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ChastMastr
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Yeah, the Catwoman thing was... ... awkward. Not happy with that either. Or with an array of other things.
DC Comics: Bad at Math
Gail didn't want Barbara to stop being Oracle either but she was stuck with it, and she loves Barbara, so she is staying with the book. She and other folks at DC have been trying for some time to bring back beloved characters but it's been against a lot of weird editorial ... stuff. The powers that be at DC have been alienating creators a LOT since the reboot. There's an actual website called Has DC Done Something Stupid Today? devoted to keeping track of those and other, ah, missteps. There's been a LOT of poor, top-down, heavy-handed decisions at DC. (Some of the fleeing creators have gone to other companies, including Marvel and Image and Boom and others...)
I love Li'l Gotham myself. Reading them as the relevant holidays come out. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Harley Quinn seems to be a bit more like her old self (and less... unclothed) in a new series by Palmiotti and Conner, which is on my "get when I can list" because of the creative team.
I enjoy some books in the current DCU, but it's really in spite of what I see as a pretty nasty Elseworlds universe, and I cannot wait for the next reboot, ideally after regime change.
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Brenda Clough
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That's the other infuriating thing. The constant reboots. At any given moment you know that what you are reading is written on sand at low tide. It becomes easier to say, gosh, let me skip the next five reboots and see if it improves.
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And even worse, when what started as an independent story, exploring some idea or other, deliberately outside the continuity (such as Kingdom Come, with its grim look at the fascism inherent in the superhero concept, or the visionary 1990's Starman) end up being co-opted into the continuity, and inevitably misunderstood and generally ruined as a result.
Basically, as Keith Giffen has argued with some vehemence, continuity is a bad thing and should be discouraged. What's wrong with bit of imagination?
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As an infrequent visitor to the comic universe I am wondering if the dissatisfaction with the current DC/Marvel is a variation of the maxim that the Golden Age of Science Fiction is 12.
Are these Comics aimed at adults who don't find them satisfactory? Are there substantial younger readers or are they all off watching Adventure Time?
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It is MrP who is the comics fan in this household, but we recently went to see the Comics exhibition at the British Library and were very disappointed. The basic problem, I think, is that it completely ducked the question of defining "comics", so the contents seemed rather random. I had expected more historical stuff (mostly because it's what I would do with all the resources of the British Library at my disposal), but there was one Cruikshank print and that was pretty much it. Oh and John Dee's book, which was fascinating but I still don't understand why it was there. (Or the cheap paperbacks of Lovecraft.)
MrP had expected far more original artwork, rather than just books displayed at an angle, so that it was not easy to read them. There was very little discussion of the artwork and none of why one might choose this way of telling a story. We were also bemused by the number of models in Guy Fawkes masks standing around. The whole thing felt aimed at those wanting to be seen to be trendy rather than true comics fans who already knew the stuff.
Glad to see I'm not the only person who was disappointed with that exhibition. I'm not really into comics, so did think I might have missed the point: but clearly not. Frankly I thought that it was a disgrace that the BL had devoted so much time and space to an exhibition which seemed designed merely to flatter its curators' sense of their own hipness.
BTW intrigued by a reference upthread to Captain Midlands. This surely must be Marvin's alter ego, mustn't it?
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Figbash
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Originally posted by Palimpsest:
As an infrequent visitor to the comic universe I am wondering if the dissatisfaction with the current DC/Marvel is a variation of the maxim that the Golden Age of Science Fiction is 12.
Are these Comics aimed at adults who don't find them satisfactory? Are there substantial younger readers or are they all off watching Adventure Time?
Well, let's start by observing that that maxim was almost certainly stated by somebody who had never actually read any SF. I suspect that very few 12 year olds would find Ubik or The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch or Solaris or Roadside Picnic especially satisfying.
