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catalyst
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I can't find an option to receive notices when someone comments? Any help?
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the giant cheeseburger
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This forum uses a fairly old software package which doesn't give you anywhere near as many advanced features as you might find on others. I do agree that subscribing to a thread (or at least having working 'new post' indicators) would be good, but I don't find it essential and there are ways to work around it.
You can select email notifications for replies only on threads which you start, by selecting the box in the options panel below the array of smilies.
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What tgc said. Around here, we party like it's 1999.
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Is there any decision made for how things might proceed with regard to the boards software, RooK? Occasionally, I hear mutterings (from you mainly) of pending doom for the UBB Classic infrastructure here, and there certainly seems to be an increased prevalence in reported symptoms of instability. Is it the case that things are being left tottering on the brink like a five-foot high Jenga tower, where nobody wants to touch the damn thing in case we lose the lot, or are any plans afoot to replace the software preemptively of the celebrated Great Collapse?
I know you love my creative ideas for improving the site, so I'd propose the opening of a completely new bulletin board, starting from absolute scratch, but with access remaining open in perpetuity to these pages- before their ancient structure implodes leaving us dust-covered in its tragic rubble.
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Niteowl
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Considering the age of the software, would the PTB consider starting a fund specifically for the purchase/licensing of new board software?
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Ariel
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What's wrong with what we've got? Age shouldn't be grounds for getting rid of something, if it still works OK and does the job.
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Niteowl
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Originally posted by Ariel:
What's wrong with what we've got? Age shouldn't be grounds for getting rid of something, if it still works OK and does the job.
Age isn't grounds in and of itself. I've still got some ancient software - it does a very good job. This software doesn't handle the load very well these days, along with a few other glitches. ETA: I also see comments every once in a while from admins that problems that pop up are generally due to the age of the board software. If it solves those problems and more, as well as adding a few features what's wrong with getting new software?
[ 28. December 2012, 12:16: Message edited by: Niteowl ]
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Software upgrades are primarily a commercial thing. There should really be no need for half as many of them if programmers get it right in the first place, but software companies won't make money if they produce something that works perfectly, is light on memory usage and all the rest of it. People have to be encouraged to keep buying the product.
And so over the years we are all now used to buying a "version" of software on the understanding that within a matter of months it will be superseded by something else. Which will be bigger and better (and more bloated) with more bugs (but not all) corrected and which will ultimately lead to your having to buy a new computer as well, because computer manufacturers wouldn't make a lot of money if they produced something durable that lasted you for years. Much of the time the new software that you then buy includes features that you don't need, use or want and they tweak it for the sake of it (the horrid Microsoft Office Ribbon is one feature I'd gladly dispense with).
It's a rat race which I deliberately opted out of a long time ago; I won't upgrade stuff that works perfectly well, just for the sake of it.
What new features would you want on this forum? It's easy to navigate, quick to load, clear to read. We don't have people with 5" animated sigs and blinking multicoloured text, and graphics don't clutter the place up. In fact when other sites are slow to load I can almost always get into this one - if I can't I know something's wrong.
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Niteowl
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Originally posted by Ariel:
What new features would you want on this forum? It's easy to navigate, quick to load, clear to read. We don't have people with 5" animated sigs and blinking multicoloured text, and graphics don't clutter the place up. In fact when other sites are slow to load I can almost always get into this one - if I can't I know something's wrong.
I agree with you that frequent upgrades aren't necessary and don't do them myself, but there does come a time when the age of the software does make problems. The major one I see here is the frequently occurring problem of the software not being able to handle the load, then the other small "hiccups" that I've seen attributed to the age factor.
As to improvements, a major one would be a search function that actually works, the one the OP brought up of being able to subscribe to specific threads and the ability to easily follow the posts of those on your buddy list. I can live without most of the bells and whistles the newest packages come with and I can live without those I mentioned as this board is worth living without the features, though the search function uselessness is quite frustrating. Also newer software would make finding threads that have been put in Oblivion and Limbo much easier to find. There are a lot of valuable threads there and the old software requires frequent cleaning out of threads to them, so many are quite recent.
ETA: The site generally is fast, but more and more lately the site has slowdowns. Last night it was very slow here. Meaning taking minutes to load a page.
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On other boards I frequent, I do appreciate...
- functional search tools
- functional ignore lists
- functional read/unread status
- subscriptions to threads or users
- inserting images into messages (whether as full-size, thumbnails or either)
- report buttons
- WYSIWYG editors
I understand that SoF has chosen to lie in this bed for so long that it's turned into a house, and that shifting to new software would be an extremely painful process . However, I think it would still be good to investigate, and that it really needed to be talked about six or seven years ago, before the sheer weight of history on the current system got so heavy.
