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Posted by Enoch (# 14322) on :
 
Who would you vote for? - seriously rather than spoof-fully? And why?

A person without a sense of humor is like a wagon without springs. It's jolted by every pebble on the road.
- Henry Ward Beecher

[ 13. February 2013, 19:22: Message edited by: Doublethink ]
 

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Posted by Chorister (# 473) on :
 
Awww, spoof-fully would be far more fun on H&A Day.

Why not go the whole hog and have a woman?
I'll put in a wildcard for Ann Widdecombe, who was sounding off on radio today (billed as a 'recent convert'), about who should be next ****. Why on earth would they listen to her anyway, unless....

I wish I had put a bet on, but thought it might have been disrespectful to the Holy Spirit. - Ann Widdecombe (not commenting on the p***)

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Posted by tclune (# 7959) on :
 
Isn't it about time for the Anti-Christ to get the post?

--Tom Clune

The real Antichrist is he who turns the wine of an original idea into the water of mediocrity.
- Eric Hoffer

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Posted by Soror Magna (# 9881) on :
 
Somebody with better media skills than BXVI.

I like to write when I feel spiteful. It is like having a good sneeze.
- David Herbert Lawrence

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Posted by Soror Magna (# 9881) on :
 
My punishment is deserved. However, there is no such thing as bad publicity.
 

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Posted by Sober Preacher's Kid (# 12699) on :
 
I can say Protestant by I can't say C*******? WTF? And I can say Minister but not ****** or ******?!?

Anyway, I'm rooting for C******* Marc Ouellet, the former Arch****** of Quebec and Primate of Canada mostly because he's a Canadian.

But he who goes in a papabile comes out a c*******, so there goes that idea.

What can I say, I'm an alcoholic. It's what I do.

Ron Wood

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Posted by Robert Armin (# 182) on :
 
I need a job. Can I apply?

What I don't like about office Christmas parties is looking for a job the next day. - Phyllis Diller

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Posted by PaulBC (# 13712) on :
 
As to who to elect ? Beyond my paygrade as a seperated brother. I would h*** he was a pious, holy man,with the capacity to communicate
with people by talking with them as oppossed to talking at them, a man with a view to getting along with we seperated brethern , and jews, muslims et. al. A man of sound doctrine
But maybe a man young enough to lead for awhile.
To H.H. ******** XVI thank you for what you have done and a happy retirement


Volumes might be written upon the impiety of the pious. - Herbert Spencer

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Posted by Ronald Binge (# 9002) on :
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Sch%C3%B6nborn but with reservations due to his visits to Medjugorje.

Never put your faith in a Prince. When you require a miracle, trust in a Witch. - Catherynne M. Valente

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Posted by CL (# 16145) on :
 
Needless to say the bookies are pretty much entirely wide of the mark; it won't be an African, Asian, or South American. That's just a bizarre form of wish fulfilment on the part of liberal, white Westerners (who might be unpleasantly surprised by a p*** actually from those areas, e.g. Ranjith).

If it's going to be a non-Eur***an the only candidate who could attract sufficient support is probably Ouellet.

The most likely candidate, for the simple reason that the Italians will dying to reclaim the papacy, is Scola. He's not particularly popular among the Italian episcopate but he's the only Italian who could attract sufficient support from the rest of the College of C*******s. Unless of course Bertone adopts a "scorched earth" policy and sabotages Scola, which I wouldn't put beyond him. Bagnasco might be considered an outside bet.

Among the other Eur***an candidates probably only Canizares, "the Little Ratzinger" can be considered a serious prospect, but that is tempered by the fact that he only speaks Spanish. The suggestion that Schoenborn is in contention is laughable given he has presided over a de facto civil war in the Austrian church and the Medjugorje crap.

If I had my choice the next p*** would be Burke, but that is unlikely because firstly he would be very strong medicine for the less traditional elements of the College and secondly he's American.

Society bristles with enigmas which look hard to solve. It is a perfect maze of intrigue. - Honore de Balzac

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Posted by Ronald Binge (# 9002) on :
 

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The most likely candidate, for the simple reason that the Italians will dying to reclaim the papacy, is Scola. He's not particularly popular among the Italian episcopate but he's the only Italian who could attract sufficient support from the rest of the College of C*******s.

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Originally posted by Robert Armin:
[QB] I need a job. Can I apply?

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Isn't it about time for the Anti-Christ to get the post?

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I thought that has always been the essential criterion.
 

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Posted by Porridge (# 15405) on :
 
With no dog in this fight, I h*** the post stays ***n long enough to make ***rations go downsl***; maybe those radical American nuns will be able to c*** then . . . or n***.


Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it. - P*** John Paul II

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IN OTHER WORDS READ THE THREAD AT THE TOP OF THE DAMN BOARD, thankyou.

Doublethink
P u r g a t o r y H o s t

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The Rev Stephen Domelevo, from the Ghana C*a*t*h*o*l*i*c communication office, said: "C*a*r*d*i*n*a*l Turkson is a wonderful person, very down to earth and humble. He lived in a simple way, and he was someone people felt very comfortable with. He is excellent at communicating scripture in a way that people really understand. He speaks many local languages – as well as Eur***an languages – and uses jokes and humour to really portray messages to people. He has that human touch." ~from the Guardian

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"Like a rich jewel in an Ethiop's ear;
Beauty too rich for use, for earth too dear!" Shakespeare

Well, I think he's a cuty. Nice smile.

