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Thread: Vroooooooooooomm... - Motorsport 2014
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Smudgie
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A brand new year, a brand new thread.
Welcome anew - have fun and don't forget to keep both hands on the wheel.
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Sir Kevin
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God willing, the Mrs. will get a real job with a proper salary and we'll see the USGP in person for the first time in 38 years!
The last time I saw it, I was in Long Beach: I walked from my future father-in-law's house and bribed a rent-a-cop $10 to stand at the hairpin curve. That was a good venue: I miss it! I am given to understand that there shall be two USGPs soon....
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:bump:
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Sir Kevin
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Studying up on the upcoming Formula One cars: not enamoured of the "gentleman's appendage" featured on most of them. Wish they'd bring back V16s and V12s!
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The Rogue
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Is anyone interested in a prediction competition this year?
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Wet Kipper
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Here, or using a 3rd party?
I'm part of one on superbru.com
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The Rogue
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I was thinking here. We have done them before but most recently there weren't a lot of interested participants. I was just wondering if that has changed. So far it looks like it hasn't.
I am doing one that Rogue jr and some friends are running elsewhere on the internet.
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Wet Kipper
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I'd be intetested in joining in.
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Imaginary Friend
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I confess I'm feeling completely underwhelmed by the prospect of a new season. But I'd be more than happy to participate in a prediction game especially if
(a) it's not too complicated,
(b) there's no expectation that one actually watches the races! ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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The Rogue
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OK, I'll start one off and see what takers there are. Initially this will be purely for F1 for no sporting reason at all.
Two points for correctly predicting pole; four points for race winner; three for second; two for third; one for predicting a podium place but on the wrong step; two for fastest lap. Also, for a bit of fun can you guess the sum of the race numbers on the podium. One point for whoever is closest.
So I need five names (not all different necessarily but five names the same would be a bit daft) and a number.
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Wet Kipper
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OK, I'll bite to get us going
Australian GP:
Pole: Hamilton
#1: Hamilton
#2: Rosberg
#3: Alonso
Fastest Lap: Vettel
Podium total: 64
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Sir Kevin
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Australian Gran Prix:
Pole: Lewis
1: Lewis
2: Fred
3: Seb
Fastest Lap: Fred
Podium total: 64?
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Aussie GP:
Pole: Rosberg
1st: Alonso
2nd: Hamilton
3rd: Raikkonen
Podium tally: 67
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The Rogue
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I'd better predict in my game.
Pole: Hamilton
Race winner: Hamilton
Second: Vettell
Third: Rosberg
Fastest lap: Rosberg
Podium total: 51
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Imaginary Friend
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Honestly, what a farce. Bernie might as well give each of the drivers a Prius and send them out racing, seeing as how Formula 1 is now dominated by fuel saving, engines that sound like the lasers in the old Star Wars movies, and cars so fragile that one failed sensor will cause the whole thing to stop working.
And how are the teams supposed to race competently when there are such massive rule changes and they are given so little testing time? Sending them out to the grid lacking fundamental understanding of how their cars work might add to the "spectacle", but it ruins Formula 1's sporting integrity.
Disgraceful.
The only redeeming feature of that race is that the tyres weren't falling apart.
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Schroedinger's cat
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Don't agree. I thought it was a superb race. some of the teams managed to cope with the changes, and produce cars that did the job.
Yes it is different. It will take a few races for all of the teams to properly understand how their cars are working and make sure they can finish. That is often the case with major changes.
F1 should be at the peak of automotive engineering excellence. I believe that it still is - the teams have had a whole lot of new engineering challenges to deal with this year, and have - largely - risen to the challenges.
I am so looking forward to more races, to see the strategies that they utilise. I think we may be in for a rocky season, but I think we will find some more great races.
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Wet Kipper
Circus Runaway
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So how did we do in the game?
Time for more guesses?
Hamilton pole
Podium rosberg, hamilton, vettel
Podium value 67
Fastest lap:
Rosberg
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Imaginary Friend
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Qualifying is currently delayed due to heavy rain*, so I've just got time to get my predictions in under the wire:
Pole: Hamilton
1st: Rosberg
2nd: Hamilton
3rd: Ricciardo
Total podium: 53.
* Is this possibly the only thing that Formula 1 and cricket have in common?!
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Wet Kipper
Circus Runaway
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So how did we do in the game?
Time for more guesses?
Hamilton pole
Podium rosberg, hamilton, vettel
Podium value 67
Fastest lap:
Rosberg
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Imaginary Friend
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Lift and coast, blah blah blah.
Engine mapping, yackety yack yack.
Tyre degradation, blah blah blah.
Fuel saving, chunter chunter chunter.
I want the real Formula 1 back.
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Wet Kipper
Circus Runaway
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Are we still playing?
This time round a slight change to my previous
Pole: Hamilton
Podium: Hamilton, Rosberg, better
podium value: 69 (if no one else enters I still get the points for being closest?)
Fastest lap Hamilton
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Imaginary Friend
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I'm still game:
Pole: Hamilton
1st: Hamilton
2nd: Rosberg
3rd: Alonso
Total podium: 64
Fastest lap: Hamilton
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An die Freude
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Ok, I'll join in just because there's a Swede in the race for the first time in many years.
1. Ericsson
2. Magnussen
3. Räikkönen
Total podium number: 34
Fastest lap: Ericsson
Can I subscribe to precisely this list being a standing contribution to each and every GP? I shan't change it unless they change drivers halfway through the season. Thanks!
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Sir Kevin
Ship's Gaffer
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Lewis
Kevin
Fred
Pole Lewis
total podium 48
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Sir Kevin
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Oops!
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Tom Day
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I know I've been a little absent from the boards recently but...
