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Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Welcome the new year in... At least back home.
Here, vacationing in the US, I still am in 2013, but my fellow Aussies and others are well into 2014... I was watching some of the news reports. Fireworks, celebrations, fire, cyclone, heat - you folk have it all.
Life continues to be fun. I do enjoy long service leave... Very relaxed and happy. And cold. And surrounded by loving extended family...
Happy New Year to those back home.
Happy new thread!
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Happy New Year all in the Antipodes.
If you haven't seen it, can I recommend Gardening with Soul, a lovely film that follows Sister Loyola of the Sisters of Mercy in Island Bay through her 90th year. Went to see it with a friend and my mum last week, and we all loved it.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Goodbye 2013 and hello 2014.
Bound to be both bouncy and bumpy in Banner land, but somehow we'll cope. Having New Year's Day lunch with an 84 yr old and a 95 yr old, today, Neither of whom hold back their opinions, so I guess I'm bound to learn a lot.
HNY shippies, and be kind to yourselves.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Happy New Year to all, including Rowen living in the past.
Great night last night. The new production is interesting and makes the transition well. But we still have fond memories of the 1980s production. Slowly getting ourselves together, but have an 11 o'clock checkout.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Happy New Year to all.
If you took a couple of double shots of coffee to get moving this morning, then you might enjoy this, Coffeedoxy and heterodoxy
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Happy New Year to all my chums Down Under!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thanks Piglet - is it yet 1 Jan right across Canada? I get lost with the daylight saving changes and so forth.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Not quite - it's 2:45 a.m. here in Newfoundland, so it'll still be yesterday in Alberta and British Columbia, if you see what I mean.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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We have just heard that M, my 9 year old granddaughter was admitted to hospital this morning. She has not been well for several weeks. Tests are being done and hopefully we will know something soon.
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on
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Loth, feel free to have an easier year this year.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Loved the link, Loth.
(I seem to have begun 2014 all alliteratively around All Saints. )
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
We have just heard that M, my 9 year old granddaughter was admitted to hospital this morning. She has not been well for several weeks. Tests are being done and hopefully we will know something soon.
Bad news. Hospital is 99% sure it's leukaemia. She will have spinal tap, brain fluid drain, lumbar puncture, bone marrow puncture tomorrow under general anaesthetic to see which type of leukaemia it is.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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((M, Loth & family))
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
We have just heard that M, my 9 year old granddaughter was admitted to hospital this morning. She has not been well for several weeks. Tests are being done and hopefully we will know something soon.
Bad news. Hospital is 99% sure it's leukaemia. She will have spinal tap, brain fluid drain, lumbar puncture, bone marrow puncture tomorrow under general anaesthetic to see which type of leukaemia it is.
Lothlorien
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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(((Loth))) for Grand-daughter
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Oh Lothlorien -
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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My prayers
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Loth – you and yours could have done without more grief.
Prayers for whatever can be positive in the outcome.
GG
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Lothlorien and family
Huia
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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for you and your grand-daughter, Lothlorien.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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That is very sad news Lothlorien. Our prayers for you, your grand-daughter and those treating her.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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An article by a psychologist struck a chord.
His take on 'S*** happens; misery is optional' continues: '[events] can cause pressure, but such factors don't cause stress unless you let them... Stress is how you react to the event, not the event itself.'
I don't presume to offer this as a panacea to shipmates who may have problems that I couldn't handle, but it made sense to me; in fact, I think it illustrates how I have been trying to cope in our situation. Even the Grandad, when things get on top of him, tries to make the best of it with our quote 'It's an adventure'.
GG
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on
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Loth, I am so sorry
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on
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Lothlorien, I don't know what to say. Childhood cancer is horrendous. I do pray for M, her family and you as you deal with yet another horrible life event.
[ 01. January 2014, 22:15: Message edited by: Athrawes ]
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Loth, prayers for you and your granddaughter an the whole family are banging the gates of heaven!
If you are willing to give me her name, either on main screen or in a message, I will add her name to the community prayer list.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thank You. PM sent.
She is having platelets transfused this morning as blood clotting ability is far too low. We don 't yet know when the general anaesthetic will be for the other procedures, just that she is on the emergency list.
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Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Loth, prayers for you, M and the whole family.
Posted by Alban (# 9047) on
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Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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Praying for you and your family Lothlorien.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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oh, Loth, my dear friend! Many prayers for you.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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It's Acute Lymphoblastic Leukaemia, the one the doctors say is easier to treat and the one with a higher rate of remission. A week in hospital on steroids, then chemo and more tests. No hair in three weeks. Some treatment out of hospital and continuing testing and treatment for a couple of years.
So a new way of life starts for her and family.
[ 02. January 2014, 06:38: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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The nude head look is so in these days. But if not,then perhaps a nice curly bubblegum wig will do wonders for morale. Or not. Grandma should consult with the person most affected.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Constant prayers, Loth, for you and for M and her family.
GG
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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My prayers join those of others. Loth, could you PM me a name, too, please, so I can add her to the prayers of my cathedral?
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thank you, Zappa. We all appreciate the prayers and concern for her. PM sent.
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Posted by jugular (# 4174) on
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Happy New Year to youse all. I spent it making pizzas, baking pizzas and eating pizzas. Start as you intend to continue, I say.
Loth, Leukaemia sucks balls and I hope your little one is OK. I have asked the Blessed Virgin to intercede on her behalf because I am no good at praying for people myself.
I'll be in Sydney next week at NCYC if anyone will be there too, or is around Parramatta way.
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on
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Hiya all.
for Loth and the kiddlywink. Awful stuff.
Trashed my poor little heart in 2013. Learned a lot, too. Here's to better days. And much better decisions.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Loth and family
DK
Day at the cricket today with Biggest, enjoying a corp box at invitation of Biggest's rep team coach. It's quite amusing when 8 fifteen year old boys start sprouting about the game.
Rest day tomorrow then cricket next 4 out of 5 days. And loving it!
mr curly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Results were hardly in from all the tests and granddaughter was receiving first dose of steroids. Doctors are quietly optimistic about final outcome, but that will be a couple of years down the track, even if all goes very well indeed. More chemo every Friday and other medications at other various times.
She is good friends with another little girl at school who is emerging out the other end of this journey so that's good. Westmead sends nurses and educators to the school to explain to students and staff what is going on, why the baldness etc.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Loth & family, Very sorry to hear about it, I can't imagine what a bastard of a thing it must be to go through. My understanding though is that rates of cure are excellent for childhood leukaemia so there is cause for optimism.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Lothlorien and family, I've put you on my list above the computer, next to my cousin and a good friend who both have leukaemia. Your little one is in wonderful company (my cousin has added her to her prayer list as well), and I hope all goes well.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Evangeline:
Loth & family, Very sorry to hear about it, I can't imagine what a bastard of a thing it must be to go through. My understanding though is that rates of cure are excellent for childhood leukaemia so there is cause for optimism.
Doctors are optimistic about this. Rate of total remission of ALL is 98%. I won't let my mind think about the other 2%.
Thanks Arabella. Support of many types has poured in from everywhere. My son is amazed at it.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Hi Loth, I lit an candle for your grand-daugjter and family during our church service today (we do it as part of our prayers for the world) so there will probably be other prayers floating up from other people in the congregation.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
Hi Loth, I lit an candle for your grand-daugjter and family during our church service today (we do it as part of our prayers for the world) so there will probably be other prayers floating up from other people in the congregation.
Huia
All prayers appreciated. Thanks. She ate 8 corn chips today, the most food she's had in a day for quite a while. She is now on a drip but has not been eating much at all before that. Drip should ensure she loses no more.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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We lit one also at an icon of Our Lady, the most blessed of mothers, presenting the Infant to us; a prayer for your grand-daughter.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I have just had one of the best days in years I went swimming in a river which I haven't done since I was a child. It was magic, one of those experiences you store up to recall when difficult times come and, to quote Shaun Tan, Life is a deaf machine. (The Red Tree).
Huia - blissed out
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Well done. Sad to say I've never got the notion of swimming in NZ, as the water never even approximates tolerable temperatures. Fortunately my local pool is heated.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Years ago we took a friend from Auckland to Palm Beach in mid-July. He swam for almost half an hour and commented it was warmer in the water than it ever was in Auckland.
We watched from the car as we sheltered from the wind.
Miss M has her first dose of chemo on Friday. Depending on the reaction to this, she could be allowed home late on Friday or perhaps Saturday.
She is the third little girl at her school to have developed leukaemia. The others are almost finished treatment.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Prayers continuing for you and M, Lothlorien.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Ah Loth, the pain goes on and on, doesn't it. My prayers are with you and you family as well as your little one.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Ditto.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Prayers continuing.
-21 c in Athens, Ohio today. Windchill -25.
Just a tad chilly, what!
My travel diary... Travelling adventures
Oh, but I am having a lovely holiday!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by James the Confident:
Ah Loth, the pain goes on and on, doesn't it. My prayers are with you and you family as well as your little one.
Thanks to all for the prayers. We feel as if we have been catapulted in less than a week into a totally different world.
First chemo session is on Friday, regardless of other things.
Yesterday she developed pancreatitis, no obvious cause, and has morphine through her central line for that.
Scan of heart muscle to be used as a marker in the future showed up a hole in the heart. She's always been very active so it hasn't caused a problem in the past. It will be treated by keyhole surgery if need be, but they are leaving it for the moment.
Pages and pages of info on all the drugs, our heads are swimming.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Firmly ensconced on the cathedral prayer list
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thank you. It's a long windy road ahead.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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On my prayer list here as well.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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And here - poor wee lass.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Poor little M. Prayers for her and all her family, especially Gran.
Posted by comet (# 10353) on
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poor baby! on our list as well.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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For the second night in a row, we've lit the fire. At the beach! In January!
Back to Sydney tomorrow, then out early on Friday morning to the real cold in Vienna. We shall pack for that, whereas neither of us put in woollen jumpers for this break.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Continuing prayers for your little one Loth. Chemo can be a hard road but it is not without its success. Among all the bad news I hear in my oncology ward I also hear much that is good.
Work is ongoing. Ten years ago 45% of cancer patients survived, now it is up to 65% in only ten years and research is continuing apace.
On another note, I'm in love! After 21 years of being single again I have met the woman of my dreams and it all came about through the grace of God.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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What lovely news to share James all the very best, God is indeed good.
BTW, rates of survival in childhood leukemia are PTL, much higher than 65%, it really is an area of medicine that has progressed at an amazing rate over the last 20 years. for all undergoing treatment for cancer, particularly Loth's grandaughter.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Evangeline:
What lovely news to share James all the very best, God is indeed good.
BTW, rates of survival in childhood leukemia are PTL, much higher than 65%, it really is an area of medicine that has progressed at an amazing rate over the last 20 years. for all undergoing treatment for cancer, particularly Loth's grandaughter.
Doctors are optimistic of a very good outcome for her. I am keeping the tiny rate of those who don't survive firmly out of my mind.
Little Miss M will be in hospital till Friday at least. More medication through the week and chemo every Friday afternoon. She tolerated the first dose quite well. Another blood transfusion yesterday and more platelets. She looks wonderful after the transfusion but the effect wears off fairly rapidly. She played Monopoly with her dad yesterday and was beating him till she suddenly fell asleep in the middle of her turn.
Have her siblings this week here. It's been a tough time on them too. Have forgotten the tricks for dealing with a just fifteen year old boy, but I suppose they may return if needed.
James, what lovely news!
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Good on you, JTC - just keep those positive vibes heading in the direction of Lothlorien and her grand-daughter!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Little Miss M came through the first chemo session quite well. However doctors are still concerned about the pancreatitis developing so strongly so soon. Her blood sugar levels are also elevated, almost to the point of needing insulin. This is possibly a side effect of her other treatment but is being watched closely.
We certainly don't want to have diabetes in the mix as well and hope they can pinpoint the cause quickly.
Hopefully she will be released in a few days, although she will need to return regularly for chemo and testing along with other treatments as needed.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Is she on steroids? Steroid induced diabetes is quite common but I believe is easily treated.
Thanks for the good wishes. I feel like an 18 year old, I am MUCH older than that.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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James – blessings on your new-found love.
Loth – we had prayer candles this morning so I lit one for your granddaughter. May all those procedures do their work well.
GG
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thank you , yes she is on steroids but they are surprised at the levels.
We all appreciate the prayers, whatever form they come in.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Preaching in one hour forty.
Well thought out, just not on paper yet.
Typing fast.
mr curly
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by James the Confident:
On another note, I'm in love! After 21 years of being single again I have met the woman of my dreams and it all came about through the grace of God.
Believe me - returns to love can be most wondrously redemptive.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Best wishes JtC and thanks of sharing this with us. Prayers continuing for your grand-daughter Lothlorien. We shall light candles for her this morning both in St Stephen and Christ Church.
Posted by ecumaniac (# 376) on
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Hi everyone, I'm still in England (haven't been deported Yet!)
Hope to be a bit more active on the ship this year.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by James the Confident:
... I feel like an 18 year old ...
Well, you can't have one.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Originally posted by piglet:
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Originally posted by James the Confident:
... I feel like an 18 year old ...
Well, you can't have one.
What's that old joke about you're only as old as the woman you feel?
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Originally posted by piglet:
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Originally posted by James the Confident:
... I feel like an 18 year old ...
Well, you can't have one.
Congratulations, anyway, James.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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As of today, I have 21 books for sale on amazon. (Link below)
Now to sell some!
mr curly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Someone dropped in unexpectedly for dinner.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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What have I learned so far this January? Hmmm...I now know how to make ghast, enderman and creeper decorations - Thanks to B1.2's 8th birthday party at Chez Banner. Minecraft themed for those wondering.
I have created a pattern for a knitted ball, despite being a non-knitter and being told this was not possible. (Long story).
I have begun collecting family stories to write a "fictorical" account of our often hilarious history. Learning much as I go - including what my dad really did during the war.
Designwork on various things continues, including a workspace for me, and I am about to head off to a Lay Ministry Conference for the next few days where I hope to learn what the future might hold for BL for the rest of the year. I'll let you know how that goes next week.
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
...and I am about to head off to a Lay Ministry Conference for the next few days where I hope to learn what the future might hold for BL for the rest of the year. I'll let you know how that goes next week.
Is that the "Bringing Sydney to Canberra-Goulburn" party up at the Big House?
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Vulpior, you may very well think that, but I couldn't possibly comment...
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Vulpior, you may very well think that, but I couldn't possibly comment...
I've had one of those speakers in my house many years ago when he was lead singer for In the Silence. Definitely not silent. Eldest son retrieved a pile of data for them from a dead computer when he was still at school.
Not as straight down the party line all the time as Vulpior may think.
Posted by Silver Swan (# 17957) on
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Hello! I'm from Australia, so I thought I'd check in. I've been looking in here for years, from time to time, ever since my father in law passed away and someone pointed out comments here. His name was Geoffrey Bingham; some may remember him.
I'm not much of an anyone and I agonise over every comment and comma, so I'm not likely to be a prolific poster.
God bless you all
Peace.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Welcome Silver Swan, enjoy the voyage. I have sent you a private message.
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on
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Welcome Swan,
At least one shipmate attended the funeral for your FIL.
Enjoy your time on board.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Welcome Silver Swan - good to have another poster from New Zealand's largest off-shore island I hope you enjoy your voyage.
Huia
Posted by Silver Swan (# 17957) on
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Thanks for the welcome. I hope not too many move away from me on the bench at mention of my FIL. Is it better that I don't also mention that I ran away to Nimbin and was a full blown hippy for 25 years until my conversion in 1997? Shrug. By the grace of God, I am what I am. Poor, wretched, blind, but safe in God's hand.
I don't get to church often, so I hope for some fellowship on the ship.
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Vulpior, you may very well think that, but I couldn't possibly comment...
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Not as straight down the party line all the time as Vulpior may think.
Don't mind me, I'm just a simple ex-evangelical with a massive chip on my shoulder...
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Hi Silver Swan. I'm not far from the most easterly point, and I was part of the Christian counter culture, aka the Jesus movement. A friend has a place in Tuntable Falls.
Welcome aboard.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Don't mind me, I'm just a simple ex-evangelical with a massive chip on my shoulder...
I could probably join you in that quote. Said person or Dr is associated with Ancient History Department at Macquarie Uni, a department top heavy with Christians with impressive academic qualifications. The influence there and of associated Society for Study of Early Christianity tones down other things.
You probably have seen ex-head of the department, Alana Nobbs at SJKS where her husband was a reader, I think. I think they have moved on from there on her retirement. I'm out of reliable touch these days.
[ 17. January 2014, 00:47: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Welcome aboard, Silver Swan. I was a student of Geoff Bingham at ABI in 1973. He changed my life! I flew to Adelaide for his funeral, because he had made such a lasting impact on me. Wonderful man.
Enjoy the Ship :-)
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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Welcome Aboard Silver Swan.
Nice to see nother Strine around.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Welcome Silver Swan. I hope you find the voyage lives up to your expectations.
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Welcome to the Ship, Silver Swan - don't worry yourself about posting, most of us don't bite (well, not too hard, and definitely not on first greeting!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Silver Swan:
I hope not too many move away from me on the bench at mention of my FIL.
Ooh - an Arlo Guthrie allusion? Oh ... and some of us share in your experience of fathers-in-law with whom we don't necessary want to be identified - however much we respected, loved or not them personally, we ain't them. I had a reasonably well known one, too. And I met yours. And mine knew yours. And so on.
At any rate, welcome. Enjoy the cruise.
[ 18. January 2014, 08:14: Message edited by: Zappa ]
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Welcome to Silver Swan.... Life is good on the Ship.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Little Miss M came home from hospital late yesterday afternoon after more chemo to make up for a missed dose when she was having other tests done.
Home from hospital is a bit of a euphemism. At least she had her own bed. Four visits to oncology clinic in next six day at her home away from home.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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I'd imagine that being home, even for a little while, will be good for her. Hope next week's clinic visits go well.
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Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Good Loth. I hope she is coping well.
Romance via the internet is hard work--but worth it!
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Continuing prayers for the young lass.
GG
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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I enjoyed the shindig up at the big house despite 3 days of 39 degree heat. I renewed lots of acquaintances and got to see the new Metropolitan in action. Interesting to be able to see some of the backstage stuff happening too. How come I have never heard of the Centre for Public Christianity before? Is it entirely Sydney-centric?
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Little Miss M came home from hospital late yesterday afternoon after more chemo to make up for a missed dose when she was having other tests done.
Home from hospital is a bit of a euphemism. At least she had her own bed. Four visits to oncology clinic in next six day at her home away from home.
Well, that didn't last long. She spiked a very high temperature in middle of the night and has been re-admitted. I'll have her elder sister here all week.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Little Miss M and family
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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indeed.
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Posted by Alban (# 9047) on
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Any kiwis feel that little shake this afternoon? Glad it wasn't overnight, I'd popped a heavy sculpture on a shelf above my bed as a bookend, 'twas resting on my pillow afterwards - it survived, but would've hurt had my head been there. Nothing broken, but I think some cracks in the house have grown. Not a patch on what Huia's been through, but unnerving nonetheless.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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A reasonable wobble although neither I nor the kuruzapplets felt it.
Kuruman felt a bit of a wobble. One friend in Palmerston North, slightly further from the epicentre than we are, described it as the biggest shake she'd ever felt in forty years in NZ. That's the serendipity of earthquakes.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Revise my previous: sounds like the epicentre was Ekatahuna, not Pongaroa or Castlepoint as originally reported. Therefore Palmerston North, which reports nasty shaking, was much closer than we are.
At any rate, quite deep, so far less damaging than Huia's wobbles.
Posted by Alban (# 9047) on
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In Palmerston North, hence my noting its wobbliness.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Others in Wellington appear to have felt much more than we did: a long rumble and then a slight tremor which didn't even send the lights swinging. Maybe because the house is on a 10-inch slab of reinforced concrete.
GG
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I didn't catch up with the news until this morning. Thinking of all of you up there with the wobbles. I think any size quake is probably scarier than it would have been in the past because we are more aware of how much worse it could be.
Alban the bed that I used to sleep in has a built in bookcase, which is now empty.
It's a reminder to me to top up my emergency supplies, especially water, which I had allowed to run down. I strongly suggest any tall bookcases or cupboards be braced in some way, mine are now attached to the wall.
Sorry to get all bossy like a public service announcement, but things could have been much worse for me if I had been in another room or had less caring neighbours.
Huia
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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We were just thankful that our drive through Ekatahuna was 60 minutes in the past when the earthquake hit.
We'd been up visiting my mum and sweltering in the sunshine while putting in an irrigation system with a timer for her.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Alban:
In Palmerston North, hence my noting its wobbliness.
Understood, then. Not much fun. I hope my old (now earth-quake closed anyway) church didn't suffer any further indignities. As Huia said, we all think much more realistically about the rusks* than we did pre- 2nd Christchurch.
I am awaiting the engineers' report on my new pad. Though it was built in the 1950s after the old one was reduced to rubble in '31, I fear there may be serious issues.
[*Edit: Kuruman thinks about rusks. That was risks. My accent must be Tasman shifting again]
[ 20. January 2014, 18:39: Message edited by: Zappa ]
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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What next can happen? With Miss M back in hospital, her older sister was to come to me for the last week of holidays. She went with her dad to friends for dinner in western Sydney.
On the way home he realised he needed a pump for airbed for her so called in at a KMart they were passing. Back to car which would not start. Rang a friend for a jumpstart. Nothing worked. Suspect a dead starter motor.
Rang NRMA who when told his address asked if he felt safe where he was. A far from salubrious part of Sydney with brawls and shootings regularly. He said his young daughter was with him and a service man arrived pronto. Dead starter motor and they had to push start car. In reverse.
Not a good thing. Big bang and either exhaust pipe has disconnected from manifold or has blown a hole. Very noisy. He left it parked up a hill so he could roll down this morning.
I think this Renault is at the end of its life. Rego due soon and other things wrong. However, he will speak to his mechanic and see what he suggest. He loves his renaults, as do I but the time has probably come... There's a diesel Golf in a car yard up the road which he likes.
They finally arrived well after midnight and we are all a bit sensitive this morning.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Oh dear,
Diesel is good
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Don't remember whether it was on TV or in conversation – someone pointed out that we've had so many reminders (on the media, leaflets etc) to secure furniture and take other quake-safe measures that if say an unsecured bookcase fell and caused damage, insurance could refuse a claim as one hadn't taken steps to prevent the damage. Looking around the room, I don't see much that we could secure: TV's on a trolley, books will fall off bookcase... I remember how in the 1942 Wairarapa quake, all my childhood library fell off their narrow built-in shelves, the cistern in the roof above tipped over and water dripped on them but not in huge quantities. Dad got up on the roof next day and pushed over the damaged chimney before it could fall on anyone. And the main school building was condemned, so after a few days of no school (we went to school only to get our apple and bottle of milk) we were taught in various church halls.
GG – brought up among earthquakes from early days in Murchison.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Loth, my eldest brother's first car was a Renault. Later on he had a diesel Golf which I really liked.
GG apparently Christchurch only gets a watered down version of those tv advertisements in case it stirs uncomfortable memories. I note that the mother of a baby killed by a falling wide screen tv is fronting one of them.
When I visited the family home (now sold ) it was the chimney that worried me. A friend and I demolished one of mine on the day of Sept 4, and a gang of retired blokes demolished the other after a strong aftershock. I may have jumped the queue because I was told it was teetering on the brink and would be demolished in 10 days, whereupon I totally lost it and sobbed, so the receptionist put me onto the boss who said, "We'll be round this arvo." Those blokes remain in my memory as some of the unsung quake heroes for responding to my terror.
Huia
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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B1 loves her diesel Golf, although her children are a bit sniffy about it. (Not cool enough, apparently ).
TP is disappearing our rickety old shed, bit by bit. For the last 20 years it has LOOKED like an earthquake must have damaged it, so I am seriously glad it is going. Need specialists to do the fibro asbestos, however, so not a cheap exercise. Sigh.
Meanwhile, the LandFillharmonic seems like an inspirational way to repurpose rubbish.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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A lot of the young people around there drive Golfs; not many diesels, mostly the faster models and usually black. They try to look like GTIs, which they can't drive on P plates. A Toyota is probably less likely to cause grief.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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We love our Continental cars around here and the family overall has had quite a variety.
Son had a diesel Golf some years ago but is now considering a diesel Renault Megane. Not very old and in good condition. A couple of guys at Hornsby service his Renaults. Genuine parts but cheaper labour and over many years have proved themselves trustworthy and hardworking. One will help him check out anything he is seriously considering.
Of course a Citroen DS would be nice but they are a bit long in the tooth now. I remember Dad's with nostalgia. It was one of the most comfortable cars I have been in.
I agree a Toyota would be cheaper and easier to service but son is extremely reluctant to even consider such a thing. He was told they drive well. His reply was they drive well in a straight line. I can understand. I do like accelerating into corners with a continental car and am totally accustomed to Renault body roll.
Miss M's blood tests come back today and then she has to have seven incident free days in hospital before they will consider another release. If there is an incident, the cycle starts again.
[ 21. January 2014, 21:34: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Prayers continuing for the little girl.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Yea and amen.
On the subject of continental cars, Newfoundland is notable for the almost total absence of French cars; the only ones I've seen here have Saint-Pierre & Miquelon plates (there are lots of them there). I've never seen a single Renault or Puegeot anywhere else here, or even a comedy Citroen Dyane.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Of course a Citroen DS would be nice but they are a bit long in the tooth now. I remember Dad's with nostalgia. It was one of the most comfortable cars I have been in.
Reminds me of travelling in France in 1989 or a few years later, when we were fascinated to see the DS automatically levelling itself as the passengers got out.
GG
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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They were fantastic for changing a tyre. Put it to highest level, slip jack underneath, lower gently and change tyre.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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And now, 58 years or so after they were first shown, they are still extremely elegant cars - the later ones with the extra smooth noses in particular. Somewhere I have a photo of a Robin Boyd house in the Victorian bush, with a DS parked in the carport (if a Boyd house had anything as prosaic as that). IIRC, Boyd himself also had one at some stage, between the US cars that he liked so much.
Soon leaving wonderful Wien. It's been cold, but not as much as we had expected. In fact, not much colder than Canberra often is. A bit of snow fell and we sat in our warm flat looking out at it gently settle on the knobbly bits and pieces of St Stephens. Shopping for some basic food items such as breakfast doings, tea and so forth had the usual effect of making us feel more part of the city than simply staying in an hotel. And having wild game of a quality and flavour lacking in the farmed ingredients on sale at home was as satisfying as always.
A sister says that we have missed some unpleasant heat and that there's actually been some rain over the last couple of days; she also says that Dog has shown no sign of missing us. Work calls though.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Diesel owner here - but it sure as hell ain't a little one.
Now we've unpacked all our goods (well "we" in an "I" sort of way, actually, as I sent Kuru and the kuruzapplets away to preserve all sanities!) I'll have to start securing. Not sure how to secure glassware in a display cabinet yet ...
But of course this town doesn't get earthquakes
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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But of course this town doesn't get earthquakes
Yeah right! Native of that town, who grew up with monthly earthquake drills, attended a big scientific conference on earthquakes in the 1970s (I think I was about 12, but my dad insisted), and still wonders when the next one will hit. I once went to a rehearsal in the old Cathedral hall (now gone to make way for parking), which was a red sticker building if ever there was. During the rehearsal there was an earthquake, and you have never seen people move so fast to protect themselves and their instruments.
Must pay you a visit when I'm next up.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Do!
My predecessor suffered hugely for the eradication of that hall - it was a good call.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Another diesel driver here. I have a Citroen C4 turbo diesel and it is very good. It can go as fast as the petrol models but takes a little longer to get there. The upside is the fuel economy. I went to Mount Magnet in WA in November, a round trip of 3,830km in three weeks, average fuel economy 5.4 l/100km. When overtaking a road train I would sit well back where the driver could see me and wait for the signal. I then floored it in 6th gear (manual) and by the time I was level with the cab of the truck I was doing 150. Lovely.
Loth, continued prayers for the little one.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Madame and I both have diesels now and are very pleased with the performance and economy, along with the feeling we are doing various things to help the environment. Even in the usual run of suburban driving, I'm getting around 7.25 l/100 km and Madame does even better with the small motor. They're a little bit noisier than the petrol equivalents at low speeds, but once you get over about 10 kph you would not know the difference.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I went diesel about 20 years ago and have never regretted it.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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of course there's diesels and diesels ... not likely to do 150 but enough grunt to shift the Titanic.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
of course there's diesels and diesels ... not likely to do 150 but enough grunt to shift the Titanic.
That one looks just the thing for Mum to drop the child off at the school down the road and join her friend for a latte at the shopping centre.
GG
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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I thought that one was Zappa off to have a latte at a trendy new café - no 4 wheel driver would go anywhere that had been open more than a month.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Son is buying a diesel Renault Megane which he will collect on Tuesday evening. He en joyed the diesel Golf he had some years ago.
His Renault mechanic friend went with him and took his diagnostic equipment to check the car out. A couple of minor repairs are needed but otherwise in very good condition.
Son checked insurance on it and will be paying more than now. Not surprising as his near dead car is a very old Renault. However, he found agreed value on the newer car means he would make a tidy profit on a write off. He was quite surprised.
Posted by Left at the Altar (# 5077) on
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So sorry to read about your grand daughter, Loth. I hope the treatment settles into a more bearable thing for her very soon. It must be awful for you all.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Ah, but the cafés are just down the steps from our new abode, and the diesel is becoming a true Toorak Tractor, parked in glorious splendour on our concrete driveway.
The week after it arrived I went to visit a parishioner - actually a retired bishop (what is it about retired bishops? I had one at the Church Without Walls, too. And both are fine specimens of faith-with-integrity). The roads are so narrow, steep and winding I had to do about a 24 point turn to get out of his cul de sac ... reversing was even less possible due to the start angle and 200 metres of cliff side descent.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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PS ... but I love it!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Good to see you LATA. Thanks for the thoughts for Miss M. I am very encouraged by all the support, not just her but in many other places. As is her dad whose birthday today runs the risk of being overshadowed by other things.
Miss M woke with a sore stomach yesterday. In a different spot to the pancreatitis pain. Her bowel is not twisted but has rolled back on itself forming a double tube. Cause unknown. Surgical team is considering options and is looking for the least invasive.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Are they white around Toorak? The local ones are usually black, and mostly Lexuses or Volvos. The Volvos are normally well driven, but watch out for the Lexuses and even more so those giant Mazdas.
As for retired bishops: Marie Robinson died recently, and the funeral was at St Swithuns Pymble, where they had been parishioners for years. The sons dressed ++ Donald up in his purple stock and all, and drove him there. His only comment was that it was a nice building and where was he. Very sad.
[ 24. January 2014, 21:23: Message edited by: Gee D ]
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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The Volvos are normally well driven, but watch out for the Lexuses and even more so those giant Mazdas.
Unless they are being driven by old men wearing bowls hats! I speak as once the driver of a large Volvo.
I'm sorry to hear about Don Robby as he was known when I was at uni. Often used as a speaker for the EU. I have moved on since then. I have been through that particular hell with my dad.
[ 24. January 2014, 21:57: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
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The Volvos are normally well driven, but watch out for the Lexuses and even more so those giant Mazdas.
Unless they are being driven by old men wearing bowls hats! I speak as once the driver of a large Volvo.
Over 20 years ago I was the owner/driver of TWO Volvos. Can admit it here as no one knows who I am!!
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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The week from hell has abated.
What can only be described as 'the perfect storm' engulfed us emotionally and we teetered along a family rift that threatened to estrange several generations. Damage control does not come near describing the roller coaster we've been on, and I have seriously wondered how I could have produced such emotionally immature young women.
Anyway, apart from hysteria (B2), tears (B2 & me), a broken relationship (B1 AGAIN), a broken toe (mine), a few angry men (especially TP) and the loss of a few back teeth (me - from grinding them), we have come through it all. I think.
Lord have mercy. I need it!
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I have just started a new Spoken English student and he is strongly attracted to the Eremitic Life, perhaps you might fancy it as well, BL. Living on your own in a cave somewhere I presume there cannot be too many family dramas.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Prayers, BL. Absolutely exhausting stuff.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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WW, A cave sounds positively wonderful to me. But then, homicide and suicide have looked quite attractive at times this week too! It's okay - we are in calmer waters now. Although I did crack up when I turned over my spiritual discipline card yesterday and it read "Find Solitude".
Given that our household has just expanded by 3, I may well have to run away to achieve that....it's really just a question of timing...
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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My little apartment expanded by one just before Christmas when son arrived.
I've had Miss 11 here for weeks because her mum has been with Miss M in hospital. I have a suspicion her 15 year old brother will be here this week too. Lots of teenage angst and hormones. School starts back and they attend near where son works but we will be crowded.
It's the noise which gets me. DIL has always had TV and radio on all day if she is home. They find nothing unusual about it. Life's hard for all of them right now, so I try not to nag but boy, it really bothers me. At least with school back I will be quiet.
