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Chorister
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I read some interesting research arguing that in the West we have placed so much emphasis on self-esteem, believing we can achieve whatever we set out to do, thinking we are wonderful, that it has gone too far - there are now an excessive number of people displaying Narcissistic tendencies. This is a negative trait, resulting in failed relationships, etc.
I can't imagine that many shipmates fall into this category, but it is still fun to take the test.
(And the longer article is here for those who are interested. But it is not necessary to read the article just to take the test.)
Any thoughts? How did you score?
[ 13. February 2013, 04:29: Message buggered about with by: Ariston ]
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Lyda*Rose
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Score of 4.
If you want me, just knock on the woodwork.
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I'm too modest to tell you... ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Chorister
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Score - very low, almost non-existent. Soon I will vanish completel....
Did anyone else wish there was a 'neither' or 'inbetween' button for some of the questions, or was that just me?
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Welease Woderwick
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My score was very low [1] as well. I was struck by how I might have answered differently at different ages/stages in my life. I'm 63, I've been retired for 15 years and I have nothing to prove to anybody, nor any interest in doing so - I sure as Hell ain't extraordinary unless you count being lucky enough to retire when I did.
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Sioni Sais
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12. Very surprised.
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Imaginary Friend
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I find that for many of the questions both answers are true. (Yes, I like to look at my own body AND it's absolutely nothing special!) So I got frustrated and didn't complete the test. I guess that makes me an uber-narcissist!
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jacobsen
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3. But I think that the questionaire ignores the potential extraordinariness of ordinary people.
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leo
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15 - merely 'average'.
One gripe - the test seems to suggest that anyone who seeks 'authority' or 'power' is narcissistic. Surely it depends what you seek power for - like power to make the world a better place, which is why most politicians seek to get elected (not that they don't get corrupted later.
Those of us who are/have been teachers and/or in management set great store on 'authority' - we couldn't do our jobs properly without it.
However, the article linked to in the OP mitigates some possible criticisms: quote:
"You need to believe that you can go out and do something but that's not the same as thinking that you're great,"
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Firenze
Ordinary decent pagan
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I am incredibly shy, retiring and unassertive. But then you knew that anyway.
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mousethief
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I scored 11 but I had wide score scatter; very puffed up about myself as a leader, completely unvain (0.0) about my appearance (as anybody who has seen me can understand). Frankly I didn't understand why the appearance questions were on the quiz at all.
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Starbug
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quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
Did anyone else wish there was a 'neither' or 'inbetween' button for some of the questions, or was that just me?
I also wanted to answer 'sometimes' or 'neither' for some of the questions. I scored 7.
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Banner Lady
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BL = 2. Obviously more wall than mirror. Possibly I should try to love the God-made fabulousness that is me more than I do - but I'm quite happy to leave that to others, or not; whatever.
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Piglet
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quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
Did anyone else wish there was a 'neither' or 'inbetween' button for some of the questions, or was that just me?
Not just you - me too. I scored 4; I don't see myself as a leader in any way, shape or form, but if I'm the centre of attention for a good reason (maybe making a decent job of singing a solo) I quite enjoy it.
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Ariston
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quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
Did anyone else wish there was a 'neither' or 'inbetween' button for some of the questions, or was that just me?
It's all about you, isn't it? We're all here just to cater to your whims. We see how it is.
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An die Freude
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14.
A couple of times I found myself on the fence, even on things that would fairly obviously have put me higher on the narcissism scale.
0 on vanity, but particularly high on superiority. I think this is due to cultivating an idea of exceptionalism in myself in order to boost my self-confidence in trying to reach for the somewhat ambitious things I want to achieve in life, and also in placing my difficult past in a narrative of success. I do suppose that my focus on success is something I should work on though. (Any advice?) That and being overly competitive are major weaknesses of mine, I fear.
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lilBuddha
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quote:
Originally posted by Chorister:
Did anyone else wish there was a 'neither' or 'inbetween' button for some of the questions, or was that just me?
Not some, damn near all. Hate binary questions because
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Originally posted by Imaginary Friend:
I find that for many of the questions both answers are true. <snip> So I got frustrated and didn't complete the test.
And yes, Ariston, it is all about me. Or it should be. Well, perhaps not all, but surely some?
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Chorister
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I wonder how many former grammar school pupils answered that they believe they are exceptional in some way. Rightly or wrongly, we were certainly made to believe that at school in those days.
This book I'm reading at the moment is interesting in relation to the questionnaire.
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jedijudy
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My score was 10. Yes, I wanted a 'neither' possibility, too.
Silly me! ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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North East Quine
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A surprisingly low 6. Like others, I would have preferred a "neither" or "sometimes" or "occasionally" option.
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Sioni Sais
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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
A surprisingly low 6. Like others, I would have preferred a "neither" or "sometimes" or "occasionally" option.
And that of course indicates why you got a lower than average score. Leaders may often be wrong, but fencesitting isn't a leadership charactership.
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Porridge
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I scored 2, but am a bit alarmed that both points land in the "willingness to exploit others" column.
Is there a cure?