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Were you volunteering your time and money to do all this , then?
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Simon has new board software considerations among his top priorities, Ship-wise. Because it would be nice to have functioning search tools again, and something more stable with the scale of this community. Worth noting is that we currently disallow images and have turned off the report feature, and would likely do the same with any new software. Because images are bandwidth hogs and clutter up threads, and the report feature drowned us in useless whining.
Besides the money and time hurdles we need to overcome (which are not inconsiderable), we're also hoping to find a way to port over all the account information. Which, listening in to comments from Simon and pease, sounds problematic.
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Yeah, Hear here! The wagon had walls and four wheels just like the cars did. Nothing but marketing.
BOTH run on horse power too!
quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
Software upgrades are primarily a commercial thing. There should really be no need for half as many of them if programmers get it right in the first place, but software companies won't make money if they produce something that works perfectly, is light on memory usage and all the rest of it. People have to be encouraged to keep buying the product.
And so over the years we are all now used to buying a "version" of software on the understanding that within a matter of months it will be superseded by something else. Which will be bigger and better (and more bloated) with more bugs (but not all) corrected and which will ultimately lead to your having to buy a new computer as well, because computer manufacturers wouldn't make a lot of money if they produced something durable that lasted you for years. Much of the time the new software that you then buy includes features that you don't need, use or want and they tweak it for the sake of it (the horrid Microsoft Office Ribbon is one feature I'd gladly dispense with).
It's a rat race which I deliberately opted out of a long time ago; I won't upgrade stuff that works perfectly well, just for the sake of it.
What new features would you want on this forum? It's easy to navigate, quick to load, clear to read. We don't have people with 5" animated sigs and blinking multicoloured text, and graphics don't clutter the place up. In fact when other sites are slow to load I can almost always get into this one - if I can't I know something's wrong.
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Niteowl
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quote:
Originally posted by RooK:
Simon has new board software considerations among his top priorities, Ship-wise. Because it would be nice to have functioning search tools again, and something more stable with the scale of this community. Worth noting is that we currently disallow images and have turned off the report feature, and would likely do the same with any new software. Because images are bandwidth hogs and clutter up threads, and the report feature drowned us in useless whining.
Besides the money and time hurdles we need to overcome (which are not inconsiderable), we're also hoping to find a way to port over all the account information. Which, listening in to comments from Simon and pease, sounds problematic.
I like this board because they do not allow images - I've been a member where that feature has been problematic, though it can be nice at times.
Having donated to the ship I would also be willing to donate to a new software fund should the problem of porting all account info be solved.
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I'm glad that this software doesn't allow images as I'm using what my nephew refers to as "dinosaur dial-up" Also I hope that the simplicity of the format would be retained.
I would be reluctant for a change unless it was essential. Almost every time I hear that a system has been 'improved' - it hasn't. And while I'm being a techno-fogey, I'd hate having a like button as these are discussion boards, not a popularity contest.
Having said all that I would be willing to make another donation if change is essential for the survival of the boards.
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Rosa Winkel
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Originally posted by Huia:
I'm glad that this software doesn't allow images as I'm using what my nephew refers to as "dinosaur dial-up" Also I hope that the simplicity of the format would be retained.
I agree. On another forum I go on people upload images, and occasionally you get someone quoting a whole range of images in order to post " ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) " or the such, something that increases the time to load the page.
Given that some here do that here now, or with multi-quoting, I think we can do without.
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Spike
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Originally posted by Huia:
I'm glad that this software doesn't allow images as I'm using what my nephew refers to as "dinosaur dial-up"
Actually, the software does allow images, but we've disabled it because because of abuse in the past.
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the giant cheeseburger
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quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
Were you volunteering your time and money to do all this , then?
Somebody asked "what more could you want" so I gave an answer. If you read my post more fully, you would have seen that I'm also quite realistic about it being tough to upgrade for various reasons. I'd be happy to chip in a bit if it meant we got an upgrade to a newer system which includes all those functions that the vast majority of other forums have had for many years, and warded off the growing instability of the current system.
I also forgot to mention quick reply.
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Sioni Sais
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When the PTB go shopping for a replacement they will certainly want reliability but a comparison of the current software, which hasn't been upgraded/buggered about with much for a decade to something shiny which may still be bedding down, might not give the hoped for results.
Huia makes a good point that some members use elderly hardware & software via less than state-of-the-art communications, so we'll have to cater for that too.
I'm sure everyone would like the live and recent threads to be carried over to the new environment with links to the threads closed earlier (like Limbo and the Holy Grail of a searchable Oblivion).
Remember too that the forums are but a part of the Ship of Fools, so any replacement would have to either be for the entire vessel or able to slot neatly into the space left by the current forums.