Some parts of DC, particularly the egregious Dan Didio, are clearly in pursuit of the elusive teen reader, and seem reluctant to admit that the older readers form a substantial market and have more disposable income. Indeed, DC's recent actions with VERTIGO, it's deliberately adult-oriented imprint, which seem to be aimed at essentially winding it down, and transferring kid-friendly versions of its more popular lines to DC, would suggest this.
But, as I have said above, we have to remember that both of the big two are now owned by movie studios, who are in pursuit of the elusive teenaged male demographic. Hence fewer ideas, less interesting characterisation, more fights, more big muscles and big boobs.
On the other hand, other publishers, particularly Image and 2000AD, seem to have no trouble positioning themselves as aimed squarely at adult readers. Image happily combine standard superhero books with complex adult friendly books (check out the splendid Alex and Ada, running at the moment, which has no fights, no action scenes, and nothing at all in the way of unduly overstated anatomy, and is basically all talk) as well as utterly deranged books (like the immensely successful Bomb Queen franchise) that carry explicit age warnings, and out and out pornography like Howard Chaykin's The Black Kiss 2. 2000AD seem to have entirely given up on the teenaged market, and haven't compromised an inch of darkness or complexity.
So, in summary, DC (in particular) used to encourage thoughtful, adult oriented stories even in its headline books, so they were happy to explore the ethics of Superman's reign of good, or the question of Bruce Wayne's sanity, or to just let Grant Morrison do whatever it was he felt like doing this week. Since 2011 they have rejected this.
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Brenda Clough
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I am in my 50s, and somehow DC has contrived to alienate me, after 45 years of happy comics reading. That does take some doing.
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ChastMastr
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I am in my 50s, and somehow DC has contrived to alienate me, after 45 years of happy comics reading. That does take some doing.
Oh, I've had it happen to me before. Marvel alienated me during that whole Civil War era, but they've gotten good again, and I'm sure DC will too. It may require regime change at DC, though.
(I'm 46, myself, and have been reading comics ever since at least the age of... six? Seven?)
I do heartily recommend the titles I listed above--if you note, many are not part of the New 52 DC universe.
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The only Nu52 book I thought was even remotely worth reading, i.e. Larfleeze, the suits at DC have, with typical brilliance, cancelled. I have hopes for Justice League 3000, as it too is a product of the magic pairing of Giffen / DeMattheis, but then I suspect Didio will cancel it too.
Otherwise, the Nu52 is, well, pretty lousy. Supergirl with a costume that has a nice useful arrow pointing to the important bits? Power Girl as a man mad moron whose greatest regret is that she can't get a tattoo? Harley Quinn straight? Bah.
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Brenda Clough
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No, it sounds repugnant. And as I say, the constant rebooting means it is easy to sit it out.
The other irritant is the constant crossovers and Mega Events of the Summer. If one bails out of those, then that again prunes the list down drastically.
Did anyone here read and enjoy the original Batman Adventures comic books? They were loosely based upon the cartoon series, and they were stellar. They got Paul Dini his start.
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Did anyone here read and enjoy the original Batman Adventures comic books? They were loosely based upon the cartoon series, and they were stellar. They got Paul Dini his start.
Oh yes: they, and the follow-ups, were absolutely splendid - AND they gave Dr Quinn her start in the DCU too.
I don't know if you've seen, but Dini has recently done a Zatanna / Black Canary adventure which is absolutely definitely set in the old DCU...
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Is anyone else a LSH fan? I've been following the group since Adventure days, through the various titles they have had. Having been buggered about by some eccentric creators, as well as by being tied in to changes in the DC Universe that should have been irrelevant, the real LSH was finally back in the capable hands of Paul Levitz. And then it got cancelled - so what now?
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I definitely enjoyed Keith Giffen's adventures with the Legion, though that might count as eccentric However, as you say, whenever he appeared to be getting anywhere interesting, along came DC Central with another 'event' forcing everything to reboot, so one moment we were dealing with the rather interesting 'what happened when they grew up?' story-line, and the next moment they're all teenagers again, and Matter Eater Lad is a . . . chef???
You'd have thought being 1000 years in the future would make them immune from this crap.
