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Originally posted by leo:
British clocks went back an hour to GMT this morning.

What did you do with the extra hour?

Did it effect your morning service?
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Time is actually an agent? Fancy.
 

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Posted by Adeodatus (# 4992) on :
 
God rot the testicles of the vile bureaucrat who thought it would be a good idea to assault my metabolism twice a year with a hammer-blow worse than any jet lag I've ever had; that wrecks my sleeping pattern for a week or more after; that has me blinking confusedly, wondering who turned out the lights; that had me, at 6pm this evening aching for nothing more than a bite of supper and my bed; and that has me yelling inside my head, Pick a sodding time and stick with it!!

But apart from that - yeah, the lie-in was quite nice.
 

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Posted by Oferyas (# 14031) on :
 
Clocks changed here in France as well, to make sure we remain out of step with Britain all the year round....

I let the dogs out at 6.45am in the new money, made tea, and went back to bed. All the dogs came in apart from one, a podenco with a strong hunting instinct.

She returned at breakfast time filthy dirty. She had enjoyed her extra hour by digging after some rodent in the back garden. In the process she had excavated an enormous hole, ripping a rare holly out of the ground (Ilex spinigera, for the gardeners here!) and dumping it, roots upwards, in the neighbouring land drain!

I spent the afternoon replanting the holly and digging soil out of the drain, while she caught up with her sleep on the sofa......
 

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Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on :
 
Well, it hasn't stopped me from waking up early, but I want to go to bed even earlier! I got on line at 5.00 a.m. which is more than sparrow fart. No doubt things will settle down in time for the spring forward.
 

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Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on :
 
We have moved into summer time here. Our clocks went forward a few weeks back... And one family came to church at the wrong time.
I like our long summer evenings now, but I can imagine it would be hard to get children to bed.
 

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Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :
 

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Northern Teritory neither. I hate clock-fiddling (I would use a stronger but alliterative verb but would have to ban myself) with a vengeance. It's an incentive to keep on living here.
 

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Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on :
 
At least we're back to proper GMT time now. And I don't like long light evenings - evenings should be dark!

Only one person turned up early to church, and in fact as she thought she was late she was in good time for once! Everyone else seemed to manage it, apart from those with children who were away for half term.
 

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Posted by Angloid (# 159) on :
 
Hate it! But it has some strange effects: I woke up this morning at 08.56 and thought it was only 07.56, but in fact it was 09.56 in last week's time. One would have thought I would have been up and raring to go at daybreak. (I usually am, in case people think I'm habitually sluggish.) I was aware of having slept in, but not to that extent.
 

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Posted by daisymay (# 1480) on :
 
I was just pleased by having an extra hour sleeping! I had thought I might have not slept all the time, but it felt great.
 

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Posted by Caissa (# 16710) on :
 
We don't change our clocks back until next weekend.
 

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Posted by claret10 (# 16341) on :
 
Well personally I ended up with almost 2hrs extra in bed.

My church is currently worship in the function room of a pub as we are having some building work done. This causes slightly extra work before the service as everything needed has to be transported from the church to the pub.

As the pub is conveniently directly opposite my house I usually pop over to help with the setting up. However when I look out of my bedroom window whilst still sat in bed, I noticed far more cars present than normal, so stayed there.

So I am guessing some of our congregation forgot about it, so kind of them

[ 29. October 2012, 14:16: Message edited by: claret10 ]
 

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Posted by Carex (# 9643) on :
 
Our time doesn't change until next week, either, but one of my clocks changed all by itself, so it was running an hour late. I tried changing the timezone switch on the back, and this morning it was two hours fast.
 

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Posted by Graven Image (# 8755) on :
 
Ours does not change until next week, but I already dread the cat being mad about her feeding schedule changing. She fails to understand her human staff messing with her clocks.
 

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Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 
I find it all a bit jet lag-ish. I always get up when I wake up (can't lie in once eyes are open) so the morning extra hour was spent busy busy as usual. Then by bed time I am exhausted because it's an hour later than it should be.