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I fear change.
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Ditto.
My agency's website recently went through a redesign with accompanying software changes (a smaller and probably much simpler set of changes than what's being proposed here, almost certainly).
It's crashed 8 times in 5-6 weeks; various important features still don't work; peeps from "outside" can no longer locate such basic info as hours and location, and on and on and on.
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Amorya
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quote:
Originally posted by RooK:
Besides the money and time hurdles we need to overcome (which are not inconsiderable), we're also hoping to find a way to port over all the account information. Which, listening in to comments from Simon and pease, sounds problematic.
If there isn't an off the shelf solution, it's possible to do that by writing some custom code. (This isn't the same as hacking the board software, as it's code that is run once to do the migration and then can be deleted.) UBB Classic stores passwords in plain text, so they can easily be converted to whatever encryption method a new board requires.
Normally I'm loathe to volunteer for programming projects due to absence of free time, but a board data migration would probably take me less than a weekend to write… so if you do need help, let me know. I've written a number in the past, from various weird and wonderful systems. But definitely check out off the shelf ways of doing the import first, as one might exist.
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Pyx_e
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- I like what we have
- I will chip in for new stuff
- It will crash/piss people off for a while
- can we have a cull of shipmates who have not (after a period of notification) posted for say 2 years?
- there is a lot to be said for how simple these boards are
- can we go back Neo ? (first in)
- death is the mother of beauty
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Amorya
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quote:
Originally posted by Pyx_e:
- there is a lot to be said for how simple these boards are
That's true. I have faith in our staff that we won't end up with all the bling turned on just because we can, though.
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Pyx_e
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Amorya passes the interview by editing a list well.
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Marvin the Martian
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quote:
Originally posted by Amorya:
quote:
Originally posted by Pyx_e:
- there is a lot to be said for how simple these boards are
That's true. I have faith in our staff that we won't end up with all the bling turned on just because we can, though.
As others have said, we can do most of the "bling" now. We choose not to, and we will choose not to in any new software we may end up migrating to.
The front end, user-focused pages will probably look and feel pretty similar to what they are now, just with a better search and the ability to manage a board the size of Oblivion.
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Soror Magna
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Originally posted by Pyx_e:
... [list]
[*]can we have a cull of shipmates who have not (after a period of notification) posted for say 2 years? ...
Hell, no, they are our gentle readers!
ETA Ay, my code. I just bombed the interview.
[ 29. December 2012, 18:47: Message edited by: Soror Magna ]
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Originally posted by Pyx_e:
can we have a cull of shipmates who have not (after a period of notification) posted for say 2 years?
Some shipmates stop posting for years and then come back. I would hate to make their return more difficult.
Moo
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Robert Armin
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The only change mentioned that I think would be helpful is a decent search function. That would be handy, but I can live without it very happily.
For all the rest - if it's not broke, why fix it?
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Moo
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Originally posted by Robert Armin:
For all the rest - if it's not broke, why fix it?
Unfortunately, it's partly broke. If we didn't have people like pease troubleshooting, things wouldn't work so well.
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Just think of the Ship as the craigslist of discussion forums.
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lilBuddha
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quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:
Ditto.
My agency's website recently went through a redesign with accompanying software changes (a smaller and probably much simpler set of changes than what's being proposed here, almost certainly).
It's crashed 8 times in 5-6 weeks; various important features still don't work; peeps from "outside" can no longer locate such basic info as hours and location, and on and on and on.
IME, this is often, in part, a function of the purchasing authority opting for the best sales pitch and not the best solution. ISTM the SOF captain and crew are a bit more savvy.
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Hell, no, they are our gentle readers!
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Some shipmates stop posting for years and then come back. I would hate to make their return more difficult.
My point was not to be nasty. Simply to not load/overload any new system with data that will never get used. That seems like common sense.
And it is not difficult to sign back in or read the boards without signing in. And I was suggesting a "sign in now to get transfered" period.
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Spike
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I for one didn't read your point as being nasty. Quite the opposite as you raise a very good and valid point. On top of that, as well as shipmates who haven't posted for years, there are hundreds, if not thousands of people who have registered but never posted.
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quote:
Originally posted by Robert Armin:
The only change mentioned that I think would be helpful is a decent search function.
Does this site-specific Google search work for you?
search term site:forum.ship-of-fools.com
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quote:
Originally posted by Dal Segno:
quote:
Originally posted by Robert Armin:
The only change mentioned that I think would be helpful is a decent search function.
Does this site-specific Google search work for you?
search term site:forum.ship-of-fools.com
It "works" in that you can put in some keywords and get a page of results.
It doesn't work in that it only offers a simple keyword search and does not provide any way to filter or sort the results. It's a very poor substitute for a functional forum search tool.