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Originally posted by Figbash:
Well, let's start by observing that that maxim was almost certainly stated by somebody who had never actually read any SF. I suspect that very few 12 year olds would find Ubik or The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch or Solaris or Roadside Picnic especially satisfying.
I was reading Heinlein's Glory Road at 11 and Asimov, Clarke, and at 12 when the library would finally let me check out stuff in the YA room. I didn't get to Man in the High Castle till I was fourteen. Ubik wasn't published till later. I do remember my 8th grade English Class being dismayed by being assigned "Lord of the Rings" but I had other readers to talk to even then.
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Brenda Clough
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Yes, one of the first comic books I ever read was the (first) death of Lightning Lad. The LSH in the glory days was a wonderful thing. But it hasn't been anywhere near as good in decades.
You have a title for the Dini Zatanna? Is it part of an ongoing series?n
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ChastMastr
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The Dini Zatanna/BC story is a one-shot, alas.
Love Legion, though I did not like Five Years Later as I found it too grim.
I do like DeMatteis so I am getting his stuff. I have mixed feelings about Giffen's current output.
The stuff in the New 52 I recommend is listed above.
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You have a title for the Dini Zatanna? Is it part of an ongoing series?n
It's Bloodspell and, though a bit light on story, is very sound on proper characterisation and remembering that 'heroes' are, in fact, people too. And not a breath of New 52 in sight.
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Figbash: quote:
I definitely enjoyed Keith Giffen's adventures with the Legion, though that might count as eccentric [Smile]
NOOOOOO!!!!! His makeover was hideous, depressing and nonsensical. Giffen didn't just knife the Legion in the back, he danced on the grave as well.
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I definitely enjoyed Keith Giffen's adventures with the Legion, though that might count as eccentric [Smile]
NOOOOOO!!!!! His makeover was hideous, depressing and nonsensical. Giffen didn't just knife the Legion in the back, he danced on the grave as well.
That's what I liked about it. It was complex. And messy. And somewhat chaotic. And dark as hell. And not even remotely escapist. And had a wonderful conclusion to Giffen's ongoing remaking of Darkseid as a tragic hero.
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And dark as hell. And not even remotely escapist.
Alas, to me, those are things which the Legion (as well as a lot of characters in DC's New 52) just should not be. We'll probably just have to disagree there...
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such as Kingdom Come, with its grim look at the fascism inherent in the superhero concept
As a side note, from reading what Mark Waid has said about it, I'm quite sure that was not at all about any kind of fascism being inherent in the superhero idea (which he does not seem to believe--and nor do I), but specifically about the negative trends in comics in the 90s, especially over at Image but emulated by Marvel and DC.
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Am I being tangential or just geriatric when I recall the Amalgamated Press list of children's comics that we used to get out here until WW II dried up the supply? No more Chips, Rainbow, Playbox,and all the others. No more Tiger Tim, Wendy and her magic carpet, or Brighteyes who was always being captured, bound and gagged by Gypsy Meg.
As a mere 81-year old I should hope others of my generation might remember also.
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They may well have dried up in the UK as well. The post-war titles I remember were Beano, Dandy, Topper, Wizard, Adventure, Rover and, of course! the one and only Eagle. It was all very gendered, with girls' comics like Girl, Swift and Bunty - which I despised as someone who didn't do soppy. Which is not to say I wouldn't read a friend's copy avidly. But then I read everything avidly in those days. I credit the Wizard and Adventure particularly - one half page b/w drawing to two or three pages of close text - for the fact that I am a lightening reader to this day.
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Someone just mentioned Alan Moore and Neil Gaiman collaborating and I had a mini-geekgasm and felt sad that I'd never really been into comics (I've read V for Vendetta, League of..., Watchmen, Sandman, Loads of Neil G novels etc.)
I shall aim for open eyes from here on in.
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No more Chips, Rainbow, Playbox,and all the others. No more Tiger Tim, Wendy and her magic carpet, or Brighteyes who was always being captured, bound and gagged by Gypsy Meg.