I don't understand why we need the 'extra' light in the morning when It's be much better leaving it to the evening.

Double summer time - bring it on!
 

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Posted by Og, King of Bashan (# 9562) on :
 
We go next weekend, but on behalf of morning dog walkers and their dogs everywhere, it should have been two weeks ago. When it is dark until 7:00, you really have to rush in the morning.
 

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Posted by Nenuphar (# 16057) on :
 
Our furry boys are up with the dawn regardless, but their dimwitted owner, for the first time ever, completely forgot about the clocks going back. So not only was there much puzzled consulting of TV schedules to try to work out why football (which she doesn't like) was on, instead of the anticipated Andrew Marr (which she does), but to make matters worse, she completely forgot about the prized extra hour in bed!

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Posted by Nenuphar (# 16057) on :
 
Oh dear! Oh dear! Oh dear! (That's one for each post).
"They" told me flood control had prevented me from posting, and to wait at least 120 seconds before trying again. So, ever obedient, I did...and did...and did. Sorry to clutter up the thread. - perhaps a kind Admin could remove the surplus posts?
 

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Posted by Keren-Happuch (# 9818) on :
 
Nobody with small children enjoyed the extra hour, I'm sure of that! They'll be tired and grumpy for the rest of the week on past form.
 

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Posted by Curious (# 93) on :
 
I was so anxious that my digital clock wouldn't reset itself and the alarm would be at the wrong time, that I woke at 4.30am, not knowing if it was new or old time. It meant I was in plenty of time for the 8am service
 

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Originally posted by Boogie:
I don't understand why we need the 'extra' light in the morning when It's be much better leaving it to the evening.
Double summer time - bring it on!

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Originally posted by Boogie:
I don't understand why we need the 'extra' light in the morning when It's be much better leaving it to the evening.
Double summer time - bring it on!

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I never got the point of making the evenings darker till this year. I have to leave the house by 7:30 to catch my bus and apparently being further west than i used to be (Ireland instead of Wales) means it's been pitchy black (and cold!) when I leave the house since the beginning of October. At the end of last week it was almost dark coming home too (half past six ish), so I'm looking forward to at least a few more light mornings before the darkness descends for good.

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Originally posted by Boogie:
I don't understand why we need the 'extra' light in the morning when It's be much better leaving it to the evening.
Double summer time - bring it on!

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I never got the point of making the evenings darker till this year. I have to leave the house by 7:30 to catch my bus and apparently being further west than i used to be (Ireland instead of Wales) means it's been pitchy black (and cold!) when I leave the house since the beginning of October. At the end of last week it was almost dark coming home too (half past six ish), so I'm looking forward to at least a few more light mornings before the darkness descends for good.

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Two months ago, when school was starting, I was waking up with the sunrise for the aforementioned dog walk. I encountered lots of parents taking their kids to the school bus stop. My dog walk has started later and later each morning as the sunrise gets pushed later and later. The bus stop time hasn't shifted. So these kids are waiting for the bus at dawn. I like sun at the end of the day. But when the sun isn't up at 7:00 (at my lower longitude to boot), it gets a little ridiculous.

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Originally posted by leo:
What did you do with the extra hour?

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Did it effect your morning service?

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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
When I lived in the eastern U.S. I could never figure out the point of Daylight Savings Time, so I was quite pleased to get away from it.

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There is no point Except maybe another excuse for bullies to Show Who Is Boss. A rule that exists in order that those who disobey it may be punished. All this meanignless bollocks about extra hours of daylight is meaningless bollocks. There are the same number of hours in the day. All you are doiung is getting up an hour early. So bloody well get up an hour early if you want to. Why force the rest of us to?

There is no real way to write down quite how angrgy the whole thing makes me.

Its lovely when we go back, as we just did. But the good feeling wears off so soon. Already this threaad is making me dread the reversion to summer time next year. Why oh why oh why do we let them get away with it?