Yeah, yeah, Ghanan not Ethiopian. Bite me.
 

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Posted by Ronald Binge (# 9002) on :
 

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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
Actually, I think C*a*r*d*i*n*a*l Peter Turkson is rather cool.

Some campaign blurb:

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The Rev Stephen Domelevo, from the Ghana C*a*t*h*o*l*i*c communication office, said: "C*a*r*d*i*n*a*l Turkson is a wonderful person, very down to earth and humble. He lived in a simple way, and he was someone people felt very comfortable with. He is excellent at communicating scripture in a way that people really understand. He speaks many local languages – as well as Eur***an languages – and uses jokes and humour to really portray messages to people. He has that human touch." ~from the Guardian

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"Like a rich jewel in an Ethiop's ear;
Beauty too rich for use, for earth too dear!" Shakespeare

Well, I think he's a cuty. Nice smile.

Yeah, yeah, Ghanan not Ethiopian. Bite me.

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IN OTHER WORDS READ THE THREAD AT THE TOP OF THE DAMN BOARD, thankyou.

Doublethink
P u r g a t o r y H o s t

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IN OTHER WORDS READ THE THREAD AT THE TOP OF THE DAMN BOARD, thankyou.

Doublethink
P u r g a t o r y H o s t

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IN OTHER WORDS READ THE THREAD AT THE TOP OF THE DAMN BOARD, thankyou.

Doublethink
P u r g a t o r y H o s t

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IN OTHER WORDS READ THE THREAD AT THE TOP OF THE DAMN BOARD, thankyou.

Doublethink
P u r g a t o r y H o s t

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Posted by Jon in the Nati (# 15849) on :
 
I've got nothing agin' the prospect of a P-O-P-E from the global south, but then I don't have much of a say. I think CL is right, though, in saying that most of the people who want it the most are Western, white librul types (Cafflick or no). And for the life of me, I can't imagine that these people would like a P-O-P-E from Afrika anymore than they would like one from Milan, at least insofar as Dead Horses are concerned. If you wouldn't want Peter Akinola as ABC, then I'm not sure why you'd want Peter Turkson as P-O-P-E.

In short, I just don't get it. Is it just because we want novelty? What if the Italian (boring as it would be) really is the best man to lead the church?

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Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 
Where is your epigram, Jon ?

Doublethink
Purgatory H o s t
 

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Posted by Mere Nick (# 11827) on :
 
I'd vote for Lou Brock because he had a lot of good years with the C*******s when I was growing up.

"You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I'm not hungry enough to eat six."
Yogi Berra
 

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Posted by Jon in the Nati (# 15849) on :
 
Oh boy. Hmm.

"I blessed the rains down in A-a-a-frica..."
~Toto

Am I doing it right?
 

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Posted by Doublethink (# 1984) on :
 

 

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Posted by tclune (# 7959) on :
 

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Originally posted by Jon in the Nati:
Oh boy. Hmm.

"I blessed the rains down in A-a-a-frica..."
~Toto

Am I doing it right?

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Originally posted by Jon in the Nati:
Oh boy. Hmm.

"I blessed the rains down in A-a-a-frica..."
~Toto

Am I doing it right?

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When I try to think of an epigram, all I can come up with is my boyhood rhyme, "Here I sit broken-hearted..." Hardly seems like the sort of thing a P*** should post...

--P*** Thomas I

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Originally posted by Doublethink:
Ronald Binge ! I can see your prose showing, it needs to be decently covered with an epigram or you'll frighten the beef burgers.

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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
Actually, I think C*a*r*d*i*n*a*l Peter Turkson is rather cool.

Some campaign blurb:

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The Rev Stephen Domelevo, from the Ghana C*a*t*h*o*l*i*c communication office, said: "C*a*r*d*i*n*a*l Turkson is a wonderful person, very down to earth and humble. He lived in a simple way, and he was someone people felt very comfortable with. He is excellent at communicating scripture in a way that people really understand. He speaks many local languages – as well as Eur***an languages – and uses jokes and humour to really portray messages to people. He has that human touch." ~from the Guardian

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"Like a rich jewel in an Ethiop's ear;
Beauty too rich for use, for earth too dear!" Shakespeare

Well, I think he's a cuty. Nice smile.

Yeah, yeah, Ghanan not Ethiopian. Bite me.

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A less sanguine view of Card. Turkson:


Clerical Whispers on C******* Turkson*

Stupidity is also a gift of God, but one mustn't misuse it. - P*** John Paul II

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IN OTHER WORDS READ THE THREAD AT THE TOP OF THE DAMN BOARD, thankyou.

Doublethink
P u r g a t o r y H o s t

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Oh. Well then- not so cute.

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An intelligent hell would be better than a stupid paradise.
Victor Hugo

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Originally posted by Soror Magna:
Somebody with better media skills than BXVI.