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roybart
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Posted by North East Quine:
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A surprisingly low 6. Like others, I would have preferred a "neither" or "sometimes" or "occasionally" option.
Same score; and, I suspect, for the same reason.
As I took the test, i found myself disliking (strongly) the obviously narcissistic choices but hesitant to commit the alternatives, especially when they seemed unduly wimpish.
I've been wondering whether the low score is possibly a function of age. Does one grow less narcissistic (or more realistic) as one grows older?
Or could it come from growing up in a time when there was much less emphasis on everyone "being special" than there is today, and when high self-esteem was not idealized as much as it now appears to be?
Or could it come from having been an only child?
Or from a predisposition to ambivalence in general?
Or ... what?
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Ariston
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As always, experimental design and questionnaire wording has a lot to do with answers. Would I like to live/have lived a really interesting life and have done Great things? Sure! It's hard sometimes not to want to be a crusader for justice, to want to right all the wrongs of the world (or even just one or two of them), to do something worth being remembered for. I guess it's almost natural to want to change the world for the better, and, well, radically. Not that I ever actually will; nobody who scores a 2 on that silly thing is likely to be much more than a wallflower, no?
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orfeo
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Well, I got a lowish score, but the pairing of the answers was usually so incredibly obvious I'm not convinced of the value of that test.
Highest score, easily, was for Superiority. Well, duh. Because I'm not going to lie, people have been telling me I'm exceptionally intelligent since the age of 4. In all seriousness, is it narcissistic to eventually accept that this is what people see in me?
That doesn't mean I see myself as superior in every respect, but I think there'd be something ELSE wrong with me if I kept trying to say "oh no, I'm not oustanding in any way" when people have been telling me regularly for decades that they think I am oustanding in a particular way.
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Lucia
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A score of 2. Nothing special then...
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Traveller
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It's very obvious in every case which answer will score you a narcissistic "point", but there were several where I would want some context before clicking one or the other.
I've tried it twice, being pompous and modest, getting scores of 8 and 1.
That's rather a large range ![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
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Tree Bee
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I scored 3, all in self sufficiency . Seems reasonable.
Was brought up with little praise and a horror of showing off.
I went to a grammar school where we were told we were the worst class they'd ever had there.
My Mum said her class was told that 20 years earlier.
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churchgeek
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I scored a 5 and felt guilty each "point" I got. The trouble is, though, you can tell which answer is the "narcissistic" one in each question. Of course, the point is that it's natural and healthy to have a certain number of those traits, just not too many. I tend to suffer from depression, and low self-esteem. Duh.
Here was my breakdown.
Narcissistic Trait
Authority: 1.00
Self-Sufficiency: 0.00
Superiority: 1.00
Exhibitionism: 1.00
Exploitativeness: 1.00
Vanity: 1.00
Entitlement: 0.00
Ironic, since I actually am rather self-sufficient! And I don't like being in authority at all.
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Sir Kevin
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Narcissistic Trait Strength of Trait
Authority: 3.00
Self-Sufficiency: 0.00
Superiority: 4.00
Exhibitionism: 3.00
Exploitativeness: 2.00
Vanity: 1.00
Entitlement: 0.00
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Chorister
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However, remember I'm also a teacher and my score was only 2. It depends whether the traits you describe become part of your overall character, or whether you stay detached from them, just putting on an act when you are actually teaching. (Or have developed a more collaborative method of teaching where authority and exhibitionism is not so prevalent.)
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Light User
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My score was 2. I'm not sure that lurkers make great narcissists.
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Robert Armin
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I scored 1. Given that this is a Christian website, that shows I am amazingly humble, and therefore far more spiritual than the rest of you (apart from WW). Do I embarrass anyone with my humility?
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Spike
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I got 4 which surprised me a little as I am quite extrovert and outgoing.
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15! Bit concerned now...
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RooK
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20.
Seemed low.
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Kelly Alves
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I surprised myself; I got 16. Scored highest in leadership (!), lowest (meaning-nil) in exhibitionism.
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lilBuddha
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I took the test twice. I answered it honestly both times. I scored a 32 and a 4.
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Kelly Alves
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That's because you are a complex person who defies categorization. ![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
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lilBuddha
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Amazing! Those are exactly the words of one of my voices. The others are still debating....
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pjl
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Answered the way I would have done a few years ago in my engineering capacity. Always got a buzz when the call came in that some customers manufacturing plant had broken down and losing 'a million pounds an hour' which was fairly common over the years.
No dithering about, solve the prob and hope you have trained your team to cope.
I scored 24 and 0 for vanity
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Robert Armin
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I just took the quiz again, because last time I cancelled the page without realising there wasn't anything to look at except the simple score. I thought I gave exactly the same answers as before, but this time I score 0. Should I be worried?
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marzipan
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As other folks have said,the problem with some of the questions is you want to answer 'both' or 'neither' or 'somewhere in between'.
I took it a couple of times - once for 'when I've first met people and I'm shy' side of me and once for 'Look at me' attention seeking side of me.
Shy side scored 1. Attention seeker scored 16.
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