So, Monaco today. I always enjoy watching this one, and I think it could get quite tasty today with Lewis a little unhappy at Nico. I should imagine that unless he gets the overtake done in first few laps he will find it almost impossible and will have to hope that he pressurises him into a mistake.
It is still pretty impressive that even at a track like Monaco, there is still 4 tenths between the Mercedes and the rest. I was kinda hoping that Riccardo could get close.
Tom
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The Rogue
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Eddie Jordan suggested that the Mercedes** will take each other out, giving Ricciardo his first win. It could happen and a couple of years ago Hamilton was less calm so maybe then it would have happened.
My tuppenny worth is that it was a genuine error on a lap that had already seen a mistake earlier on so it wouldn't have been an improvement on his existing time. He then weaved from side to side as he went down the escape road as though there was some doubt in his mind as to what to do. But he did go well down so I think ultimately he did what he could.
It is the nature of the circuit that any incident will result in yellow flags whereas other tracks give more scope for marshals keeping things going. If Hamilton had had a catastrophic event approaching that corner I expect he would have preferred an empty run-off road to one with Rosberg and/or his car parked in it.
** Mercedeses / Mercedess / Mercedes' - what is the plural?
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Ad Orientem
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I don't like Monaco. I don't think it should be part of F1 anymore. There's no real race. Barring crashes everyone will pretty much cross the finish line in the order that they left the starting grid.
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The Rogue
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If it was purely down to the race it would have been binned a long time ago.
But this race gives a lot of the glamour which so many people around F1 love - including sponsors - so in practice it will be the last to go.
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Sir Kevin
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I like street races! I heard but did not see the famous race in Long Beach when we were newlyweds in 1978: as mentioned earlier, in 1976, I bribed a rent-a-cop and saw the entire race from the hairpin curve after walking from my then-future father-in-law's house. My lovely bride did not get interested in F1 until the last three or four years. She couldn't avoid it: there is a large television in the master bedroom with a DVR that I use to record and replay all of the races. I used to go in my den at 4.30 AM and watch races on my old colour console TV until the picture tube went out a couple of years ago. It cost me only $50!
I nearly saw another USGP in the '90s, but with tickets at $100 at the time, all I could afford was taking the kid on the garage tour, which was free. I miss the diversity of engine sounds: the Lamborghini with its screaming V12, a V10 in another car and the V8 in the McLaren!
During that period, some of my fellow marshalls in the Sports Car Club of America flagged some of the European F1s.
God willing, we can go to the USGP this year if Z can get time off her new teaching job and we've saved enough money to finance it: we'll fly in, stay with my sister in Austin and likely borrow her husband's old Acura to drive to the track!
I hope Lewis regains his top form and wins another championship...
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Tom Day
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Qualifying today was interesting for the Canadian Grand Prix. I thought Lewis would do it but Nico was that little bit quicker. Williams did well - and it looks like the race for 3rd could be interesting with the Red Bulls, Williams and Ferrari's all around the same pace.
My money is still on Lewis - in an out and out battle and with overtaking slightly easier than in Monaco he should be able to take Nico.
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Doublethink.
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Wellll, I don't think anyone was expecting that to happen.
There are going to be a fair few folks not talking to each other tomorrow.
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Sir Kevin
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i never liked Nico anyway!
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Tom Day
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quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
i never liked Nico anyway!
As much as though I would like Lewis to win, I don't think Nico can be blamed. Yes he went straight on at the chicane and broke the drs with Hamilton but the stewards deemed it ok. Lewis wouldn't have overtaken him if he hadn't.
It was a shame that Lewis had to retire. I should imagine that Nico will have at least one retirement is year so should even things up a bit. The Massa / Perez incident was interesting. And I think Vettel drove well to miss it. I agree with the stewards punishing Perez as he did move across.
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Sir Kevin
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Am I the only one watching Le Mans here? I am cheering for Aston-Marin in the GTE Pro class and they were winning when I stopped the DVR....
That said, I should like to see Audi lose for a change!
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This isn't really about motor-sport per se, but some good news about one of its most illustrious proponents.
Wishing Mr. Schumacher a full recovery. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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Sir Kevin
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Glad he's out of the coma and in hospital at Lausanne near his home on the shores of Lake Geneva!
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Sir Kevin
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quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
Am I the only one watching Le Mans here? I am cheering for Aston-Marin in the GTE Pro class and they were winning when I stopped the DVR....
( Aston Martin won the Amateur class and place fifth in the GTE Pro. At least Chevrolet didn't win it all - I'm a Ford man! )
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Doublethink.
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Hamilton takes the Silverstone Grand Prix ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Sir Kevin
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So happy that Lewis won after agonizing through qualifying! ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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The news looks pretty good for Raikkonen after his crash. No indications of anything broken.
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Sir Kevin
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I'm glad he's gonna be OK, but Kimi's still a has-been.
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Sir Kevin
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SPOILER ALERT!
My idol Lewis went from zero to hero, starting at 20th and making it to the podium. While I wish he'd been second instead of third, I am happy for his teammate and hope Nico R. is passed and defeated by Lewis next week! I remember the career of Keke fondly though I did not follow F1 that closely back in the day as racing broadcasts of F1 in the US were not same-day available.
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He did a brilliant job, given where he started. And it was a spectacular race.
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Sir Kevin
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Long live English F1 drivers. What's up wif Jenson? Does his car really stink?
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Sir Kevin
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Are there really only two gearheads left on the Ship?
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Ad Orientem
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Valtteri Bottas has been the surprise of the season so far for me and, of course, he's Finnish, continuing the long tradition of great drivers from this small nation.
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quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
I'm glad he's gonna be OK, but Kimi's still a has-been.
No he ain't. He's just got a crap car.
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