Posted by Augustine the Aleut (# 1472) on
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Merry Australia Day from the frozen windswept wastes of the Ottawa valley.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thank you. It's cool in Sydney but you would find it hot. It's about 18°C where I am with a breeze. Certainly not the usual for Australia day which is blue skies, sun and heat.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
... It's about 18°C where I am with a breeze ...
That sounds just on the warm side of "very nice".
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you Piglet and Augustine. Not a summer day here, and the temp's not got over 18 all day. A good night for a bbq leg and some good old Hunter Shiraz.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Dennis the Menace:
Over 20 years ago I was the owner/driver of TWO Volvos. Can admit it here as no one knows who I am!!
I still am, technically. Though neither is working. One is in a wankydilla shearing shed, the other on a Volvo enthusiast's property on the Sides of the North.
I loved them both but preferred the turbo manual NZ one.
I smoked a pipe too, but that was years earlier. I gave it up for kuruman.
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
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Originally posted by Dennis the Menace:
Over 20 years ago I was the owner/driver of TWO Volvos. Can admit it here as no one knows who I am!!
I still am, technically. Though neither is working. One is in a wankydilla shearing shed, the other on a Volvo enthusiast's property on the Sides of the North.
I loved them both but preferred the turbo manual NZ one.
I smoked a pipe too, but that was years earlier. I gave it up for kuruman.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
I smoked a pipe too, but that was years earlier. I gave it up for kuruman.
I gave mine up because of pneumonia. Mrs R was not unhappy either way.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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How to celebrate Australia Day without really trying:
Vegemite toast for breakfast. Check.
Cuppa of Australian grown tea mid morning. Check.
Beetroot in the salad wrap for lunch. Check.
Backyard cricket with the grandkids in the avo. Check.
Beer on the back deck while watching the nearby fireworks. Check.
What did we do to celebrate Australia Day? Strewth mate, every day's Australia Day for us.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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I spent Australia Day with my niece and her partner, in a resort, high above NYC... Up in the mountains.
I am having a a fabulous time on long service leave.
Friends in Williamsburg, Virginia last week.
NYC now.
Back to my sister's farm in Ohio later in the week. However, this is te coldest winter she has ever experienced. We aren't sure how close I will be able to get. So family and friends across the country are what got help out. So much snow and ice everywhere.
But we faithfully celebrated Australia Day!
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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My dear ShipMates - your prayers would be most gratefully appreciated for my family, friends and myself for the morrow. Last Friday my 87-year old mother passed into eternal the rest of the Lord, in whom she had believed and trusted all of her life.
Her Requiem Eucharist is being held at St. Alban's, Epping at 1pm. I know masses and prayers are being offered for the repose of her soul both near and far, but can one have too many prayers at this time? Knowing that people are praying for us is helping us cope with the numbness.
As somewhere else on the Ship has been noted, one is never too old to realise that you have become an orphan!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Mrs Liturgia
... may she rest in peace and rise in the glory of Christ
and may you be surrounded by God's love at this time ...
[ 29. January 2014, 07:48: Message edited by: Zappa ]
Posted by Alban (# 9047) on
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Prayers for you and yours, Emendator. I know myself that however ready you may feel for the departure of a loved one, you're never ready.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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For Emli. Prayers for your mother and for those left, who mourn. May she rest in peace and rise again in the glory of Christ.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Prayers for you and your family from me too. I have been much encouraged and comforted lately by the support and prayers here for my family and Miss M. May you also feel comforted by our prayers.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Prayers and upholding from here, too.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Losing your mum always hurts. May you be enveloped by kindness when you most need it.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Emli and all who were close to your mum
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Prayers....
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Emli.
Rest eternal, light perpetual.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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for the soul of Mrs. Liturgia, and for all who mourn her.
Rest eternal grant unto her, O Lord, and let light perpetual shine upon her.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Oh dear, my prayers are with you Emendator Liturgia
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on
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The death of a parent is always hard.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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On another note ... I suspect the honeymoon is over.
Sigh.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
On another note ... I suspect the honeymoon is over.
Sigh.
Sadly, they never seem to last long.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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EL
Please pray for Biggest. Will be operated on for testicular torsion overnight. Caught early, should be fine.
It's been a bit of a week. Mums cousin passed away today aged 72, 30 years after first breast cancer diagnosis. Brave lady! Mother in law was first diagnosed with lymphoma 15 years ago. Her test results are all bad this week.
mr curly
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Ouch! Prayers for him. At least he won't be showing off this operation scar.
Also for those who mourn the loss of yet another. May she rest in peace and rise to the glory of Christ.
[ 31. January 2014, 19:49: Message edited by: Gee D ]
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Urologist arrived and decided it wasn't a torsion. Sent home. We'll see how he is this morning.
mr curly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Hope you get it sorted and prayers for him and you. Youngest son possibly had this but it was a hernia. Surgeon said unusual, usually in adult men or babies, not boys.
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on
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EL
Biggest
Last year's marches in support of compassionate policies toward refugees and asylum seekers drew a couple of hundred. But thousands down at Cottesloe today protesting the fate of sharks. Seems incongruous to me. People are idiots. Maybe fish are a better cause after all.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Last year's marches in support of compassionate policies toward refugees and asylum seekers drew a couple of hundred. But thousands down at Cottesloe today protesting the fate of sharks. Seems incongruous to me. People are idiots. Maybe fish are a better cause after all.
They're generally better eating!
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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They certainly have more bite to them.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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It's the anima thing. It sux.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Start of Term today with the Red Mass at St Mary's Catheral underway now, and the service at St James King St at 10.30. I'll be going to that, while the Riverview contingent is over the park now. They get to have morning tea with the Cardinal while our service is underway. Then the hard work starts.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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If I were home now.....
Large parts of my parish are burning.
Towns evacuated.
Chaplains all over the place.
Prayers would be welcomed.
My own town is safe.
I am still in tne US, for two more weeks.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Miss M has managed to spend the whole weekend at home and is thrilled to be there. She is still very lethargic and has lost practically all her hair, but is home. Clinic visits twice this week and another general anaesthetic on Thursday for the fourth bone marrow biopsy in a month.
But home. So far.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Good to hear!
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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for Miss M., and for the people of Rowen's home parish.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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And from us as well.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Woke this morning after a week of 39 degree heat to the smell of rain mixed with smoke.
Cooler today, which is a blessing. The birds outside are singing for the first time in a week. I had never realized before that one of the harbingers of stressful heat was the ominous silence of the bush birds.
It's probably a while since we've had such a long hot dry spell, but even a smattering of rain is welcome. Cyclones in the north. Baking point here in the south.
Somewhere in between would be very pleasant.
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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A very pleasant easterly breeze is even reaching us up in the valley, so doors and windows are thrown open, and the coolness is flushing through the house. So much nicer than being sealed up in the air-conditioning.
Was a very sticky afternoon for the installation of Bishop Greg in Newcastle on Sunday, but a joyous celebration, with parishioners in great numbers from all corners of the diocese, and many from other parts of the province. A great start to what we hope will be a transforming ministry.
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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I fear that +Greg has a lot of mopping up to do after some of the actions of his predecessor - and wounds to heal!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Yup ...
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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It's taken over a month, but I finally have official results back from the hospital for the last lot of scans and day surgery - and every thing is normal*, it's just a bugger that the same symptom can mean cancer or "things are going along just fine". (I wish this had been made clearer to me at the time).
My body has cried "wolf" a couple of times now, but it beats the real thing hands down.
*That's my body - my head is a whole different thing
Good to hear about Miss M Loth.
Huia
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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That cool easterly from earlier has brought gentle soaking rain for the first time in weeks. Much rejoicing in our little town, but praying that it blows further inland.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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A good service at Newcastle as we pushed +Greg through the west door and handed him over to the Novocastrians. Zappa, you and Mrs Zappa will be pleased to know that Yulki gave a fine speech at the formal dinner after the service.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
A good service at Newcastle as we pushed +Greg through the west door and handed him over to the Novocastrians. Zappa, you and Mrs Zappa will be pleased to know that Yulki gave a fine speech at the formal dinner after the service.
No surprises there! Send her our love.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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My first big gig and a sad one. I have built a liturgy of closure around compline.
Nervous: two archbishops, myriad bishops, all the diocesan clergy and key laity ...
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Done.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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but I finally have official results back from the hospital for the last lot of scans and day surgery - and every thing is normal*,
Great news, Huia. A big relief for you, I guess.
Miss M has yet another anaesthetic tomorrow. Cleaning of central line and another bone marrow biopsy. Bone marrow not yet to point of working well enough to reduce her almost total lethargy so no sign yet of school, even part time. However, doctors are pleased with numbers so far.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Well done Huia!
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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Done.
Howd it go?
That's a very young looking Bishop!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
Done.
Howd it go?
That's a very young looking Bishop!
I think he's about 51. AFAIK it went okay as I haven't been run out of town. One former shippie was there but I can't yet recall her nomme de ship ... I first met her at a Wellington Shipmeet in about 2005 with Arabella and Cod.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Oh - and McChicken was there, too, I think
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Evensong:
... That's a very young looking Bishop!
We installed a new Bishop a couple of weeks ago and he's the first one I've come across who's younger than me.
elderly piglet
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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For various reasons I've gone through about five bishops in the last seven years. ++Brisbane is younger than me (only by a few months), my second + Auckland is younger than me, and this out going plus is younger than me. Sigh. Whoever the incoming Plus in this diocese is will be likely to be younger than me.
I suppose I could swim the Tiber - I doubt there's too many young 'uns?
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Nah, don't swim the Tiber, it's probably colder than the pool and you want to avoid cramps.
McChicken - now there's a shippie I'd like to see posting again - I wonder if he's been involved in The Hobbit?
Loth - thinking of Miss M. I know children are said to be resilient, but that's a lot for a child to go through. Here young children are given a "bead of courage" for each procedure they have, and it's not uncommon to see photos of of kids with huge necklaces. One child in the paper had over 300 beads on hers.
Waitangi Day here - our national day and although it's p..teeming* up in thr North where the official celebrations are taking place, it's clear and sunny here I'm going to the local marae which is hosting a series of events today.
* one of my brother's terms, butsomeone used it on here ages ago (McChicken?) which made me think it wasn't original to him.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Loth - thinking of Miss M. I know children are said to be resilient, but that's a lot for a child to go through. Here young children are given a "bead of courage" for each procedure they have, and it's not uncommon to see photos of of kids with huge necklaces. One child in the paper had over 300 beads on hers.
That's a good idea, Huia. Seeing what Miss M has had in five weeks, I can imagine 300+ beads quite easily.
Twice weekly part of the chemo is by way of intramuscular injections. I've had this sort of thing in the past and I know they hurt. Usually takes at least two nurses to administer. She hates them, but just rolls over and accepts it. Does her own blood sugar tests. Hopefully the diabetes will go when the steroids are reduced but that seems a bit uncertain. Insulin injections several times a day.
I know lots of other children have diabetes but all this in a few weeks for someone who was previously very active and healthy is a bit hard to cope with. I have trouble thinking about it.
Other chemo goes down central line which requires flushing and cleaning and that's not pleasant either.
Resilient is a good word. It's unfortunate we have to use it.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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What an amazing kid ... our prayers will continue for as long as it takes
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
For various reasons I've gone through about five bishops in the last seven years. ++Brisbane is younger than me (only by a few months), my second + Auckland is younger than me, and this out going plus is younger than me. Sigh. Whoever the incoming Plus in this diocese is will be likely to be younger than me.
I see a distinguished clerical gentleman in the Prime of Life, wearing an impressive (to a Presbyterian) gold whatsit.
Just watch the policemen, the dentist, the doctors, and the clergy getting younger and younger. My physiotherapist is at least 55 years younger than me – could be my grandson. He's really fixed my latest back disaster, too.
GG
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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One former shippie was there but I can't yet recall her nomme de ship ... I first met her at a Wellington Shipmeet in about 2005 with Arabella and Cod.
I remember ... Jemimah.
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Well, I found out that there's no tickets left for laity for the consecration and installation in Grafton on 1 March. But we have the Friday off and the accommodation booked, so we're going up and I'm going to participate through the video feed in the hall next door to the cathedral.
I want to hang around on the Sunday long enough to go to the new bishop's first mass in her cathedral. I've told Mr Vulpior that it's a historic occasion and he's coming too.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Miss M stated a new round of chemo this week which goes for 4-5 weeks. They were at clinic yesterday morning at 7:30. Mainly oral this time, several days at clinic and also something at home every evening.
One of the side effects of this lot is that it can cause a rise in temperature. If this goes over 38°, they have to go back to hospital to check whether it's an infection or a side effect. Infection means at least a week in hospital. So we are hoping that she does not have this side effect.
Fortunately, they live quite close to Westmead Children's Hospital, but nevertheless they would rather not have to make unscheduled trips.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Miss M stated a new round of chemo this week which goes for 4-5 weeks. They were at clinic yesterday morning at 7:30. Mainly oral this time, several days at clinic and also something at home every evening.
One of the side effects of this lot is that it can cause a rise in temperature. If this goes over 38°, they have to go back to hospital to check whether it's an infection or a side effect. Infection means at least a week in hospital. So we are hoping that she does not have this side effect.
Fortunately, they live quite close to Westmead Children's Hospital, but nevertheless they would rather not have to make unscheduled trips.
How are her spirits?
GG
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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She's bright and chirpy and was very emphatic about what she wanted to a nurse at the clinic yesterday who wanted to put her pillow just so. It was uncomfortable and she let nurse know in no uncertain terms.
Fortunately the intramuscular injections have stopped for the moment and she is very happy about that, although she endured them without complaint or movement.
I belong to a particular knitting group on Ravelry (like FB for crafters). Most of the members of the group are in Britain or USA. They send her little things via my address. She loves these and the variety has been amazing. One member is going to Iceland soon and will send her postcards from there. The kindness is almost overwhelming and my son has trouble taking it all in.
She loves all these things which arrive specially spaced so not all at once.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Prayers still ascending, Lothlorien - what a brave wee girl.
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Loth, prayers continuing for her in our communities - she and all her family are being prayed for in Granville, North Rocks, Rose Bay and Putty: one simply can't have enough banging on the gates of heaven!
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Wearing helmets whilst cycling is compulsory here.
This morning I leapt on my bike and raced off (at granny speed) to donate some books to the local Playcentre. On the way I saw kids from the school in my street practising their cycle skills. I was very careful to ride safely and indicate my changes in direction to set a good example On the way home I met them coming in the other direction and one of the adults accompanying them tapped his head, as did all the children following. I reached up to my head - no helmet. In my hurry I had overlooked it
I wheeled my bike home then sat down and wrote a letter to the children explaining that I had forgotten to put my helmet on, but that I knew this wasn't an excuse. I pointed out that had the police stopped me I would have had to pay a $50 fine. As they had caught me I enclosed $50 for their school.
I think the Principal thought I was a bit nuts when I delivered the letter and explained the circumstances, but he was going to read it out to them this afternoon.
I just hope they don't try to collect from all the bareheaded cyclists they see around.
Honestly though meeting those 5 pairs of disapproving eyes was worse than being stopped by the cops.
Huia - law breaker
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Emendator Liturgia:
Loth, prayers continuing for her in our communities - she and all her family are being prayed for in Granville, North Rocks, Rose Bay and Putty: one simply can't have enough banging on the gates of heaven!
Thank you. Prayer , support, gifts have come in from all over the world and we are immensely grateful, almost overwhelmed.
This new lot of chemo may have the side effect of raising her temperature. This would mean another hospital admission and tests to see if it was indeed an infection causing at least seven days there, or one of the side effects.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Huia (citizen with a conscience), another patient when the Grandad was in HDU last year was a very fit retired PE teacher who cycled a lot and *always* wore his helmet. One day he got on his bike without his helmet to ride a few houses down the road, was (it's assumed) knocked off by a couple of roaming dogs – major head injuries – flown to base hospital – family gathered to say goodbye – he began to respond to stimulus, and when we left was being transferred to a rehab facility. We'll never know to what extent he'll recover. But a cautionary tale for cyclists, isn't it?
GG
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thank you. Prayer , support, gifts have come in from all over the world and we are immensely grateful, almost overwhelmed.
This new lot of chemo may have the side effect of raising her temperature. This would mean another hospital admission and tests to see if it was indeed an infection causing at least seven days there, or one of the side effects.
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Originally posted by Emendator Liturgia:
Loth, prayers continuing for her in our communities - she and all her family are being prayed for in Granville, North Rocks, Rose Bay and Putty: one simply can't have enough banging on the gates of heaven!
Thank you Emli. I told my son this when he returned last night. The prayers of people from SoF are very much welcomed by him and he is grateful and extremely touched by the number. As you say, there can never be too many.
Miss M was readmitted last night with a high temperature. It will be 48 hours before tests show if this is another infection or a result of new lot of chemo.
This sort of thing is common with patients like her but it is very wearing on all. He keeps a bag in the car with spare clean clothes and toiletries. He has gone off this morning with pillow and more stuff in case he has to spend weekend at hospital.
[ 13. February 2014, 20:11: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Prayers for the little Miss from me here.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Praying this too will pass for little Miss M.
Huia, you are priceless. What a great response from you - most adults I know would have said something extremely rude to any kids who dared to indicate they were breaking the road rules.
Rejoice with me, shippies: the studio slab is down. Walls and roof to be up within a fortnight if the weather permits. I have several commissions awaiting, so I am very keen to inhabit it. TP & I sorted out access and landscaping this morning. I am beginning to believe it will really happen. Woohoo!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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That sounds wonderful for you, BL. Hope everything falls into place well.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Miss M
Middle has been off school with a nasty virus all week. When a 14 year old is off his food, you know something is wrong. His birthday party tomorrow is postponed, and he has had to pull out of a rep cricket game on Sunday. Not happy.
Biggest makes his senior debut for North Sydney Cricket Club tomorrow. Weather permitting. I suspect a drive to Liverpool followed by a drive back with no play. We'll see.
M-in-Law is heading into full-on chemo shortly.
I'm still not selling enough books! If anyone likes cricket and wants a review copy, PM me.
mr curly
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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for Miss M, Middle and Mr. C's mother-in-law.
BL, health to enjoy your new studio.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Well, Mr C, from the weather here, there'll be no cricket at Liverpool today. And it probably will be an unpleasant drive. But well done Biggest - who knows what the future holds? The elder son of a couple near here (now 22 or 23) has played for an English county side since leaving school.
Not good news about your MIL, and prayers for her. Middle will be back at school on Monday no doubt.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Well, Mr C, from the weather here, there'll be no cricket at Liverpool today. And it probably will be an unpleasant drive.
Yes. Got there to a dry outfield and a covered pitch that revealed itself as unprepared. Came home.
mr curly
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Much welcome rain and coolness here in the South - I hope it is the same where Rowen works. I hear things were a bit crispy in those parts recently.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Miss M was very ill last night. Lots of doctors visiting through the night and a senior doctor who was relieved to see this morning that there was a slight improvement. "Crackling " in left lung brought a chest x-ray. Note advanced medical terms as used by staff.
She's had nothing but a couple of glasses of strawberry milk all day and as son says, "lights are on but no one is home." Different antibiotics to yesterday.
All this is par for the course as we are assured, but it's very wearing on us all.
[ 15. February 2014, 08:01: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Prayers continue for your grand-daughter, Lothlorien.
Madame's rather poorly this evening, so we cancelled our arrangements and stayed home. I did a quick and simple dinner of bbq steak and a salad. Then cheese and fruit. Nothing more needed.
It's very restful here, with the kooks now silent and just a bit of a breeze in the high trees. Both of us are thinking about winding back at the end of this year. Neither will if the other doesn't.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thanks Gee D. Hope Madame feels better soon. We had kookaburras down here at 5:00 pm the other day. The sulphur crested cockies usually allow no opposition from other birds, so the kookaburras were welcome.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you Lothlorien, it's probably one of those things that will be better in a few days. But retirement is looking more tempting.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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I fly home this week... To a parish well and truly burnt. Farms gone. Townships mightily affected. Exhausted chaplains. Stressed people.... I will come in, fresh as a daisy, and BLAM. Work wil. Begin with a bang.
I have had the best of times OS. And now, Thursday on.... Maybe not so good. God be with me.
And with those who are sick.
[ 15. February 2014, 12:30: Message edited by: Rowen ]
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
...retirement is looking more tempting.
It is to be heartily recommended - there is still a lot of living to be done outside w*rk...
...and lots of siestas to be taken!
* * * * *
Holding you in the Light, Rowen, as you reconnect with work.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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The emails... The photos.... The FB statuses.... So sad.
So, my thanks
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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for Rowen and the people of your parish, and for Miss M and Madame D.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you all for your thoughts. Madame was well enough for both of us to go to church this morning but is having a nap now. One of her sisters will call in tomorrow and see how she is.
WW - I'm self-employed and should I decide to retire, my clerk will simply tell enquirers that I'm not available after the chosen date. Madame has her business and how that's dealt with is not easy. We each have shares in it as does Dlet now, and the manager has some as well. Then there are tax implications to take into account, the desirability of keeping a stream of income from it, and so forth. Dealing with all of this will not be arranged overnight.
Madame does a lot of work from home and has done for many years. I would not want to be at home retired, while she's at home working. And she was the one who made the major rearrangements when we decided to have children. It's only fair that she has the greater say in it.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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for Miss M
for Rowen, may God give you the strength for what will be very difficult & tiring work. also for your Parishioners and all those affected by the fires.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Never forgetting little M.
GG
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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40 years ago today, Mrs R and I were married in Geelong. Happy days :-)
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Congratulations to you both We have 37 years coming up in just a few months and would not have changed it for quids.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Another fever for Middle and something Mrs C observed has led her to go "Oh, he's got Such and Such!" (auto-immune something) She has promptly taken him off to hospital for intravenous something or other that is required in the circumstances. Hopefully that will set him on the road to recovery - he's been very sick.
But, of course, not as sick as thise who are really sick. Miss M
mr curly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Mr Curly, any child who is sick needs our prayers. Thanks for those for Miss M and I'll pray for your son. I hope he has a speedy recovery.
DIL, Miss M's mother is being absolutely, utterly ridiculous and the other two children are being used as pawns. I can say no more but the situation is just horrible.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Miss M
Master Curly
A very pleasant few days have been spent with Clarence and FD. I think I might need to put my liver through the wash, though ...
Biggest week of the year at St Lego's on the Edge ... the Octave of St ArtDeco is bigger the the Second Coming.
I'm only slightly terrified. Slightly.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
... I might need to put my liver through the wash ...
What a wonderful way of putting it! A friend of D's, after spending a couple of evenings in my parents' company, later described them as "Piglet's dangerously hospitable parents".
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Biggest week of the year at St Lego's on the Edge ... the Octave of St ArtDeco is bigger the the Second Coming.
I'm only slightly terrified. Slightly.
I think I'd be terrified too. That's a big programme. Do you need to attend it all?
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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LA Qantas Club.... Caught first plane this morning at 10. Will catch the Qantas plane tonight at 10. Looking forward to home, just not the journey to get there.
Home sweet home.
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Sorry, Haven't called in for a while and I do so looking for something for myself.
I will be in Adelaide on the 4-7 May this year to attend the Spiritual Care Australia conference and am wondering if there any Adelaide shippies who would care to meet up.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
Biggest week of the year at St Lego's on the Edge ... the Octave of St ArtDeco is bigger the the Second Coming.
I'm only slightly terrified. Slightly.
What, are they making you frock up in period costume? Until you mentioned it, I had forgotten, and I was planning to visit Mum, but maybe...
I do like your name for the building - particularly as it applies to the shape, and the colour scheme inside (Mrs Archbishop Lesser's gift to the diocese, according to my mother).
Miss M
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
Sorry, Haven't called in for a while and I do so looking for something for myself.
I will be in Adelaide on the 4-7 May this year to attend the Spiritual Care Australia conference and am wondering if there any Adelaide shippies who would care to meet up.
Ooh, I'm going to the SCA conference too, perhaps we could have a joint meet!
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Thanks all for prayers. Middle remains in hospital, likely out tomorrow lunchtime, He's much brighter tonight.
mr curly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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That's good news Mr Curly at the top of page again! Hope all is well with him.
Miss M has made a wonderful recovery after our very worrying few days at the weekend and may also be released tomorrow. She had lots of cuddles tonight from Big Sister, 11, and enjoyed that as they are close.
She will be back at clinic for another general anaesthetic on Thursday for bone marrow biopsy and associated spinal taps etc. These will be a check on progress with second round of chemo.
Such a rollercoaster ride here.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Glad to hear about Middle Curly and that Miss M's still bouncing back.
Long may it continue.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Miss M may get home today depending on results of a rest from yesterday. No infection has shown up in any testing, so it is assumed the severe heart arrhythmia and the temperature of 41°C were a side effect of the second round of chemo.
They treat the symptoms but the chemo goes on regardless. Another general anaesthetic tomorrow, another bone marrow biopsy, spinal tap etc.
Son asked me to say thanks for prayers and good wishes. All much appreciated.
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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quote:
Originally posted by James the Confident:
quote:
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
Sorry, Haven't called in for a while and I do so looking for something for myself.
I will be in Adelaide on the 4-7 May this year to attend the Spiritual Care Australia conference and am wondering if there any Adelaide shippies who would care to meet up.
Ooh, I'm going to the SCA conference too, perhaps we could have a joint meet!
Great. Let's do that.
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
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Originally posted by James the Confident:
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Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
Sorry, Haven't called in for a while and I do so looking for something for myself.
I will be in Adelaide on the 4-7 May this year to attend the Spiritual Care Australia conference and am wondering if there any Adelaide shippies who would care to meet up.
Ooh, I'm going to the SCA conference too, perhaps we could have a joint meet!
Great. Let's do that.
It is so tempting to be there. The Swans are away to the Crows at the redeveloped Adelaide Oval. We already have a few away matches booked but if this one gets added I'll have to remember to come back and let you know.
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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You'll excuse me for mis-checking my calendar and talking complete balls. But I may still get to Adelaide for work at that time. You never know.
Vulpior, about to take my headache home.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Son asked me to say thanks for prayers and good wishes.
It was lovely this morning at the lego cathedral because now my priestly colleagues are beginning to pray for her as if they know her personally - I dunno how to explain it but it's beginning to feel as if we all have a personal stake in her well-being
[ 19. February 2014, 07:02: Message edited by: Zappa ]
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Do you need to attend it all?
Yes. Still terrified. Plans not coming together. Takes me back to broadcasting days.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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It was lovely this morning at the lego cathedral because now my priestly colleagues are beginning to pray for her as if they know her personally - I dunno how to explain it but it's beginning to feel as if we all have a personal stake in her well-being
Thank you. That's lovely. we really appreciate the worldwide prayer and it's been a comfort to know of so many praying for her.
I belong to Ravelry, sort of facebook for knitters and crocheters. A group within that seems to have adopted her too. When I thanked them for their kindnesses when they didn't even know me, I was reprimanded. Of course, we were friends, just hadn't met. They are sending her postcards, craft stuff books. All co-ordinated by a moderator so things come separately. They say they feel personally involved too. Extra aunties and grandmas etc.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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A morning in Sydney! Look gum trees, and no snow! A good start to the journey home!
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
... Extra aunties and grandmas etc.
One can never really have too many aunties and grandmas.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by piglet:
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
... Extra aunties and grandmas etc.
One can never really have too many aunties and grandmas.
Especially ones who buy Miss M more bears. Cousins to her own which I bought when the donor had first operation for breast cancer. She's returning the gift.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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One can also never have too many bears.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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One can also never have too many bears.
Not sure about that. We have three large (tea-chest sized) cartons of them, plus several that are living free!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Mr Curly, copied from the car thread in Heaven, where I also talk of cars to buy:
As to Biggest's learning to drive - before either of us took Dlet out for his first drive, we booked him into full day course at a well-known driving school, with its own track, and just opposite St Ives Showground. Very useful, well worth the money, and he went back for half day courses about halfway through his L plates and again just before he went for his test. If you book the test at Belrose, Biggest can have a lesson beforehand, and then the instructor will drive him to Belrose RMS and he do the test on the same car. Dlet had to do 120 hours, and these counted double or triple time, can't remember which. There's also a lot of night driving to be done. Since Madame took him out in daylight, I covered the night.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by piglet:
One can also never have too many bears.
Bugger. I read that as beers.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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I think Dlet had too many beers last night - he's not well this morning, not well at all.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Huia, special prayers from all of us for you and all your fellow citizens, on this, the 3rd anniversary.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Huia, special prayers from all of us for you and all your fellow citizens, on this, the 3rd anniversary.
Many, many thoughts and prayers spoken for the people of Christchurch from our cathedral and town today.
One of the biggest weeks of my life. It's worked. I'm buggered.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Hmmm, that Adelaide SCA conference in May looks tempting.
Home now, and tired.
Took church today, and was given a warm welcome. Nice.
And extremely conscious of my burning parish, and how much there is to do, noting that some of it s still cut off by blazes.
I had sent emails ahead, asking for donations of biscuits and slices. I figured that would be a kind gesture... Wherever I go in the burning areas, I will bring arvo tea... People are more inclined to relax over a yummy bite of something.
My dear congregation has given me boxes of food. Some we have frozen. They tell me they will go on cooking as long as I ask. After all, they said, they were evacuated, and then the scare ended, and the town was safe, so the least they can do is help others. They were a bit worried about the church and the manse, but felt they wouldn't tell me at the time, as I was having fun in the USA somewhere. Probably for the best!
The members of my main church are dears.
[ 23. February 2014, 08:15: Message edited by: Rowen ]
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Glad you have arrived back safely, Rowen.
Autumn is in the air here, and with it the first head cold I've had for ages. Snifff.
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Autumn is in the air here, and with it the first head cold I've had for ages. Snifff.
I hope you were able to appreciate your birthday yesterday (yes, missed it) pre-cold.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Glad to hear you got back safely, Rowen, and belated happy birthday, BL.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Thanks for the prayers for Christchurch Gee D and Zappa. Three years on I would have hoped people's claims would have been settled, at least so that the uncertainty would be lessened. It is for most of us, but some of the really complicated ones are still in limbo. In addition the price of rental accommodation has skyrocketed due to fewer places being available, people moving out while their houses are fixed and accommodation being required for all the extra workers.
The approach of winter is an additional factor.
I'm lucky as there's just the driveway and front (brick) fence to be fixed, and that should happen in the next couple of months (fingers and toes crossed). Actually I wish it were possible to say -"leave the driveway and fix someone's house instead" but of course it doesn't work that way. IF I ruled the world it would.
Huia - wannabe dictator (mostly benevolent)
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Originally posted by Rowen:
Hmmm, that Adelaide SCA conference in May looks tempting.
Home now, and tired.
Took church today, and was given a warm welcome. Nice.
And extremely conscious of my burning parish, and how much there is to do, noting that some of it s still cut off by blazes.
I had sent emails ahead, asking for donations of biscuits and slices. I figured that would be a kind gesture... Wherever I go in the burning areas, I will bring arvo tea... People are more inclined to relax over a yummy bite of something.
My dear congregation has given me boxes of food. Some we have frozen. They tell me they will go on cooking as long as I ask. After all, they said, they were evacuated, and then the scare ended, and the town was safe, so the least they can do is help others. They were a bit worried about the church and the manse, but felt they wouldn't tell me at the time, as I was having fun in the USA somewhere. Probably for the best!
The members of my main church are dears.
There'll be at least two shippies there, time for a meet!
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I'm feeling very relieved. I just had a new heat pump installed and I could not get it to work. I thought that I was doing something wrong and felt very stupid, so the nice man came around to talk me through how the remote control works. Much to his astonishment the problem is with the unit, not me. The installer is coming back to sort things out
I'm having a run of it. Yesterday a plumber broke the handbasin while trying to take off the old taps. It was actually lucky that he did as I didn't realise how fragile it was and it probably would have broken anyway, but at a much more awkward time. So now I'm getting a new vanity unit as well as taps
When the dust clears from all this I'm getting the house re-wired too - fingers crossed.
The joys of having a house that is only 4 years younger than me, but at least this should make it warm and safe.
Huia
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on
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Good news for Sydney? Cardinal Pell is to be transferred to the Vatican.
Not sure if this will be a move Upwards? Sideways? Downwards?
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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As I saw this tonight I was wishing Multipara still was here. I was wondering what she would say.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Dunno, but it looks like a tough job ahead of him
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Multipara used to say that Pell and his colleague from St Andrews Cathedral were twins separated at birth.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Perhaps this is a deliberately chosen picture of one of the contenders for the position of ++Sydney. In today's SMH, here.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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George Pell is in his 70's. That's an interesting superannuation plan...
And in other geriatric news...
TP took our grandsons to the aged care facility to visit their great grandmother. He sat them on the couch inside the entry, opposite the reception desk while he ducked into the visitor's loo nearby. When he came out there was a bit of a crowd gathered around the boys. Some of the residents and all of the admin staff were listening in awe as Master 8 (B1.2 is the geeky one) explained to Master 12 (B1.1 is the sporty one) why time stopped inside Black Holes, the relationship between black holes and white holes, and the space/time continuum....
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Perhaps this is a deliberately chosen picture of one of the contenders for the position of ++Sydney. In today's SMH, here.
