Source: (consider it)
|
Thread: Question: Revd Dame
|
Dan BD
Apprentice
# 16559
|
Posted
We all know that CofE clergy knighted after ordination do not use the title "Sir". May CofE clergy "damed" after ordination use the title "Dame"?
-------------------- DBD
We're here to spread your message, we're leading from the front! Your word will cross the borders, you'll be in ev'ry coun- -try soon.
Posts: 24 | Registered: Jul 2011
| IP: Logged
|
|
bad man
Apprentice
# 17449
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Dan BD: We all know that CofE clergy knighted after ordination do not use the title "Sir". May CofE clergy "damed" after ordination use the title "Dame"?
I don't see why not. Knights who are clergy are not "dubbed" with a sword by the Queen (or whoever is doing the honours) which (as I understand it) is why they don't get to be called "Sir". It's also why if they already have the "Sir" before ordination they keep it, because they have been dubbed already.
But a Dame is not dubbed at all. She just gets a medal. So she could be "the Reverend Dame Janet Smith". In fact, that sounds rather good, doesn't it?
Professor Diarmaid MacCulloch talks about this on the Oxford University website, because he was already a deacon in the Church of England when he was knighted last year. He said the distinction "is thanks to a custom which I’m told originated during the reign of that model of Anglican piety, King Edward VII".
He also says "Australian and New Zealand Anglican clergy who were knighted routinely used to ignore this rule, but I expect that was to do with the weather down there".
Posts: 49 | From: Diocese of Guildford | Registered: Nov 2012
| IP: Logged
|
|
BroJames
Shipmate
# 9636
|
Posted
According to Wikipedia an ordained woman who is appointed a dame may take the title quote: since there are no military connotations attached to the honour
[ 12. March 2013, 20:53: Message edited by: BroJames ]
Posts: 3374 | From: UK | Registered: Jun 2005
| IP: Logged
|
|
Thurible
Shipmate
# 3206
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by bad man: Professor Diarmaid MacCulloch talks about this on the Oxford University website
here.
Thurible
-------------------- "I've been baptised not lobotomised."
Posts: 8049 | Registered: Aug 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
fabula rasa
Shipmate
# 11436
|
Posted
There is one such Dame in the C of E--the Rev'd Dame Sarah Mullally. She was DBE'd as Chief Nursing Officer and subsequently moved over to parish ministry. In day-to-day life she doesn't use the DBE bit, but says that occasionally she finds it useful!
Posts: 465 | From: scepter'd isle | Registered: May 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
dj_ordinaire
Host
# 4643
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by BroJames: According to Wikipedia an ordained woman who is appointed a dame may take the title quote: since there are no military connotations attached to the honour
Well, well, well, you live and learn. Just the sort of thing I like to discover on a busy Friday!
I knew that we had one Revd Canon Countess, I had no idea we had a Revd Dame as well!
-------------------- Flinging wide the gates...
Posts: 10335 | From: Hanging in the balance of the reality of man | Registered: Jun 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|