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Originally posted by Enoch:
Who would you vote for? - seriously rather than spoof-fully? And why?

A person without a sense of humor is like a wagon without springs. It's jolted by every pebble on the road.
- Henry Ward Beecher

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Someone who can get along without a star quality boyfriend, like that dog, Gorgeous George Gaenswein, personal private secretary, who upstaged the papal appearances the all the time.

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Posted by PaulTH* (# 320) on :
 
The election of a Pope from the Third World, especially South Americal or Africa would be a recognition that the Global South is where we must look for further growth in the Church, and that post Christian Europe is no longer the hub it once was. And it wouldn't be a bad thing when we consider that 42% of the worlds Catholics are Latin Americans. This will certainly happen one day.

But I agree with CL that it won't be now. Italy still has the largest bloc of voting Cardinals, 25 out of 118, with the US next at 12. The maths of the conclave make it likely that the Italians will try to reclaim the papacy. My money is on Cardinal Scola. In spite of what the bookies say, the liklihood of a non European this time round is remote.
 

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Posted by Gramps49 (# 16378) on :
 
Myself,I would vote for none of the above. The Collegium is stacked by conservative old men. It does not bode well for the Roman Catholic Church, IMHO.
 

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Posted by Martin PC not & Ship's Biohazard (# 368) on :
 
I'd rather be a hoopoe.
 

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Posted by Forthview (# 12376) on :
 
Gramps the college of Cardinals has had roughly the same sort of make up for centuries.
For centuries also things have not boded well for the Catholic church and yet and yet confident of the ultimate protection of the Holy Spirit the Church continues and will continue until the Great Day of Judgement.
 

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Posted by teddybear (# 7842) on :
 
Fr. Roy Bourgeois because I think he is what the RCC needs right now.
 

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Posted by Alogon (# 5513) on :
 
I'd look for (1) a proven charismatic teacher; (2) doctrinally sound while acquainted with and sympathetic to liberation theology and the thought of René Girard. In fact I'd try to consult Girard himself for advice. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places... (3) It would be a nice bonus if one of the next pope's first acts were to find a good Italian-speaking English cathedral choirmaster to move to Rome and take over the Sistine Chapel Screamers. But if someone with Benedict's impeccable taste and musical connections couldn't do anything about that situation, it's probably hopeless.
 

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Posted by Crœsos (# 238) on :
 
I know it narrows the field quite a lot, but how about someone who doesn't bring to mind phrases like "obstruction of justice" or "accessory after the fact"?
 

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Posted by CL (# 16145) on :
 

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Originally posted by Crœsos:
I know it narrows the field quite a lot, but how about someone who doesn't bring to mind phrases like "obstruction of justice" or "accessory after the fact"?

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Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on :
 
Someone who:

a) is compassionate;

b) takes child abuse seriously;

c) doesn't think protecting clergy is more important than protecting children;

d) is honest;

e) is kind;

f) is shrewd, but not a creature of the Vatican political system;

g) firmly believes that women and girls are equal to men and boys;

h) allows for God having a feminine aspect;

i) is committed to helping the poor;

j) is both gentle and tough, as needed, but always loving;

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g) female.

The last is very unlikely. OTOH, lightning struck St. Peter's when the current pope quit. (Seriously; find the awesome pic online.) And an archbishop in New York, a possible papabile/candidate, said it made him think of the Holy Spirit descending.

So...who knows?!
 

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Posted by agingjb (# 16555) on :
 
"The dove descending breaks the air
With flame of incandescent terror."
 

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Posted by Ronald Binge (# 9002) on :
 

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Originally posted by Crœsos:
I know it narrows the field quite a lot, but how about someone who doesn't bring to mind phrases like "obstruction of justice" or "accessory after the fact"?

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Originally posted by Golden Key:

The last is very unlikely. OTOH, lightning struck St. Peter's when the current pope quit. (Seriously; find the awesome pic online.) And an archbishop in New York, a possible papabile/candidate, said it made him think of the Holy Spirit descending.

So...who knows?!

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Originally posted by the Douay-Rheims Bible, Psalm 77/76 (10-18) :

10 And I said, Now have I begun: this is the change of the right hand of the most High.

11 I remembered the works of the Lord: for I will be mindful of thy wonders from the beginning.

12 And I will meditate on all thy works: and will be employed in thy inventions.

13 Thy way, O God, is in the holy place: who is the great God like our God?

14 Thou art the God that dost wonders. Thou hast made thy power known among the nations:

15 with thy arm thou hast redeemed thy people the children of Jacob and of Joseph.

16 The waters saw thee, O God, the waters saw thee: and they were afraid, and the depths were troubled.

17 Great was the noise of the waters: the clouds sent out a sound. For thy arrows pass:

18 the voice of thy thunder in a wheel. Thy lightnings enlightened the world: the earth shook and trembled.

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Originally posted by Enoch:
In the current instance, if it's a sign of anything at all, rather than the chance concatenance of rain, electricity and a large domed building, it's a sign that something unusual is happening. I don't think anyone can argue it is approval or condemnation. After all, the conductor seems to have worked.

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