Chips turned up in the late Sixties, as part of a double comic - Whizzer and Chips. They were printed together with Chips as the centrefold, so you could pull it out if you wanted. I used to get this every week.
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The post-war titles I remember were Beano, Dandy, Topper, Wizard, Adventure, Rover and, of course! the one and only Eagle. It was all very gendered, with girls' comics like Girl, Swift and Bunty - which I despised as someone who didn't do soppy.
Yes. Beano and Dandy I enjoyed. I wasn't too keen on Bunty but used to get that occasionally. The girl next door was an avid reader of Twinkle but then she was younger than me. One of the things I did like, though, were the cut-out paper dolls with the cut-out dresses and accessories that you could dress them up in. My mother used to buy women's magazines regularly and one of them usually had a page aimed at the reader's young daughter with more cut-out dolls.
I did find girls' stories disappointing, though. The adventures were rarely as good as the ones the boys had. But I can remember politely looking through Eagle at someone's house and not liking it very much - way too macho.
In the Seventies there were magazines like Jackie which my then best-friend, also named Jackie, loved to read, but they seemed to be mostly about boys and makeup and were too girly by half. The hand-drawn comic illustrations had given way to photo illustrations which made them less of a comic and a bit more realistic. Until you read the speech bubbles, of course.
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The girls' comics always seemed to feature characters who donned hooded robes and then darted about their boarding school doing good. The boys' had a post-nuclear Britain populated by giant mutants or a 200-year-old 4 minute miler. The Eagle was terrifically wholesome: the square-jawed heroes always had a loyal sidekick (I fancy this was the identity figure for the reader) - and frequently a third, comic one, for you to feel superior to.
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And dark as hell. And not even remotely escapist.
Alas, to me, those are things which the Legion (as well as a lot of characters in DC's New 52) just should not be. We'll probably just have to disagree there...
Agreed Chast. Also, it was incoherent. Having struggled through a dozen issues, and so given it time to prove itself, I was forced to conclude that Giffen-world was never going to make sense.
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I took to Dylan Dog horror comics when trying to learn Italian. It is hard to get in Italian in Australia, so I hope to get some more on my next trip.
As I boy I read Dan Dare in the Eagle comics and it sparked my interest in the solar system. I also read Peanuts books and bought The Dandy
I leave copies of For Better or For Worse collections in the guest room. I put Gary Larson's The Curse of Madame "C" there as well.
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Brenda Clough
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I see, rather belatedly, that there is a new volume of LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLMEN out this past season. Alas, it sounds uninteresting. Has anyone read it?
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Firenze - that sounds like the Silent Three, from Schoolfriend, creeping around in robes at boarding school - it was my mum's favourite!
My favourite was Valda, from Mandy, who was more or less immortal and got her energy from holding a crystal up to the sun. I suppose she was the first superhero I ever came across.
During school terms, I used to read June and Schoolfriend, and sometimes Mandy and Bunty, because mum considered them 'suitable'. On holidays I could use my pocket money to buy whatever I liked, so I usually went for Valiant - I liked Captain Hurricane and all the Second World War stuff.
My little sister had Twinkle and we cut out and kept every single one of those dolls in national costume from round the world!
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SQUEEEEEE!
Have ya seen the new Batgirl? ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif) ![[Axe murder]](graemlins/lovedrops.gif)
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But what are the stories like? (I hope she is not wearing stiletto heels.)
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Co-writer Brenden Fletcher added their take incorporates "mixes the best elements of 'Veronica Mars' and 'Girls,' with a dash of 'Sherlock' thrown in for good measure."
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Co-writer Brenden Fletcher added their take incorporates "mixes the best elements of 'Veronica Mars' and 'Girls,' with a dash of 'Sherlock' thrown in for good measure."
I am so in.
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I think the new Batgirl looks pretty good, too - I'll be looking out for it.
