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Thread: How do I "take it to Hell"?
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Lilac
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# 17979
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In the thread "Street harassement of women", somebody suggested I was being offensive, and I responded in a way which was deemed unsuitable. You can see for yourself at the end of that thread. How do I "take it to Hell"? Or should I respond with a private message? In each case how uninhibited am I allowed to be in my expression of distaste at the idea of having my boobs grabbed by a complete stranger? Always remembering that there might have been some misunderstanding...
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Spike
Mostly Harmless
# 36
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If someone has upset you to the extent arguing with them is likely to derail the thread, then start a new thread in Hell. This would usually have a thread title along the lines of "calling xxxx to Hell"
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lilBuddha
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# 14333
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Having seen the exchange, I think it possible the two of you have misinterpreted each other.
In a PM, you could politely work out what each of you meant/thought the other meant. If you still feel antipathy, start a Hell thread.
In Hell, one can be very uninhibited. So too, though, can all the respondents.
You could start a Hell thread and politely work out intent, but again, you make yourself a target of others regardless of that resolution.
In my personal opinion, it is better to be nice first.
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mdijon
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# 8520
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quote:
Originally posted by Lilac:
Always remembering that there might have been some misunderstanding...
Indeed. My question regarding offense wasn't on behalf of the grasping old man, but on behalf of Chive who I thought was describing an unpleasant and rightly illegal sexual assault. I thought describing the grasping old man as likely senile seemed to be a minimization tactic. I can see from your subsequent response that obviously wasn't your intention. Neither was it my intention to protest on behalf of the attacker.
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Barnabas62
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# 9110
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From the 10 Commandments link, just underneath the "shipoffools.com" heading.
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3. Attack the issue, not the person
Name-calling and personal insults are only allowed in Hell. Attacks outside of Hell are grounds for suspension or banning.
4. If you must get personal, take it to Hell
If you get into a personality conflict with other shipmates, you have two simple choices: end the argument or take it to Hell.
When all else fails, read the instructions. You know, the ones we all agreed to follow when we signed up here.
The way you do it has been explained above. Why it is your only option if you wish to continue name calling is explained by Commandments 3 and 4.
Why can you get away with name calling and insulting in Hell? Because Hell is a safety valve, created especially for venting by those who are pissed off with other Shipmates - or anything else. The Hellboard rules expect pissed-offness.
Why can't you name-call or insult in Purgatory or on any of the other Boards except Hell? Because, just as in RL, name-calling buggers up discussions.
The somebody who told you to stop is Eutychus, one of the Purgatory Hosts. Host and Admin, and only them, have the job of reminding people of the rules they agreed to when they signed up, and enforcing them if necessary. That's one of their jobs. You can tell he is a host because he is named as one of the Purgatory Hosts at the top of the Purgatory Board summary page.
I hope that covers all bases, even if it covers ones you already knew well enough already.
[xposted with mdijon]
[ 02. February 2014, 16:05: Message edited by: Barnabas62 ]
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Eutychus
From the edge
# 3081
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And just to clarify, usual practice amongst hosts is to make it quite clear when they are posting in a hostly capacity (as opposed to simply as another contributor to the debate).
I indicate a host post by marking it as follows
hosting/
[post]
/hosting
or similar.
[ 02. February 2014, 17:33: Message edited by: Eutychus ]
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Lilac
Shipmate
# 17979
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Ah, enlightenment! Sorry, mdijon, I see now how easy it is for things to get misinterpreted when you're restricted to the written word. I couldn't see how hurling insults in the "Hell" department would help the situation anyway. Obviously I wondered how any bloke in a normal mental state would feel free to grope a young lady in public with witnesses. How would he expect to get away with it? And obviously I never thought you were like that!
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by Lilac:
[...] How would he expect to get away with it? And obviously I never thought you were like that!
Hm... Forgive me: both of these sentences could be interpreted in one of several ways. Language on bulletin boards is a most tricky thing. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
Some of the contributors on this 'ere Ship are master wordsmiths; us others may have to resort to smilies to clarify what we mean, as long as we haven't reached their superior, and praiseworthy, skills. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) Thus: the occasional use of such might sometimes support your argument. (And sometimes not.) ![[Angel]](graemlins/angel.gif)
[ 02. February 2014, 20:18: Message edited by: Wesley J ]
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