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Posted by Chapelhead (# 21) on :

A comment elsewhere about the new ABC has put me in mind of Bishops who look Bishopy. Obviously this is matter of personal taste; like many others, I probably prefer the 'Old Testament prophet' look in bishops. So I wondered which Bishops, past or present, people think most look like Bishops (or sound like Bishops, or do the lambada like Bishops etc).

In another thread Aumbry suggests that Richard Chartres, Bishop of London has the right look. I'm inclined to agree, although at times he can seem a bit Doctor Who baddy (but perhaps that's not a bad thing). He certainly sounds like a Bishop.

Of a different style, Pope John Paul II looks like a rather kindly Bishop, with something of the 'country parson' about him.

Also in a very different style, I think Katharine Jefferts Schori, Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church USA generally looks Bishopy. Unfortunately she sometimes finds herself in some pretty dreadful vestments, but mostly I think she looks the part.

How about you? Which Bishops look, sound, anathematise and kiss babies most in a way befitting a Bishop?

Posted by Moo (# 107) on :

I like the way my bishop looks.

Moo

Posted by Amos (# 44) on :

Gosh. Bishops who look, sound, and anathematise like bishops ought to. In my lifetime. Here are a few, some of whom I've known:
Michael Ramsey & Rowan Williams--Super holy and hairy and loveable variant.
Hugh Montefiore and Peter Selby---Aristocratic Liberal Jewish variant (bearded & cleanshaven)
Ian Ramsey and Desmond Tutu---'Very Good Thing in small package' variant.
Barbara Harris, Victoria Matthews, Mary Glasspool, and Geralyn Wolf--Female Variant.
Peter Walker and John Habgood--Scholarly variant.
Stephen Conway--Giant size variant.

Pope John XXIII--Roman Variant. [Biased]

[ 09. November 2012, 12:01: Message edited by: Amos ]

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

Or this member of the sub-set Strangler Bishop.

Posted by LeRoc (# 3216) on :

I look like Jesus. Can I be a Bishop?

Posted by Sandemaniac (# 12829) on :

How about the Baby-eating Bishop of Bath and Wells?

AG

Posted by Lord Jestocost (# 12909) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
Or this member of the sub-set Strangler Bishop.

Is the cherub behind him signing for the hard of hearing? Or just saying "I dunno either"?

Posted by Chapelhead (# 21) on :

Excellent list, Amos. Barbara Harris in particular looks like someone who could do both 'friendly Bishop' and 'fierce Bishop', and John Habgood did a very good 'clever, but perhaps not quite in touch with reality' look.

Could Pope John XXIII have been related to the Godfather?

Posted by The Intrepid Mrs S (# 17002) on :

Bishop Leslie Lloyd Rees, who confirmed Master and Mss S, looks like a carved saint from the facade of a cathedral (and was very charming).

Mrs. S, looking back fondly

Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :

Unfortunately (or fortunately) my diocesan Bishop still doesn't appear bishopy even when in cope and pointy hat.

Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on :

My bishop doesn't look as dressed up as y'all's bishops.

To tell you the truth, I didn't even know who the new bish was. Thanks for giving me a reason to look him up!

Posted by deusluxmea (# 15765) on :

This guy looks bishopy enough, methinks

Posted by piglet (# 11803) on :

quote:
Originally posted by jedijudy:
My bishop doesn't look as dressed up as y'all's bishops ...

What football team is he supporting in that scarf? [Devil]

Some people are definitely more episcopal than others; our bishop, while a very good man, never strikes me as being entirely comfortable in the mitre.

Posted by Chapelhead (# 21) on :

quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
Some people are definitely more episcopal than others; our bishop, while a very good man, never strikes me as being entirely comfortable in the mitre.

Perhaps that would explain this. Of that group the most Bishopy looking is the one on the right, which might explain why he got the top job and the stonking gold light-sabre.

Not being comfortably in a mitre seems a common problem. I hope and trust that he is a thoroughly splendid Bishop, but my first thought on seeing photographs of this Bishop was that someone should get him to wear the mitre further forward - it's supposed to represent the tongues of fire descending at Pentecost, symbolic of his Apostolic authority - it's not a beany.

[ 10. November 2012, 06:34: Message edited by: Chapelhead ]

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Chapelhead:
Not being comfortably in a mitre seems a common problem.

They get used to it. Here's an Archbishop for you, who I think completely looks the part.

Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :

Once again, the Ship of Fools front page editors have made me smile. There are a few other bishops on the born twice list as well.

Meanwhile, the Mitre is often a huge clue as to the Bishopliness of Bishops. But here are three Creamtealand Bishops looking like you don't normally see them (click each pic. to enlarge) - could you spot your bishop on holiday?

Posted by Trisagion (# 5235) on :

My former bishop looking fairly bishopy and my new Bishop looking pretty happy.

Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
Meanwhile, the Mitre is often a huge clue as to the Bishopliness of Bishops. But here are three Creamtealand Bishops looking like you don't normally see them

They still look bishopy in a sombrero. Add a poncho and things might be different.

Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on :

quote:
Originally posted by piglet:

quote:
Originally posted by jedijudy:
My bishop doesn't look as dressed up as y'all's bishops ...
What football team is he supporting in that scarf?

One would hope Florida. [Biased]

Posted by Jolly Jape (# 3296) on :

Bishop Michael looks the real deal, Chorister. He'd pass as a Bishop in any Identity Parade!

Posted by Jolly Jape (# 3296) on :

I always think our Bishop looks the part, and a wonderful man he is,too! Possibly not the best picture of him, though.

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

There's also small terrifying crozier-chewing bishop.

Posted by venbede (# 16669) on :

When the Royal Opera revived Pfitzner's Palestrina in 2001, the role of Cardinal Borromeo was sung by John Tomlinson. It looked as though Richard Chartres was moonlighting

Posted by Ariel (# 58) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
There's also small terrifying crozier-chewing bishop.

Ah, right. While we're on the subject of terrifying bishops:

Intimidating Bishop

Same again

Posted by Chapelhead (# 21) on :

Looking through a gallery of Archbishops of Canterbury, I can't help thinking that '1660 - William Juxon' has a certain 'something'. But perhaps I'm just being reminded of Dick Dastardly.

Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:

quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
There's also small terrifying crozier-chewing bishop.
Ah, right. While we're on the subject of terrifying bishops:

Intimidating Bishop

Same again

Another

Posted by Horseman Bree (# 5290) on :

I'm just rather sad that I will no longer look like the AoC (not that I ever had the eyebrows for it!).

Posted by Metapelagius (# 9453) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:

quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:

quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
There's also small terrifying crozier-chewing bishop.
Ah, right. While we're on the subject of terrifying bishops:

Intimidating Bishop

Same again
Another

Intimidating? Really? Hardly, at least when compared with our friend here.

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

Not forgetting the Bishop of No Fixed Abode.

Posted by Enoch (# 14322) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Chapelhead:
Looking through a gallery of Archbishops of Canterbury, I can't help thinking that '1660 - William Juxon' has a certain 'something'. But perhaps I'm just being reminded of Dick Dastardly.

Gilbert Sheldon 1663 looks like a Restoration rake. One would like to think 'surely not' but according to Wikipaedia

quote:
Sheldon is mentioned in Pepys Diary who relates a story from his "Cozen Roger" that"...the Archbishop of Canterbury that now is, do keep a wench, and that he is a very wencher as can be and tells us that is publicly known that Sir Charles Sidley had got away one of the Archbishop's wenches from him..."

As for Cardinal Pole, he looks like 'nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition'.

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

You wouldn't want to meet Matthew Parker in an alleyway on a dark night either.

Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on :

Long tradition of bishops keeping prostitutes - the Bishop of Winchester's palace in Southwark had a graveyard for prostitutes, the Winchester geese

Posted by Qoheleth. (# 9265) on :

My bishop says "Hiyeeee!"

Getting down wiv da yoof

Caption Competition

Before he started bishopping

Posted by Sandemaniac (# 12829) on :

Simon Sudbury was no cutie either, even before he got his head chopped off.

On the other hand Mellitus must have been a sweetie, whilst Tatwine sounds like something you get in Eccles...

AG

[ 10. November 2012, 20:56: Message edited by: Sandemaniac ]

Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :

My Bishop (with "friend").

Posted by Enoch (# 14322) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Qoheleth.:
My bishop says "Hiyeeee!"

Do you think he might have been frightened in some dark alleyway by a Presiding Bishop?

[Slight neatening of code.]

[ 10. November 2012, 23:57: Message edited by: jedijudy ]

Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on :

Not sure exactly what to say about whether our Archbishop looks priestly, let alone 'bishopy', so I'll let the picture do the telling!

Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :

personally I simply cannot accept the new AB of C, because he does not wear purple tonsure shirts (well not in the pics I've seen).

Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Emendator Liturgia:
picture

I'm sure that guy was trying to sell me a used Ford the other day

Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on :

OTOH I've always liked this dude, if only because I've had to pronounce his name on radio (oh, and in an interview every time he said "fact" his accent turned it into "fucked" [Hot and Hormonal]

).

Whether though he looks suited (hahah) to the job I am unsure. Statistically his is probably a more typical visage than most now eligible to parade the halls of Lambeth.

Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:

quote:
Originally posted by Emendator Liturgia:
picture
I'm sure that guy was trying to sell me a used Ford the other day

I don't buy much that fellow says, [Big Grin]

and wouldn't buy a used car. Probably driven by a little old lady... Do women drive?

Posted by Arrietty (# 45) on :

There were lots of comments about Justin Duckworth's appearance when he was appointed Bishop of Wellington, but he still manages to look pretty bishoppy with all his Bishop's gear on.

Posted by venbede (# 16669) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Enoch:
Gilbert Sheldon 1663 looks like a Restoration rake.

Not however in his monument in Croydon Minster.