And yesterday I treated myself to Sally Heathcote, Suffragette, by Mary and Bryan Talbot and Kate Charlesworth, which tells the story of the suffragette movement through one person. It's been fascinating so far, because I've been finding out about some Manchester history that I had no idea of, though I grew up there.
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I love stuff like that-- must look it up.
Like weird history tidbits? try the "big Book series (the Big Book of Hoaxes, The Big Book or Weirdos, the Big Book of Conspiracy Theories, etc.)They are these huge books of one-off strips by very talented comic artists- good way to get to know some indie stars.
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ChastMastr
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SQUEEEEEE!
Have ya seen the new Batgirl?
I am excited about it--sad that Gail is leaving (creative differences with the prior editor), but she also thinks it is a good direction, and praises the new editor and new creative team and direction. The backstory about what happened is here.
And Gail MAY be doing Secret Six next, which would be AWESOME.
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our dear departed ken was a marvel man, as well.
Dad actually identified as more of a DC fan, though there was plenty of Marvel he read and enjoyed. If he'd had to pick a camp, though, it would have been t'other.
I'm mostly a Marvel girl, though if DC were to come to their senses and start up a subscription service I'd doubtless get more into it. Also, of course, a lot of the less-universey stuff I love was published by DC - all the Gaiman and Moore business. Plus I am mad in love with Gail Simone's Wonder Woman reboot.
Marvel, though, is my main bag - I adore Marvel Unlimited, and wouldn't have read a fraction of what I have without it.
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Here it is, Batman Day, and this thread is getting no comments???? What is up with that?
Happy 75th, Caped Crusader.
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Happy birthday, dear Batman! Happy birthday to you!
It is frightening to contemplate how much of the furniture of my imagination is derived from comic books, especially Batman. I can go through my oeuvre and spot it everywhere. All of my heroes, without exception are crime fighters of one sort or another.
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ChastMastr - I somehow missed this thread, but found your comics tumblr. Thought I'd better join in!
Happy Batman Day indeed - I haven't read that many of the comics but love Batman and the main DC world generally, and am trying to read more. I love the Arkham Asylum: A Serious House On Serious Earth graphic novel (amazing!) and really enjoyed the vampire Batman non-canon storyline. I am eh on much of the New 52 stuff though, and miss Birds of Prey and Oracle!Barbara - the Arkham video game continuity is much more my thing at the moment (I don't have the hand-eye coordination to play but I love watching walkthroughs on youtube ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif) ).
Ariel - Jackie magazine was named after Jacqueline Wilson, who worked for the magazine when it was launched.
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ArachnidinElmet
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Not even Batman can spend all his time saving the world. Happy (belated) Batman Day
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LeRoc
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I'm not really into comics. The only one I like is Astérix.
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Hedgehog
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Yesterday's issue of Batman Beyond Universe just finished up its "Justice Lords Beyond" storyline--and I have to admit that it was a far more satisfying ending than I expected. There were several nice subtleties to it. Other people besides Bruce Wayne have donned the Batman name, but I don't think any have caught my imagination quite so much as Terry McGinnis.
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ChastMastr
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And for me--as someone who loathes the New 52 as a universe (individual books in it are good but they are exceptions that stand out against a pretty awful backdrop)--the Beyond book gives me at least a taste of the "real" heroes, even though it's in the future. I haven't read the latest issue yet but I'd like to think that WW stays and we get something resembling the "real" WW to read on a regular basis--though Sensation Comics should help with that too.
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Bumping for Wood!
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
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Wood
The Milkman of Human Kindness
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O hai.
Comics, eh? OK then.
For me, it's mainly the Europeans, Moebius and Bilal. Frezzato. Gimenez. Those guys. Asterix. Valerian. And Laureline.
As a teenager, I read 2000AD loads. Also Elfquest. Love Elfquest (yes, the did find the cosmic palace/starship). I have a liking for 1970s Marvel comics, but have a strong dislike of "dark" superheroes.
I suppose that I shall have to tell you about Transhuman Resources at some point.
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