A Dominican surrounded by enough food to feed a homeless shelter! A glutton is not my choice, but since I am not the Holy Father, I will shut up now.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by PeteC:
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Perhaps this is a deliberately chosen picture of one of the contenders for the position of ++Sydney. In today's SMH, here.
A Dominican surrounded by enough food to feed a homeless shelter! A glutton is not my choice, but since I am not the Holy Father, I will shut up now.
And not for the first time by the looks of things. That's why I thought it was carefully chosen, possibly by someone with a view to discrediting him for some reason. I know little of him, just the name and the cathedral where he is.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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I'm reading that Pell's translation is of benefit to both Rome and Sydney. Christian Kenneally, IIRC.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Here's the ke
eneally article:
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Originally posted by rexory:
Here's the ke
eneally article:
Hmmmm, one disgraced Roman Catholic commenting on another. **shudder**. Gives Catholicism a bad name.
Loth, no doubt you've heard the old joke when Abp Jensen was the Anglican incumbent "What's the only thing that separates Peter Jensen and George Pell?"
"Hyde Park"
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Evangeline, that's very similar to Multipara's "twins separated at birth." Very true.
Posted by Silver Swan (# 17957) on
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Rev Dr Sarah Macneil becomes Bishop of Grafton today. http://www.coffscoastadvocate.com.au/news/rev-sarah-prepared-to-step-into-history/2184720/
Good news!
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Mr Curly, is Middle OK? I might have missed the update but last I saw he was still in hospital
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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I popped a request for +Sarah on the Prayers thread. Aust's first woman diocesan, even if the ABC saw fit to give an incorrect explanation for +Keith's resignation.
There seems to me a world of difference between a resignation because of a failure to report abuse to the police and a very honourable resignation because you consider that you did not approach compensation claims with proper pastoral concern for the claimants.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
I popped a request for +Sarah on the Prayers thread. Aust's first woman diocesan,
What took you so long?
Well done that woman!
Seriously though my prayers are with her - it's not easy being the first woman in any role and I think that much of the flak the Bishop of Christchurch cops is because she is a woman.
Huia
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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I am in Grafton. I was there. Well, not in the cathedral because I didn't pull my finger out to try to get a ticket, but in the hall where they had a small screen but a good quality video and audio feed. We sang, prayed and wept as if we were there. It was a privilege to join the people of Grafton. I counted 19 bishops going in (so 20 going out!). Bishop Sarah was vested in cope and mitre by the other four female bishops.
I didn't particularly note whether Bishop Trevor Edwards was there, but at least three of the four candidates at the last Canberra-Goulbourn episcopal election were: preacher, chief consecrator and new bishop!
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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A lot of bishops seem to emerge from our diocese. Perhaps it is thought that if they can navigate their way through the currents of Canberra/Goulburn they can manage just about anything! Good luck to Bp Sarah - I suspect she will need it.
I have a new ecumenical role now, with more travel ahead. My days at the big house have lessened. Much to do, and am still crook. The roof goes on my studio next week, and I am itching to have it finished as we are all living on top of each other.
Glad to hear of improvements in Middle and Miss M. And thanks for the birthday wishes Piglet. TP surprised me with a lovely gift - a genuine 1920's swivel library chair. I am happily sitting in it as I type. Wheeee!
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Originally posted by Evangeline:
Mr Curly, is Middle OK? I might have missed the update but last I saw he was still in hospital
Thanks for checking up on him. Middle is improving. He had 3 days in hospital, then the rest of previous week off school. Back at school this past week, still with a cough and sore muscles but getting cheekier every day which is a good sign. He's a bit tired and trying to catch up on school work from the 2 weeks he missed is taxing him. He is peeling skin from his hands and feet, which is revolting.
Rain here in Sydney, so not sure if today involves watching Biggest play cricket or not. I suspect a blessed relief is in store.
mr curly
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
I popped a request for +Sarah on the Prayers thread. Aust's first woman diocesan,
What took you so long?
Well done that woman!
Seriously though my prayers are with her - it's not easy being the first woman in any role and I think that much of the flak the Bishop of Christchurch cops is because she is a woman.
Huia
Our first was +Penny Jamieson in Dunedin and I think she had some really hurtful experiences that we outside the church didn't hear much about.
GG
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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+Kay may have become the first diocesan as I gather she balloted well in the first electoral synod for Newcastle.
Grafton will be a hard job for anyone. +Sarah's background says that she has the necessary skills, but that does not mean that she will be allowed to show them. Nor does it mean that there won't be any of the nasty criticisms that she has not succeeded in a particular task because "she's just a woman, what would you expect".
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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If Newcastle had a nomination system like Grafton +Kay may have had a better chance, but the opposition from both ends of the clergy spectrum meant she was unable to gain a majority in that house of Synod.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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It feels like we have gone straight from summer to winter. There are howling, 130 km winds and large swathes of Christchurch are without power tonight. This is hard because a lot of homes lost their chimneys in the quakes and a reliant on electricity for heating.
I took a bus to the other side of town to have lunch with a friend and was very glad that my shoes are waterproof and that I stayed warm with two knitted hats and a yellow knitted collar, (from a world class knitter ) as well as 4 layers of clothing. I am also grateful that my bus goes right across town so I didn't have to get off at the Exchange.
Tomorrow the weather is supposed to be similar, although a couple of degrees warmer. I'm going to the library, which unfortunately isn't on any bus route and a long-suffering librarian is going to help me sort out whether my Sony e-reader is slow or whether it's the library wifi ( which has been known to make my dial up connection look fast).
In your charity remember him in your prayers, he is both patient and kind.
Huia - trying hard
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Insanely busy 5 days approaching, including a business trip to the Gold Coast from tomorrow arvo until Friday night. Quick preso at Presbytery on Sat am, then playing at a wedding in Auburn then Middle's delayed birthday party at Chez Curly. Sunday is Biggest playing cricket, me playing in the 25th anniversary game of the team I helped start, then the crew from that back at Chez Curly for a BBQ.
mr curly
On top and exhausted
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Good news from the hospital.
The steroid induced diabetes and pancreatitis are fading and overall doctors are very happy with Miss M's progress. Two months now of a different drug known to induce severe nausea, then several months more treatment.
More intermittent treatment after that provided progress continues and checkups for several years. Research has shown that the chemo must be continued even after all numbers are good to prevent relapses.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Good news about Ms M.
Huia, its bad here too. I'm completely dressed in winter woollies. I had to go to Masterton yesterday - left here wearing a t-shirt, came back shivering cos it was only 7 degrees from about Carterton onwards. Fortunately, I had looked at the forecast and taken my raincoat, but I don't think I've ever driven wearing it just to stay warm.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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No, I'm not gloating, but it's warm and mostly sunny at Matarangi except for today – it was going to be a trip in to town until one h*** of a downpour, just as I was about to pop over to kind neighbour's to check emails. Almost got soaked getting into the car instead, and discovered a major leak coming from the interior light fixture. Rest of the week looks great.
GG
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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You're allowed to gloat a bit, GG!
I'm heading off to one of the two International Festival events I've booked for tonight: the Bach Collegium Japan performing the Bach St John Passion. It is hard to imagine a better evening - my favourite piece of music played by my favourite interpreters of Bach. And tomorrow night, the same group performing Bach's Lutheran Masses.
Heaven on earth.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
It feels like we have gone straight from summer to winter. There are howling, 130 km winds and large swathes of Christchurch are without power tonight. This is hard because a lot of homes lost their chimneys in the quakes and a reliant on electricity for heating.
I took a bus to the other side of town to have lunch with a friend and was very glad that my shoes are waterproof and that I stayed warm with two knitted hats and a yellow knitted collar, (from a world class knitter ) as well as 4 layers of clothing. I am also grateful that my bus goes right across town so I didn't have to get off at the Exchange.
Not so good ... sometimes I think someone ought to mention to God that Cantabrians have had enough
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Prayers from us for Mss M continue. What a hard way to spend your childhood.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Today the weather here is sunny and still.
GG, be careful or you will have an unexpected guest - complete with cat.
There is a collection day for childhood cancer here later this month. I am going to organise myself to give some time. I never realised how horrendous it is for the children and their families.
Huia
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
Today the weather here is sunny and still.
GG, be careful or you will have an unexpected guest - complete with cat.
There is a collection day for childhood cancer here later this month. I am going to organise myself to give some time. I never realised how horrendous it is for the children and their families.
Huia
No cats around here but we do have bunnies. I actually saw them eating some burnt toast I'd thrown out for the birds.
Fortunately the road kill, apart from them danged possums, seems to include stoats, nasty little beasts.
GG
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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You have wild stoats in NZ?
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
You have wild stoats in NZ?
Yup, seen one in my garden in suburban Wellington. Nasty critters.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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There is a collection day for childhood cancer here later this month. I am going to organise myself to give some time. I never realised how horrendous it is for the children and their families.
Thank you, Huia.
I did not realise the impact the family till all this started. I could see in my own life what it did to my brain and concentration and we all felt as if run over by a bus. Totally blindsided and no one had any idea.
My sons have many times done the greatest shave for leukaemia and grown moustaches etc, supported Canteen and other cancer charities. My sister raised a very large sum in her touristy coastal town for breast cancer research. She was diagnosed in 1997.
But the childhood cancer really hits everybody hard. Miss M is currently at home, religiously checking her own temperature every hour and doing blood sugar finger tests too by herself. However, life at home consists of visits by home nurses and visits to the clinic. Something every day. Her mother had to give up her job because there is no way to handle all this otherwise.
If she has to be re-admitted for side effects or nasty infections because of suppressed immune system, then everything changes. Mum or dad is with her all the time. There are two other siblings and they have to have care too.
Every aspect of family life seems to have been affected and there are lots of flow on effects all twisted in.
That is without the seriousness of the disease. She is making progress but won't be considered cured for some years yet.
Support has been amazing and some of son's work clients are now doing the biggest shave. Interstate, they organised this themselves as a gesture of support.
Much more to say, but this is an introduction.
[ 05. March 2014, 21:28: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Prayers continuing for Miss M., Lothlorien and family.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Banner Lady the stoats, like the possums, bunnies and the rats are introduced. All of them cause problems.
We have a hare (also introduced)that has made its home at the back of the church.
Huia
[ 06. March 2014, 05:30: Message edited by: Huia ]
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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A hare? Get your slow cooker out the Huia.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Aha, hare today and gone tomorrow!
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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I spent yesterday up in the burnt and burning areas of my parish, with social workers. Next week, the Victorian Council of Churches and the state gov are sending 4 of us clergy up for four days... cars and motels provided.
I know we only go where it is safe, but it is weird to look across a valley and see fire...
There is a huge base camp in town... hundreds of tents. Great for the economy.
Sigh. My poor wounded mountains. Thousands of hectares of farmland and national park gone. People's lives a mess.
I keep telling myself that my small steps to help are ok. Otherwise it is rather overwhelming.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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{{Rowen}} for you and all your parishioners - there's not really much else I can say except that you're in my thoughts and prayers.
And do keep telling yourself that what you're doing is OK, because it is.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
I did not realise the impact the family till all this started ...
Much more to say, but this is an introduction.
May I pass this on to my co prayer-makers at the cathedral?
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Prayers indeed Rowen for all suffering in so many ways from the fires.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Thanks, kind folks
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Just back from a successful 2 day business trip to teh Gold Coast.
Except
Middle is back in hospital, now diagnosed with an infection in his pelvis. Now on mega IV antibiotics, in hospital for 4-5 days.
Poor Mrs C has had to deal with a fair bit of judgling etc. this week. Her mum has been in hospital as well having a blood transfusion during chemo.
Weekend is jam-packed, although not with Middle's birthday party, which is postponed again.
Never dull . . . .
mr curly
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Prayers for you all, Mr Curly.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
I did not realise the impact the family till all this started ...
Much more to say, but this is an introduction.
May I pass this on to my co prayer-makers at the cathedral?
Certainly.
A bit of a late reply, but I have been out all day from early.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Again, for Mr. and Mrs. Curly, Middle, Loth and Miss M. and Rowen and the congregation.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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What Piglet said.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Certainly.
Will do,
Terry Waite was in the congregation this morning. The second time I've met him - I was his and Runcie's driver for four days in 1987 - a few months before he was captured.
Apart from name dropping, it was wonderful to see him looking so well, and above all to see him in a worshipping community, as I had heard that he had dropped faith (understandably) after his ordeal.
He's not hard to pick in a crowd, even after 27 years.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Prayers for Middle, Mr Curly. I hope he is making progress now.
Miss M has had very good results from latest round of tests. Chemo however, will continue for at least another four months to knock the leukaemia on its head. This round will last two months and its main side effect is extreme nausea.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Could someone here arrange for a change in the weather, please? It never rains but it pours. Miss M's big sister fell over at school today playing bull rush. She has fractured her wrist.
DIL is not in a good place and we expect some implosion soon. Not helped by Miss M cheerfully remarking to her mother that at least they have a parking card so parking at hospital was cheap.
Said card costs parents of kids with cancer $20/month. Otherwise a day's parking is close to $30/day.
[ 10. March 2014, 05:01: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
... Terry Waite was in the congregation this morning. The second time I've met him - I was his and Runcie's driver for four days in 1987 - a few months before he was captured ...
He was due to speak in Belfast Cathedral just before he was captured (it was the year before we moved there). He came to the cathedral shortly after he was released, and my chief memory was of his (literally) huge presence - he's a seriously big bloke!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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One of my most difficult working weeks for a long time, starting with catching the 6 am train every day Monday and being flat out all week until I was on the 8.30 from Wynyard last night. A bit of a sleep-in today but both Madame and Dog wanted their walk. Thoughts of retirement again crossing my mind.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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A walk might help blow cobwebs away. Then perhaps a pleasant coffee for morning tea. A good book for the afternoon?
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Well, we did walk this morning, and later morning coffee - saw your brother for a quick chat. He looks well but tired. But no good book this afternoon - nor the Good Book either. Dlet cut the grass while I did the edges, then we all swam. A quiet sit now then out to dinner.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Glad to have Middle home, he was discharged yesterday after 8 days in hospital on IV antibiotics for osteomyelitis. Probably just concurrent and unrelated to the mycoplasma that showed up first. He's still hobbling but in good spirits and feeling well.
I gardened today, and have annoying sore muscles as a result. Biggest was supposed to have his last cricket game of the season (10 am start at Blacktown) but mercifully they had to forfeit.
I'm playing in church tomorrow morning, then it is the parade of the sick at family lunch at Chez Curly.
mr curly
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thanks for the update Mr Curly - I opened the thread to ask about him. Pity about the forfeit, but maybe next week will see a good victory.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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B1.2 (the sporty one) was one of 14 kids chosen from his school to do a tryout at the Brumbies home ground this week. He had never played rugby before, and played in his sneakers. When I asked how he went in the 7 a side game, he replied he managed 3 tries and one good tackle, and was ticked off by those watching as one of the top three on field.
His mother is now seriously freaked out because she has never wanted him to play body contact footy. As the grandparents in the middle we are watching with interest as to how this develops...oh dear!
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Three tries sounds like a very good start - well done him!
Glad to hear Middle C. is doing well, Mr. C. - long may that continue.
[ 16. March 2014, 01:31: Message edited by: piglet ]
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Banner Lady: When my housekeeper/friend's son was younger (having shown no interest whatsoever in sport before) suddenly informed his mother he was going to play rugby, she fought a rearguard action for the same reasons as your grandson's parent. She lost.
Strangely enough, he survived and thrived for three years of league play, with nothing more than a strained ankle. And she went to every game, even if she sometimes closed her eyes.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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I am happy (read ecstatic) to announce that I am engaged to be married.
FD will marry us, I have yet to think of a pseudonym for my intended.
A very, very happy (read ecstatic!) JtC.
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on
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Congratulations!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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What lovely news, James. Congratulations!
Posted by Japes (# 5358) on
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Congratulations, JtC and intended!
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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How lovely! Yay!
We led a great ecumenical service today. We had a green theme, Irish and all, with appropriate food and clothes, and prizes. All three churches take a couple of ecumenical events a year, and it kicks off with St Patricks Day. Somehow, we got it a few years ago... And had it ever since. Some express surprise, that we do the saints so well. Me too. It's just one of those things!but we had fun.
60 people came. We sang our hearts out, and enthusiastically greeted everyone. Fun!
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Thank you.
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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Congratulations James!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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And congratulations from us as well (coming late to the thread).
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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And congratulations from all the way over here, too.
[edited to make some semblance of sense!]
[ 16. March 2014, 10:08: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Thanks for the update Mr Curly - I opened the thread to ask about him. Pity about the forfeit, but maybe next week will see a good victory.
Unfortunately, the season has ended with a whimper - no more games.
JtC.
mr curly
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Congratulations, JtC! Wonderful news
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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James, that is fabulous. Congratulations to James the Confident and Confidently James's. There will, no doubt, be shipwide celebrations on the happy day, and I look forward to running up some bunting.
Rowen: I spoke at an ecumenical gathering this weekend too - held in a Baptist Church down your way. Some of the locals were very surprised when this Anglican explained why it's perfectly okay to thank God for St.Pat.
Two daughters feeling a bit green today thanks to a big night out on the town. No doubt the green beer will be flowing freely today, and the road will be rising to meet a few folk by the end of it.
Happy St.Patrick's Day!
Posted by Alban (# 9047) on
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Congrats James!!!
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on
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Coming out of lurkerdom to say how happy I am for you, James! Congratulations!
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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James – congratulations, prayers, and all good wishes to you both for a long and happy life together.
GG
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Hearty congratulations, James - every reason to be even more confident now with regards to life!
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Congratulations James. Lovely news for a Monday morning.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
... the locals were very surprised when this Anglican explained why it's perfectly okay to thank God for St.Pat ...
Because he sort of was an Anglican - the church that he founded grew to become the Church of Ireland, before the Roman missionaries* went to Ireland. Also, most of his mission was in what is now Northern Ireland; when we lived there we liked to think that he was the Secretary of the Select Vestry at Saul, near Downpatrick ...
Also, huge congratulations to James and the future Mrs. Confident!
* The Roman Catholic church in Ireland is sometimes playfully referred to as "the Italian Mission".
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Congratulations James How exciting!
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Congratulations James
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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WoW James
Sorry it's so late - I was shipless yesterday.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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This is just incredible and has to stop.
Miss M's older sister fell at school a week ago. Result was a greenstick fracture of left wrist. Full cast was put on only yesterday after swelling subsided.
She was leap frogging another girl at Girls' Brigade last night. Don't ask, I don't know whether this was approved and supervised or just something they were doing.
Right arm now has back cast from hand to above elbow, waiting for swelling to subside for full cast to go on. She's normally intelligent and sensible. Someone suggested her sub conscious was devising ways of receiving attention now Miss M has been getting lots.
Picture here.
Accidentally posted this in Depression thread. My apologies.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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For Miss M, miss M's sister and all involved
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Prayers for both girls Lothlorien!
I once had three brothers in my Scout troop. Their mother had to rush to the childrens hospital Emergency with one boy each on 3 consecutive nights. I forget now what the first two had done but I remember that the third had placed his hand on a table and dared his brothers to try to hit it with rocks. He lost.
The last time she barely got out of the hospital without child abuse charges but the boys were credible and as she told the nurse The three of them share the brain of a flea!
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Congratulations to James and MsConfidential.
I'll buy you a drink at the SCA conference if you are still going.
Prayers for the girls, Lothlorien.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Lothlorien and the girls.
My younger niece had no fear when she was little and was always falling off things and breaking bones; I think at one stage she had an arm and a leg in plaster at the same time, and yes - my sister was beginning to worry that the staff at A & E were thinking the unthinkable.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Cyclone Lusi obviously blew the pigeons off course: congratulations, James!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Grrrr! I have just tried to contact the pastor of the church where Miss T was when she broke her arm at Girls' Brigade. I'm not angry but am very upset. The family has enough to deal with.
The arm is too swollen for a definitive diagnosis. There could be a break ten centimetres above elbow. Possibly one the same distance below elbow and possibly both shadows are breaks.
I have poked around in a dozen different ways and can find no email for the church. The phone number on each of those sites rings out.
Miss T had permanent plaster for break done at school last Monday. She went to Girls' Brigade that night. She and her sister have gone for years and love it.
According to her dad, they were using a small trampoline to be a springboard to leapfrog over another girl. The leader at this activity was assured by Miss T that she would be fine , so she allowed her to do it.
I am trying to find some way to communicate and to say that leadership does not always mean allowing the underlings to do what they want. Sometimes tough decisions have to be enforced. This leader was lacking in various ways as far as I can see. His leadership selection may need tightening and it appears that more training is definitely needed for those chose,.
The kid is in a lot of pain still. Has two knuckles visible on left hand and none on right with a cast almost to her shoulder Everyday activity is virtually impossible for her right now, including very basic activities like feeding and cleaning herself.
As I said, not angry but very upset.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Poor Miss T. When I saw the picture you posted, the first thing I thought was "how on earth is she going to go to the loo?"
While no-one would blame you for wanting to blame the GB leader, they've probably been doing the trampolining thing for years with no consequences whatsoever, and what happened to Miss T. was a (very) unlucky accident. When my niece went back to gym class after one of her breaks (I think she was about five at the time), the teacher told my sister that she made a bee-line for the wall-bars - the thing she fell off in the first place - completely devoid of fear.
Prayers continuing for all of you.
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Lothlorien. I would be angry.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
Lothlorien. I would be angry.
I have emailed the organisation for the club. Pointed out that duty of care and safety trumps being considered nice any day. Also said perhaps more training may help prevent such accidents in the future.
And have come inside and listened to some meditative readings accompanied by the sounds of a creek.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
Congratulations to James and MsConfidential.
I'll buy you a drink at the SCA conference if you are still going.
Prayers for the girls, Lothlorien.
I'm still going. I'll hold you to the drink!
Thank you all for your congratulations, I am over the moon. As I said FD is coming to Melbourne to marry us. What a lovely man he is.
Loth., I think it is time your troubles stopped too. You seem to have a huge burden to bear, thoughts and prayers ascending.
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Will be delighted to meet you and buy you that drink. I'll see if I can get LKKspouse along.
Clarence also is lovely.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by James the Confident:
As I said FD is coming to Melbourne to marry us.
That's so greedy. Besides, I thought he was already married.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by James the Confident:
As I said FD is coming to Melbourne to marry us.
That's so greedy. Besides, I thought he was already married.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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I'd heard that some parts of the Australian church were rather different from the rest of us, but I didn't realise they were quite that different ...
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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You're right Piglet, they're a weird mob over there
The Christchurch City Council is having to hold back on some spending due to a smaller budget because of fewer ratepayers. So far the scheme to clean up the Heathcote - the river at the end of my street - has had a funding cut and the safer cycleways have been put off for 3 years
If they do anything to hold back on the new central library I will chain myself to some railings (if I can find some).
Cycle accidents have already increased since the quakes and the Heathcote is the most polluted river in NZ Cancel the covered sports stadium I say! (but not too loudly or I'd probably be lynched).
Huia
[ 26. March 2014, 09:10: Message edited by: Huia ]
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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You're in good company, Huia - St. John's city council laid off two-thirds of their snow-plough operators the week before we got 8 inches of snow ...
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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The Good Ship Curly seems to be sailing with a favourable breeze.
I have this week secured the services of two fabulous young men to play the leads in the Good Friday procession I'm directing for Wesley Mission. It will be tight, but we'll make it.
Middle is improving, and is applying himself to his school work and the catching up process with all due diligence.
Through nothing other than asking, I have secured for myself a one hour interview on one of the preeminent podcasts in the indie publishing world. It's some time away, but will be a huge boost to my profile etc.
Then, yesterday I took a call from a certain august boys school not far from home ( Gee D I think you know the one) offering Biggest a full scholarship for Year 11 and 12. We are somewhat taken aback, he's rather pleased with himself.
Feeling quite overwhelmed with blessings.
mr curly
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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That is excellent news all around Mr Curly. Shall Biggest by playing rugby as well as cricket?
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
That is excellent news all around Mr Curly. Shall Biggest by playing rugby as well as cricket?
I understand the school is moving towards taking AFL more seriously, with a trial game actually happening this Sunday against Biggest's club team. That will be his winter game, I suspect.
mr curly
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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What! AFL!
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Wow awesome news Mr C. Without delving into the finer details too much was there a process like the year 7 scholarship system or is this more akin to the headhunting process?
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Originally posted by Evangeline:
Wow awesome news Mr C. Without delving into the finer details too much was there a process like the year 7 scholarship system or is this more akin to the headhunting process?
Pretty much as for Yr 7, but many fewer applicants, as far as we could tell from attendance at the exam.
mr curly
PS Don't be too concerned about AFL, Gee D. I'm sure they want him bowling at first change for the first XI in 2015/16, and for his music.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Wasn't AFL originally developed to keep cricketers fit and happy in the winter season?
GG
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Yes, he will bring those qualities to school, but why not play rugby, the game they play in heaven. BTW, what instrument is he playing now? My recollection is that years ago it was the euphonium.
GG - AFL may be ok for Melbourne and places like that, but not here. Then again, there was a game of baseball on the SCG the other day - the power of the almighty dollar.
Posted by Garasu (# 17152) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Why not play rugby, the game they play in heaven.
You realize I'm now going to spend days working out which position each archangel plays?!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Congratulations to him, Mr Curly.
I do find the thought of AFL a bit strange.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Biggest stopped trumpet coincident with getting braces. He's doing 8th grade on piano, and currently playing guitar in the Stage Band. He wants to learn double bass and is pestering me to get same AS WELL AS a drum kit. He's apparently starting two rock bands with him on guitar in one and drums in another.
Meeting with Head of Music at new school this week to plan ahead.
Middle is the eupho player.
Just finished a 10,000 word novella set in 2018 called "Botox Apocalypse." No zombies, though. Next I've got to work on a novel I'm writing with a mate that needs a structural edit. Today's big question is whether or not it will be classified as "Christian literature", as this will influence how we finish it off.
And send a few resumes out for some more paying work.
mr curly
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
why not play rugby, the game they play in heaven.
I'm not going there then!
Just had a plumber in to look at renovating the shower and putting one of those lights that also provide warmth into the bathroom as it's really cold since the heater there gave up the ghost. We haven't had a frost yet this year, but yesterday morning was uncomfortably close.
Huia
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Glad to hear things are working out better, Mr. Curly.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thanks for sorting that out Mr Curly. I knew there was a euphonium there somewhere, but have never heard of a music scholarship for it. Piano is much better. You could try and raise some money to buy a Stuart and Sons piano, and be loved by the music department forever.
Garasu, it's very simple. The Father is patron of both teams. His Throne moves up and down the sidelines to keep abreast of the play, the cherubim having been specially trained to move sideways at the ground, not every one straight forward. Of the archangels. Michael is the referee, wielding his mighty sword if needed to keep play moving. Gabriel looks after the PA system and does all the announcements of course. Raphael and Uriel look after the sidelines. Lucifer was sin-binned so long ago that no-one remembers - in fact so long ago that there was no so long ago. Each game ends in a draw.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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The way I heard it was that the fields are so smooth that when you slide you never get a rash and the Welsh always beat the English.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Are there English in heaven? None of them Lions, I'd warrant. As for the X school - there's an extra priest on duty winter Saturdays to hear the 1sts' confessions.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Are there English in heaven?
I sincerely hope so - if I'm going to end up there I want my Better Half to be there too.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Originally posted by piglet:
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Are there English in heaven?
I sincerely hope so - if I'm going to end up there I want my Better Half to be there too.
I reckon a couple of them may get in--just.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Thanks for sorting that out Mr Curly. I knew there was a euphonium there somewhere, but have never heard of a music scholarship for it. Piano is much better. You could try and raise some money to buy a Stuart and Sons piano, and be loved by the music department forever.
It's an "Allrounder" scholarship, with no particular expectations on music or sport participation. Still pinching self.
Little Miss, absent from recent dispatches, is now 2/2 at netball this year. Last year they won 3 all season, and one win in each of the prior years. They seem to be enjoying themselves bit more in the lower grade.
Have mowed the lawn, and will now be pottering around until our favourite family comes over for home-made burgers, icecreams and a movie(for the kids) tonight.
Tomorrow, we're hosting our niece's 8th birthday party. It should be fun, apart from the fact that the reason we're doing it is her mother's Motor Neuron Disease. We're aiming to make it BIG!!
mr curly
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thanks for sorting that out. I assume he starts at the beginning of nest year Yr 11? You'll all have a new vocabulary to learn, along with the pleasures of long drives on Saturdays to sport. At least he's plenty old enough to get himself to and from school - and perhaps find it necessary to change trains at Pymble or Gordon.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Have they finally stopped calling year 11 5th form GeeD?
[ 30. March 2014, 10:08: Message edited by: Evangeline ]
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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AFAIK, yes. I can't tell you the time it finally changed, but changed it has.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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What a day! Left home at sparrow's to play in church this morning. Middle and two of his buddies playing in the band as well.
Then home to host the party for my niece, then pick up Biggest from AFL. Then back to church for a drama rehearsal. Next was our once a term open mic afternoon, played for 3 songs from Good Friday production. Kids all played in various combos. Did I play in church tonight after that? Yes, I did.
I am officially "tired and shagged out after a long squawk."
On the travel front, Biggest headed off to Artarmon OC in Year 5, so traveling is a snip for him.
mr curly
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Travelling is possibly more interesting at 16 than 10.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Travelling is possibly more interesting at 16 than 10.
We were never allowed to talk on the train to the boys from that school or the one up the road a bit, unless the boy was related. Lots of cousins were found.
I think that rule may have fallen by the wayside, judging by other behaviour I see from those girls on the trains. Sitting on the floor near the door! Not to mention no gloves or hats and lots of them wear jewellery.
[ 30. March 2014, 21:08: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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When I went to school at Canterbury in the sixties, the formidable Miss Gordon, fondly known as the Gorgon, was the principal of the girls' school. It was of course the era of the miniskirt, and the girls used to blouse their tunics over their belts to achieve the requisite fashionable length above the knee. If Miss Gordon spotted any of her girls in this state while she was driving to work, the culprit was summoned to her office and the belt of the tunic confiscated for 24 hours, so the girl had to go home that afternoon and return the following morning in something resembling a box-pleated potato sack.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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We had uniform inspections at gates for jewellery, berets worn wrongly etc. As lines banked up, the later arrivals could be seen polishing the tops of their shoes by rubbing foot across backs of legs so stockings polished the shoes. Berets were to be worn at a certain angle and school badges in a particular spot on beret. Hair had to be tied back with proper coloured ribbons.
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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Ah, uniform inspections! The equally formidable Mr J O Kimble was the responsible staff member at the boys' school, and you could hear his basso profundo as he proceeded through the lines on morning assembly. "You! Out!" was the obbligato to the daily announcements. The miscreants were then lined up before the whole school while their names were recorded for detention.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Did any of you lucky women have to wear the scourge of my adolescence, rompers? I was blessed with both gym frock and rompers - neither of which do much for the teen figure.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Haha Arabella, ours were called bloomers, voluminous things worn under our delightful PE uniform-a short red tunic with a white "girdle" -a thin white tie around the waist and long white socks with black sandshoes. We also had regulation navy blue underpants as part of the regular uniform, the "Mistress -in-charge" of the Junior school (yr 3-6) was positively obsessed by ensuring navy blue bonds maxis were worn by everyone.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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A young woman has been murdered and her body was left in the boot of her car in the Supermarket carpark just down the road from me. She was a Community worker.
her family
the supermarket workers, who are a very helpful and friendly bunch.
The police believe she knew the perpetrator.
Apparently an increase in violent crime 3 years after a disaster is not unnexpected.
Christchurch
Huia
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Christchurch, the young woman
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Evangeline:
Haha Arabella, ours were called bloomers, voluminous things worn under our delightful PE uniform-a short red tunic with a white "girdle" -a thin white tie around the waist and long white socks with black sandshoes. We also had regulation navy blue underpants as part of the regular uniform, the "Mistress -in-charge" of the Junior school (yr 3-6) was positively obsessed by ensuring navy blue bonds maxis were worn by everyone.
We had to turn backwards to PE mistress and bend over to have proper colour bloomers inspected under PE tunic. Shoes were black sandshoes with surname painted on toecap with white paint.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Was it Hornsby where u went to school Loth or did I imagine that?
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Evangeline:
Was it Hornsby where u went to school Loth or did I imagine that?
Yes, that's it.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
... We had to turn backwards to PE mistress and bend over to have proper colour bloomers inspected ...
If she tried to make you do that these days, she'd be locked up and the key thrown away.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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That's weird, wonder why my post has repeated itself?
We had the same inspection routine. My era was that of witches britches (if anyone remembers them) and there were usually 3 or 4 girls wearing them at a surprise inspection.
Now I think about it, the concern lavished over girls' underwear was a bit peculiar.
I have noticed that where it was a point of honour never to have your socks pulled up in my generation, the current generation are inveterate puller upperers. Very tidy.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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We had something that we thought was worse than rompers. An all-in-one garment that had a romper shaped bottom, and then straight up so it buttoned over the shoulder. Sort of like a larger size of baby romper suit without the lower opening. We called them 'frog-suits' and they were an unbecomming shade of green. The idea was that you wouldn't have that unseemly display of flesh when the blouse became untucked from the rompers. A year or so later a short wrap-around skirt was added.