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Originally posted by Boogie:

Double summer time - bring it on!

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Why should I be forced to get up tweo hours earlier just because the government likes to give orders? One hour is bad enough. It takes me weeks to recover from putting the clocks onto Buggertheworldtillitbleeds Shite Time in the spring. Doing it twice might drive me mad.

And unfortunately when we go back to God's Magnificent Time in autumn I get one day of the pleasant afterglow of the extra hour, but by Monday its just normal again.
 

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Posted by Pine Marten (# 11068) on :
 
Well said, ken.
 

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Posted by Moo (# 107) on :
 

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And unfortunately when we go back to God's Magnificent Time in autumn...

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Originally posted by Angloid:
If we had BST the whole year round ken would have got used to getting up early...

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You'd think, but it doesn;t work like that. To get enough sleep I need to get up later than I did yesterday It never really adjusts backwards. But putting hte cloks wrong in the spring does make it noticeably worse for a few weeks.

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and there would still be a bit of daylight at teatime.

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But there is the same amount of daylight! Its the clocks that have changed, not the earth's orbit! If you want more daylight after tea just have your tea an hour earlier!

 

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Posted by Angloid (# 159) on :
 

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and there would still be a bit of daylight at teatime.

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But there is the same amount of daylight! Its the clocks that have changed, not the earth's orbit! If you want more daylight after tea just have your tea an hour earlier!

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I get your point. But we don't go by nature's time, rather clock time. Being retired, I could have tea (or not) whenever I liked, but people who go to work have to finish when the clock says, not when the sun does. And most of our other routines are set by clock time not sun time.
 

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Posted by leo (# 1458) on :
 
When i was working, the clocks going back annoyed me because we got the 'extra hour' before half term. It would be more beneficial before a working day.

When the clocks 'go forward' it often happens on Easter Sunday. As we now do our Easter Vigil early morning rather than late Saturday, that's really exhausting.
 

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Posted by Moo (# 107) on :
 
AIUI in the US we now reset our clocks the first Sunday in March, which means that it's never Easter Sunday.

In the past we changed in April, and sometimes it was Easter.

Moo
 

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Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 

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Originally posted by Angloid:
It's the changing of the clocks that's the problem, especially for those of us lacking whatever the time equivalent of spacial awareness is.

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That's really well put. I still haven't recovered from the 'fall back'. It feels like jet lag. Exhausted at bed time and waking too early.


 

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Posted by RuthW (# 13) on :
 

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Originally posted by Angloid:
But we don't go by nature's time, rather clock time. Being retired, I could have tea (or not) whenever I liked, but people who go to work have to finish when the clock says, not when the sun does. And most of our other routines are set by clock time not sun time.

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It's the changing of the clocks that's the problem, especially for those of us lacking whatever the time equivalent of spacial awareness is.

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That's really well put. I still haven't recovered from the 'fall back'. It feels like jet lag. Exhausted at bed time and waking too early.

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Originally posted by Moo:
In the past we changed in April, and sometimes it was Easter.

Moo

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IIRC, that usually happened on the Easters I was scheduled to play for Sunrise Service.
 

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Posted by BessHiggs (# 15176) on :
 
Well I'm of two minds about the whole time changing thing. When we lost the hour earlier this year, I had to shut down the bar an hour earlier and that cost me $$$ . The upside is that this weekend, I can stay open an extra hour, but my body is still going to think I'm closing at 4am, regardless of what a darn-fool clock says. So Horray extra hour of sales, Boo having to stay up even later than I normally do Sat night/Sunday morning.

I vote we just leave the stupid clocks alone and get on with things.
 

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Posted by Angloid (# 159) on :
 
Why not just run the bar according to the time on the previous day?

I always wonder what happens to overnight trains when the clocks go back. Do they slink into a siding somewhere and go to sleep for an hour so that they arrive at the 'correct' time? When they go forward of course they are just an hour late which is probably as expected.
 