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The only thing that worries me ( because this happened to me on Twitter,on MySpace, and another forum) is someone using the change to register under someone else's ID, just to screw with them. I take comfort in the continuity we have, identity-wise.
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
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RuthW
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It disturbs me that a) I'm not sneaky enough to have thought of that on my own, and b) I'm mean enough, now that you've pointed it out, to start thinking of who I'd want to mess with like that. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Kelly Alves
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It disturbs me that I am so unaware of what a colossal fucking idiot I am, who is capable of planting a colossally evil idea into a mind such as yours without the slightest little effervescent thought of the consequences bubbling to the surface of my cleary substandard mind. ![[brick wall]](graemlins/brick_wall.gif)
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
The only thing that worries me ( because this happened to me on Twitter,on MySpace, and another forum) is someone using the change to register under someone else's ID, just to screw with them. I take comfort in the continuity we have, identity-wise.
Well, we do have a list of the email addresses everyone has registered with, and it would be possible (though a bloody lot of work, as we'd have to do it manually) to only allow registrations using existing names if they were from the same email address.
I'm not saying I'd want to have to go through that, of course! But it's theoretically possible.
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For extra protection, would it be possible to keep the current boards up in tandem with the new boards, just long enough for people to publicly state here, "yes, that is me who just registered under XXXX"?
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the giant cheeseburger
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It may well be possible to port the user ID and password over to the new system, as it was pointed out upthread that UBB Classic stores these as plain text.
This was certainly the case with another board I was involved with a few years ago, they switched from phpBB to vBulletin with the login details being retained as they were before.
Relying on people still having the same email addresses in use might not be the way to figure it out though. There are still many people out there who use ISP email addresses and tell people when they shift to a different provider, treating it just like changing to a new snail mail address.
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The cost would not usually be licensing, but deployment, transfer of data etc. Most forums use open source software packages. Wld hope this is the plan.
I might suggest someone write a sort of business plan up with the process and reasonable cost estimates and you might find that people will consider funding portions. Then put up an attractive fundraising link with a good "hook". I have contributed several times to crowd sourced initiatives which have generally raised funds rather easily this way. So please tell us the plan, budget and target date. Then I'll send you my doubloons and pieces of eight. Yup, tell us about the treasure map and what's in the treasure chest!
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The cost would not usually be licensing, but deployment, transfer of data etc. Most forums use open source software packages. Wld hope this is the plan.
I might suggest someone write a sort of business plan up with the process and reasonable cost estimates and you might find that people will consider funding portions. Then put up an attractive fundraising link with a good "hook". I have contributed several times to crowd sourced initiatives which have generally raised funds rather easily this way. So please tell us the plan, budget and target date. Then I'll send you my doubloons and pieces of eight. Yup, tell us about the treasure map and what's in the treasure chest!
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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
Relying on people still having the same email addresses in use might not be the way to figure it out though. There are still many people out there who use ISP email addresses and tell people when they shift to a different provider, treating it just like changing to a new snail mail address.
The Ship is one of those "people" that anyone changing their email address should be informing.
Having an invalid email address in your profile has been grounds for account locking or suspension (until a valid one is supplied) in the past, and doubtless will be again.
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Amorya
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Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
It may well be possible to port the user ID and password over to the new system, as it was pointed out upthread that UBB Classic stores these as plain text.
I would imagine we could port pretty much everything (usernames/passwords, profile fields, past posts, private message inboxes) given the inclination. I've already offered to help out if there isn't an off-the-shelf porting script for the combination of boards we choose.
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Marvin the Martian
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Do people really think post counts are important enough to be worth the effort of copying over to any new software that might come along?
[post in haste, edit at leisure]
[ 31. December 2012, 14:37: Message edited by: Marvin the Martian ]
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Hail Gallaxhar
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Amorya
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Do people really think post counts are important enough to be worth the effort of copying over to any new software that might come along?
[post in haste, edit at leisure]
The archives of previously posted messages would be. You'd get the user post counts for free when copying these.
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Grits
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
Do people really think post counts are important enough to be worth the effort of copying over to any new software that might come along?
[post in haste, edit at leisure]
Do you really have to ask?
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Originally posted by Dal Segno:
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Originally posted by Robert Armin:
The only change mentioned that I think would be helpful is a decent search function.
Does this site-specific Google search work for you?
search term site:forum.ship-of-fools.com
It "works" in that you can put in some keywords and get a page of results.
It doesn't work in that it only offers a simple keyword search and does not provide any way to filter or sort the results.
Er, yes it does, the ones Google has. Its really fast and pretty comprehensive and much better than just about any in-forum search I use.
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L’amor che move il sole e l’altre stelle.
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