My least-favourite everyday piece of the winter uniform was the tie. One name tag inspection day I disgraced myself by totally forgetting to put it on and had to report to the Senior Mistress who was quite strict. I was a bit worried about it, but she just looked at me and sighed, in a sort of 'what are we going to do with you?' kind of way.
Loth, we wore the beret with a badge too, but it was discontinued for the rest of the school when I was in the 6th form (uniforms were optional for 6th and 7th formers).
I remember witches britches. About 10 years ago my mothers' cousin, then about 90 asked me if they were still being made as they were really good for keeping warm in Christchurch winters. She was definitely a fan.
Huia
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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FWIW, those in the pipe band are supposed to go commando when dressed in kilts. What's wrong is that senior band officers check that the rule's being observed.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
We had something that we thought was worse than rompers. An all-in-one garment that had a romper shaped bottom, and then straight up so it buttoned over the shoulder. Sort of like a larger size of baby romper suit without the lower opening. We called them 'frog-suits' and they were an unbecomming shade of green. The idea was that you wouldn't have that unseemly display of flesh when the blouse became untucked from the rompers. A year or so later a short wrap-around skirt was added.
Yep, that's worse than rompers! We had a tie as well - only the girls, the boys didn't have to wear one, which still seems strange to me.
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on
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Wow. All these scary school stories match my Mrs McKenna, who would ask us to kneel so that she could see that the sports uniform was the regulation 20cm from the ground to hem, as well as checking (with a slight turn up of said hem) that the matching bloomers were being worn, make us make our ties longer (not something that looked like a bow tie sideways), and yet didn't consider that our hats were ridiculous (didn't keep off any Qld sun at all), nor did she consider that the pleated skirts were wind traps and provided much entertainment for the ogling boys in the August westerlys.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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O Lord, that brings back school memories. Just imagine the idiocy of having to wear a wool blazer, beret, gloves and thick tights in the sub-tropics. We regularly had girls fainting on the parade ground.
And yes, there were the regulation nanna undies that replaced the ridiculous bloomers early in the 1970's.
Uniform inspections involved kneeling before the headmistress who would measure the gap between skirt hem and floor. If it was more than 4 inches the offender was ordered to either hoik her uniform down if it was rolled, or given scissors, needle and thread to re-hem the offending garment to the right length.
If the tights were deemed too thin (or non-existant - it was very daring, and wonderfully cool, to come to school bare legged with ankle socks rolled down) then the head mistress issued you with manky old cast offs from the lost property collection. Shudder.
Doubt whether any head teacher would be allowed to behave like that these days, thank goodness.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:
That's weird, wonder why my post has repeated itself?
I wondered that too, APW, so I've deleted the duplicate.
Piglet, AS host
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
FWIW, those in the pipe band are supposed to go commando when dressed in kilts. What's wrong is that senior band officers check that the rule's being observed.
I would have thought that in these cautious times, such practices would have been left behind.
As for the joy of train travel, the current Person of Interest travels to Ravenswood by car, I happen to know.
mr curly
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
FWIW, those in the pipe band are supposed to go commando when dressed in kilts. What's wrong is that senior band officers check that the rule's being observed.
I would have thought that in these cautious times, such practices would have been left behind.
As for the joy of train travel, the current Person of Interest travels to Ravenswood by car, I happen to know.
mr curly
Pun intended?
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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You would hope that that practice had stopped a decade or more ago, but it continued until at least 3 years ago, with at least 1 of the team checking on observance of the rule being an otherwise very pleasant young man.
Perhaps you meant the present Person of Interest. Who knows what will happen tomorrow, let alone months down the track (and that one was intended).
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Great news. Miss M went to school today for the first time this year apart from a class photo. Just for time after lunch, but school and friends. She couldn't wear normal uniform as easy access to central line is required. She wore sports uniform with a T-shirt top.
School sends work home and twice a week if she'd in hospital, specially trained teachers with a few tricks up their sleeves visit her. But it's not school.
She's back in hospital for 3-4 days from Sunday night for the start of eight weeks of chemo which will see her hospitalised for several days every fortnight.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Great news. Miss M went to school today for the first time this year ...
That is great news, Loth - prayers continuing for the success of her next lot of treatment.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Wow! Well done Miss M!
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on
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The Marama and I are now more or less settled back in Canberra after many years in Fiji.
Housewarming party this weekend, timed to co-incide with our 40th wedding anniversary.
Perhaps a shipmeet later?
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Congratulations, Tukai, and health to enjoy life back in Oz!
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Congrats.
I would drive over to Canberra and go to a meet, and errr... Shop.
Not that I am into shopping of course. I just need to ummmm SEE some, and know that big cities still exist.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Clarence:
nor did she consider that the pleated skirts were wind traps and provided much entertainment for the ogling boys in the August westerlys.
And rightly not. Quality entertainment for young men is so hard to find.
Sadly I went to an all boys' school from the time I was eight.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Come and visit us Piglet to enjoy the weather. Early April here, and cold walking to and from the station today. Madame says the maximum was well below 20. Only early April!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I found yesterday quite chilly, even down here on the plain. Today I ate breakfast on balcony at just after 6:00 am and was fine. More cloud has arrived and temperature has dropped.
Miss M is back in hospital since Sunday evening. Back was sore yesterday after yet another spinal tap and bone marrow biopsy. Can't be too many more sots to do this, average now is just over weekly. However, she was feeling better last night and tolerated first does of this chemo round reasonably.
Was able to sign her name to some thank you notes which her dad wrote to those who had sent her gifts from a knitters' group.
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Waving across town to Tukai.
Also sending some yays up the Hume for Miss M.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Come and visit us Piglet to enjoy the weather ...
I'd love to, Gee D - like all Brits, I've got Australian Relations™. Two of my great-aunts emigrated in the early years of the 20th century (not sure if it was before or after the Great War), and their descendants are still scattered over Australia.
I'll keep buying the lottery tickets ...
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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You might prefer Christchurch in NZ though, heading to a max of only 14 today.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Hmmm ... New Zealand in 14° sounds heavenly - from all the pictures I've seen of it it's probably the prettiest country on earth.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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South Island is gorgeous! North Island is lovely but for sheer stunning beauty South Island can't be beat for Temperate Zone loveliness.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Maybe wait til it stops raining. I'm blaming the visiting royals.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
You might prefer Christchurch in NZ though, heading to a max of only 14 today.
Christchurch is the best city in the world (apart from the blocked roads which are a total nightmare, even for taxi drivers, who are usually good at finding the quickest routes). The weather is damp, but still within double digits (celcius), at least during the day.
Aso there are some slightly weird people here (besides me) which makes life interesting.
Huia
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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I'd like to see the Cardboard Cathedral.
GG
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Not just pretty, but clean and fresh - air, water, skies all clean. Queenstown is even better than Christchurch and rather cooler.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
I'd like to see the Cardboard Cathedral.
GG
I really liked it. I was down briefly last week and I asked my colleague to take me there in between work sessions. Its simple and memorable.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Queenstown is an ugly little town in an abdolutely stunning setting, in my totally biassed opinion.
One of the drawbacks in Christchurch is that it contains NZ's most polluted river, the Heathcote which flows at the end of my street. What's worse is that it's slipped down the list in terms of the priority for a clean-up At times of heavy rain sewerage has been detected in the water.
I love my city, but I'm not always proud of it.
Huia
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Tomorrow evening I depart for Perth to see my betrothed.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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James, enjoy your visit.
Arabella I haven't been in the transitional cathedral yet, but one of the teachers at the Catholic school where I volunteer was very enthusiastic about it.
Huia
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Congratulations to Tukai & Marama on surviving 40 years together. Every decade has its challenges.
Can I just say that while I am absolutely fine about living with my grandchildren, living with one's adult children is not necessarily the healthiest thing for relationships. *sigh*
Fortunately the "nan-cave" as my studio is now being called, passed inspection by the authorities this week, and we can commence work on the interior. It is still a couple of months away from being inhabitable, so I am busy landscaping around it to get some semblance of sanity back in my days.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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One week until Good Friday. Which means one week until my musical version of the Easter story is unleashed on the streets of Sydney.
Gather at Martin Place Amphitheatre from 1.30 for 2 pm atart. About a 20 min drama, then procession up Pitt St with a conclusion on Pitt St outside Wesley Mission.
It's a bit out there. I hope it all goes ok.
mr curly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Can I just say that while I am absolutely fine about living with my grandchildren, living with one's adult children is not necessarily the healthiest thing for relationships. *sigh*
I share your feelings, although both of us are being very careful here. My problem is that this is a two bedroom apartment. Quite reasonable sized rooms, although it would suit a couple more than two individuals. However, son bought a queen sized bed because the sofa bed is not made for permanent use. That meant lounge had to be re-arranged to put sofa bed in there as well as my two seater lounge. It works, sort of.
When I lived with son and DIL, we were fortunate that both houses we lived in were very large with plenty of space to get away from each other. Hope you get your retreat fixed soon.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Just an extra thought. Perhaps the "nan-cave" is a nan only area unless special invitations are issued. Make it a privilege for an invitation to be given, rather than declaring it a no-go zone.
Have things there which nourish you, not just the craft type stuff. Music, pictures, books etc Just a few things which you can change regularly.
Tonight may see five of us here for the weekend. Son, myself, possibly the 15 year old but I don't know about his soccer. Miss T, 11, who now has only one arm in plaster and perhaps Miss M. We were expecting her but she was readmitted to hospital last night after throwing up all afternoon. Anti-nausea drugs effect ran out before nausea caused by latest chemo. Poor kid.
Two girls will sleep on sofa bed and their brother gets an air mattress on floor and all has to be put away through the day or we all fall over each other.
[ 10. April 2014, 22:35: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Today is the first anniversary of my Dad's death. Next Thursday I will visit his and Mum's grave for the first time since we interred his ashes. It will be strange being in the town where I grew up and not going to the family home, which has been sold, but going to stay with my youngest brother, K and his family instead. I don't even know if I will make it to an Easter service as the Anglican church I went to has been closed and I'm not sure whether the Union Church ia still operating either.
I am not really looking forward to going, except that I may get in a bush walk or two with K, which would be great. And J my nephew will need all his patience to help me master my i-pod nano.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Prayers for you, Huia. First anniversaries are always hard. But so are others. It's just past 4 years since Mum died, but it's her birthday next week, so more thoughts.
Hope you get the bush walk in.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Little Miss back from school camp.
Biggest and Middle off to church camp.
No sport.
mr curly
dancing at the top of the page on a Friday night.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
Urologist arrived and decided it wasn't a torsion. Sent home. We'll see how he is this morning.
mr curly
10 weeks later and on return from church camp yesterday, Biggest was again in pain and taken off to hospital. Operated on last night. Turns out it was a cyst rather than a torsion. All fine.
Now I'm short a guitarist for Good Friday!
mr curly
[ 14. April 2014, 20:38: Message edited by: Mr Curly ]
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Well, at least you're only short a guitarist for one night. Biggest could have been short forever.
Prayers for his rapid recovery.
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Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Prayers for his quick recovery, Mr Curly, and thanks for the discovery of the real problem.
Prayers also for Good Friday . Having been involved in that for some years in the past, I understand something of the tensions etc, even though things have changed.
It used to be the procession and then an afternoon and evening performance at Pitt St for the choir. Sometimes something on Saturday. Then Sunday was service at Opera hOuse which involved leaving home at 4:00 for travel, changing and rehearsals. At least another two performances on the same day. I was always glad Monday was also a holiday.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Prayers for Biggest - glad to hear they found out what was the matter and were able to put it right.
Easter Monday isn't a holiday for me, which is unfortunate as we have a service at 6:00 a.m. on Easter Day, and a bit of sleep catch-up wouldn't go amiss ...
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Mr Curly: many thanks for the good outcome for your son, even though the situation was probably very squicky for him. Benign cysts are a bugger (says me, who has had several of those in various sensitive places) because of their ability to mimic cancerous tumours. My last two (post cancer) terrified the shit out of me and I was so relieved to hear of the biopsy results that I didn't mind the disruption in my life, anymore.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Biggest
The big supermarket down the road re=opened late last week. It was a casualty of the quakes so having it back is another step iin the recovery of Christchurch It was kind of weird going there today though because I kept expecting to see my mother's cousin, who died some time ago We often met up there as she lived fairly close.
It was announced at Church that T one of the blokes has fallen quite badly and today I discovered he had broken his neck. He is elderly so it will take some time to heal .
Huia
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Thanks all. Home from hospital, he's a little sore but all OK.
Chaos does reign, though, with Middle's twice postponed birthday party on tonight. They've gone to the movies.
There is a Coopers Sparkling Ale in the fridge with my name on it.
mr curly
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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There is a Coopers Sparkling Ale in the fridge with my name on it.
mr curly
Jealous. Though I've just had one.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Thought you swore off the evil drink for the duration of Lent?
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Originally posted by PeteC:
Thought you swore off the evil drink for the duration of Lent?
Sprung!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Sprung indeed! I reneged for Passion week ... (under a whole heap of pressure from a myriad directions: though that is an explanation, far from an excuse).
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Thought you swore off the evil drink for the duration of Lent?
By the time Zappa reads this, in New Zealand it'll be 16th April, the feast day of St. Magnus, which IMHO is enough excuse to have some beer.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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a little early in the morning though
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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My grandfather used to insist to me, "be sure your sins will find you out." Good advice which the NSW premier should have remembered.
His memory was very faulty yesterday when fronting the Independent Commission Against Corruption down here. No, he had no memory at all of the $300 bottle of Grange Hermitage given him as a gift. One paper this morning described his evidence as unconvincing and dishonest.
He has just resigned after ICAC produced a hand-written letter of thanks from him.
Now for all the others who "can't recall" various matters and their reactions to such matters.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Minor correction, but more memorable, Loth - It was $2978 worth of Grange, not $300.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Pity Mr Abbott won't do the same.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Minor correction, but more memorable, Loth - It was $2978 worth of Grange, not $300.
Bad typo.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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... he had no memory at all of the $300 bottle of Grange Hermitage given him as a gift ...
Maybe he'd drunk it the previous night and his memory wasn't working very well ...
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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I had thought that despite his massive incompetency at least he wasn't corrupt like the pervious government had been in huge proportions NSW aaaaggggghhhhh.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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I had thought that despite his massive incompetency at least he wasn't corrupt like the pervious government had been in huge proportions NSW aaaaggggghhhhh.
I think "corruption" is way too strong a word for this incident. I note that the ICAC is not following through to charge Mr O'Farrell with any misconduct.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Originally posted by rexory:
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Originally posted by Evangeline:
I had thought that despite his massive incompetency at least he wasn't corrupt like the pervious government had been in huge proportions NSW aaaaggggghhhhh.
I think "corruption" is way too strong a word for this incident. I note that the ICAC is not following through to charge Mr O'Farrell with any misconduct.
This is true, but I think it is also fair (and unfortunately necessary) to add "yet" to that sentence. I live in Barry's electorate, and the the mood yesterday was complete shock.
I doubt Sinodinos or Abbott slept last night. As for Abbott's performance yesterday in attempting to bully a journalist into "withdrawing" a question - a tough question but one that is on everyone's mind - it was appalling. Shame the bottle of wine wasn't delivered to a nearby address instead of to BOF's house.
mr curly
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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What a gift for the Poujardists around - an expensive bottle of wine, a Premier - and tales of conspiracy, corruption and privilege take off.
We're in his electorate, although we have not voted for him. He's been a good local member and showed every sign of decency one could imagine. It's a great pity he's gone. Let's hope that Labour gets a half-competent looking leader very quickly as there is now a chance for the election next March (fixed 4 year terms here).
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Originally posted by Evangeline:
I had thought that despite his massive incompetency at least he wasn't corrupt like the pervious government had been in huge proportions NSW aaaaggggghhhhh.
I think "corruption" is way too strong a word for this incident. I note that the ICAC is not following through to charge Mr O'Farrell with any misconduct.
It appears that he did receive the bottle, as nothing else would have prompted the thank you note. His key failing, rather than one of memory, is one of process. He should have been as careful, on receipt of the wine, to record the gift as one that needed to be appropriately registered as he was to write the thank you note. He was already a member of parliament and should already have had such a process in place.
If the gift had been correctly registered, he wouldn't have had to rely on memory.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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I agree corruption is too strong a word, I just find NSW politics atm extremely frustrating, perhaps Barry got sick of being strong armed by the extreme right of the NSW Liberal party and he wasn't that sorry to go.
It was good manners that did him in it appears!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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It's a bit strange - Bruce Baird, Mike's father, was the local member before O'Farrell.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Miserable Good Friday, all ;-)
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Half an hour to show time at Martin Place.
Yikes!
mr curly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Hope you're still standing, Mr C.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Hope you're still standing, Mr C.
Yes. All went well considering Jesus had a cold after riding a donkey in the rain last Sunday. Good coverage on SBS news tonight.
Off to Wollombi tomorrow to rest for a few days.
mr curly
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Good result Mr Curly. And has Biggest stopped counting yet?
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Off to Wollombi tomorrow to rest for a few days.
Lucky you. we had 40 acres there for some years and built a place. Turned off at Laguna and went up past Hunter Lodge.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Up and at it, Easter morn
Happy Easter, y'all
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Christ is risen, Alleluia! He is risen and glorified indeed, Alleluia! (Going to 8 am, not 5.30,)
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Halleluja, Halleluja...my last service at the big house today; thereafter will be returning from the wondrously remote to most thankfully worshiping closer to home.
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Have a lovely Easter!
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Awake in Sydney after seeing the Swans win yesterday. Being in the same situation as last year, I'll be going down to the Railway Mission.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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As it's now already Sunday for you Down Under, I'll wish you all a happy Easter.
Go easy on the chocolate ...
Posted by cosmic dance (# 14025) on
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A joyful Easter service this morning - yesterday the church children had painted a sunrise banner in red, orange and yellow with heaps of gold glitter making the sun's rays. Today we used it for our frontal and the sun shining in the high windows at just the right angle made it sparkle.
Simple and lovely and home-made by the kids - perfect.
Easter blessings to all.
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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Happy Easter to all!
The triduum has come to its conclusion with a lovely service at our country church, as all emerged from worship into the bright sunshine. Our clergy and serving teams have taken us on the Easter journey in faith and with style across our three centres, and we give thanks for their ministry to us.
Christ is risen! He is risen indeed! Alleluia!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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The standard of editing at the Sydney Morning Herals has slipped woefully lately, on iPad,website and on paper. Sometimes the slips online are fixed quickly, sometimes not. However, I just had a good laugh. Not exactly a typo or grammatical or spelling error, but proper editing should have picked this up. The Sydney Diocese will not be happy.
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ROYAL AUSTRALIAN TOUR - DAY 5
Prince William and Prince Kate leaving St Andrews after Easter Sunday Mass, Sydney. Photo: Sasha Woolley
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Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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The creed used to speak of the "quick and the dead." I decided to get a screen shot of the quote above, but I wasn't quick enough and it had gone, moved on to Taronga Zoo.
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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I got the screenshot Loth, and have it saved as a pdf.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Well done!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Three eucharists this morning and they buzzed ... happy boy because I think this was the last performance anxiety week of my first year, and the eye-rollers who consider the new dean to be incompetent are beginning to shut up ...
Posted by AdamPater (# 4431) on
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Happy Easter one and all. He is risen!
I served at two masses this morning but they both seemed a tad lack-lustre. I have the impression all the oomphff must have been poured into yesterday's vigil mass. I'm puzzling over whether this is a new thing: I'm sure I haven't noticed it before.
Wha'eva. He lives!
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Happy Easter, He is risen!
Lovely Easter Day, a full house of happy children at Sunday school, great Dim Sum at Mr Wongs afterwards followed by painting eggs with my niece and God Daughter followed by sitting in the sun. A quiet glass of wine in front of Compass's look at Mary Magdalen.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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We are three adjoining suburban congregations, all affected by earthquake assessments and falling income, and facing the prospect of becoming parts of a hub. Already we've shared summer holiday services, and Lenten study groups have shared members.
So for Easter Day we filled the largest church and it was great. Enough children to make the kids' contribution quite a feature, and a good mingling of old and new friends over 'munch' (too late for morning tea and too early for lunch). The Grandad insisted on coming and meeting the people who always enquire after him. And the organist let rip as we ended with 'Thine be the glory'.
GG
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Yes, on the ground ecumenism can work and work well, with goodwill, faith, and a lot of hard work. When it all comes together - like our Lenten and Advent services and the Palm Sunday procession through part of the local shops, it is an uplifting experience. An essential requirement is an acceptance of and respect for the particular traditions and approach of the partners.
Back to the SMH - it describes the device that the Cambridges went to yesterday as a thoroughly Australian Easter Sunday Service. I think that the one Barnabas Aus attended would better fill that description.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Back to the SMH - it describes the device that the Cambridges went to yesterday as a thoroughly Australian Easter Sunday Service. I think that the one Barnabas Aus attended would better fill that description.
Well, it was bright and sunny with an autumnal crunch to the air.
Good to see the choir getting some publicity too.
I will say I had a good chuckle at their title of Easter Sunday Mass at St Andrews. Quickly amended.
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Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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... the organist let rip as we ended with 'Thine be the glory' ...
That's one thing that I miss here - we use a rather old hymn-book (published in 1938), which is fine in that it doesn't Mess About With The Words, but it was written before the words and tune to Thine be the glory had been put together, so we don't get it.
We had a white Easter - it was still snowing when I got up at 4:30 and there was about 2" on the ground. However, by lunchtime the sun was splitting the rocks and the way the snow had frozen on the trees every branch and twig was sparkling in the sunshine - absolutely stunning.
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Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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It does sound magical, Piglet.
At least the Cambridges would have got a good sermon from ++ Glenn. He is an excellent preacher.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Not ecumenical this time, Gee D: we're two Presy and one Uniting (Presy/Metho) congregations. But yes, the summer holiday services include the Anglicans.
The first time I saw the lifelong Presys going up for communion at St Luke's I was really moved. We're used to doing the same at our own place now, alternating with wee cuppies in our seats or passing the elements in a circle. Last time we were guests at St Luke's they did just that – passing in a circle. So we move on.
GG
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I missed doing any churchy things here in Wellington as the Anglican church in this suburb has disappeared and I don't know where or at what times any other Church operates, apart from the Catholics, who would not appreciate me turning up at Mass. Instead I went bush for some hours on Good Friday after visiting my parents graves. I heard tui, bellbirds and kereru.
Easter Day was spent rescuing the soup from the crockpot which had gone feral and tripped the circuts in the villa my oldest brother occupies, while my nephew and youngest brother put together a kitset TV cabinet complete with 2 drawers. It was not aday of celebration here amongst the heathen.
Home tomorrow.
Huia
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Given the different Eucharist theologies amongst our covenant partners, communion would be difficult. One of the ecumenical activities is that each priest/minister/pastor gives a sermon at each of the others in the group. Our Sunday morning services are all Eucharists. Some of those coming to us take communion, as we observe an open table position, but obviously that cannot happen with the Catholic priest or when visiting that church, for example.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Our own suburb has only Anglican and Presbyterian churches. The Catholic one closed partly from a shortage of priests – it was a small but very active congregation.
So we've always done what we can together with St Luke's; in the past it's always seemed that we'd have a good system going and then a new Vicar would come and we'd start from scratch again.
Some of the Catholics moved a couple of kilometres to the church of St Thomas More, where we and the Anglicans joined them on the World Day of Prayer, always a good time for ecumenical mingling.
GG
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Yes, a relationship like these needs constant hard work, especially when the personnel change. But it is worth it in the long run, just hard work. Perhaps Rowen (if she's listening) can explain here last parish.
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Huia, next time you are in the capital and need a church please contact me and I will be only too happy to help with recommendations or whatever you need,
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I am home No dogs, just Georgie-Porgy going outside, getting wet and coming back in again. (and repeat).
My wonderful family did manage to dig up and save my favourite yellow minature rose before the family home was sold, for which I am grateful.
it's not that they're really noisy, but when you live by yourself suddenly having 3 other adults, 2 dogs and a very vocal cat in a house can be challenging.
Huia
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Good news about Miss M. Doctors are happy with progress so far. She is currently spending 5/14 days in hospital with chemo and associated monitoring for this medicine. A few other clinic times are squashed into the fortnight, but they think she should be able to manage two or three half days at school in the off week of the fortnight.
Sure beats daytime TV and will be good for her to see her friends. Chemo has upset her brain and concentration and daytime TV is no help.
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Excellent, Lothlorien - prayers continuing for your brave wee girl.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Yes, that really is good news Lothlorien, and our prayers continue also.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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yup, prayers continue, Loth
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I find it difficult to express my thanks and those of my son, coherently, let alone adequately, for all the prayers and support here. He is amazed when I tell him who prays for his little daughter. I have also had support of a different kind from another online craft forum to which some on SoF belong. Support, messages, PMs and more have poured in from many different countries and we appreciate them all.
Thank you all. I am adjusting to it, I felt at first as if I had been run over by a bus, but prayers from here have helped tremendously.
She has a way to go yet. We take things one day at a time.
I have just come from the prayer thread with the news of the death of little A, WW's friend. This hit home rather hard and I am praying for his family and friends and for little A.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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For peace, joy and healing for little M.
GG
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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... He is amazed when I tell him who prays for his little daughter ...
And probably a bit bemused that his mum has friends called Galloping Granny, Zappa and Piglet ...
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Possibly, Piglet. I do know he belongs to the froggy forum down here. No idea of his screen name. That's devoted to French cars.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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We wandered up to the ceremony at the local memorial this morning, Dlet as usual wearing the medals from both his grandfathers, and all of us, Dog included, wearing our rosemary. No rain while we were out fortunately, but it felt that it would pour down at any moment. About 300 to 350 people there, which is good considering the weather. Barry O'Farrell was mentioned, and lay a wreath, but did not talk. Saw lots of friends, including Lothlorien's brother - he also wearing rosemary and medals. Then coffee and a second breakfast for all.
A good morning's uninterrupted work followed with a peaceful and domestic afternoon ahead.
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Dawn Service in Bungendore must have had 500 people there. Then back home for the coverage of Canberra and Anzac Cove, and now enjoying Essendon's early lead in the big game.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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That's a good roll-up indeed. We're wondering how many will be there next year.
What big game?
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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We've just spent a couple of days in Taumarunui looking for traces of my great grandparents on my dad's side (there are few other reasons to visit Taumarunui, although the scenery is glorious). Other people go to Fiji, we visit rural NZ! The most exciting part of the trip was driving the back road to Ongarue - dirt all the way, very muddy from the torrential rain - to find what is essentially a ghost of a town. Lots of ghosts in the area: we also went to Matiere and Okahukura, where my (separate sets of)great grandparents lived, and all three towns are barely there.
We had dinner last night at the Taumarunui RSA, which was full of elderly gents and their families, a seriously cultural experience for two lesbians from Wellington. Couldn't beat it for friendliness though.
We were awakened at dawn this morning by bagpipes playing for the dawn service (I met one of the pipers yesterday visiting the Anglican church where my grandmother was employed as the organist in the 1920s). As we drove back to Welly, we went past ANZAC ceremonies in every small town, plus a big one at the Army Museum in Waiouru, complete with a regiment and a big band.
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Apparently our dawn service had a much larger crowd than usual. I was rostered to attend the later morning service and the lunch, where I was one of the speakers. Many of the men who went from our town were miners and engineers who formed the tunnelling corps, so that was my theme, as today is also the anniversary of the disaster at Hill 60 when many officers and men lost their lives when a German trench mortar detonated a mine under preparation in the Allied dugout.
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Arabella, I have a vague memory of reading that Taumarunui had the first public toilets in NZ, which would make it noteworthy at least. (Since the quakes Christchurch has a dearth of them which makes life challenging for thos of us on diuretics so I appreciate the need for them even more than I did before.)
I was going to have a quiet ANZAC Day reading Vanity Fair on my e-reader and generally not socialising at all so I could recover from Easter, but at 1pm I had a call from Christchurch Police Station asking me if I had lost my wallet. I said I didn't really know, but if someone had handed it in I probably had, and that I was talented at that kind of thing. So I toddled off to recover it and check whether my glasses had been handed in at the same time (they hadn't ).
Huia
Huia
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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That's interesting! I'm amazed the lady at the isite didnt mention toilets - she mentioned everything else. It doesn't surprise me, as even today there are lots of trains passing through. In its heyday Taumarunui was the major stop on the Wellington-Auckland trip.
My other ghost towns all started with the building of the railways and the associated logging, although they were associated with the Okahukura-Stratford line, sadly no longer in use. Four tunnels through the hills, all done by manual labour and horses!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Saw lots of friends, including Lothlorien's brother - he also wearing rosemary and medals. Then coffee and a second breakfast for all.
My brother says he stands near back so he can hotfoot it over line to coffee where he met several others.
Quite a good crowd there. To my surprise there was nothing local down here and I did not feel like waiting at secluded bus stop to get into city service.
#2 son is currently in Melbourne but he usually takes his children to a large service west of Parramatta where 800-1000 people gather for dawn service and a huge free breakfast provided by local RSL.
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Posted by Sandemaniac (# 12829) on
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As your antipodes wake up 24 hours late to the party...
Our family ANZAC is buried at Centennial Park Cemetery in Adelaide. Are there any Adelaide based shipmates who might have reason to go there (I say this because I believe that the cemetery is vast and the park humungous!) who would be willing to take some photos? I can unearth (pun intended) the details of the plot.
Many thanks,
AG
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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The service and parade at school draw about 3,750 plus each year. Of course, there are parents and siblings of boys in the unit, but many others attend. We shall again - 3 or 4 weeks down the track.
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I've just googled ANZAC and discovered that the Royal Newfoundland Regiment has a parade here in St. John's today.
What's the significance of the rosemary? Is it "for remembrance" as in Hamlet?
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And not just Hamlet - it goes back to the ancient Greeks, if not before. In effect, rosemary sprigs serve the function here that red poppies do in the UK. Rosemary water was supposed to be good for the eyes also - it gave distant sight.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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I have to share my astonishment and hope to find a receptive audience of literate and literary people here...
Deakin University signage in case you can't see the sign as it's a twitter photo it proclaims "Deakin University: Worldly".
To me and the OED, "worldly" implies temporal and to do with material things espec. money and has connotations of mundane as well as sophisticated with overtones of cynicism. Deakin seems to think it means "world class" from what I understand. I think they've got it wrong and it's a bad look for a uni, or has worldly changed it's meaning completely whilst I wasn't looking.
What think you?
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It strikes me as one of those ghastly sound-bite mottos that modern universities seem to give themselves, as if their original (possibly Latin) ones weren't good enough.
Outside the residences of our local university there's a sign that reads:
Memorial University
Where people and ideas become ...
As D. is fond of pointing out, become what? Three wee black dots?
eta: I reckon your Deakin University one was thought up by someone whose grasp of English was shaky, at best.
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Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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Originally posted by Sandemaniac:
As your antipodes wake up 24 hours late to the party...
Our family ANZAC is buried at Centennial Park Cemetery in Adelaide. Are there any Adelaide based shipmates who might have reason to go there (I say this because I believe that the cemetery is vast and the park humungous!) who would be willing to take some photos? I can unearth (pun intended) the details of the plot.
Many thanks,
AG
Patyds is the only Adelaidian shippie I can think of. Try him?
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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I think that The Giant Cheeseburger is from Adelaide also.
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Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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I read a speech today from the chair of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.
If any of you're interested, I've started a thread in purg.
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on
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Originally posted by Sandemaniac:
As your antipodes wake up 24 hours late to the party...
Our family ANZAC is buried at Centennial Park Cemetery in Adelaide. Are there any Adelaide based shipmates who might have reason to go there (I say this because I believe that the cemetery is vast and the park humungous!) who would be willing to take some photos? I can unearth (pun intended) the details of the plot.
Many thanks,
AG
Google austrailian cemeteries, you can search index by name or cemetery and sometimes there are pics of the grave.
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Thanks, I'll try those suggestions, though I can't imagine I'm flavour of the month with TGC - I haven't seen him since he finally got called to hell over the cricket thread!
AG
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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Centennial Park doesn't seem to have been recorded for the Australian Cemeteries Index, but it does have its own website with a search facility. Go to this site
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Miss M and her siblings were all taken to school by their dad this morning. She wants to spend the whole day there. If she does this, it will be the first time this year. Improving physically has meant an improvement in mind too as a few weeks ago she shrugged when I asked her about doing schoolwork in hospital with the teachers trained in such things.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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... Improving physically has meant an improvement in mind too ...
and a bit of too. Great to hear she's well enough to want to go to school!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thanks Piglet. As I wrote a few days ago, we are very thankful for the prayer for her. Every bit of it.
Some talk of pregnancy brain. Chemo brain definitely exists and the main symptom is an inability to concentrate for more than about 5-10 minutes. So wanting to go to school is a big thing for her.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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M! Keep everyone on their toes. Don't worry if at first it seems like one step forward, and two steps back. That'll stop. Love and prayers for you! You rock!
