows up. Feeling quite chastened and provincial just now.

Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jahlove:
Blair and wife turned up once. Their minders turned some of the regulars away ...

I don't approve of turning people away from churches, but for that odious pair I think I'd make an exception. [Devil]

I've been involved in services attended by members of the Royal Family in all the cathedrals I've sung in; at St. Magnus we had on various occasions the Queen, the Queen Mother and King Olav of Norway. We used to get the Duke of York quite often at Belfast because he's the Colonel-in-Chief of the Royal Irish Regiment; we also got the Duke of Edinburgh, Mrs. Thatcher and John Major (separately!) while we were there. The Princess Royal attended a service here in St. John's a couple of years ago.

Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Cryptic:
At my previous parish, another city church, Hayley Mills turned up before Evensong one Sunday night, she was in Sydney doing a play and dropped in for a look.

At last, a way in for me on this thread: I used to deliver milk to her door when helping our local milkman during school holidays [Yipee]

Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on :

In 1992 William Carey turned up at the Baptist church of which I was then a member.

At least, that's whom he claimed to be, and he was dressed appropriately.

Perhaps I should have posted this on the recent Ghosts thread.

Posted by Morlader (# 16040) on :

Many years ago (when I worshipped at a small AC church in S London), Rev (now Archbishop) Desmond Tutu came to one of our morning services and planted a tree near the church. He wasn't a celebrity then, so I'm not sure that counts.
I think he was doing an attachment at a nearby parish.

Posted by Reuben (# 11361) on :

Not my church but....

The former Australian PM (John Howard) was known to visit a little Anglican church on the north shore when he was in office and in Sydney (not sure if he still goes there).

One Sunday a colleague of mine was sitting two rows beind the PM and during prayers saw the side door about to slam shut in the wind. He jumped up from his pew to grab the door before it slammed and as he did saw from the corner of his eye the PM's bodyguard at the back of the church leap up and reach inside his jacket.

Fortunately the door didn't slam and nobody got shot.

Posted by leo (# 1458) on :

Forgot to mention last time I posted: the late Princess Margaret used to go to the 8am mass at St. Aidan's Leeds when I was a server there - her confessor was an ex-Mirfield Monk whose new-ish partner worshipped there, so she stayed with them occasionally.

Although i am anti-monarchy, I found her to be very engaging company on the few occasions I got to speak with her.

Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:

quote:
Originally posted by Cryptic:
At my previous parish, another city church, Hayley Mills turned up before Evensong one Sunday night, she was in Sydney doing a play and dropped in for a look.
At last, a way in for me on this thread: I used to deliver milk to her door when helping our local milkman during school holidays

Swooooon. I had such a girl crush on her.

Posted by Jack the Lass (# 3415) on :

At my former London church the actress Mary Millar (RIP) who played Rose in 'Keeping Up Appearances' often attended. She was lovely.

Posted by Yerevan (# 10383) on :

Irish Olympic gold medalist Katie Taylor belongs to St. Mark's, the massive Dublin Pentecostal church I used to live opposite.

Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jack the Lass:
At my former London church the actress Mary Millar (RIP) who played Rose in 'Keeping Up Appearances' often attended. She was lovely.

She was probably there to flirt with the Vicar.
[Biased]

Posted by Percy B (# 17238) on :

quote:
Originally posted by daisymay:
Last Sunday we had Horseman's Sunday, and St John's has pictures of that and all sorts of happenings. But no picture of the Bishop of London who will be there this week (next Sunday) for confirmation for adults and youngsters.

Small tangent if I may, pleaase,

I have never heard is Horseman's Sunday.
What is it?

Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Percy B:
I have never heard is Horseman's Sunday.
What is it?

Google is your friend!

Posted by daisymay (# 1480) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Percy B:

quote:
Originally posted by daisymay:
Last Sunday we had Horseman's Sunday, and St John's has pictures of that and all sorts of happenings. But no picture of the Bishop of London who will be there this week (next Sunday) for confirmation for adults and youngsters.
Small tangent if I may, pleaase,

I have never heard is Horseman's Sunday.
What is it?