[Extraneous code removed. - Ariel.]

[ 11. November 2012, 10:24: Message edited by: Ariel ]

Posted by daisymay (# 1480) on :

Here's Bishop Chartres of London and a picture in that of him - Richard does usually dress that way.

Posted by Chapelhead (# 21) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Arrietty:
There were lots of comments about Justin Duckworth's appearance when he was appointed Bishop of Wellington, but he still manages to look pretty bishoppy with all his Bishop's gear on.

Gosh, a Bishop whose mitre doesn't need fanons, because he provides his own!

Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :

I see you all and raise Dr. Sheepshanks..

Bishop of Norwich and noted Arctic explorer, if you can imagine such a thing.

Here he is in gaiters, for extra fun.

Posted by Pia (# 17277) on :

Not sure how bishoppy these shades are?

Posted by Amos (# 44) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Enoch:

quote:
Originally posted by Qoheleth.:
My bishop says "Hiyeeee!"
Do you think he might have been frightened in some dark alleyway by a Presiding Bishop?

[Slight neatening of code.]

Actually, that bishop seems to be saying 'Derp!'

Posted by Thurible (# 3206) on :

I always thought that Bishop Andrew looked convincingly bishoppy.

Bishop O'Rorke pulled it off too.

Thurible

Posted by HCH (# 14313) on :

I guess I usually think of bishops of the classis Staunton design: a bit taller than a pawn with a slanted cut across the top.

Posted by Chapelhead (# 21) on :

I can't resist putting in a link to my favourite Bishop (at least as far as 'tat' goes), the late Cardinal Josef Slipyj.

Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on :

How about you choose one of these eleven likely candidates, the ones who have two x chromosomes? [Big Grin]

Posted by Albertus (# 13356) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Chapelhead:
I can't resist putting in a link to my favourite Bishop (at least as far as 'tat' goes), the late Cardinal Josef Slipyj.

Ming the Merciless, isn't it?

[ 12. November 2012, 16:32: Message edited by: Albertus ]

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
How about you choose one of these eleven likely candidates, the ones who have two x chromosomes?

I've always been a fan of the roomy, ankle-length numbers - can I join? (Though I'd prefer a bit more colour choice and a lot more décolletage if that's all right).

Posted by Angloid (# 159) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
personally I simply cannot accept the new AB of C, because he does not wear purple tonsure shirts (well not in the pics I've seen).

Nor does the present one.

Posted by Tubifex Maximus (# 4874) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Albertus:

quote:
Originally posted by Chapelhead:
I can't resist putting in a link to my favourite Bishop (at least as far as 'tat' goes), the late Cardinal Josef Slipyj.
Ming the Merciless, isn't it?

If it's merciless you're looking for. There's a proper bishop, a man who'd stand up for the church, and speak out on moral values. Not one of your wishy washy modern types.

Posted by Pre-cambrian (# 2055) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Tubifex Maximus:
If it's merciless you're looking for. There's a proper bishop, a man who'd stand up for the church, and speak out on moral values.

As long as the moral value wasn't the one about popes not having children.

Posted by Pre-cambrian (# 2055) on :

quote:
Originally posted by venbede:

quote:
Originally posted by Enoch:
Gilbert Sheldon 1663 looks like a Restoration rake.
Not however in his monument in Croydon Minster.

No, his pose seems modelled more on a Roman banquet.

Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :

This is a bishop.

When it comes to Bugarian Orthodoxy they have some serious tat. It's more bling than tat really.

Nessebar, on the Black Sea coast, has a tat museum in one of the churches, and a room of icons in the main museum. Worth a visit.

Posted by Albertus (# 13356) on :

Goodness. I'm sure one of my mother's friends had kitchen curtains in that pattern.

Posted by Firenze (# 619) on :

You want something like this. Restrained, elegant yet sinister.

Posted by Tubifex Maximus (# 4874) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Pre-cambrian:

quote:
Originally posted by Tubifex Maximus:
If it's merciless you're looking for. There's a proper bishop, a man who'd stand up for the church, and speak out on moral values.
As long as the moral value wasn't the one about popes not having children.

Or bribery, or disappearing people, or laying waste to half of Italy in various acts of warfare...

Posted by Chapelhead (# 21) on :

Perhaps we could lighten the mood slightly.

Posted by balaam (# 4543) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Chapelhead:
Perhaps we could lighten the mood slightly.

Lighten the mood? Those are red lightsabers. As sure sign they've gone over to the dark side.

Posted by PD (# 12436) on :

Oh, if you want a pic of me looking suitably bewildered try http://www.unitedepiscopalchurch.org

PD

Posted by Angloid (# 159) on :

quote:
Originally posted by PD:
Oh, if you want a pic of me looking suitably bewildered try http://www.unitedepiscopalchurch.org

PD

Father Dougall's wise uncle?

Posted by fletcher christian (# 13919) on :

How about this one:
Bishop Harold Miller

....and.....

Colonel Sanders

Bargain bucket anyone? It's only one step away from eating out of a trough.

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