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Originally posted by PeteC:
M! Keep everyone on their toes. Don't worry if at first it seems like one step forward, and two steps back. That'll stop. Love and prayers for you! You rock!
Thank you Pete. She definitely has opinions of her own. We suggested several half days may be the better option but she is determined to go a full day even though she is exhausted. Is going again today, but as it's a sports carnival, she will just be a spectator.
Prayers for you too Pete.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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We have two lads still off sport, with Middle not starting the soccer season until mid July. But they are well, and we are thankful.
One of their mates (aged 14) was the victim of a vicious attack on the rugby field on Sunday - a kid ran in from 20 metres and kicked him in the head while he was on the ground. He was out for nearly 2 minutes, attacker has been suspended for 3 years. Their family was already dealing with his mum having a minor heart attack at Easter, age 44.
On a lighter note, I've just put out another of book of Nanna's tips, with a third close as well. It's fun!
mr curly
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Prayers for the 14 year old victim, his attacker and their families.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Yes indeed, Mr Curly - I hope that the opposing club is being called on to explain why its teams should not be suspended for many weeks.
And any news about Miss M please, now that school has resumed for the second quarter.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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And any news about Miss M please, now that school has resumed for the second quarter.
Thanks for the enquiry. Today is Thursday. She went to school on Monday for the whole day and enjoyed it very much. Could not manage the next two days as she was exhausted. However, today was sports carnival and while she could not enter anything, she went. She is determined to go for the whole day when she goes. Sunday afternoon sees more hospital till next Thursday so no school next week. This will be the pattern for quite a while yet.
Doctors are still happy with test results.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thanks for the enquiry.
Today is Thursday. She went to school on Monday for the whole day and enjoyed it very much. Could not manage the next two days as she was exhausted. However, today was sports carnival and while she could not enter anything, she went. She won junior sports award last December.
She is determined to go for the whole day when she goes. Sunday afternoon sees more hospital till next Thursday so no school next week. This will be the pattern for quite a while yet.
Doctors are still happy with test results.
School is good for her psychologically as a sign of a more normal life to her.
My brother was speaking to one of his coffee mates whom you probably know. He was happy she was back. He missed a whole year due to polio and still regrets that year gone. It hasn't affected his career apparently, but he regrets not being at school for that time.
Edit for sloppy code.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you for the update about Miss M; our prayers for her continue. Can't place anyone along the lines you mention though.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I think his initials are BB. Certainly surname starts with B.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Boett----. Don't want to post full name here and you don't have PMs enabled.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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? again.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Off to Adelaide tomorrow for the SCA conference.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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It's reported in this morning's paper that Joe Hockey finds the wind turbines down Vulpior's was "utterly offensive."
I know what I would rather look at and it isn't him.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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I agree with Hockey - they are ugly and spoil what was a marvellous landscape. Then, even their operator admits that they are not economically viable, save for an enormous government subsidy. I wonder just how environmentally viable they are also. The wind may be free and non-polluting, but what about the materials and manufacturing?
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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I find wind turbines rather elegant. But it depends where they're put, I suppose. My late friend who was a senior engineer with the then government electricity generating department thought the pylons marching across the wide uplands of the central plateau were quite beautiful.
GG
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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I love them. Nature at work within the demands of modernity.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Though my own photo is prettier
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Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I like the photo Zappa. I like wind turbines too, but I think some have been thoughtlessly place near houses. The noise would drive me batty.
As for pylons I have a vague memory that someone like Dennis Glover, A.R.D Fairburn or someone of that vintage wrote about them striding across the land. (Fairly sure it wasn't Baxter).
Huia
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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My father used to have a thing about photographing pylons: whenever we had the dreaded Annual Holiday Slide Show™ he'd be pointing out pylons in every photograph.
I can't make up my mind about wind turbines: sometimes I think they look quite elegant, at other times I'm not so sure, and I'm not really convinced of their efficacy.
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on
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Originally posted by Sandemaniac:
As your antipodes wake up 24 hours late to the party...
Our family ANZAC is buried at Centennial Park Cemetery in Adelaide. Are there any Adelaide based shipmates who might have reason to go there (I say this because I believe that the cemetery is vast and the park humungous!) who would be willing to take some photos? I can unearth (pun intended) the details of the plot.
Many thanks,
AG
Only just saw this as not on ship much at moment. Currently coming home from port Macquarie. Pm me.
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
It's reported in this morning's paper that Joe Hockey finds the wind turbines down Vulpior's was "utterly offensive."
I know what I would rather look at and it isn't him.
I'm with you, Loth - and besides their looks, they produce something that is useful, whereas out of the Treasurer's mouth ....
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I'm with you, Loth - and besides their looks, they produce something that is useful, whereas out of the Treasurer's mouth ....
It depends on my mood and I wasn't speaking about cost or usefulness or productivity etc.
At times, like GG, I find them elegant.
At other times they remind me of something out of Dr Who, advancing across the landscape. Still more attractive than Hockey, especially lately.
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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When we drive down to our country property which is half-way between Crookwell and Cowra, we pass by the Crookwell Wind Farm - even on quiet daws with just enough breeze to make the sails turn there is hardly any discernible noise - though there are only 8 turbines there. There is also the much larger farm on the ridges further south - they d look elegant, though images of the War of the world's machines is somewhat apt, in a non-deadly way.
Loth - our communities were so glad to hear of Miss M being at school and wanting to pick up the threads of normal day-to-day life: we keep them posted as it is as if she and her family have become one of ours!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Miss M is back in hospital for more chemo. Only one more lot like this. Goes in Sunday afternoon, tests, chemo, line flushes, more chemo and comes out on Thursday afternoon. The next week of the cycle she can go to school if at all possible. So three more weeks in this lot of treatment. Then something else starts.
Her markers etc are all right where doctors want them to be at this stage.
She's a bit cheeky and has a definite opinion to express but that's better than seeing her cowed. While she's making progress, she has had to face that a couple of children whom she had known from hospital haven't made it. So sad. Kids like her grow up too fast.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
[QUOTE]At other times they remind me of something out of Dr Who, advancing across the landscape. Still more attractive than Hockey, especially lately.
When I was driving down to Canberra the other week, I saw the windmills and did not like them any more than on any previous occasion. So far, I've not seen Joe Hockey standing out in a paddock waving his arms, so I can't comment.
Sad for anyone to have to deal with issues like that let alone someone as young as Miss M.
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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We can see the windmills from where we are. I'm a proponent of new forms of energy so am going to be in favour.
There is a proposal for another wind farm in the other direction, east of us. There's lots of neighbours up in arms against it. We could be surrounded by "industrial" activity: the Woodlawn bioreactor, wind and solar farms, and sand mining. Mum says in that case we should be like the industrial suburbs of the ACT and open a brothel!
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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I thought our government was pretty slack, but yours appoints a climate change skeptic (an endangered species, I thought, but with a very loud cry) to review the Renewable Energy Target.
A poster on my facebook page reads 'Plot idea: 97% of the world's scientists contrive an environmental crisis, but are exposed by a plucky band of billionaires and oil companies'.
GG
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Some of you may remember my whinging about the ongoing work on relining the sewers after the quakes, and how long it was taking. The workers have now moved into the main road that my street runs into and have been working there since March to the accompanyment of whiffs of raw sewerage. Today I asked one of the workers if he had any idea of when this stretch of infrastructure whoud be complete and he said "Months, rather than weeks."
So not only will the pong (which started in November) continue, but also those of us who rely on the bus service to go and get out groceries will have further to carry them as our bus stop has been put out of commission
I am thinking of running away to sea.
I feel like a reak sook. There are people living in cars because of insurance disagreements and rents have skyrocketed due to the shortage of housing and profiteering. Some landlords had the value of their properties increased due to the repairs (funded by their insurance) have now increased their rents enormously and are renting room by room to workers who have come for the rebuilding of the city, rather than families, some of whom have been priced out of the market.
And winter is starting to bite.
Bloody earthquakes.
Huia
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Huia, I sometimes think some governments would have chipped in and got all the rebuilding sorted long ago, houses and all – but if a disaster the size of Christchurch's happened in a country with a population of not 4 1/2 million but 400 million or even 40 million it would be a relative drop in the bucket, so to speak.
Meanwhile tonight's news was of the Chch rebuild costing half a billion more than originally estimated, and I don't know if that includes the flood problem where the land has sunk. I was impressed by Leanne D when I heard her speak a couple of years ago but she'd need to be superwoman to sort out this situation.
GG
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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While doctors are happy with Miss M's progress, this childhood cancer is a terrible thing. I have just posted in the prayer thread about C, a 15 year old boy who shared a hospital room with her recently.
He died a few days ago, and all now left of his family are his mum and a sister. Mum's first husband suicided and the second died of cancer two years ago. Just horrible.
He was in Year 9, the third year of high school at the local school which bussed all students from that year to the funeral.
It has hit my son quite hard.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Goodness, Loth - there really are no words for how that poor lady and her daughter must be feeling.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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What piglet said -
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Amidst all the crap (some of it literal) of the city recovering from the quakes I am grateful to the creative and eccentric people who brighten our lives.
The neighbour who used chicken-wire to sculpt a woman in a bathtub and put it on his front lawn.
The woman on the front of the paper today who crochetted a road cone and attached it over her bike helmet
The person who saw the water in the semi-demolished swimming baths and added a couple of decoy ducks (it's duckshhoting seasn here).
And my old favourite, the people who used an old upright fridge with a glass door to make a library of paperback books that is still being used two and a half years later.
These are only a few examples, but there is some joy among the ruins.
I only wish some of the insurance delays could be settled to enable the re=building to go ahead more quickly,
Huia
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Re-build, but keep these eccentricities as well. How a bout growing ivy over teh chicken wire, and then keeping it trimmed?
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Our choir is doing a concert tonight commemorating the Pike River mining deaths - also a wonderful piece about the Chilean miners who survived, and another wonderful piece commemorating the Waihi Miners Strike in 1912 in which an innocent man was killed by police. Some of you may have seen Dave Dobbyn with members of the Pike River families. I suspect it will be quite emotional... All the pieces are NZ premieres, and the two NZ ones have never been performed before.
Huia, I love eccentrics. We have a gent about 3 houses along who has filled his front yard (one can't call it a garden) with sculptures he has made. Every now and then the display changes, usually in response to some news story or other. It isn't high art, but it is very entertaining. At the moment it seems to be all about dogs, without a single dog sculpture in sight.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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I still miss the lounge room setting complete with lamp on lamp table that was nailed to the roof of a house opposite our local shops. The authorities made the guy living there remove it.
Anyway it has been an interesting week. My sister and I became grandmothers again within the space of two days. Ryan Daniel (I think that's right) born in the Top End, and today, on my father's birthday, Evie Magnolja arrived here (Croation spelling).
Much celebrating amongst the Territorians in the family.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Congratulations on the additions to your family Banner Lady
Arabella the May 10 -16 NZ Listener which I picked up just after I posted, has an article on ChCh artists including a painting of a ballerina that I saw for the first time when I was wandering, and some beautiful arches made of laminated wood which I hope will become a more permanent feature of the rebuilt city.
Huia
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
Congratulations on the additions to your family Banner Lady
Arabella the May 10 -16 NZ Listener which I picked up just after I posted, has an article on ChCh artists including a painting of a ballerina that I saw for the first time when I was wandering, and some beautiful arches made of laminated wood which I hope will become a more permanent feature of the rebuilt city.
Huia
I took some photos of the arches when I was down for work. They're lovely, particularly the way they echo a church structure.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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for miss M and her friends.
I'm back from the SCA conference in Adelaide.It was preceded by the Christening of my three month old great nephew--who slept through the whole proceeding!
I met with LKK who did indeed buy me a drink, thank you.
I will be in Sydney from Sunday the 6th to Friday the 11th of July, I'd love to meet. Friday is out, it is the last day I have with my fiancée so want to spend it with her.
She's at a conference so I'll be free most days, no programme as yet, I'll clarify later.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
... born in the Top End ...
That must have been interesting for the midwife ...
Huge congratulations to you, your sister and the rest of the Clan Banner.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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I hope that the following day she is no longer fiancée but becomes wife if it's to be the last day you spend with her.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
I hope that the following day she is no longer fiancée but becomes wife if it's to be the last day you spend with her.
No, it will be the last day before we see each other the next month! This long distance relationship...
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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That's better.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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A question, is there anyone who can suggest some cheap (or free ) parking around Wynyard? That is where we are staying and the parking fee is astronomical!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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None that I know of. The best near-by is an early-birder at Australia Square, but make sure you tell them when you go in that you want to take advantage of it, not just assume that if you keep the hours it will work. The cheapest is to park in the commuter car-park near us and catch the train in and out.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Cheap or free parking near Wynyard
Some years ago there used to be good rates (by Sydney CBD standards) at Quay West which is a short walk from Wynyard. Might be worth checking out, I have no idea if their rates remain competitive. Good luck!
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Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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James, again as Evangeline said
The parking firm Wilsons does have different rates but you have to ask for them. Some early bird rates are quite cheap, but the hours are enforced. There is a Wilsons under Wesley Mission in Pit Street, entrance from Castlereagh Street. Relatively close to Wynyard to walk. Do some googling on earlybird and Wilsons and see what you can find.
Good luck. You could buy a small suburban home for the same price as permanent parking in Sydney.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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So I've discovered! Ouch. I think I'll pay the hotel prices.
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Where we stay on the border of Darlinghurst and Surry Hills charges $20 per night for parking. Apart from being conveniently located near places we want to be, and relatively easy to drive to, that's a major factor in sticking with them. We'll be disappointed when they close for a major rebuild.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Parking in central Sydney = ouch.
Autumn in Canberra also = ouch, especially if it has rained overnight and there are wet leaves all over your sloping driveway.
BL is now somewhat slower, thanks to a fractured ankle. It happened at 8am on Mother's Day as I was dashing off to church. Only got around to having it seen to today, having hobbled along for 3 days.
The doc asked me how come I hadn't been in to deal with it sooner - didn't it hurt?
My answer was "Compared to what? Childbirth? Nah."
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Headlines yesterday about Aussie 'Coal Bonanza risks climate change' – ouch. Greg Hunt and now Clive Palmer – where do you find these people? And I thought our lot were a bit slack.
GG
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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BL, remember the saying that there's nothing quite as satisfying as seeing a friend skid on his own bathwater - in a climate where the water frozen in the pipes would crack them. You've done the Canberra equivalent. But get bette soon, with plenty of rest and some good physio as well.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Being forced to slow down, Banner Lady? Whatever it takes, I guess. Hope it heals quickly and please be careful as you hobble around.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Hope you heal quickly, BL - take it easy and look after yourself.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Ouch, BL, hope it recovers quickly.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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B 1.2 was most impressed with my moonboot. I told him I was practising for the zombie apacolypse.
BL (bloody lurching)
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Can you still drive BL? And given that it's an ankle, I hope you'r still getting the tarting wood broken and then the rest split. If needed, we can send Dlet to do that - he's pretty good at it now, one of my successes in parenting. But best wishes to you, and heal well and quickly.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
And I thought our lot were a bit slack.
GG
A bit ?????
Best wishes for a speedy recovery BL.
Huia
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Parking in central Sydney = ouch.
Autumn in Canberra also = ouch, especially if it has rained overnight and there are wet leaves all over your sloping driveway.
BL is now somewhat slower, thanks to a fractured ankle. It happened at 8am on Mother's Day as I was dashing off to church. Only got around to having it seen to today, having hobbled along for 3 days.
The doc asked me how come I hadn't been in to deal with it sooner - didn't it hurt?
My answer was "Compared to what? Childbirth? Nah."
But what about compared to paying Sydney parking prices?
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I hope you'r still getting the tarting wood broken and then the rest split. If needed, we can send Dlet to do that - he's pretty good at it now, one of my successes in parenting. But best wishes to you, and heal well and quickly.
One of my successes too, although eldest son is debarred from any activity like that now, thanks to two major back operations.
I've split my share over my lifetime. I find it enjoyable. Then there's the usual stuff like "being warmed twice." Am even skilled in splitting a large log metres long with wedges, as well as splitting blocks. Aargh! nostalgia kicks in.
I managed an entry in SMH Column 8 yesterday, the first for a long time. This morning there was a reply and also an entry from someone I know in the Mountains. Hit the jackpot.
Link to yesterday's column.
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Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Loth, I'm in awe and envy at your physical stamina. Having enjoyed my first class of the season (eight 12/13-year-olds; Middle English segueing into Dutch, next week 1066 and the French incursion and Proto-Indo-European) I feel I can go on for years yet as long as my legs last. The kids might be confused if I eventually arrived with a Zimmer frame.
And I have just made another nine jars of lime marmalade.
GG
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Gee D, it's my left lat mal, so I can still drive an automatic. Two docs conferred over it, one wanting me in plaster the other thinking I could get away with a boot. I plumped for the boot so I can take it off to shower and to sleep - it's also very light, which is a blessing.
Extra time to heal is not an issue for me. It surely can't be worse than when I did the achilles tendon on the same foot 5 years ago. That took four months.
Funny how my left arm is much stronger than my right, but my left foot is prone to giving out.
But I'm beginning to think the trees round here have it in for me. The first time I fell off a gumnut, and this time I fell off a leaf.
That's talent!
Posted by Macrina (# 8807) on
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I took my first trip to the Cardboard Cathedral today, very nice. Think I'll be popping along for evensong now I live much closer. Huia, I echo your thoughts about the rebuild, our street has bern taken over by the waste water people.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Yes, the workers are great but the smells are awful. I really wasn't aware that smells could be so depressing, but then other scents are uplifting like the poppy and hemp bathsalts I bought today. I told the woman at the chemist they were so good it's a wonder they're not illegal. Maybe I'll carry around a posy of flowers, like people did during the plague.
There are some really good people at the cathedral too Macrina. Before the quakes I had some dealings with the current Dean, whom I find an interesting speaker. I used to vounteer in the old cathedral years ago.
Brilliant day today. I went over to the port to pick up a raincoat a woman had finished making for me. It's purple (of course) and she's one of those clever people who can tinker with the pattern so the wearer doesn't have to be 7ft tall and built like a beanpole. I don't think I've been as excited about a piece of clothing sine my mum made me a lovely pink dress that ties up on the shoulders when I was nine.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Galloping Granny, splitting wood is a therapeutic exercise. In one way it's mindless. In another way, it is so satisfying to seek the pile of split wood get larger and larger. Figuring out the sweet spot to get the greatest effect for the least effort is fun. Even better when it actually works and the block falls apart with one blow.
Your teaching sounds like fun. Currently I am working on grandchildren's grammar. It's difficult for them to understand it's "really well." not "real good."
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Banner Lady, I told my St J friend of your mishap. He sends good wishes and had a good laugh at the zombie apocalypse. It reminded him of his mother many years ago, possibly even in the 50s. She had had bone cancer and had one leg amputated.
At the Post Office one day, a small boy asked her what had happened to her other leg. "The rats ate it, " she told him and he hurried back to his mother.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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... poppy and hemp bathsalts ... were so good it's a wonder they're not illegal ...
Are you sure? They sound deeply iffy to me.
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
... therapeutic exercise ...
Now that's an oxymoron if ever I heard one.
I've discovered something truly therapeutic recently - baking French sticks. The dough is kneaded in the bread-making machine, but you roll and shape it yourself and it really does have the most satisfying feel.
And a pretty damn satisfying taste too, though I say it what shouldn't ...
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Galloping Granny, splitting wood is a therapeutic exercise. In one way it's mindless. In another way, it is so satisfying to seek the pile of split wood get larger and larger. Figuring out the sweet spot to get the greatest effect for the least effort is fun. Even better when it actually works and the block falls apart with one blow.
So true ... but when I was in wankydilla (happy memories) I used to have to wear a crash helmet, as the wood (gidgee and mulga) was so hard it was like hitting and splitting an iron bar. When you did get the split it could fly for miles and physically knock you out.
Sadly no open fire here - the one thing lacking in this house - but the main wood to split here (when I visit my aged mater) is macrocarpa and that is most satisfying.
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Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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(Gidgee ... mulga ... macrocarpa ... lest I be told off for speaking in tongues)
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Piglet's made a discovery:
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I've discovered something truly therapeutic recently - baking French sticks. The dough is kneaded in the bread-making machine, but you roll and shape it yourself and it really does have the most satisfying feel.
And if you don't have a breadmaker the whole kneading and thumping process is very satisfying.
I once had a not-quite-special-needs class who pounded out their frustrations making bread and 'hot initial buns'. I began with the old demonstration where you put yeast/sugar/warm water in a bottle, cork it and wait for the cork to blow off; but when we mixed the dough they were worried that I hadn't used any baking powder.
Then there was the Sunday when we had two bread-makers in church, making a wonderful smell before we took the bread out for communion. I asked a small boy afterwards if his family made bread at home, and he replied wistfully that they didn't have a breadmaker.
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I don't think it would ever have occurred to me to try making my own bread, but D. took a fancy for it a couple of years ago and when somebody had bread-machines at half-price we bought one.
Up until now we'd only made the sort that bake in the machine, and they were fine, but it turns out that the ones you bake yourself are almost easier (fewer ingredients and hence fewer potential cock-ups).
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Piglet, do you have one of the clay baker thingees for the french loaf? There are a variety of types and they make a very nice crust. Mine is simply a long half-cylinder of clay and it works great.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I have a recipe for bread made with beer. The beer is waiting in the fridge, as it has been for a month or so, but I haven't got round to making it yet.
I tend to vent my frustrations in chopping vegetables for bacon hock soup. I have a 6 litre crockpot simmering away at the moment, most of which is going to be used to bribe a friend to climb up into my ceiling to see how damp the (now fixed ) leak in the roof has left the fibreglass insulation. I live in fear of black mould.
Huia
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by lily pad:
Piglet, do you have one of the clay baker thingees for the french loaf?
No - the recipe makes three 14" loaves, and we baked them side-by-side on an ordinary baking-sheet lined with parchment and sprinkled with whole-wheat flour (it was supposed to be cornmeal, but we didn't have any and decided that the flour would do, and it worked just fine).
Huia, I think your ham-hock soup would go very nicely with the bread - can you send a virtual bowlful over this way?
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Life here this year has been mostly of the new normal for us. However, the old normal broke through for a while at the weekend.
Miss M and her sister attended a vampire themed birthday sleepover and she slept over. Complete with some horrifying vampire makeup. I guess her mum must have been at the party too for a while. New normal requires evenings to be a tightly maintained schedule of food, drink and medication. If the cycle gets out of time, it has to be started over to ensure efficacy of medication. Once she's asleep, she's so tired she sleeps just fine.
New normal kicked in again on Sunday evening. She's back in hospital for several days for what we hope is the last session of the rather nasty chemo in this cycle. Then something else starts again.
Still, we are very grateful that doctors are happy with her progress. There have now been three children known to the family from hospital lost in the last five or so weeks. The last was the death of the not three year old daughter of an Olympic athlete. She was diagnosed at three months old with the same aggressive leukaemia as Miss M, but all treatments failed.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Continued prayers for Miss M, and also for all the other leukemic patients thriving and lost.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
Continued prayers for Miss M, and also for all the other leukemic patients thriving and lost.
Thanks Pete. We value those prayers and pray for you too.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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from here, too.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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What Pete and WW said.
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Indeed, same from here as well!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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And from us.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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It's such a cruel disease. So good to hear about Miss M having some of her old normal life in spite of it.
Huia
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Prayers and loving good wishes for Miss M
GG
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on
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Miss M
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
(Gidgee ... mulga ... macrocarpa ... lest I be told off for speaking in tongues)
Z, I don't think you'll ever be in danger of that.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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The joys of ALL! Miss M and her big sister are here for the weekend. Last night there were eyelashes in the hand basin.
She has now finished the fourth round of chemo and results so far are good. This was the worst round yet in many ways. There is a breathing space of three weeks to the next lot.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Oh Loth! Enjoy the weekend.
Prayers continue.
Despite being winter it hasn't rained here for over a week. I'm noticing particularly because I want to check that the leak in the roof has been fixed properly. also I have had a purple raincoat made for me and haven't had a chance to try it out.
On the other hand there are trees coming into blossom in town.
Huia
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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What Huia said, Loth - have a great weekend!
If it's winter, why are your trees coming into blossom?
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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If it's winter, why are your trees coming into blossom?
Sydney at least has a record breaking spell of warm weather, a few days out from winter. I had fan on last night in bedroom and was still hot. Birds are nesting, trees are blooming and we are hot! Mid twenties today.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Crikey - if it's the mid-20s when it's nearly winter I shudder to think what it must be like in the summer!
eta: I expect A Certain Fellow-Host Who Lives Somewhere Hot will be along in a minute to make fun of me ...
[ 24. May 2014, 02:01: Message edited by: piglet ]
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Mid-20s is not hot for here at all, but is far too hot for time of year.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Possibly giggle quietly to myself but never make fun of you!
Well, maybe just a little bit...
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Fortunately, we put water tanks in a few years ago. After the rains earlier, they've been full, but we've had to start watering again. Very mild here today. Too pleasant to work, but I'll have to.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I was told today that the tree that's blossoming is an almond, I didn't think they grew this far south, but it is fairly sheltered by a buildingwhich is the "gentleman's Club, so there may be extra hot air coming from it
Around 20c here today with a warm nor'wester but next week it's forecast to go down to 8c one day, with -4c overnight. Fortunately by then the bloke will have come and renewed all the catches on the aluminium window frames. My 1950s house doesn't have double glazing but I may bubble wrap some of the windows for extra warmth.
Huia
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
Crikey - if it's the mid-20s when it's nearly winter I shudder to think what it must be like in the summer!
eta: I expect A Certain Fellow-Host Who Lives Somewhere Hot will be along in a minute to make fun of me ...
Lived. The only thing I regret about moving (well almost the only thing) is the Antarctic climes.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Clarence:
Z, I don't think you'll ever be in danger of that.
Maybe just obscurantism, then: speaking in a language not understanded of the people
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Hey Zappa, are you going to the Dylan concert in Hamilton? I'd like to go to the one here, but there will be too many people.
It's hailing off and on here today with a cold wind and the people are still working down the end of the road. For all the comments your hear about roadworkers just leaning on their shovels you couldn't pay me enough to do that job.
Huia
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Hey Zappa, are you going to the Dylan concert in Hamilton? I'd like to go to the one here, but there will be too many people.
Just trying to work out how to book it
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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We currently do not have any tickets on-sale for Bob Dylan.
Sigh.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Hey Zappa, are you going to the Dylan concert in Hamilton? I'd like to go to the one here, but there will be too many people.
It's hailing off and on here today with a cold wind and the people are still working down the end of the road. For all the comments your hear about roadworkers just leaning on their shovels you couldn't pay me enough to do that job.
Huia
I was in Carterton today, where there were some extended power cuts over the weekend due to storms. One of the guys I was talking with said that the powerline guys were out and up the posts in the storm trying to get things up and going again - he echoed your sentiment!
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
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We currently do not have any tickets on-sale for Bob Dylan.
Sigh.
On Sale from Wednesday (today) I think.
Happy Birthday Adam Pater and Happy Birthday me.
The forecast -5c frost didn't hapen today, for which many thanks to the wind, but it was so cold at bedtime I got the extra duvets down from storage and wore two hats to bed.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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A Happy Birthday to you Huia! May there be many more.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Happy Birthday, Adam Pater and Huia.
quote:
The forecast -5c frost didn't hapen today, for which many thanks to the wind, but it was so cold at bedtime I got the extra duvets down from storage and wore two hats to bed.
I'm jealous, Huia. Well perhaps I don't want -5°, but it's hot here. Forecast of 27° for Sydney today. That's ridiculous for the time of the year. The only thing which seems to recognise it's just on winter is the sunrise and set. They are at winter times, but the days are hot. I'd love a colder night.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Happy birthday to AP & H, may the day enfold you gently, and lay you down with peace.
Studio storage floor is now finished, complete with stairs. And me unable to carry anything up to it.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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How about some of the grandsons?
Hope all is healing well. Have some experience here with son and ankles. Reconstruction of one some years ago by one surgeon. Then he had a nasty fall down fire stairs at work and did the other one in. A new surgeon who did a really good job, but while that was healing, the first one could not take the strain and went again. Redone by second surgeon.
When all that was over, we discovered major back problems hidden during little movement after ankle surgery. Two operations later, one by top neurosurgeon in Australia, and that is very, very slowly healing.
So please take care, even if lack of movement and length of time frustrates you.
[ 28. May 2014, 02:43: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Yesterday after I had posted I decided that the day was too good to waste so I took myself off to Willowbank which is a place that has various native and endangered animals. It is now on a bus route which means it is fairly easily accessible to me (3 buses each way, but all run reasonably frequently). Last time I went the Asian otters were hiding and I was really disappointed, but this time they were visible for a short time. I also saw the takahe, I suspect because it was close to feeding time. The Arapawa Island goats I smelled way before I saw, while the kiwi had gone into hiding because their area was being fixed.
I bought a small packet of bird fool, which meant I was stalked by a pukeko (swamp hen) and a greedy bantam. It was a lovely day.
Today I went to school and there were a pair of mallards accompanied by 10 or so chicks on the playing field - they even stayed until inteval when the children fed them. Definitely out of season.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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I'm back on the Wellington-Wairarapa beat for work. The weather has been indescribable: today in Welly, overcast and gloomy; as I top the Rimutakas, the Wairarapa is sunny and glorious, if a bit cold at 9.30am, but up to 16C by lunchtime. The wind on the Rimutakas was horrendous, however, rocking the car around something terrible.
I'm still hoping the hospital will spring for a transporter device, a la Star Trek.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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After a sunny and mild few days, today is looking more like the bleak end of autumn. We have had B1.2 at home sick for the last few days, and B1, B3 & B4 have all been struggling with viruses. My 95 year old Mum, however, is hale and hearty.
I have just returned from a visit, where I discovered she has begun knitting coats for penguins in recovery after oil spills. She was very cross, as the peripheral neuropathy means her fingers won't always do what she wants them to do. She had unpicked the hot pink acrylic wool several times because it "wasn't quite right".
I did assure her that the penguins wouldn't notice a few mistakes...
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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It is lovely to have some good news to report. Son with ankle and back problems as detailed in my reply to Banner Lady has just come from neurosurgeon. No more visits till November.
The surgeon has been concerned about the pace and amount of healing of artificial joint in back. It did not seem to have attached properly. Son was allowed 10 minutes in pool twice a week and a short easy walk each morning.
Surgeon now thinks it has attached and has given the go ahead for light rehab to actually start. A bit of physio too. He has to be careful not to overdo things, but he follows such instructions meticulously.
This is very good news.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Rejoicing quietly with you re good news, Loth.
May there be more of it.
TP's brother, who also has leukemia, and had a bone marrow transplant several years ago, has been back to the gym recently. His first social outing for many many months. We thought we might lose him several times along the way, so this is good news for us.
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on
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Am about to set off for my last working day,(at this stage) a day of cleaning and tossing out out the last of the rubbish. The hardware shop I was at has closed due to the end of the lease, the owners ill health and NOT because of B......s. I have mixed feelings about the impending retrenchment.
I will be 63 next month and have been applying for positions for the last three months with no luck so have no alternate but to take my superannuation.
Thanks be to God that I have a reasonable investment which will keep us fairly comfortable for the next ten years or so. Plus it looks like I could be elligable for some 'new start' as well.
The next few weeks will be life changing to say the least.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Good luck Dennis. for life transitions.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
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We currently do not have any tickets on-sale for Bob Dylan.
Sigh.
On Sale from Wednesday (today) I think.
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TICKETS FOR BOTH NEW ZEALAND SHOWS ON SALE WEDNESDAY 4TH JUNE, 9AM NZ TIME
nail biting ( ) smiley and provisional
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Put a reminder in your phone or calendar to pop up the day before.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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for all, especially miss M.
I have come down with the dreaded lurgy which would not ordinarily have stopped me. I do, however, work in an oncology unit. I arrived back from Perth on Wednesday morning courtesy of the "red eye", went to the doctor who seemed a bit unimpressed when i told him I had a cold. I then said I have not come for medication but for a certificate as I work in an oncology unit. Change of demeanour, "how long would you like?" If all goes well I will return to work on Monday.
I will be in Sydney for a week in July, I will start a meet thread.
I have been a bit quiet for the last little while but do read often.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Pink coats for penguins
What's black and white and pink all over?
A penguin that got caught in an oil slick.
More seriously though - good on her. I had never really thought of that aspect of penguin recovery.
Huia
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Call this a weekend? Mrs Curly is away with 30 junior guides, leaving me to deal with an unusually complicated weekend routine for the Little Curlies AND Mr and Mrs Curly Senior staying over.
I feel like the ringmaster of a circus where half the animals are on speed and the other half want the show to run for 17 hours, while receiving a detailed commentary on every single move.
Feeling thirsty for "medicine time" already.
Mr Curly
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Mr Curly Senior's contribution to one of the busiest Saturday's of the year was to announce that he let the guinea pigs out to feed, yesterday at lunch time.
