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Thread: Trigger Warnings
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scuffleball
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Is there a policy on this?
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Spike
Mostly Harmless
# 36
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Can you explain what you mean?
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Tubbs
Miss Congeniality
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Not as such. Some issues - suicidal feelings, medical advice - are covered under existing policies and their discussion on the boards is not permitted. Great though the Ship is, it isn't a substitute for face to face support and professional help. (They have legal implications for the Ship as well, which is another reason they're off limits).
For other issues, the Ship relies on a poster's good sense to include warnings, line spaces etc in posts on issues that could be considered triggers for others. It isn't something that's enforced as one person's trigger might not be another's.
My personal take is that these kind of posts are likely to involve sharing information that could make the poster very vulnerable. If you wouldn't share what you're just about to press post on with a trusted friend in private, then think twice about posting it here. This is a discussion board and people will discuss your personal circumstances like they would any other topic. The Ship is also completely open access and not everyone reading will have your best interests at heart.
Any particular reason for this question? (Genuine question, no agenda!)
Tubbs
[ 28. August 2013, 12:50: Message edited by: Tubbs ]
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Schroedinger's cat
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If you are intending posting something that you feel is likely to trigger someone else, then putting a warning on is a good idea. However, as Tubbs pointed out, triggers are different for different people.
On the Waving board, the hosts will sometimes add a trigger warning where something is posted that we feel is potentially triggery, but then we have a specific remit, and we have learnt what people find triggery ( also, other wavers will sometimes tell us that something is potentially an issue ). I don't see how that could really be extended sensibly to other boards, with their wider remit and wider clientelle.
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Tubbs
Miss Congeniality
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Sorry for not posting this OP by Erin from 2003 earlier, it took a while to find. The reason I'm reposting it now is that it explains the Ship's policy about some of the issues that on other websites may carry trigger warnings way better that I did in my previous post. It also gives details of how things are dealt with behind the scenes.
Please note, this is for information only as the policy was implemented after taking legal advice. It's not intended as a discussion opener.
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I'll get the legal stuff out of the way first: Ship of Fools is in no way intended as a support or self-help site. We are a debate board, given to discussion of various theological, ethical, political, social, etc. dilemmas that people wrestle with every day. That we have boards dedicated to the community and other, more light-hearted pursuits is testimony to the friendships that have arisen from the interactions here, and that is entirely down to y'all. However, the editors, administrators and hosts of the Ship must draw a line as to what "services" we offer. The line is this: the Ship is in no way to be used as a substitute for counseling services -- be they legal, medical, psychological, psychiatric or spiritual. Posts which seek to elicit such responses are very strongly discouraged, and repeated posts along those lines will be deleted.
Now, to the second part. No matter how much we care, interactions on an electronic bulletin board are wholly inadequate to accomplish significant psychological recovery. Because this is sometimes difficult to see, we are instituting a policy: effective immediately, Ship of Fools' bulletin boards are neither appropriate nor adequate venues for suicidal ideations. Do not waste precious time by posting here -- if you suspect that your feelings of hopelessness or despair are more than just a reaction to a difficult time in your life or normal spiritual angst, or you think about suicide, then you need professional help, immediately, and you can't get that here.
The Ship is not the place to post those feelings, not only for the aforementioned legal reasons, but also because this is a bulletin board with open, unfettered access. The boards alone average over a million hits each month. We are concerned that not only are people using the Ship to substitute for counseling, but also that those who post along those lines make themselves open and vulnerable to others who perhaps do not have your best interests at heart.
We want to see all of you happy and healthy, and it is our responsibility to recognize the limitations of this medium. If you have general questions about this policy, post them here. If you have specific questions relating to yourself or others, send an e-mail or PM to one of the administrators.
Tubbs
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scuffleball
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Originally posted by Tubbs:
*Cut for length*
Thanks, that's okay. It wasn't because of anything distressing that had happened to me personally; it was because I wanted to start a thread about a distressing concept that had not affected me personally and wanted to avoid causing undue distress to those who had been affected by it.
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Trudy Scrumptious
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I have just watched what appeared to be a Facebook group made up of mostly intelligent, thoughtful individuals from diverse backgrounds go into complete meltdown mode over the issue of posting trigger warnings on comments that might contain "triggery" material for some people. However, I'm confident the old Ship is seaworthy enough to ride out any such storms.
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Anglo Catholic Relict
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The problem with letting people know one's potential triggers is that this is, to me, far worse than giving a broad indication of a condition. I don't mind people knowing that I struggle with certain issues. I mind very much telling them exactly where I am vulnerable.
It is a bit like Achilles putting up posters all over the wall of Troy saying that he is most vulnerable in his heel, complete with diagram; the result is unlikely to be compassionate.
If I were to be triggered, I very much doubt if anyone here would ever know. I have made the mistake in the past of being honest online about this, and it brought out the very worst in people. I don't do that any more.
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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scuffleball - I think if you want to discuss something that you're afraid might upset some people, just make the thread title really clear. i.e. put words like anorexia or suicide or whatever right there in the title. people can watch themselves. We're all adults, here. legally speaking, anyway.
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