It comes every year, once a year, and we have the service outside the church, with food and all sorts of things, just before we have the service, hymns, Bible, prayer, and blessing of each one of the horses.
We always have the Leader of the Westminster in her special clothes and also many others, council ones, who also wear their formal clothes. We have a usual service inside before the outside one, and the front of the church service is reserved for the leaders.
We'll have the Bishop of London this Sunday, also as he dresses normally.

Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on :

quote:
Originally posted by churchgeek:
Back home I remember seeing a local celebrity in church, one of the news anchors in town.

We also have a local newsreader in our parish. He is semi-retired but very active at my parish: he is an adult acolyte and lector as well as attending meetings of the men's group. I think he is studying to be a deacon.

Posted by OhSimone (# 16414) on :

Not sure if an 80th birthday thanksgiving party/service counts? If so, notch two up for David and Carrie Grant (not that one), who I think go to a big church somewhere in Finchley normally.

Posted by Kaplan Corday (# 16119) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Kaplan Corday:
In 1992 William Carey turned up at the Baptist church of which I was then a member.

At least, that's whom he claimed to be, and he was dressed appropriately.

Perhaps I should have posted this on the recent Ghosts thread.

1992 incidentally was the bicentenary of the founding by Carey of the Baptist Missionary Society,seen by some as the origin of the modern Protestant missionary movement.

Posted by L'organist (# 17338) on :

We had a very starry wedding some years ago: the groom's mother was a famous theatrical Dame, his father a leading character actor. The bride's aunt is an older actress who, in her time, has been nominated for an academy award as Best Actress. One reading (Corinthians, I think) was given by the Earl of Downton, the other by a regular from Have I got news for you. Oh, and the ushers were all - ALL EIGHT OF THEM - people who'd been featured actors either in various episodes of Sharpe or in Four Weddings and a Funeral.
I have to say they all sang the hymns with gusto and the ushers even made sure all the hassocks were put back at the end of the service. [Smile]

Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on :

My church has been visited by Kathleen Ferrier a couple of times. No, not the English contralto singer, but the Dutch politician who has the same name (in fact, they are related).

In fact, I know the politician Ferrier also personally outside of church or politics, because we did some work together related to Latin America. She became quite famous two years ago when she was one of the two Christian-Democratic parliament members who were against forming a government with Wilders (good on her!)

Posted by Uriel (# 2248) on :

My church is next door to a county cricket ground, and from time to time we have had county and even international cricketers come to a service. Including links through our toddler group (which has had some of the wives of county players coming along with their kids), we could probably get over 200 international Test caps. If only we could persuade them to come along and play for the church cricket team...

The line up would include Marcus Trescothick, Sanath Jayasuriya, Zander de Bruyn, Graham Rose, Vic Marks, David Capel, John Barclay and Andrew Wingfield-Digby. I would play them against the local baptist church who once brought Peter Bowler (former Somerst captain) along to open against us in a friendly match.

Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Uriel:
My church is next door to a county cricket ground, and from time to time we have had county and even international cricketers come to a service. Including links through our toddler group (which has had some of the wives of county players coming along with their kids), we could probably get over 200 international Test caps. If only we could persuade them to come along and play for the church cricket team...

The line up would include Marcus Trescothick, Sanath Jayasuriya, Zander de Bruyn, Graham Rose, Vic Marks, David Capel, John Barclay and Andrew Wingfield-Digby. I would play them against the local baptist church who once brought Peter Bowler (former Somerst captain) along to open against us in a friendly match.

Did Rev. Andrew Wingfield-Digby preach? He's vicar of St.Andrew's, Oxford now.

Posted by Angloid (# 159) on :

My former parish numbered a well-known TV actor (female, now sadly deceased) and an as-yet-unknown but now powerful politician as regular worshippers.

And Jimmy Saville was a regular mass attender at Leeds RC Cathedral. [Disappointed]

Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :

Doesn't seem to have done him much good.

Posted by Angloid (# 159) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
Doesn't seem to have done him much good.

More a topic for Purgatory (in the theological as well as the Ship sense) I suppose. But religion isn't really about 'doing us good' but recognising the flawed mixed-up creatures that we are. God rest his soul.

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