WTF?
Rodents recaptured having not been eaten by predators and before Little Miss had a chance for an "I want my mummy" meltdown.
Oh, but that hour I needed to set up the garage for Biggest's recording session this afternoon? Gone.
mr curly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Mr Curly, luck was on your side with the guinea pigs,
Hope the rest of the day works well for you.
When I used to walk down Marian St at Killara around 6:00 am to station, I often saw one very plump small rabbit, possibly an escapee from a hutch. Lots of leafy gardens to sustain it there and it wandered along the footpath and squeezed under fences. Even crossed the road. I saw it for months and it was still around when we moved. A charmed life.
[ 31. May 2014, 03:01: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Don't worry Mr Curly, you've still got time to fatten it up for next Saturday's dinner. The thread for difficult relatives (I think they mean relations, but don't worry about that) is in Hell. Perhaps you could post there also.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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All who do, please pray for 4-week-old Esther on life-support in our Children's Hospital. She had heart surgery the day after she was born, but took a turn for the worse on Thursday. Her grandmother, from Queensland,has been coming to my church for several weeks, and my people have taken her and little Esther very much to heart.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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We certainly shall Rexory. That's every bit as sad as Lothlorien's granddaughter. Poor tiny one.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Yes, indeed, Rexory. We have been so appreciative of the prayer and concern for Miss M who is on a three week break before what sounds like another horrendous round of chemo.
It is good to hear of the support she is getting from your church. Things like this and Miss M are very hard on the family. I have been very glad of amazing support from many areas. Poor little mite.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Put a reminder in your phone or calendar to pop up the day before.
Aarrrrgh ... it may be the weekend I'm supposed to be in Suva for the deans' conference.
I would just have to miss the Suva conference. I missed his 1978 gig because I was at a conference and I ain't gonna miss him again. Though I have been nine times since.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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for Esther and continuing for Miss M.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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For sick girls - tiny and big.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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for Esther and Miss M. May God's love surround them.
GG
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Esher and Miss M
(I will / will continue to incorporate them into our daily office prayers at the cathedral)
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Esther and Miss M
Our younger son had open heart surgery on his second day and at 8 months. He is now 25. Pray that Esther will recover similarly.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Just had a call from Esther's grandmother. The little one has been taken off life-support and is so far holding her own. Doctors are not particularly optimistic, but let's keep praying.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Will keep praying, Rexory. Just heard of another little boy, a month old who has just had operation to close three holes in heart.
Thanks Latchkey kid . I did know about your son but had forgotten.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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4 Corners on now about Pope Francis... I do hope he manages to have an impact on the Catholic and catholic church.
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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He is a beacon of hope. May he be as subtle as serpents and innocent as doves.
Posted by St Deird (# 7631) on
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Have now been out of Australia for 3 months - 9 more to go. Germany is fun, but homesickness is still a thing.
I miss magpie song, meat pies, outdoor washing lines, sunshine that requires sunscreen, dimsims, gum leaves, and many more things besides. I also miss my cat.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Ah, but how many different kinds of sausage do you have to chuck on the barbie?
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Ah, but how many different kinds of sausage do you have to chuck on the barbie?
Most of the chain type butchers here have an enormous range, with all sorts of rich and strange combinations. At least one of them is said to have won a prize in an otherwise unknown competition.
Huia, our local weather site also shows temperatures in the neighbourhood. It's supposed to be only 1 in Christchurch at the moment. Even allowing for the time difference, that's really cold. Hope you have your winter doona keeping you comfortable.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Oh St Deird homesickness is such a thing isn't it? Often it's things you don't think about much that you miss, like birdsong or the colour of the sky.
Australia will be here waiting for you in 9 months time and you'll be amazed that you will be changed but it isn't.
Do you have some Aussie mates over there?
Posted by St Deird (# 7631) on
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Only my husband. So at least I get to hear the accent a couple of times a day.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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quote:
Originally posted by St Deird:
... I miss magpie song, meat pies, ... and many more things besides ...
Did you bring your own supply of Vegemite* then?
quote:
Originally posted by St Deird:
... at least I get to hear the accent a couple of times a day ...
I know exactly what you mean - the first time we hear an Orkney accent on the boat going home always makes us go a bit fuzzy round the edges.
* Sorry - as a Brit I assume you feel about Vegemite the way my Better Half feels about Marmite.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Huia, our local weather site also shows temperatures in the neighbourhood. It's supposed to be only 1 in Christchurch at the moment. Even allowing for the time difference, that's really cold. Hope you have your winter doona keeping you comfortable.
I go in for layers of bedding and at least one possum and merino hat. Now that I've had someone out to fix all the window catches the room is warmer too. One morning I awoke with aches all down my back and I thought I had the flu, but it was only the result of sleeping in a draught and a warm bath cured it
I'm sure Canada is a lovely country, but in winter I am always glad my ancestors chose NZ. Maybe I would be hardier if they had chosen Canada, on the other hand I have been told houses are better insulated there, and with that in mind have someone coming to quote for underfloor insulation.
Huia
Posted by St Deird (# 7631) on
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quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
* Sorry - as a Brit I assume you feel about Vegemite the way my Better Half feels about Marmite.
I do indeed. And yes, I brought my own.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
... I'm sure Canada is a lovely country, but in winter I am always glad my ancestors chose NZ. Maybe I would be hardier if they had chosen Canada, on the other hand I have been told houses are better insulated there ...
Here in Newfoundland I've found it's not so much the extremity of the cold (although we get far colder temperatures here that I was used to in Orkney or Northern Ireland), but the length of the winter. This year we got snow on Advent Sunday and it was still there at Easter (and a very late Easter at that), and Spring is taking a long time in coming ...
Many of our friends' houses feel to us as if the heating's set to "tropical", although we haven't really developed that habit - we wouldn't find it comfortable and couldn't afford it anyway. Chez Piglet is a fairly old, wooden "row" house, and until we had the front windows replaced was very draughty, but now much improved.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Huia, some friends put in underfloor insulation last year and say that not only is the house warmer but that their power bills are lower. It's a question of balancing capital cost against income expenditure I suppose. D Towers keep warm, but there's nowhere that draughts can get under the house. We may investigate further depending on the next gas bill.
And Piglet, we've never been to the Orkneys, but a friend who went their in what was laughingly called high summer said that she's never been so cold in all her (considerable) life, which includes a trip to Antarctica. Worse than the main street at Katoomba.
[ 04. June 2014, 22:30: Message edited by: Gee D ]
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Gee D, Lithgow main street would give Katoomba a run for its money. My parents grew up there and Mum used to say that the fire burnt from early March till late November, sometimes longer. The valley is a wind trap for southerlies.
We used to have two storey house built on hill so that there was really another floor under most of it. We put in what passed as a ceiling in that downstairs area when son used it as an office. That meant some dead space between top of floor joists for living area and bottom of those joists for office area. Upstairs became much less draughty and much warmer. This was in a house now almost 140 years old, so there was a lot of opportunity for draughts.
[ 05. June 2014, 00:35: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
... a friend who went [to Orkney] in what was laughingly called high summer said that she's never been so cold in all her (considerable) life ...
In Orkney it's not the cold, it's the wind, which can make it feel a heck of a lot colder than it actually is. As D. is fond of saying, "Orkney has a wonderful atmosphere, if only it would stay still ..."
For myself, I think the coldest I've ever felt was January in St. Pierre, a tiny French-owned island off the south coast of Newfoundland; when we went out to explore the town, despite being well wrapped up, we had to give up after half an hour or so because it was so cold you could hardly move.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Is that the Saint Pierre which goes with Miquelon? Never been there, but I've heard from someone else who visited in August that it was far from tropical.
Yes, it is the wind that makes Katoomba so cold. The shopping area is on the southern side of the ridge, and the main street is very steep. The wind comes up from Antarctica, hits the plateau and swirls up the main street. Bitter, so the best course is to rug up well for the street but get into a café or coffee shop as quickly as you can.
I thought that the smog would have kept Lithgow warmer, working as a blanket. Never stopped there long in winter, and the last time was probably 40 years or more ago.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Lithgow had a heated swimming pool during the Depression. Well, not really. Dad and other boys were friends of the son of the brewer. There was a pool which had warm water in it from some part of the brewing process. They would swim there and the son would ring and ask for more hot water to be sent down.
The other, bleaker side of side of life was the use of the old blast furnaces as dwelling by the unemployed. Each had several families living in horrid conditions in it.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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We have qualified for state-supported insulation. We had several phone calls, and when we were asked for the third time what access we had to the under-floor space I had to laugh as I explained yet again that we sit on a ten inch reinforced concrete slab.
Meanwhile, our huge attic contains a 44-year accumulation of Stuff, which the man who came said could be taken down for $250 (and put where?). We can't do much – the Grandad hasn't been up for decades – so we've asked at church for help, and have had a couple of sessions with a friend passing stuff down while we stack it in bedroom #1, for me to sort and arrange in bedroom #2 – rubbish (outside), recycling, Sallies, Books for the Downtown Ministry's annual book sale, Mother-in-Law's linen for refugees, old uniforms for the Drama Soc....
The aim is to have the insulation in before the end of the winter.
Incidentally, our heat pump is set to 18°C and anything more is too hot for us.
GG
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Orange was pretty damned cold when I lived there for a few years, too
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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It was the ice on the inside of the windows that got to me in London.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Is that the Saint Pierre which goes with Miquelon? ...
Yes - it's a wonderful place! We've been there three times - the other times were in May (so foggy you couldn't see the end of your nose) and August (beautiful, sun splitting the rocks).
Two of our visits were for immigration/visa purposes when we had to leave the country: St. Pierre is actually part of France, a fact which becomes obvious as soon as you arrive. AFAIK there are no French cars in Newfoundland, not even a comedy Citroën, but SPM is full of them.
And the food. Ah, the food ... Even in the most ordinary of B&Bs or hotel restaurants, the food is absolutely to die for.
**sigh**
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Yes, the islands are an overseas department, but very difficult to get to from here. Even Newfoundland is out of the way, given the need to change planes at Vancouver and then Toronto or Ottowa. Even with good connections it's probably about 40 hours from here. But a good flight to Paris can be under 24.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Please whisper a prayer for one of my favourite church leaders
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Please whisper a prayer for one of my favourite church leaders
And now for his family and diocese. Rest in peace and rise in glory, Bishop Mac,
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Yes indeed. May he rise in the glory of our resurrected and ascended Lord.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Sad news.
I see his page on Wikipedia has already been updated.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Tomorrow, I begin, after church, a week's vacation. I will drive to Canberra, and see Banner Lady. She will graciously foster my car for the week.
I will fly to Brisbane, and conduct my god-daughter's wedding, which is tremendously exciting.
Today, in Brissie, my best friend's father died. Amongst many tear-ridden phone calls, I have been asked to conduct his funeral.
Weirdly enough, I was asked to do two baptisms, but upon reflection, we had decided to postpone them until September.
Life is weird, and happy and sad at times.
Bishop John worked with the UCA in my previous parish. He was a gracious and holy man.
Sigh.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Please whisper a prayer for one of my favourite church leaders
And now for his family and diocese. Rest in peace and rise in glory, Bishop Mac,
Amen
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Just talking to little Esther's grandma. The little one one is off life-support and stable. Prayer continuing.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by rexory:
Just talking to little Esther's grandma. The little one one is off life-support and stable. Prayer continuing.
Thanks for the update. Have been praying and wondering how things were.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Yes, me too
Well, fingers and toes firmly crossed. I talked to one of the workers on the sewerage pumping station being buried in the road at the end of the street. He estimates that they will be finished in 2 weeks time Hopefully that will mean the road is sealed and the nearest bus stop should be fully functional.
The other good news is that the company hired by my insurers rang and my driveway and fence are going to be fixed in the near future. It's difficult to get really excited about this when other people are still waiting to have their sub-standard houses fixed . I know there are often legal and engineering isssues involved, but it doesn't feel right.
Huia
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Happy Pentecost, everyone! I've just been to a most splendid Eucharist with baptisms at St John's Cathedral, Brisbane. If I were mystery worshipping, then thing thing I would remember in seven days is the font overflowing with water, and the Dean making a big splash as he inducted Lucy into the Body of Christ.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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That sounds like good news about little Esther, Rexory - prayers continuing from over here too.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Ro is now on her way to the bosom of family and shippies at the sunny end of Oz, and her very impressive Frontier Services Patrol vehicle is gathering much local comment on our front lawn.
Chez Banner - ministry advertising for free!
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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A party for the birthday of the church this morning, with lots of bright 'flames' as well as balloons and general joy. The bible reading was read simultaneously in English, Mandarin, Greek, Hindi, Maori, French, German and Latin, an awesome babel of tongues.
GG
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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A joyous celebration of Pentecost up here. I preached in part on the chaos of the Spirit, and the kids (fortunately?!) in their own way turned on the chaos more than ever.
But tempered by the sad news about +John. May his wife Jan and family be comforted by the Spirit.
Posted by Sandemaniac (# 12829) on
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Just a note to say a huge THANK YOU! to patdys who has both emailed and posted to me on a USB stick photos of granny's cousin's grave in Adelaide's Centennial Park.
The Floating Fund will get a boost in just a few minutes, plus I will do my best to commit a random act of genealogical kindness as soon as the opportunity presents.
Thank you so much, patdys, he was AWOL from 1919 until 2003, so it's fantastic to see where his final resting spot.
AG
Posted by Sandemaniac (# 12829) on
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...and entirely forgot to say "Cute wallaby!"
AG
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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No fun and games here. My brother developed flashing in his right eye on Monday evening. He went to GP yesterday who was concerned about the possibility of a detaching retina. From there straight to an emergency appointment with eye surgeon. After about five hours there, he was told to come back if symptoms returned but all seemed well.
Late last night the flashing returned, so my nephew drove him to ER at Sydney Eye Hospital. After a while, they also said there was no sign of detaching.
As hours pass the likelihood of this passes, but it's worrying.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thanks for the news Lothlorien - we'll look out for him over the weekend.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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My diocese heads into episcopal electoral mode on Saturday ... not significant enough to play "Predicting the Ocker Kiwi Purple", but spare a prayer for us, not least that we survive hours of hot air and repeated speeches. We will have a bishop at the end of it - NZ goes for first past the post 50% in both houses, as against the OZ 66% in both houses model.
I have my preferred candidate ... but I'm not saying who until after the result is out. These pixels have ears.
Candidate profiles are on the diocesan website if anyone wants a look.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Good luck, Zappa - for wisdom and discernment.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Lothlorien, We saw your brother this morning. He said his eye does not feel as it should, but after all the tests last Tuesday, the doctor made a further appointment for Thursday next week. In an emergency, he's to get straight back.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Had email, thanks Gee D. He's not supposed to do heavy lifting or gardening either.
I can imagine the eye feels assaulted after all the drops and poking and testing. We'll be glad when all has been cleared up.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Looked at your possibilities Zappa, I know one of them by name only and him because I think he was one of my mother's cousin's Sunday School boys.
Ah, degrees of separation in NZ!
Huia.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
one of my mother's cousin's Sunday School boys.
Ah, degrees of separation in NZ!
Huia.
Too close for comfort! I shall remain schtum until results can be made known. I can say though that I admired the spirit in which the debate and selection was conducted.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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I shall be limping off to the airport tomorrow to collect Rowen, who will be in a wheelchair.
Talk about the lame leading the lame...
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
I shall be limping off to the airport tomorrow to collect Rowen, who will be in a wheelchair.
Talk about the lame leading the lame...
I hope someone gets a photo! Will she be able to drive home?
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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I slipped in a wet bathroom...sprained a hip muscle. I can walk, but slowly. Airports are pretty big, so a chair will be handy.
A wedding of a family member in Brisbane... I limped my way through it, but had great fun.
A Buddhist originally from Sri Lanka, and she is from an Anglo UCA family. Glorious ethnic and religious wedding.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Take care, Rowen and prayer for quick healing.
Probably cold down your way. SMH reports snow all night at Perisher and still snowing.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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I should avoid the snow if I were you, Rowen - we don't want you taking another tumble.
Take care and get better soon!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Prayers for you both Rowen and Lothlorien - just saw your post on the JtC thread.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Rowen has successfully arrived and departed the National Capitol - thanks to wheelchairs and painkillers - perhaps the hardest part of the journey was the climb up into her patrol vehicle.
May the journey get easier as she goes home.
And so may it be for all of us.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Actually, climbing up into the big car is easy. My body knows the motions well. And painkillers help! I am supposed to rest when I get home... Typical sprain treatment, only it is around my hip, so rather odd.
I am in Cooma tonight. Bit chilly, what! Winter has certainly struck.
BL was very kind, as she limped away beside me. Two limpers... She even went into a computer shop and bought the right part for me, all computer illiterate and all. And then made me yummy sandwiches for the twilight journey.
May those who are cold, sore, and worried tonight, find warm rest somewhere.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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After a cold night in Cooma, a visiting friend contacted me in a panic. The usual Sydney to Orbost bus route is severely curtailed in winter, which we didn't know, and she, from OS, was in Sydney, and faced with great difficulty in getting into East Gippsland.
So, I turned around, directing myself and her into Canberra.
I am now in BL's house again, hanging round until my friend's bus arrives after lunch.
BL is as gracious as ever! Her house is warm and cosy, and the tea is plentiful.
Two tiny weeny ship meets in as many days!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Behave yourselves in that city of circles
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Biggest is now a learner driver.
Lord, have mercy.
mr curly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
Biggest is now a learner driver.
Lord, have mercy.
mr curly
I think I must have missed seeing some years whizz past.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Drive safely Biggest.
I haven't driven for over 20 years, but keep my license renewed as it is the only form of ID I have that is acceptable in most places.
Countdown to the shortest day I can put on extra clothes if I'm cold, but nothing really compensates for getting up in the dark. Matariki (Maori New Year) festival of light at the Port this weekend.
Huia
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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He has grown, hasn't he. Please post warnings if he'll be driving around here.
But it's a bugger having to do all the hours. Madame did the daytime ones, and then I took the 20 night-time hours. A long journey on well lit roads, with you having control of the music is the trick. That way, you can get 90 minutes to 2 hours in a night. Be careful of RBTs. Not only is the driver tested but also the supervising drive.
A good hint. That place out near St Ive's Showground (no advertising there) does a great job both at the beginning and just before the test. Book a half day course after the test has been booked, tell the instructor, and Biggest will be trained on the usual test routes and all the tricks pointed out.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Thanks for the tips Gee D. Once he has the same amount of enthusiasm for practicing for his 8th grade piano exam as getting behind the wheel, we'll be right. The word "leverage" comes to mind.
Mrs C took him to Warrawee last night for Yr 11 subject selection night. It all went well, but he was "tired" so they came home without going to a session on the subject he's not sure if he wants to do. ie the most important thing to go to.
Off course, having not woken them up until 6 to watch recording of Aus V Holland, I'm in trouble. The logical link between these events is denied.
Rant over.
mr curly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Lots of inconsistencies at that age, Mr Curly.. Priorities vary from day to day. At least that was my experience with each of three boys.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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They should have dropped in for a chat. Mrs C should ring and have a chat with the subject head, then all discuss with Biggest. And perhaps ask for a one-to-one talk at school. Heads like to grab students, popularity boosts their status and so forth.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Lots of inconsistencies at that age, Mr Curly.. Priorities vary from day to day. At least that was my experience with each of three boys.
One of the benefits of not having had children is that there is no one to put me through what I put my parents through as a teenager. (Of course it has its downsides too.)
A beautiful day today, but -2c is expected overnight - good thing I found my hottie. I may even have to wear a woolly hat to bed tonight. Thank heavens there is only the cat to laugh at me.
Huia
[ 19. June 2014, 05:58: Message edited by: Huia ]
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Pictures please
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
They should have dropped in for a chat. Mrs C should ring and have a chat with the subject head, then all discuss with Biggest. And perhaps ask for a one-to-one talk at school. Heads like to grab students, popularity boosts their status and so forth.
No doubt, the service IS excellent. Our time, on the other hand, is in short supply with assisting various unwell relatives* - apart from running the three ring circus that is our family life.
And I'm looking for more work - where would I fit it in?
mr curly
* Mother-in-law better, home from hospital earlier than expected after another round of chemo. Sister-in-law-in-law deteriorating at a steady pace with Motor Neuron disease.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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quote:
Originally posted by James the Confident:
Pictures please
And I always though you were a nice young man. My illusions have been shattered
I have neither the technological ability nor the technology, however the warmest single hat I own is a black knitted helmet lined with polar fleece. It has two buttons sewn on as eyes, whiskers stitched and black pointy ears lined with pink. I have only worn it once in public when all the other hats were wet. Small children were amused, while their parents looked at me sideways.
Georgie-Porgy does not think that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Huia
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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A foggy day this week where the temperature was 1 degree Celsius at midday saw TP out in the garden with the warmest hat on that he owns. It was made by my sister and looks remarkably like one worn in medieval portraits. A short cylinder made out of black velveteen with the reverse side padded purple fleecy, it has a back flap that covers both ears as well.
It makes him look very severe; the magpies that usually follow him around looking for worms gave him a wide berth that day.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thoughts from Julia Baird in today's SMH on Bishop John McIntyre.
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Thoughts from Julia Baird in today's SMH on Bishop John McIntyre.
Amen.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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and amen
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
and amen
I had not heard of John McIntyre until his passing, but I sure do wish I had meet him.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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He threatened to "sort me out outside" in a Synod once ... holding me by the collar. We laughed about it a few times in the years to come.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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PS
Our new purple will be announced today.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Did anyone else have the church life survey today? Is it still the go that it happens one Sunday of the year? I am amazed at whatever sorcery happened at my church today, almost every single once in a blue moon Sunday School attender was there today, instead of usual 6-8 kids we had 17
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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The death of Bishop John is a huge loss to both the Church Catholic, the Anglican Church, and to the nation. John stood up for what he saw as imperatives without counting the cost to himself.
Bishop John had accepted the invitation of our Communities to celebrate and preach at our Feast of Title in August, before which we were going to have discussions with him regarding becoming our 'Episcopal Visitor' or the like - his untimely and way-too-early death has been deeply felt. We continue to commend his soul to the protection of a loving and caring God.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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A New Boss
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on
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Prayers, Zappa, for all that a new boss means (good + scary).
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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he'll be fine
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Prayers for a good episcopate from here. (I don't think I will ever be used to bishops who look that young!)
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Yeah, I know, it's a bugger isn't it! He's 42. His brother in law was about the same age when he became Bishop of Auckland. But I thinks it's a good appointment given the degrees of separation and the choice pool in the EnZed ecclesia.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
Prayers for a good episcopate from here. (I don't think I will ever be used to bishops who look that young!)
First the doctors, the dentists, the policemen got younger and younger. Now the bishops. And my physio could be my grandson. Power to youth!
I know you can't tell a book by its cover, but my first impression was that I liked his face and manner of speaking.
GG
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I must be getting old - my first thought was how young he looked too.
huia
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
... He's 42 ...
Blimey - he's 10 years younger than me! I was quite taken aback when I found out that our new Bishop is a couple of years younger than me.
for you, Zappa, and your new boss.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Is not cradle-snatching a criminal offence in NZ?
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Miss M's new round of chemo is fairly savage. Done in clinic several times a week rather than admission. Probability of drug induced diabetes again, so she takes her levels, pricking finger and doing reading several times a day. A parent has to get up at 3:00 am for another test. Lots of joint pain which comes from both the illness and the new chemo. Big black circles around enormous eyes and mor e lethargy than for a long time.
Despite appearances, doctors are pleased with her progress.
If all goes well with this lot in a couple of months she will be on a maintenance dose. Already takes various medicines at different times through the day.
Posted by mertide (# 4500) on
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Rowen: I saw your sister at A's mother's funeral this week, haven't seen her for years! Quite odd all of us suddenly looking 50!
Hope you stay safe with the storms heading through your area, my daughter in Sale says it's very black now.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Ongoing prayers for Miss M and her family.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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meritide, my sister was surprised to learn go our connection! Such is the power of the Internet....
I have decamped to a course just out of Sydney. A few days of interesting study in disaster ministries. So, it can huff and puff in Victoria as much as it wants too!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Strong winds forecast here for Sydney, Rowen, and blizzards for Southern Tablelands and grazier alert for various areas. Perhaps you brought it with you.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Is not cradle-snatching a criminal offence in NZ?
Despite the nappies he has a good track record. He'll do goodly.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Prayers of course for him now, on his consecration, his episcopate - and for the whole diocese as well.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Prayers for Miss M. Keep up the fight, girl!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Horrified (but not surprised) at the news of the appointment of the new Northern Territory bishop. Basically the diocese has fallen to Sydney. Worse, I fear much of the work kuruman was doing will be undone.
Miss M
[ 23. June 2014, 17:31: Message edited by: Zappa ]
Posted by jugular (# 4174) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Horrified
That was my response, but apparently he's a terribly decent chap who respects diversity and the ordination of women and loves puppies and makes everyone cupcakes and farts fairy floss.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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quote:
Originally posted by jugular:
... apparently he's a terribly decent chap who ... farts fairy floss.
That'll be nice for his chaplain*.
* or "fart-catcher" as D. calls them.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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A quick trip to Sydney to do a course... And escape tne Victorian cold.
The UCA Assembly runs a disaster chaplaincy course, and then, at least in NSW, looks after the state's disaster ministry response, on behalf of most of the denominations.
Interesting range of folk... UCA with several Frontier Services, clergy from any denominations, nuns, Anglicare staff, a few lay folk from various places....
Technically, I don't need this course, as I got to do the Victorian one. However, we decided that it would be a plus if I became one of tne first chaplains recognised by both states. Fires this year have taught us that disasters don't respect state borders.
Much of the material I know, but it is good to cover it again. Our presenter is excellent. Fellowship is good, and it has been great to spend time with FS ministers.
Wonderful to be out of the great southeast cold, although folk here think it is very cold for Sydney.
Home by Friday. Cold then.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Rowen, is fellow from NSW with initials SR there? I guess he probably is with position he holds with UC. Friends with my St John chaplain friend who used to attend the church he pastored before this appointment.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Yes, SR is the presenter. And very good at it.
Course complete. Out to dinner with fellow Frontier Services clergy tonight.
Homewards in the morning.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Travel well Rowen. Just how do you get back to your parish from Sydney, apart from a long drive down the coast?
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Well, the quickest way....
Drive to Southern Highlands. FS says the total drive is too far for one day, so they are paying for me to spend tne night therein. I intend to explore Berrima and so forth.
Then Canberra for lunch Friday, where I will meet with Presbytery leaders to talk about border ministry and possible options.
Then Cooma, Bombala, Cann River, Orbost. Considerably quicker than tne coast, thankfully. If I don't make Orbost by dark, and I won't, maybe a very mediocre motel in Cann...depends how long lunch is, and how brave I feel.
Leaving the warmer north behind, and going south into COLD.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Packing up today for our Northern Territory adventure - fly to Darwin tomorrow, drive to Uluru over 2 weeks and fly home 13th July. Mrs C and I have done the trip before but have not taken the young un's into the wide open spaces before.
Will be online occasionally to keep you posted and catch up on the things we're all praying for.
mr curly
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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quote:
Originally posted by jugular:
quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
Horrified
That was my response, but apparently he's a terribly decent chap who respects diversity and the ordination of women and loves puppies and makes everyone cupcakes and farts fairy floss.
That's what they said about certain other episcopal appointments of Sydneysiders.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Another happy cuzzies' lunch – six of us from five families, three octogenarians and one with her big birthday coming up. Lots of old family legends exchanged, and always a warm welcome from the staff of the restaurant. We're hoping to have a couple of the next generation next time – and they're both grandparents.
Then to a community Matariki celebration, one aspect of which is the telling of our stories, so we'd picked the right day for the family gathering.
The Grandad a little envious, as his cousins are scattered round the world in different cultures and circumstances, and he hadn't had the same sort of times with them as our lot had enjoyed.
Enjoy and cherish those cussies, especially if you don't have siblings.
Nga mihi nui.
GG
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Here Matariki* is being celebrated with a festival of Light in Lyttelton and the planting of a barren area in the Red Zone.
* nearest equivalent is Maori New Year - though that is only part of what it's about.
Huia
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Matariki
This is a better explanation.
Huia
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
Packing up today for our Northern Territory adventure - fly to Darwin tomorrow, drive to Uluru over 2
Wave to Fred's Pass as you pass
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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GG, we had two of those in the last fortnight - one for my mum's 80th, then, sadly, for the funeral of my cousin.
For the first, I put up pics of my mum's life from birth to now, and it was truly fantastic to listen to the OBEs (Over Bloody Eighties) talking about their lives and the life of the town we all grew up in.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Sister arriving from far NQ today. I wonder if the National Capitol will get into double figures temperature wise. The last few days have been rather bleak, so I am putting on my Pollyanna hat and hoping for some sunshine.
Went to buy flowers from a local market fair yesterday and rugged up to deal with the Antarctic winds (wind chill factor meant that the whole day rated at @ -2C). A couple of shivering tourists saw me hobbling in and said "You must be a local, right?"
Yep. But it's days like this that make me wish I wasn't any more.
BL. Dreaming of palm trees and warm sunshine again.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Come to sunny christchurch - 16c here this arvo.
(Not for long, but it's lovely here in the sun).
Huia
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Warmer than here - Madame said a short while ago that it was only 11 at home (about 200 m ASL, and 15 km inland).
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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The day looks beautiful, but it's quite cold here and I am closer to water and lower than you. Lamb, barley and vegetable soup for lunch was a good choice.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Warm sunshine here; but I'm sure you don't really want to know that.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Loads of sunshine here too, WW, but nothing much warm about it. Nasty strong wind but not as strong as gales of a few days ago. The wind jus blowing over substantial dumps of snow.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Edit time passed. "The wind is blowing."
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Enough of winter, Sydney it is freezing, with an icy wind straight from Antarctica. Feeling in need of moving a long way northwards, Trinity Beach is calling me.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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There are some good things happening in the Northern Territory. Night time is a brisk 18 degrees, daytime a truly frigid 28 degrees, sunny with low humidity. ALL are welcome at Christ Church Cathedral Darwin.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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I'm just booking my ticket now DD, sounds perfect.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
... daytime a truly frigid 28 degrees ....
Is that Fahrenheit or Centigrade?
According to Environment Canada it's 16°C here at the moment, and due to go up to the low-mid-20s this afternoon and more of the same.
Frigid? I don't think so!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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All relative, Piglet! Another cold morning here, even where I am in Sydney.
However, the sun is streaming onto my back as I sit here with second (and last) espresso for the day. It's the equivalent of comfort food for my back.
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
All relative, Piglet! Another cold morning here, even where I am in Sydney.
However, the sun is streaming onto my back as I sit here with second (and last) espresso for the day. It's the equivalent of comfort food for my back.
It was 6.8 here but a brisk 35 in walk soon fixed that!! Now for the household chores etc
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Evangeline, would not come tonight. It is like World War 2 outside - to celebrate Territory Day, people are encouraged to buy as many fireworks as possible. It is like a re-enactment of the Battle of El Alamein at the top end of the Stuart Highway.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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We'll be expecting fireworks tonight too, for Canada Day. Here in Newfoundland, until 12 noon it's called "Memorial Day" (to commemorate the many Newfoundlanders who were killed in the First World War, especially at Beaumont Hamel), and Canada Day is celebrated thereafter.
It's apparently already 23°C, and getting warmer ...
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
Evangeline, would not come tonight. It is like World War 2 outside - to celebrate Territory Day, people are encouraged to buy as many fireworks as possible. It is like a re-enactment of the Battle of El Alamein at the top end of the Stuart Highway.
Yeah, can't say I miss that ...
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
Evangeline, would not come tonight. It is like World War 2 outside - to celebrate Territory Day, people are encouraged to buy as many fireworks as possible. It is like a re-enactment of the Battle of El Alamein at the top end of the Stuart Highway.
There was only a minor skirmish out in kakadu, obviously tourists not as into it as locals in Darwin.
We're doing the Yellow Waters cruise at dusk tonight after a day of walks etc, then off to Katherine tomorrow. Top temps of 28deg c in mid winter does make for good touring!
mr curly
Posted by mertide (# 4500) on
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At Parap, it was on for a couple of weeks either side for the calendar challenged.
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on
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Canberra in winter is a shock after years in Fiji! And Mrs T and I have caught most the local viruses (medical kind) , which have left us coughing and spluttering for weeks.
Looking forward to a "holiday' on the Sunshine Coast (Qld) in a couple of weeks time. The more so, as our son and my mother both live there, and a niece (also there) is about to deliver her second child.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Tonight the Leading Edge is heading for 4°C with a big wind chill taking it down to a "feels like" of -2°C. I'll be standing in that wearing nothing but a pair of togs in the morning. I think I'll be diving in real fast (and be reluctant to get out) ...
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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That's polar bear stuff Zappa.