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Posted by tessaB (# 8533) on :
 
I really enjoyed the extra hour as it gave me time to panic about having all our things packed for our trip to San Francisco. I could have a whole nights sleep and still mooch about being ineffectual for another hour. However, flying from SF to Sydney on Wednesday I found some complete rotter had stolen my Thursday! So although I gained an hour I lost a day. Mutter, mutter, don't understand how it happened. Must have put it somewhere. Never can find these pesky Thursdays.
 

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However, flying from SF to Sydney on Wednesday I found some complete rotter had stolen my Thursday! So although I gained an hour I lost a day. Mutter, mutter, don't understand how it happened. Must have put it somewhere. Never can find these pesky Thursdays.

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And we wouldn't have quite so many gloomy evenings.

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Originally posted by Firenze:
At least the computers sort themselves.

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Originally posted by BessHiggs:
I vote we just leave the stupid clocks alone and get on with things.

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BessHiggs for Congress!!! WooHoo! Yes!

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Often they do. Quite often. Almost always.

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I do remember that time on January 1, 2000. IIRC, my computer told me the year was 201999 for a few hours. But I believe the time was correct.
 

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Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on :
 

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I vote we just leave the stupid clocks alone and get on with things.

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And we wouldn't have quite so many gloomy evenings.

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I still can't get myself into a position where I can imagine what mental state I would have to be under to believe something like this! It just doesn't make sense. The number of evenings is the same! And the amout of gloom is the same! The time on you clock changes neither.

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There is a reason why all software I write works in GMT. Its called bitter experience.

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If only the Ship's clock were left alone too!
Since most Shipmates aren't in the US (where the forum server is) and not even the whole US changes its clocks, why choose a setting which changes the clock twice a year at some locally convenient date, while inconveniencing nearly everyone else?

I agree with your earlier post - I find the messing about with clocks in this country a bit pointless. The argument nationally used to be made for Northern or Scottish farmers who said their cows needed milking according to daylight - and concluded we should all be messed about! Same for Northern school children to stop them having to go to school in the dark.
 

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Posted by Graven Image (# 8755) on :
 
I have decided I would like to have an extra hour in the morning so I am going to continue getting up at the old time, and so I will not have to adjust my body to new time, and I will gain an hour morning time. Good luck on figuring out my post, but it works for me.
 

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Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on :
 

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There is a reason why all software I write works in GMT. Its called bitter experience.

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If only the Ship's clock were left alone too!
Since most Shipmates aren't in the US (where the forum server is) and not even the whole US changes its clocks, why choose a setting which changes the clock twice a year at some locally convenient date, while inconveniencing nearly everyone else?

I agree with your earlier post - I find the messing about with clocks in this country a bit pointless. The argument nationally used to be made for Northern or Scottish farmers who said their cows needed milking according to daylight - and concluded we should all be messed about! Same for Northern school children to stop them having to go to school in the dark.

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.... when we kept BST through a couple of winters around 1970 there appeared to be a reduction in road casualties, because more journeys take place in the late afternoon than in the morning. The Institute of Advanced Motoring called for the clocks to be left at BST only last month.

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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
.... when we kept BST through a couple of winters around 1970 there appeared to be a reduction in road casualties, because more journeys take place in the late afternoon than in the morning. The Institute of Advanced Motoring called for the clocks to be left at BST only last month.

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I've never believed that one. Being in the dark in the morning when people are only half awake and the roads are more likely to have frost on them strikes me as far more dangerous.

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I think all those that advocate changing anything this choose which result they personally prefer, and then select the arguments that fit what they want.

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I spent some time recently trying to explain to someone that the option of keeping BST all the year round is no longer available without leaving the EU.

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It's either the present clock or BST in winter and two hour out in summer - which would mean darkness until 8.30am in October and in some part of the country, the sun setting after midnight. They didn't believe me.

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