I'm glad I joined a gym with a lovely warm shower - first visit and the wonderful shower gel I bought to reward myself wouldn't open
-3 overnight here and tomorrow's high is about 7c. Snow is forecast for the Peninsula, but not the city. Unfortunately I have 3 appointments spread over the day- thank goodness for a good bus service, a windproof coat and waterproof shoes, along with a couple of beanies.
for those in substandard and yet to be fixed homes in Christchurch.
Huia
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
... I'll be diving in real fast (and be reluctant to get out) ...
That sounds like my philosophy when we went to the Blue Lagoon in Iceland - it was winter, and the outside temperature was hovering around the 0°C mark. Hot shower, quick dash, dive into hot spring and let the hailstones fall on your head.
Heaven on earth.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Yup. It was nippy but good (and hard to get out).
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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NO no no no. I do not want to think about ice. Or cold. Or viruses. Or wind. Or winter. I shall sing the Smurf song in my head and pretend it is just a temporary sojourn in hell. Perhaps it will all go away. Eventually.
La, la lalalala......
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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SMH has suburb just over road in front of me as four degrees feeling like one degree. That's barely ten minutes walk from river and not far as crow flies from harbour.
So I guess it's so what colder in Canberra.
I think my family has been taking drama lessons. Had Master Eight here last night unexpectedly last night and will be taking him home on train this afternoon. Minding him and his sister tomorrow, then more probable drama with another son and family at weekend.
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Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Grandson now here till Saturday. Will have to take him shopping as he arrived with only the clothes he was wearing yesterday.
Miss M is struggling with this lot of chemo. It's knocking her around and has put her back in a wheelchair. At least another four weeks, possibly five of it left.
[ 03. July 2014, 06:50: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
NO no no no. I do not want to think about ice. Or cold ...
Come to sunny Newfoundland, where it's currently
24°C.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Day off today, getting the car ready for my trip to Sydney tomorrow.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Gorgeous day here, James, but cold nights.
Am minding eight year old grandson and entertaining him. Place looks like a graveyard for paper planes.
Have just updated my old iPhone's operating system and made sure it is all backed up. Now updating operating system on phone my son gave me the other night, then a restore, then activate a new SIM. Thank goodness my sons brought me up relatively tech savvy, at least a lot more than many others.
My old phone is well over 100 years old in phone years and son got a good deal on contract. Has passed his phone down to me. I have always had hand me down phones. No problem to me.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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I'm the hander downerer!
I have a Samsung S4 at the moment, looking at a Sony Experia. Lovely
Off to bed soon for an early start.
[ 04. July 2014, 11:08: Message edited by: James the Confident ]
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Heh. I'm the owner of a real dinosaur. But I like my iphone3 despite the pitying glances of my grandchildren. Even the 2 year olds in the family have more modern technology than that thanks to all the hand me downs.
TP's phone is the most basic $20 mobile able to be found on the market. As he spends most of his time in the eighteenth century he dislikes having to have one at all, and takes it with him under duress. (ie: much nagging from his wife or daughters who occasionally need to know where he is.)
As for replacing sims, loading apps and programming new appliances; I thought that's what children and grandchildren were for...
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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New experia owner here.
Just learning.
Very upmarket!
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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I had reached the ripe old age of 50 before I got a mobile (it's a Samsung fold-up affair). I've worked out how to make it take photographs, but how to get them anywhere else is a complete mystery. I've sent a grand total of (I think) four text messages in the two years I've had it (and they took me ages) and the plan I have doesn't include use of the interweb, but TBH I don't care - all I really want it to do is make telephone calls.
And even though I don't use it very often, I wouldn't be without it now that I have it.
prehistoric piglet
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I'm having radical thoughts about moving up to a touchscreen model as Samsung make a phone that would fit my needs almost perfectly - I may try and see it in the flesh at the Mall this morning but will probably buy online when I buy as that will be cheaper.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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I have a completely decrepit, a kid referred to it as "really retro"-so polite Nokia phone that doesn't take photos and can't access the web. I have an Ipad mini though so between the two of them I'm resisting getting an iphone but one day I shall have to succumb.
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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Work phone is a horrendous Simian Nokia which drives me mad. Theoretically it can access the internet but not really. Personal phone is a touch screen Alcatel One Touch that will need upgrading for 4G sometime soon, but having had a Smartphone I really hate my work phone's clunkiness. (Alcaltel are Android and producing phones with specifications that match the other phones at a much better price)
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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We bought a cheap mobile to contact hosts and friends during our UK trip in 2011; my plan was to bin it as we left but the Grandad said no, it MIght Come In™. And sure enough, when the operating system in NZ was changed it was exactly what we needed – to make and receive phone calls:'I'm just leaving the supermarket, so you can put the kettle on' or 'I left the shopping list on the bench; please can you read it out to me'. Son has programmes a one-key number for Home and another for Wonderful Son, and I can just cope with sending and receiving texts. What more do I need?
GG
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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All my phones have been hand me downs. I was to pay out contract when son passed down his iPhone 4. I asked and asked and was told if they wanted the money they would tell me. In other words, forget it.
GG, that's how I straterd with phones. Then progressed to a picture or two which I would never have opportunity aagian of taking.
I certainly don't use phone as my sons do but do have other uses. Evernote is a very useful program for notes, studies etc, Even notes for shopping. I put knitting patterns onto it in PDF format and it syncs across to iPad. I can then enlarge complicated lace patterns to be easily seen. Not everyone's use, I admit, but very handy for me.
I don't have much music on it. Hearing aids preclude headphone usage for me and I would not inflict my choice of music on those around.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Apparently there is no diesel left in Tennant Creek tonight. Just as well I filled up before dinner.
Feeling smug
mr curly
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
We bought a cheap mobile to contact hosts and friends during our UK trip ...
D's brother-in-law got a couple of very basic pay-as-you-go mobiles for us to use last time we were home (even our service provider had said that at $70 it wasn't worth our while to make our Canadian mobiles work in the UK), so I expect we'll borrow them again next time we're over.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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I'm in Sydney waiting to pick Ms. Confident up from the airport at 2120.
Posted by Ye Olde Motherboarde (# 54) on
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6 NATIONAL KISSING DAY !
A bit late, but since it is so cold, this will warm you up! Start kissing!
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Cool 6am start at the Marine Rescue Base.
Quite a few whales are making their way north. Waterspouts and breachings happening quite frequently. I wonder does the local whale watching boat really have to go 5 nautical miles offshore?
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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My mobile is a Motorola 525 I picked up for $80 on ebay a couple of years ago. Works OK but could need less re-booting. Also, it used to be a Telstra phone and has Telstra apps on it that cannot be used. I looked at rooting it to remove them, but the risk of bricking it means I just try to ignore them.
I am starting to look out for a new one.
Posted by Kittyville (# 16106) on
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Well done, Father Bower!
I have to admit that I hadn't heard of him until reading about him in today's paper, but I like his style.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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The guy's a star in my book - well done, Fr. Bower!
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Thanks for the link Kittyville.
Some of his critics need to know there's more to being Christian than quoting the Bible.
My good news for the day is that the driveway blokes are coming back with quotes tomorrow. At last. hopefully then I can sort out the plumbers, the insulation installers and the re-wirers. I am so fed up with all this.
Huia
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Fr Rod Bower is a good friend and a remarkable priest! And as you might have guessed, also a remarkable communicator. The new church in Gosford has a wonderful labyrinth in its carpet, worth looking at if you are ever in Gosford.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Job available at St Andrew's Cathedral in Sydney in new year. Ability to speak Engllish a must, other languages, especially Latin will be poorly regarded.
Applications to Dean Phillip.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Sore legs after walking the magnificent 7km Ormiston Pound walk in West MacDonnell ranges. Amazing, ancient scenes.
A couple of Coopers Sparklings are helping.
Heading south to Kings Canyon tomorrow. Kids travelling well.
mr curly
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
The guy's a star in my book - well done, Fr. Bower!
I follow the noticeboard on Facebook. The SMH had an article on him on Monday.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Ah from the sublime to the ridiculous, Fr Bower in Gosford to the Dean of Sydney.
Surely the Dean must be retiring soon Loth, is it his job up for grabs? I heard a rumour that Philip hasn't been seen around the Cathedral much since his brother retired.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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For those who would like to see the discussion in the High Court on Monday evening, resulting in the interim injunction concerning the Sri Lankans. JARK is, of course, a pseudonym.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Evangeline:
Ah from the sublime to the ridiculous, Fr Bower in Gosford to the Dean of Sydney.
Surely the Dean must be retiring soon Loth, is it his job up for grabs? I heard a rumour that Philip hasn't been seen around the Cathedral much since his brother retired.
I was poking around yesterday and found
this article by the Dean. Down near the bottom, after some self justification, is the announcement of a new company, Two Ways Ministries, based at Moore. He will be joining that. From the name, and his background, I guess it's possibly something from St Matthias.
[ 08. July 2014, 21:51: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien
was poking around yesterday and found
this article by the Dean. Down near the bottom, after some self justification, is the announcement of a new company, Two Ways Ministries, based at Moore. He will be joining that. From the name, and his background, I guess it's possibly something from St Matthias.
Oh my, what a very telling little piece that is. Self-agrandisment that is so extreme it borders on the blasphemous.
As for this
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The process of appointing a Dean is “by the Archbishop with the concurrence of the Chapter”. The present Archbishop has invited the Chapter to share with him in the process of finding my successor. It is important that we pray for the Chapter’s wisdom as they consider this appointment. - See more at: http://phillipjensen.com/articles/pastoral-ministry-and-changes/#sthash.nVnalC7p.dpuf
Why deliberately exclude the Abp from the prayer request? Seems rather pointed.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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He certainly takes a lot of credit for anything, including school. Perhaps he's been drumming up congregations to provide future pupils?
Smug is not the word for the tone of the article. I could hardly bear to read it through.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Smug is not the word for the tone of the article. I could hardly bear to read it through.
Now for a rousing chorus; "O but it's hard to be humble, when you're perfect in every way..."
I though he also sounded defensive about Pastoral care. He sounded like he though it only extended to getting a person, or sheep (back) into the fold, rather than caring for people in an ongoing way. Cold.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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My memory of him will be the Carols broadcast on ABC a couple of years ago. Quite a few of us he watched for varying lengths.
Choir was good, especially considering limitations place on it by the Dean. Soloists were great.
Dean jumped up and down like a Jack-in-the-box, grinning all the time like a Cheshire Cat,to mix metaphors terribly. It was supposed to be something like Carols from Kings, but there was a lengthy sermon in the middle. I wrote to ABC and received a reply saying my complaint was similar to many received. He spoilt the whole thing.
[ 09. July 2014, 07:25: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Your observation about pastoral care is spot on Huia. The only priority is to convert, evidenced by assent to a doctrinal statement, he did actually write an article I remember basically saying it was nice to visit somebody in hospital but it really wasn't a priority compared to telling people there were 2 ways to live.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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It's statements like that that make me so glad I do not self-identify as Christian!
Which part of feeding the hungry, caring for the sick and visiting those in prison doesn't he understand?
Aha! All of them!
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Yesterday, I attended the funeral of baby Esther. Her life support had to be turned off a few days ago, because her heart and lungs were simply not up to the task. It has been hard time for the little one's family, and they are grateful for all the prayers which have been offered for her and them.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you Rexory for telling us. We had been wondering if she were making progress. May Esther forever know the gentle arms of our Risen Lord.
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Now, and in the future and especially for the next year, is the time for us, and especially their community to help them bear the burden of their loss. Some will want to gloss over the reality of her life in an attempt to ease their pain. But we must not be a part of that.
Esther and her family
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thank you, Rexory. I too have been wondering how she was as I prayed for her and her family.
Prayers continuing.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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for Esther and all who mourn her.
Rest eternal grant unto her, O Lord, and let light perpetual shine upon her.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Holding her, her family and all who mourn her in the Light.
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Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Esther. May she now grow perfectly in heaven into all God has purposed for her.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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For baby Esther and all who mourn for her. Special prayers rom one mother to another.
GG
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I have posted on prayer thread for the five year old boy who was swept into sea at Pearl Beach on central coast here more than 24 hours ago now.
I know the beach very well. Where he was playing was at the end of the beach which gets force of currents and waves direct from ocean rolling In to Broken Bay. The other end is more sheltered by a headland.
I saw many fishing trawlers come around the point from mouth of Hawkesbury in the morning. It was deep enough for them to anchor about a metre from the shore and a fisherman would hop out, walk across beach for cigarettes and trawler would leave again.
Lots of rips and we were not allowed in surf. We had to stay in pool.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Home.
mr curly
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Got to Kiama yesterday. Never been before. Blowhole was blowing and so was a freezing wind. But it was nice to see palm trees again, and some sunshine. And the sea. And to smell salt air. Just a shame about the temperature, really!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Kiama is pleasant. Blowhole works best with southerly blowing so it should have been working well.
A nasty shock here this morning. I opened the emailed gas bill to find this quarter says nearly $1400. A small apartment, I don't use heater in the daytime and have it on low at night. Not every night. Certainly not in the day as sun shines in brightly and I sit with it on my back.
This amount is many times the last bill and many times similar bill last year. Obviously, I will need to make enquiries, but opening it made mr feel ill.
[ 16. July 2014, 22:45: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I have just gone through all bank statements online and listed gas payments. Rang gas company and they need to inspect the main meter and the subsidiary one in apartment. However, when woman pulled up account, she said there seemed to be something wrong with latest bill.
Still feel all churned up and dithery.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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That sort of thing sounds really scary, Loth - even if you're 99.99% sure it must be wrong, it looks scary in print.
Hope you can get it sorted out all right.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Lothlorien, you should speak with your brother. He has written quite a bit on consumer protection law, and there's sure to be a specific way to approach difficulties with utilities suppliers.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Have been in touch, thanks. He has forwarded me some info. His bill, which came a couple of days ago is much less than this one. His included the gas central heating which comes on automatically twice a day for some hours.
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Posted by Left at the Altar (# 5077) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Lothlorien, you should speak with your brother. He has written quite a bit on consumer protection law, and there's sure to be a specific way to approach difficulties with utilities suppliers.
Here
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thanks LATA. I have those details tucked away in a file already. All help welcome. However, as GeeD said, brother is other end of phone line.
If you want more detail after reading GeeD's post, send me message or email. Won't post family details online.
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Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Loth, I'm glad you have knowledgeable people around (as well as having the commonsense to know how to deal with it) - I always find those things a bit scary. Somehow seeing things written down makes it worse, even though you know it must be an error.
Today I received a quote for fixing the driveway, which was a lower figure than I expected. Because I am not replacing an unnecessary path, the money I was paid out by the insurance company will cover it, with enough left over to insulate my house .
I am so grateful to the bloke from the insurance company who pointed out that it was my choice how I used the money.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Hope you get the insulating done soon. Today is very cold with roads closed due to snow and black ice in Blue Mountains. Lots more snow elsewhere.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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I am in Mallacoota tonight, called in as police chaplain.... The police are managing the process of grieving in town. A couple from here were on the plane. The plane that was shot down.
I assume friends and family are doing their own thing, but on a more general level, in a small town, everyone mourns. Information needs to be managed and so on.
I was referred in, as police chaplain, by chaplaincy HQ in police. I am pleased they recognise I might be useful, but sad to do so in such a situation.
God be with this who lost loved ones .
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Yes indeed Rowen, we understand the grief in a small town, where everyone knew those lost and knows those bereaved. It's the same sense that makes small town and suburban Anzac Day services so much more moving than the big marches in cities.
Prayers from us for those lost. May they rest in peace and rise in the glory of our risen Lord. Prayers also for those who mourn and those who support them.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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There was an article in the Daily Telegraph on the web today about an Australian lady who lost her brother on the Malaysian Airlines plane that disappeared in March, and has now lost her stepdaughter on the one that was shot down.
for all who mourn, and for the souls of all who were killed.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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beyond awful - so much potential for good has been lost with the lives of those on board - may God bring alongside all who mourn those who can minister to them. Rowen, may you have the Word you need when there are no words to say.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Thanks. Really, all I am doing is just sitting and listening, and being proof to small kids that you can fly on planes and not die.
Rain and cold cold cold just make it all grimmer.
There are no immediate grieving family members here. There will be eventually, but all are away at a family reunion OS.... Hence the flight involvement.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Rowen, it sounds as if those prayers are needed now and in future.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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The news from Ukraine is getting worse with each bulletin, and the stories about those murdered becoming more and more heart-wrenching. Keep up the good work Rowen. Mallacoota is such a pretty little township, and now to have this grief descend on it.
In better news, a great victory over Trinity in both the Firsts and the Seconds - 62-17 for the Firsts and 64 - 3 for the Seconds. An excellent start to the competition round after a good run last quarter.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Rowen:
Thanks. Really, all I am doing is just sitting and listening, and being proof to small kids that you can fly on planes and not die.
Rain and cold cold cold just make it all grimmer.
There are no immediate grieving family members here. There will be eventually, but all are away at a family reunion OS.... Hence the flight involvement.
One is a kiwi, so there's a fair degree of grief here too. The other kiwi resident on board, technically a Brit, is from the area from which I originally came, and was well known there, so much grief there, too. But basically much grief in many places, I guess.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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We had a very impromptu Memorial Service at the Cathedral this morning. Local ABC TV turned up - there have been three people lost on MH17 from the Top End, including a wonderful young woman who was a teacher at a remote Aboriginal community. We will join with our RC brethren at a mass at the Catholic Cathedral on Wednesday evening. Our theme this morning (picked up quite well by the ABC reporter) was peace and justice, not revenge.
May the Lord have mercy on those who died and on those who committed this crime; may there be justice; and may those who mourn be comforted.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I was in the queue in the supermarket and saw the Press headlines. Lynda Pattison, the Dean of Christchurch Cathedral has died. I have kind of lost touch with the Cathedral, but Lynda's wrting was always thought provoking and she was a woman I admired.
The checkout of a supermarket is not a good place to discover bad news.
May she rest in peace and rise in glory.
the Regulars at the Cathedral who have gone through a lot in the last 4 years.
Huia
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Crikey, Huia, she was only 40. The last few years must have been so incredibly stressful for her. May she rest in peace and rise in glory.
[ 21. July 2014, 05:15: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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for those affected by the air crash.
I have to admit I am tiring of the media frenzy over it. It is being portrayed as murder when it is quite clear the perpetrators thought it was a military plane. Surely this means at worst it is manslaughter, not murder.
Please, don't get me wrong, I am appalled too, as much by the complacency of the people in charge of air traffic who deemed it okay to fly as well as the airlines (note the plural) who flew that way to save money. I have been told Qantas decided against that route some time ago.
If it had indeed been a military plane shot down, would we have been so horrified? I somehow doubt it.
We now need to pray that there will be cooperation in the repatriation of the bodies and the recovery of significant materials, e.g. the black boxes.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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No James, it is murder. The fact that the victims were civilians rather than the intended military is of no consequence - the intention was still to kill. If I go out intending to shoot and kill your fiancée, but by bad aiming get you instead, it is still murder. And apart from any intenrion to kill, it was an act done with reckless indifference to human life, a classic example of this basis for murder introduced by Sir James Stephens.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Not just disregard for human life, but the dreadful lack of respect for the human results – the treatment of the bodies and the looting of their effects.
And the flouting of international convention, keeping international specialists out, and arguing over possession of the 'black box' – actually orange, and we've seen the video of someone carrying it across the field. (Wouldn't there be two 'black boxes?)
GG
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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On the evidence so far, based on my knowledge of the Laws of Armed Conflict and an academic and professional background in military ethics, the destruction of MH17 appears to be a war crime, and therefore murder. (NOTE: on the evidence so far, in which it appears that armed persons in a civil war used military equipment to shoot down a civilian plane).
How can we say this? Obviously, if the separatists deliberately targeted and shot down a civilian plane, knowing it to be a civilian plane, then it is a war crime. Secondly, if they shot down the plane with reckless indifference - that is, not bothering to check if it was a civilian plane or not - that is still a war crime. It would not be a war crime if they made an honest mistake (for example, were unaware that it was in the area, aimed at a Ukrainian military plane, and accidentally hit the civilian plane) but there is no evidence that this is what happened. So, on the limited evidence so far, it appears likely that the shooting was a criminal act, which we could call murder, either through intention or reckless indifference.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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I'm not an expert in any relevant field, but from what I've read and heard about the crash and its aftermath it seems that if the "rebel forces" had done nothing wrong, they wouldn't be hampering the crash investigators by not allowing them access to the crash-site and messing about with the evidence - how were they able to spirit away the "black box"?
As for the way they're apparently treating the bodies of the passengers ... words fail me.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Point taken but I'm still sick of hearing about it.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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DangerousDeacon, would the rules you quote apply to an organisation such as the separatist movement in Ukraine? AFAIK, only Russia gives any recognition to it, and otherwise it's in the same category as the KKK, or one of the bikie organisations.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Crikey, Huia, she was only 40. The last few years must have been so incredibly stressful for her. May she rest in peace and rise in glory.
There is a massive collective mourning going around the national church (adding to the horror of Gaza and MH17). I'll be going to her funeral (the details are not yet announced):the dean's network of eight people is deeply shocked.
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Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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I heard about the Dean of Christchurch via friends in the Church of Ireland on FB, and thought at first they were talking about Christ Church Cathedral in Dublin. 40 is far too young.
for her friends, congregation, colleagues and all in the Church of New Zealand who mourn her loss.
Rest eternal grant unto her, O Lord, and let light perpetual shine upon her.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Zappa, if you're coming to Christchurch bring your winter woolies. It has been seriously cold here. The other day the temperature was 9c but the wind chill factor brought it down to around 2c.
Besides it being the depths of winter there is a catalogue of difficult things; international, national, local, with friends and family, and immediately personal, so much so that I'm feeling overwhelmed. I have a very strong temptation just to go to bed, pull up the covers and not emerge until spring.
It's not so much the black dog, more like a pack of rabid wolverines.
Huia
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Zappa, if you're coming to Christchurch bring your winter woolies. It has been seriously cold here. The other day the temperature was 9c but the wind chill factor brought it down to around 2c.
Huia
I will be wearing the new thermals I bought today. The funeral is on Tuesday. I'm afraid It'll be a same day hit and run as I'm supposed to be at a conference in Rotorua, but I'm representing my diocese.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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(PS ... the leading edge hasn't been much warmer - 9°C RealFeel® of 5°C here today. I haven't been swimming this week as kuruman is away, but I'm quite pleased, as the dash from (most) clothes to water has been getting pretty scary)
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Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I am very glad I own here. There are places I would prefer, but this is just fine. I bought here three years ago. The place downstairs is identical in layout to mine but looks straight onto other buildings whereas mine has city views and trees etc. That place is for sale for almost $100,000 more than I paid for here three years ago. That is an increase of well over 20%.
It is reported today that the median house price in Sydney is now over $810,000. A one bedroom, unrenovated terrace in Sydney with no parking went at auction for more than that at the weekend. Ridiculous.
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on
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Some here may like this obit
Jengie
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thank you for that. I knew little about her but was impressed by what she had done in such a short life and bt the spirit in which she acted.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
DangerousDeacon, would the rules you quote apply to an organisation such as the separatist movement in Ukraine? AFAIK, only Russia gives any recognition to it, and otherwise it's in the same category as the KKK, or one of the bikie organisations.
Hi Gee D. Yes, the rules do apply. They are a bit slippery in dealing with non-state actors (such as terrorists), but the Geneva Conventions and the Laws of Armed Conflict certainly apply to organised combatants claiming to act on behalf of a state entity - such as separatists controlling a large slab of territory, running a state and engaging in a civil war. Thus ISIS shooting Iraqi soldiers who have surrendered and the forces of the "Donetsk Republic" firing at civilian planes could be considered war crimes.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Thanks Jengie.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you DangerousDeacon. That may lead to a difference between civilian law and military - killing a person other than your intended victim would be murder in a civilian court, but not so in a military one from what you say about the rules. And another question - can the rules apply to someone other than a person on the opposing sides, such as the Malaysian plane going about its usual civilian duties? It just sounds odd to me that it is not a crime under the rules you refer to because of a claim that it was a case of mistaken identity.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Hi Gee D. Good point, but mistaken identity also applies in civil law. It depends on the original intention of your action. If, for example, you are in New South Wales, with a rifle, and you are on a pig hunting expedition. You are firing at a pig, but you just miss and your shot hits another hunter, killing him. Probably not murder, because you were intending to kill a pig. (Manslaughter maybe). (NOTE: I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice!!) But if you were a gang member in Sydney, and you did a drive-by shooting and hit the wrong person, it certainly is murder.
In the Law of Armed Conflict, if you are firing at a legitimate target (e.g. another soldier, a military plane); and hit a civilian standing nearby or a civilian airplane in the same area, then like the pig shooter, probably not murder. But if you are firing at one civilian airplane and hit another, it may be mistaken identity, but like the drive-by shooter, it is murder. And of course, if you were just shooting a civilian plane, knowing it is likely to be a civilian plane but not caring about its exact identity, still murder.
Now, those are just broad principles, each case will have details that may incline to a verdict of murder, manslaughter, or not guilty ... But that would be a long, long discussion.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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...that probably belongs in Purgatory!
I have found the discussion interesting but think it is heading away from AS material so I suggest Purg or PM seems the way to go if it is to continue.
Thanks.
WW - AS Host.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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No worries, WW! If anyone else is interested in taking it to Purgatory, happy to follow.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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On a less purgatorial note - I am shortly travelling to Griffith NSW for the Australian Deans' Conference. Any other shipmates likely to be in town?
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Griffith, oh my goodness, that's a rather obscure place for everyone to have to get to, and a long journey for you, surely DD? I'm guessing you won't be bumping into the Dean of Sydney there.
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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Can recommend the bistro at the Ex-Services Club if you are at a loose end. Some interesting menu choices - not your standard club fare.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
On a less purgatorial note - I am shortly travelling to Griffith NSW for the Australian Deans' Conference. Any other shipmates likely to be in town?
And we can recommend an Italian restaurant in the main street - sort of over the road from the Comfort Inn Gemini.
And a slight diversion, not wanting to contravene any hostly suggestions, but thanks for you discussion of the rules of engagement. I shan't really need to follow that any further.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Crumbs, I'm tired.
Middle has scored a goal in each of his first 2 comeback soccer games. Biggest had a big win at AFL, while Little Miss's netball was called off.
We had friends over for dinner on Sat night, (during which I had a migraine), family lunch at in-laws today.
I am exhausted in a post-migraine way.
Two crowns at the dentist tomorrow am, interview with recruiter on Tuesday, day's work on Thursday. Mrs C's birthday Wednesday.
Still exhausted
mr curly
from top of the page.
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Spare a prayer for a number of parishes in the Diocese which are distinctly non-Diocesan in nature: St Mary's, Waverley; St Johns, Balmain; All Saints, Hunter's Hill, and St. Luke's, Enmore. All vacant (or soon to be), all having to find a suitable Rector.
St Mary's has already been told that the Diocese will not be willing to consider an import given that there are over 200 men in the Diocese who are waiting for preferment. The parish has accepted that its considerable Catholic tradition will change - they just hope that they won't have to endure what another parish went through - went from being a MOTR stole parish to a minister wearing a suit for worship.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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It will indeed be interesting to see what happens to those Parishes, I hadn't realised all of those were soon to be vacant. The refusal to consider those outside the Diocese is understandable on a number of fronts but in the long term it's a bad strategy for any church to be so insular and monotone.
God has it all in hand, prayers for the Parishioners particularly those seeking a place to worship/exercise their ministry that doesn't condemn them before they even walk in the door.
Do you know if St Mary's and St John's have right of nomination?
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Yes, Evangeline - as far as I know, all four do (St Mary's and St John's most certainly do)
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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What happened at St Marks was very unfortunate, to put it mildly but decently. AIUI, a major problem was that there was no nomination within time.
The nominators at the various churches you mention should look at other parishes in the diocese and learn the lessons.
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
What happened at St Marks was very unfortunate, to put it mildly but decently. AIUI, a major problem was that there was no nomination within time.
The nominators at the various churches you mention should look at other parishes in the diocese and learn the lessons.
Gee D, not 100% sure which St Mark's you are referring to here - if the one in the Western Suburbs near Parramatta, nominations were made but not accepted; if another one, have no information to add.
BUT I agree totally, that nominators of all non-Diocesan style parishes need to be on their toes and be prepared, and ready to asset and push their area bishops. +Robert has been very supportive of those in his area, I have been told.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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August 10 has been designated "Lamentation Sunday" in our diocese - would you like to put in an order?
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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No, I was referring to Sth Hurstville. I'm not sure what happened at Granville - no stories going around.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
August 10 has been designated "Lamentation Sunday" in our diocese - would you like to put in an order?
Sorry BL. I read this quickly and saw bit about putting in an order. It made me have another look in case I had read "lamington."
EL's post made me think of Granville but I also investigated the St Mark's where I grew up, at Kissing Point Road, not all that far from Parramatta. Not much there, it has changed little in practically every way apart from some shelter for the bridal cars as it's now known as a picturesque setting for weddings. Theology seems unchanged.
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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I don't think it's too long before Canberra and Goulburn will be refusing to look at anyone outside the Diocese; by which I mean the Sydney Diocese
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Thank you, Christchurch, for turning on a mild day for me. The Dean of Christchurch was laid to rest, tragically aged only 40, with wonderful sensitivity and glorious resurrection-promise.
May she Rest in Peace and Rise in Glory.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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When I read about Dean Patterson's death on FB, it was from friends in the Church of Ireland (hence my mistaken assumption that they were talking about Christ Church Cathedral, Dublin); I hadn't realised that she came from Northern Ireland and is going to be buried in Dromore, in Co. Down.
RIP.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Originally posted by Vulpior:
I don't think it's too long before Canberra and Goulburn will be refusing to look at anyone outside the Diocese; by which I mean the Sydney Diocese
Really?? How did that happen? With you ordaining women and all, not to mention that unfortunate legal business I thought the tone of Canberra Diocese was decidedly anti-Sydney?
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Given the pedigree of the new director of the National Theology College here, I think the door is quite open towards the evangelical end of the spectrum in this part of the world.
I expect it's all a lot of breast beating for little reason as the landscape of how people want to be church changes. There will be quaint little steepled places dotted about, happily providing "historical" liturgical services for like minded parishioners, and more and more contemporary enclaves of Christians doing church related stuff in weird and wonderful ways.
As long as it honours God, should we care so much? On my list of how important is this in the eternal scheme of things it doesn't even make it on to the bottom rung. Change happens.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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It is a good thing, indeed if the door remains open to all people honouring God and for communities to do church-related stuff in weird and wonderful ways. Long may it continue, I believe's it's the perceived or potential closing of the door to people who may deviate from the conservative, hierachical complementarian, evangelical approach favoured by Sydney that worries many.
The fewer "imports" there are the narrower the door becomes and the more self-reinforcing a particularly narrow definition of what it is to be a Christian becomes. In the long term I don't see that as something that strengthens the Kingdom, it's a bit like diminishing genetic diversity. Grow only one type of grape and if a blight comes, there will be no grapes at all, but f you have a variety, some will withstand whatever the particular blight is.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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I see a corresponding situation in our Presbyterian culture, in an instruction from a General Assembly not so long ago that parishes should not call a minister from overseas or from another denomination. I don't think it's a sinister move, but rather an invitation to 'use' our own exit students rather than have them trained with nowhere to go. And congregations will call whom they want to anyway. But some of the most inspiring clergy around here in Presbyterian/Methodist parishes have been Methodists or Baptists; one much-loved pastor was a Salvation Army man – two elders were ordained to administer communion in his case. There have been successful choices from overseas, too.
There's nothing like a bit of new inspiration...
(Isn't there an Anglican Dean who's an ordained Baptist minister?)
GG
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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I'm not worried about the traditional/modern spectrum, nor do I fear that we will become a mirror of Sydney with its complementarian views. But I do fear a push from on high to mould the diocese into a far more homogeneous style of church, which the bishop terms "open evangelical".
I think that could leave liberal and catholic places being far more enclaves that the parishioners feel they are defending, rather than simply one part of a broad spectrum.
I'm aware that leaders in those places try to discourage a siege mentality, but I'm not sure how successful they are. I suppose I'm a bit raw from a pointy encounter with the pointy hat, and won't be satisfied until there's change at the top.
But, as an Anglo-Papist school friend used to say, we'll go on worshipping God: you in your way, and me in his.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Happy Birthday to Rowen today - hope you haven't been blown away overnight by the fierce winds. We are getting a taste of the cold front today and those arctic winds are bitey. I wouldn't be surprised to hear its been snowing down your way.
Hopefully you'll get some time to celebrate in between being called to emergencies...
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Happy birthday, Rowen!
I'd better not tell you what the temperature was here today - it would just spoil your day.
Hope you've had a good one!
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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I think that could leave liberal and catholic places being far more enclaves that the parishioners feel they are defending, rather than simply one part of a broad spectrum.
I'm aware that leaders in those places try to discourage a siege mentality, but I'm not sure how successful they are.
Indeed, I've seen this happen too. The long-term effects can be a bit like those of chronic stress on an individual, sinister bias, depression, joylessness and isolation.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Folk, I am having a good birthday. Breakfast with friends. Cold.
Funeral in church. Cold. Cemetary. Bloody freezing. Drive to friends' farm for night. Cold.
Did I mention it is a tad chilly?
But I am happy!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Best wishes from us as well Rowen.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Yesterday it reached 21c here. That's the nor'west wind - always welcome in winter, but a bit much in summer. It's 8pm here and I have doors and windows open and it's not too chilly (overcooked some sausages and need to air the place out).
I have just found out that the general election is on September 20 - I knew it was coming up of course, but hadn't realised it was so soon. I aways vote - on the principle that if you don't vote you can't complain, but sometimes I feel more tempted by the slogan "Don't vote, it only encourages them."
Given that, as I understand it, voting is compulsory in Australia do you get more 'spoiled' votes as a kind of protest?
Huia
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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21 is only 70 here: surfing in San Diego last month, the second day it was that warm in the ocean and a wee bit warmer in the air: it was the first time since I were a lad that I remember not needing a full wetsuit!
Also, it was the first time I wore my wedding ring in the surf since I was young: It was an act of providence that I did not lose the real white gold one the first day. I looked down at my ring finger and it was still there! I usually wear only one ring, a silver and turquoise number which was less than 4% of the value of the real one my wife bought me! We have been married more than 36 years. I usually wear it to avoid surf bunnies who try to pick me up, thinking that just because I am old, I am wealthy. ( I am not! ) If they have the nerve to introduce themselves, I just tell them "Call me Vinnie" which is a normally unused corruption of my real name, without the pantomime KBE!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
Given that, as I understand it, voting is compulsory in Australia do you get more 'spoiled' votes as a kind of protest?
Huia
Not sure how he figures line up against the free world
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Originally posted by piglet:
Happy birthday, Rowen!
I echo young Piglet's remarks!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Actually Huia, the voting is not compulsory. What you do have to do is have your name marked off voting roll. What you do after that is up to you. Vote, go home, put blank paper in ballot box, draw all over your voting paper, thus making it informal. Whatever.
I believe it is a worthwhile thing to vote. I always have, bar two occasions. One was when I was at home with pneumonia. I explained I worked for myself and had no medical certificates to say I was ill, but gave name and address of my doctor. The other was the day after I moved here. The previous night I had dropped part of bed frame on my foot and broken three toes. There was no way of getting to any booth.. That one was never followed up at all.
Fine here is $50 as far as I know.
[ 01. August 2014, 10:07: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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That's horrible! At age 18 I was a Field Deputy Registrar for the County of Los Angeles: I had been voting 'declines to state' for several years but I then registered for one of the two major parties for marital harmony and to participate in primaries. I hope to go back to that!
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Yes. Happy Birthday Rowen.
The AEC states that voting is compulsory. I had assumed that intentionally making an informal vote is not legal, but the secret ballot meant it would not be possible to prove it.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
Yes. Happy Birthday Rowen.
The AEC states that voting is compulsory. I had assumed that intentionally making an informal vote is not legal, but the secret ballot meant it would not be possible to prove it.
I'm not a lawyer, I'm sure Orfeo will be along shortly.....but I'm almost certain that there is no compulsion to vote only to attend a polling station on voting day and certainly there is no illegality to deliberately casting an informal vote.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Ah, now I understand. When I read Zappa's link I was wondering what they meant by "informal votes"* - they're what we'd call "spoilt ballots".
I've never lived anywhere where you have to vote, but I'm of the "if you don't vote you can't complain" school of thought.
Which is of little consequence, as until we get Canadian citizenship (hopefully in a couple of years) we can't vote anyway ...
* I was imagining people sitting in a bar, saying, "What about Charlie for Prime Minister?"
"Yeah, he'll do!"
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Evangeline:
quote:
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
Yes. Happy Birthday Rowen.
The AEC states that voting is compulsory. I had assumed that intentionally making an informal vote is not legal, but the secret ballot meant it would not be possible to prove it.
I'm not a lawyer, I'm sure Orfeo will be along shortly.....but I'm almost certain that there is no compulsion to vote only to attend a polling station on voting day and certainly there is no illegality to deliberately casting an informal vote.
Correct
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Having worked in the local electoral office, I can say it is correct that all you have to do is mark your name off the roll, collect your ballot paper(s) and then put the paper(s) in the ballot boxes whether you have marked them or not. This way you will avoid a fine, and will have done your duty as a citizen in a country where voting is mandatory. The only way to get out of it is to have medical certificates or not be in the country. (A quick trip to Norfolk Island perhaps?)
The most frustrating thing for those who have to account for every ballot paper issued is discovering they've been ripped up and left in the booths, or put in the garbage with party fliers. So please at least put the papers in the allocated boxes.
The best thing about counting informal votes is that some of them are hilarious, and after a weary day I loved being told to doublecheck the 'donkey' pile. Where every candidate has been crossed out and replaced with superheroes, or vampire names, or swear words. Or someone has written in copperplate writing "As I have not been formally introduced to any of these people I am disinclined to endorse any of them, yours sincerely etc."
The worst ones are the ones covered in abusive diatribes.
The easiest way to create an informal vote (while looking like you are actually voting) is to put two number ones or two ticks or two crosses on the ballot. This shows no clear preference, so must be automatically discounted. And the absolute worst thing is having to unfold ballot papers that have been folded way too many times. If you must fold them, please only do it once. The poor casual staffers having to deal with the mountains of papers will be grateful.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
I see a corresponding situation in our Presbyterian culture, in an instruction from a General Assembly not so long ago that parishes should not call a minister from overseas or from another denomination. I don't think it's a sinister move, ...
(Isn't there an Anglican Dean who's an ordained Baptist minister?)
GG
Hi GG, yes Dean Steve from Sale in Victoria. We are meeting together at the moment at the Australian Dean's Conference in Griffith NSW. Thanks to all who gave me wonderful suggestions about things to do in Griffith (I am impressed with the town and its hospitality!). But it is a tad cold
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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INVITATION
The annual Feast of Title (i.e. Patronal Festival) of The Anglican Communities of Our Lady is on next Sunday, 10th August. A Solemn High Mass, with the choir of St. Alban's, Epping assisting, will commence at 2pm. We have an afternoon service in order to give people the opportunity of being at their own parish church in the morning.
The service is taking place at the Church of the Good Shepherd, 37 East Street, Granville. The Church is very conveniently located for both car (a large public carpark is 2 minutes walk away) and public transport, being only a 5 minute walk from Granville Railway Station. Following the service there will be a sparkling wine afternoon tea (along with tea and plunger coffee).
The Rt. Revd. John McIntyre had accepted our invitation to be the celebrant and preacher: rather than invite anyone else we have decided to stay 'in-house' this year - though the preacher is one of the best preachers I have ever heard in over 25 years of ministry.
If you can possibly come along and join in a wonderful time of worship and thanksgiving - since commencing in 2011 we have now grown to 5 communities, with a further 2 communities already planned for by the same time next year.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you Emli. I shall be driving to Canberra for a few days work, but Madame may very well drop down.
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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That would be great, GeeD - please ensure that if she comes that she makes herself known and that she (and any other Shippy family)will be given a very warm welcome - I'm deacon of the mass so won't be too hard to spot!
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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MM will be exerting himself mightily today in the musical underpinning of the centennial celebrations of The Church With The Pond. A little bit of Water Music perhaps?
As I am nursing TP through a serious bout of man 'flu, and feeling decidedly off colour myself, I am not attending. But I expect there were many trumpets and much beautiful songstering.
TP has Mozart's Requiem Mass on at full volume in the house at the moment, and I cannot help but feel this is rather appropriate too.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Just had another aftershock. Haven't felt one for months, but they will keep coming for years. It was probably around mag 3, which isn't very big , but everything rattled, including me.
for Christchurch
Huia
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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And for China, where they had a 6.1
Huia
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Yes, I remember reading - perhaps in one of your posts? - that every now and then there was an aftershock from a quake 40 years ago.Very nasty for you to get one of that strength after a period of quiet.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Huia and everyone else in Christchurch.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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((( )))
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
We are meeting together at the moment at the Australian Dean's Conference in Griffith NSW.
Deanly greetings from across the ditch ... we may be joining you next year
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
(Isn't there an Anglican Dean who's an ordained Baptist minister?)
GG
Hi GG, yes Dean Steve from Sale in Victoria....
Though GG may be thinking of the Dean of Wellington, Digby Wilkinson
[ 04. August 2014, 07:46: Message edited by: Zappa ]
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
(Isn't there an Anglican Dean who's an ordained Baptist minister?)
GG
Hi GG, yes Dean Steve from Sale in Victoria....
Though GG may be thinking of the Dean of Wellington, Digby Wilkinson
That's right – I thought it was someone closer to home.
GG
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
We are meeting together at the moment at the Australian Dean's Conference in Griffith NSW.
Deanly greetings from across the ditch ... we may be joining you next year
And hello to Zappa, from Sydney airport en route to home in Darwin and away from the cold. It would be great to see you next year - we are meeting in Adelaide, from the evening of Thu 30 July to the morning of Tue 4 Aug 2015.
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on
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Got back at the weekend from a holiday in the warmth of SE Qld. But in Canberra so far this week the temperatures have shown their usual wide day-night range. Yesterday , for example it was -6 overnight, which left a heavy frost. But (unlike my memories of winter in England!) the mountain air is clear, and the daytime is sunny, so quite pleasant after about 10am. Max temp was +13.
As usual for Canberra in winter it is quire pleasant (and cheerful) so long as you are in the sun and out of the wind. (Actually not usually much wind in winter; that comes more in spring-time).
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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It has been cold for where i am, down to 2-3 in the early morning. That's cold here, close to the river and not far from the harbour. Did once see it just over zero only a few streets from here, but that's some years ago.
Miss M is still struggling with this last big bout of chemo. Feels sick, has reactions to the steroids she is also on, is doped up with codeine based painkillers for the joint pain they give her.
Hopefully this will be over in about ten days and she will go onto a maintenance dose for a long time. Lots of continuing tests. She wants the central line gone by her birthday in late September. It has been there since January 2.
She went to school half a day last week. Hopefully this will pick up soon too.
[ 05. August 2014, 07:38: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Thanks so much for the update, Loth - is good to keep our congregation informed as to developments so as to focus all of our prayers!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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We are so appreciative of and thankful for all the prayers for her. So many places worldwide have her on prayer lists. Thank you.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
we are meeting in Adelaide, from the evening of Thu 30 July to the morning of Tue 4 Aug 2015.
Could be fun ... there's eight of us discussing whether we'll gatecrash or not ... leaning towards yes at the moment. Though I wish you'd picked somewhere warmer than Adelaide in August!
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
we are meeting in Adelaide, from the evening of Thu 30 July to the morning of Tue 4 Aug 2015.
Could be fun ... there's eight of us discussing whether we'll gatecrash or not ... leaning towards yes at the moment. Though I wish you'd picked somewhere warmer than Adelaide in August!
It'll probably be warmer than your new habitat!
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Originally posted by rexory:
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Originally posted by Zappa:
quote:
Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
we are meeting in Adelaide, from the evening of Thu 30 July to the morning of Tue 4 Aug 2015.
Could be fun ... there's eight of us discussing whether we'll gatecrash or not ... leaning towards yes at the moment. Though I wish you'd picked somewhere warmer than Adelaide in August!
It'll probably be warmer than your new habitat!
You could wait until the Australian Deans' Conference in 2016, which is scheduled for Townsville! I can drive to that, it is only 2,500 km to our nearest neighbouring Cathedral.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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What is the name for a collection of deans? A decantation? An installation?
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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A Disaster of Deans has a nice ring to it.
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on
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A distillation of deans?
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
A Disaster of Deans has a nice ring to it.
That depends very much on which ones you're talking about.
How about a deviation?
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Given how many of them appreciate a good celebration I would think a Degastation of Deans might be more appropriate. Not sure if that spelling is correct, but you know what I mean...
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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A denouement of deans might end it.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Humph. DD, I think we need to take up arms against these aspidistrae (Fred Dagg-ese for aspersions) cast at our good character!
Hmmm: Current Temp Adelaide: 15° Current Temperature at the Leading Edge? 4°. You have a point, Rexory (not greatly tempered by the fact that Adelaide is 2 1/2 hours behind us: ours was only 6° even then).
Townsville sounds great!
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on
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FD suggests a duodenum of deans
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Originally posted by Clarence:
FD suggests a duodenum of deans
Surely that's only two deans - DD & Zappa?
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on
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You mean there are more?
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you one and all for your suggestions. My recollection is that FD's dislike was archdeacons, not deans, but duodenum is good. If we take BL's dégustation a step or 2 along, it could become a disgust of deans (the feeling inspired by the prices of the dégustation menus). But all good, and no aspersions on anyone's character.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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At the Deans' Conference, a Decorum of Deans was suggested.
But we finally settled on a Decanter of Deans.
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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We recently said farewell to our (in)famous Dean.
Just after he took us on retreat.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
At the Deans' Conference, a Decorum of Deans was suggested.
But we finally settled on a Decanter of Deans.
Not far from my decantation, and certainly with the same thoughts in mind. I added the consequences of too much recurse to the decanter.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Originally posted by rexory:
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Originally posted by Clarence:
FD suggests a duodenum of deans
Surely that's only two deans - DD & Zappa?
I think most people of the opinion that one Dean in a Diocese is more than enough. Now, if we could only apply that to Bishops ...
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
... one Dean in a Diocese is more than enough. Now, if we could only apply that to Bishops ...
Belfast Cathedral, where we were before we came here, has two Bishops: it's not a Diocesan cathedral, but more a civic one. When Belfast was given city status in the early 1900s they decided they ought to have a cathedral, so they built one.
Half of the city is in the Diocese of Connor and half in the Diocese of Down and Dromore, so there is a cathedra for each bishop, Connor taking precedence because the cathedral is in that diocese.
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
At the Deans' Conference, a Decorum of Deans was suggested.
But we finally settled on a Decanter of Deans.
Not far from my decantation, and certainly with the same thoughts in mind. I added the consequences of too much recurse to the decanter.
I'm sure Zappa would approve, of the decanting at least
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Are they seated together, like William and Mary?
Madame came with me to a wintry Canberra Emli, so we both missed your Feast of Title - hope all went well. We are comfortably ensconced in a serviced apartment, and about to head over the road for yet another delicious dinner.
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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In a Melbourne hotel.... Tomorrow I begin a week in a much warmer part of the nation- Brisbane. Family baptisms, much love and laughter. Not long, but long enough to be happy therein.
And warm.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Are they seated together, like William and Mary?
One on either side of the Chancel - the Connor one on the Decani side where you'd expect the cathedra to be, and the Down and Dromore one facing it on the Cantoris side. IIRC the Connor one is slightly more ornate.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Yesterday, in a dry 30 degree heat in Arnhem Land at the ordination of an Aboriginal man to the Diaconate. Today, after a six hour drive back to Darwin and two flights south, overcast and cold in Melbourne, for the inauguration of the new Primate. Different views of both Church and Australia.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Yes, they're making a monkey out of our Archbishop!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Dinner date with Justin Welby tomorrow night. Someone's gotta do it.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Well Zappa, how did the date go? Did he ask you in for a coffee/nightcap after dinner? And did he wear a purple shirt?
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Well Zappa, how did the date go? Did he ask you in for a coffee/nightcap after dinner? And did he wear a purple shirt?
And did he wear shoes?
GG
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Well Zappa, how did the date go? Did he ask you in for a coffee/nightcap after dinner? And did he wear a purple shirt?
++++Justin did good - I think it was him in the distance - and prought a fine sermon (with a strangely nasal delivery). He wore a black stock, which surprised me - rochet and chimere of course for the liturgy. The liturgy was a bit of a showcase - how many middle-aged ordained women can you squeeze into key roles in a single evensong? - all the music and prayers were of A/NZ or Pacific origin though I think the bible readings came from books of Hebrew and Greek origin. Maybe. There was barely a young person to be seen, though a few gathered around a different Justin.
The other Justin, +Justin Wellington, couldn't be arsed joining his brother and sister bishops so sat in scruffy hoody, purple short (collar done up, for once) and jandals (thongs) in the congregation. Later he was asked to say grace and he made a quick preamble about how he couldn't be arsed joining his brother and sister bishops ... . I am not a fan. He then prayed a rambling grace which eventually mentioned the food.
The food was great and I met a few nice people. The best part was the drive there and back and two days out of the office. Welby was good though (just wish it had been Williams).
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Red face – got my Justins mixed up. Comes of living in a hole at the ends of the earth.
GG
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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They were both there, though, so no mix up at all!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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You're not alone in your wish about Williams. The right man at the right time, but so many who weren't could not see that.
Any idea why he wore a black stock? ++ Sydney wears purple. And as for +Wellington I wonder how many from synod now have bumper stickers: Don't blame me, I voted for X.
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Thanks to everyone who wished us well for our 2014 Feast of Title - it went splendidly: even the sun came out of hiding at the right time. The church was considered 'full' in that it was at about 80% capacity. At times the incense shrouded the church in a veil of heavenly smoke. The sermon was uplifting, challenging all to be part of a community of care and nurture, without being obsessed by the corporate nature of business which seems to dominate so many parish council meetings.
The singing by St. Alban's choir and organist Chris Wagstaff was uplifting ('Magnificat' by Turle, 'Ave Verum Corpus' by Mozart, and 'Deck my soul with gladness' for the sermon meditation); harpist John Coombs soulful rendition of 'Hail Mary' during the Angelus and other pieces before and during the service was just sublime.
Then to cap it all off - a superb hot and cold buffet: homemade sausage rolls; scones with real cream (as in not dairy whip); smoked salmon puffs; arancini; cupcakes; sandwiches, etc. - all served with liberal does of bubbly, plunger coffee and tea.
I'd be only too happy to send a copy of the liturgy to anyone interested.
Please put a note in your diaries of the 16th August 2015 which will be our next FoT: more details as they come to hand. Maybe someone would like to do a Mystery Worshipper report on it?
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
I wonder how many from synod now have bumper stickers: Don't blame me, I voted for X.
... though not my nonagenarian mother. She remains convinced that he walks on water. Though she has no idea what he is doing as bishop
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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And ++ Rowan was a good and saintly man as well. Many here miss him as well.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Miss M and her big sister are here for the weekend. She is now on a maintenance dose which is a bit messy as it involves various medications at various times and frequencies. However, she feels a lot better than with the last big chemo session.
She burst through my door last night so excited the words tumbled out all over the place. She had been at school all day. That's the third time this year and the first full day. She still looks somewhat like Michelin Man from the last lot of steroids but not as badly and the moonfaced look is subsiding too.
I was asked to say grace at dinner time so I added a bit of thankfulness for her improvement and promptly burst into tears at the table.
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I don't think anyone would blame you for that, Loth - delighted to hear Miss M's doing so well, and long may it continue!
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Back in Darwin after the inauguration of our new Primate, and straight in to the Darwin Festival. We are hosting a talk tonight by Dr Christine Fejo-King, who is a Larrakia woman and elder, speaking about the Intervention. Should be interesting. Then on Sunday night at the Botanic Gardens Amphitheatre, under tropical skies the life and music of Gurrumul.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Loth - Grandmothers are allowed to do that. So glad she is doing well.
Huia
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you for sharing that news with us Lothlorien. An as Huia says, you're allowed a little cry or 2, because it's very good news indeed (I know that there will be hard days ahead).
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Well justified tears, Loth. Cathedral prayers continue, but I'll feed the signs of progress back to my praying confreres and souers.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
Back in Darwin after the inauguration of our new Primate, and straight in to the Darwin Festival. We are hosting a talk tonight by Dr Christine Fejo-King, who is a Larrakia woman and elder, speaking about the Intervention. Should be interesting. Then on Sunday night at the Botanic Gardens Amphitheatre, under tropical skies the life and music of Gurrumul.
Sorry, skipped over this. Can someone give me some background or a link about the Intervention please?
Iggerant Kiwi
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
Can someone give me some background or a link about the Intervention please?
Iggerant Kiwi
Technically the "Northern Territory National Emergency Response" This is an account of the complex story
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Thanks for the link to the "Intervention" Zappa. Yes, complex, messy and controversial.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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The statistics and stories that prompted the intervention were shocking, particularly in relation to child abuse. To anyone's knowledge, has there been any progress in this regard since the stats were gathered, either as a result of the intervention or subsequent polcies/initiatives.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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The Grandad is scheduled for surgery on Thursday, for a rather scary operation to put a mesh under the skin right across the belly where there is currently a hernia the size of a football. 6-8 hours in theatre and then ten days at least in hospital (that is if nothing happens to postpone the procedure) followed no doubt by fairly lengthy recuperation, and all prayers are welcomed. I'm a bit nervous myself!
GG
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Prayers from us to you and the Granddad GG. Does all this happen closer to home than the last admission? Is it common in NZ for people to have an operation and then go to a rehab hospital? This seems now to be the usual course here and takes a lot of burden from the one at home.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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And GG:
There was an old man with a hernia
Who said to his doctor:"Goldernia,
When fixing my middle
Please do not fiddle
With matters that do not concern ya."
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Zappa, thanks for the link which I'll read when I'm next in the library. My dial-up connection is being really irritating today.
GG -Prayers for the Grandad, and of course for you. That sounds major. And if it's at Wellington Hospital - prayers for the parking too.
Huia
[ 18. August 2014, 11:56: Message edited by: Huia ]
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Originally posted by Evangeline:
The statistics and stories that prompted the intervention were shocking, particularly in relation to child abuse. To anyone's knowledge, has there been any progress in this regard since the stats were gathered, either as a result of the intervention or subsequent polcies/initiatives.
"Lies, damned lies and statistics." Nothing that I aware off, though a couple of studies are being done at present. However, if someone has a link to completed studies showing the effects of the Intervention, it would be very useful.
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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GG,
My wife had to have a similar operation to repair a hernia arising from emergency appendectomy. The recuperation takes some time as the mesh is assimilated into the body, but when complete she has found relief from pain and discomfort.
She is however a couple of decades younger than the Granddad, so our prayers are with him in the hope that similar success and relief can be achieved.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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{{GG and Grandad}}
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Prayers for you both, GG.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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From here, too
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Prayers from us to you and the Granddad GG. Does all this happen closer to home than the last admission? Is it common in NZ for people to have an operation and then go to a rehab hospital? This seems now to be the usual course here and takes a lot of burden from the one at home.
Yes, in our Wellington hospital, just a year from the last emergency op in Waikato Hospital. Everyone speaks very highly of the surgeon (who specialises in breasts and hernias???) I don't know how usual the rehab system is, though it seems to work best for joint surgery and stroke.
And Huia, if you park at the crack of dawn, as instructed for surgery, the parking is free; if the Grandad's to be in for some time (they told us six days when they rang today but we expect longer) I'll ask for a chitty that gives me a 50% discount for parking. It's okay about the underground park with all those shock absorbers, it's probably the safest place to be in an earthquake.
Those prayers are all appreciated.
GG
[ 19. August 2014, 04:38: Message edited by: Galloping Granny ]
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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If its the surgeon I think it is (and with that odd combination of specialties it seems likely) the Granddad is in excellent hands. Will be thinking of you.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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the Granddad
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:
If its the surgeon I think it is (and with that odd combination of specialties it seems likely) the Granddad is in excellent hands. Will be thinking of you.
Can we say that in both he does battles with bulges? It does cast new light on the old nip and tuck. (Sorry GG, I know that this is really very serious stuff, and you both have our prayers and thoughts. I can just imagine what's going through both of your minds.)
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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for the Granddad.
All Trains will be on the hunt for a new rector. Well, after consultation, parish profile, etc.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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cathedral prayers were murmured for the granddad, and for Miss M this morning as all (well most, technically) mornings.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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GG Prayers for you and the GD today for comfort and support through the operation and recovery; and for the surgeon and his team that they may have skill, judgment and wisdom.
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Amen to that, and again we say, Amen!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Emendator Liturgia:
Amen to that, and again we say, Amen!
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Well, after all these weeks of anxiety, we went in to Admissions at 7 am and had a chat from the Famous Surgeon about the complexity and possible risks of the operation.. at 2 pm the assistant phoned to say all had gone very well and the Grandad was in ICU and would be coming round within a couple of hours – and there he was, giving cheek to the nurses through his oxygen mask. What could be more reassuring? I suppose now that all his innards have been tucked back inside we'll have to go shopping for new clothes.
Life begins again!
And thanks for all those prayers, which meant a lot to both of us.
GG
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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GG, that's marvellous news. We've been thinking of you both all day. I told Madame when I got home a few minutes ago, and she had a little cry of mixed joy and (it drawing near to her father's anniversary) of sadness. Prayers now for a good recovery.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Glad to hear all went so well GG!
for MIss M
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Lovely news and continuing prayer for all, GG.
Interesting you comment about giving cheek. My dad was, as my sister said, 'a truly gentle man.' After an anaesthetic he would be either outrageously flirtatious with nurses or extremely quarrelsome. He was utterly mortified if anyone mentioned either behaviour after he had recovered.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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1993 and just pre-op the guy pumping me full of whatever they give you just before they tell you to count to ten was absolutely gorgeous - because of the circumstances I can't say for sure that I told him he was but I rather suspect that I did.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Great news, GG - may the Grandad's recovery be swift and complete!
WW, I shouldn't worry - he was probably used to people talking gibberish while under the influence. I remember once coming round after a general anaesthetic for a tooth extraction talking complete bollocks and asking where Bert was. The only Bert I knew was my then boss - why on earth would I have been asking for him?
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Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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GG - so glad to hear the good news, continued prayers for his recovery.
Huia
Posted by bib (# 13074) on
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Thanks to God for GG's successful surgery.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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The Grandad's still in ICU and still chirpy but we can see there will still be a while before it's okay to send him home after all that clever chopping and reorganising of tissue. Not too long, we hope, but all systems have to be working well, and he still has the epidural in place as well as various other painkillers.
We have a great photo of him looking great and surrounded by technology though.
GG
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Best wishes to you both.
[ 23. August 2014, 08:39: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
...We have a great photo of him looking great and surrounded by technology though.
GG
Including the machine that goes beep?
Grandad, get well soon.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Many thanks Huia for such a positive and encouraging update. Prayers continuing.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
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Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
...We have a great photo of him looking great and surrounded by technology though.
GG
Including the machine that goes beep?
Grandad, get well soon.
Oh yes, with limited lung volume and a degree of apnoea, and the lungs may have a bit less room with the gut back where it should be, every time he forgets to breathe properly the oxygen level drops below 89 and we have loud beeps and a flashing yellow light.
GG
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Prayers continuing.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Of course, that should have been thanks to GG rather than Huia Wrong island and all, I don't know how that happened except the early hour.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I glad you sorted that Gee D - I was feeling a bit confused.
Week 2 of the bathroom renovation starts tomorrow. So far there have been about 9 tradies involved. The electrician had a couple of apprentices so that upped the numbers. He was careful to explain the safety rules behind why they were moving the light and when I said "Oh good, that will make reading in the bath easier" the young lads looked at me as though I had mentioned some kinky behaviour they had never come across before .
I'm not sure how long this is going to take (I have yet to meet the vinyl layer or the tiler) but it will be amazing when it's finished.
(someone, unhelpfully, told me that their daughter's bathroom work had dragged on for over 6 months, but that involved earthquake damage, so I am discounting it)
Huia
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
I glad you sorted that Gee D - I was feeling a bit confused.
Week 2 of the bathroom renovation starts tomorrow. So far there have been about 9 tradies involved. The electrician had a couple of apprentices so that upped the numbers. He was careful to explain the safety rules behind why they were moving the light and when I said "Oh good, that will make reading in the bath easier" the young lads looked at me as though I had mentioned some kinky behaviour they had never come across before .
I'm not sure how long this is going to take (I have yet to meet the vinyl layer or the tiler) but it will be amazing when it's finished.
(someone, unhelpfully, told me that their daughter's bathroom work had dragged on for over 6 months, but that involved earthquake damage, so I am discounting it)
Huia
Maybe you need for the bathroom work(ers).
GG
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Huia, you obviously need a Kinky is Kool badge!
I hope it all gets sorted soon.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Of course, that should have been thanks to GG rather than Huia Wrong island and all, I don't know how that happened except the early hour.
No worries, mate (I think that's the Australian expression).
GG
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Usually said today with an Italian accent though.
How's the Granddad - keeping the nurses on their toes?
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Usually said today with an Italian accent though.
How's the Granddad - keeping the nurses on their toes?
Shades of They're a Weird Mob .
I second concerns for the Granddad and also for you. Hard work being on the sidelines watching,
[ 26. August 2014, 23:38: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Usually said today with an Italian accent though.
How's the Granddad - keeping the nurses on their toes?
Not a very happy camper this morning – they'd taken out the epidural and drain, the physio was giving him tough breathing exercises, he was feeling tired, and I could only stay briefly as i'd found an appointment of mine was at 11 am and the petrol gauge light was on.
I'll do my best to cheer him up this afternoon.
GG
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Quite a few hard days ahead, as well as many good. Even just sitting quietly knitting or whatever you'd do at home when it's too bad to go outside will be comforting for him.
On another tack, my father was 96 in March, and has been in the semi-supported living section in a retirement village for quite a while. He's not too flash at the moment either, with whatever flu-type bug is going around. He's probably where you catch that sort of thing.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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for Grandad and Pater Gee D.
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Dofo'th flaen di, O Arglwydd santaidd,
O'r cysgodion i'th olau euraidd;
Gwaed y groes ddaw a mi i'r goleuni,
Chwilia fia glanha fi o'm brynti
Grist, clyw fy nghri, goleau fi.
Yes folks, it's "Shine, Jesus, Shine" in Welsh. I attend the Chapel that I go to, not the Chapel I don't, in the city of the south. We had a Gymanfa Ganu (pronounced Gamava ganee) (Songs of Praise) on Sunday. It was good!
[ 27. August 2014, 07:55: Message edited by: James the Confident ]
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you Piglet. He'll be right in a while, just that recovery from even the bug that everyones getting takes longer at his age.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by James the Confident:
... I attend the Chapel that I go to, not the Chapel I don't ...
Like the Scottish Wee Free bloke who, if he were shipwrecked on a desert island, would build two churches - the one that he goes to and the one that he doesn't?
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Gee D, your Dad will recover, but I'm not sure about JtC!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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My phone just popped up a reminder that it is FD's birthday today. I have no idea now if that is correct or not.
Clarence, if you see this, please pass on birthday wishes to him. If reminder is wrong, say hello anyhow.
[ 28. August 2014, 01:52: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by James the Confident (# 9678) on
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Originally posted by piglet:
quote:
Originally posted by James the Confident:
... I attend the Chapel that I go to, not the Chapel I don't ...
Like the Scottish Wee Free bloke who, if he were shipwrecked on a desert island, would build two churches - the one that he goes to and the one that he doesn't?
Ah, the joke must be a generic one that changes nationality according to the audience.I had always heard it as the Welsh Chapel man. Whatever, it is still a good joke.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
Gee D, your Dad will recover, but I'm not sure about JtC!
quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
Gee D, your Dad will recover, but I'm not sure about JtC!
If he's singing in Welsh, he must be overdue for his long service leave.
An easier day to end what has been a difficult week.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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The local council has announced the sale of a large parcel of land a block from where I grew up. One thousand apartments are to be built there.
Down my end there were swings, slippery dip and a climbing frame and we would be sent up there on a Saturday morning. No soft landing under any equipment and no supervision either. I had tennis lessons there at two fairly decrepit courts. It was not attractive at all, fairly dry and few trees. My school endeavoured to rectify that by marching down on Wattle Day every year to plant some more. With no attention and rabbits around they did not last long.
There was also a concrete cricket pitch, used irregularly.
A mini golf centre has done well on one corner. That was built in 1969.
Just as well I have memories.
Sale price to council? 130 million dollars. They have a big profit on it as it received almost no attention over the years.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Fascinating morning at Church. I celebrated and preached, a traditional Anglo-Catholic communion - along with the Watoto Children's Choir from Uganda, with dancing and arm waving and other sights usually unseen among the Frozen Chosen of Anglicanism. It was not only the Choir dancing and singing, but also my congregation. One of those amazing moments.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
Fascinating morning at Church. I celebrated and preached, a traditional Anglo-Catholic communion - along with the Watoto Children's Choir from Uganda, with dancing and arm waving and other sights usually unseen among the Frozen Chosen of Anglicanism. It was not only the Choir dancing and singing, but also my congregation. One of those amazing moments.
We recently watched a very moving documentary about students at a school in a refugee camp in northern Uganda who competed in a national music and dance festival. They did well, amazing competitors from the rest of the country, but two of them revealed to the camera harrowing experiences at the hands of rebels from the Lord's Resistance Army.
GG
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Led an ecumenical devotional service this morning. In the Anglican calendar we are remembering the Martyrs of New Guinea, one of whom (a nurse from Canberra Hospital), has a stained glass window dedicated to her in the oldest Anglican church in the National Capitol.
But it prompted me to look up how many martyrs there were across all Christian denominations and of the 400, about half were catholic, 2 dozen Lutheran and a dozen C of E. We read the bracing speech of the Rt Rev Phillip Strong to those facing invasion, and it did make me wonder if such a speech would ever be likely to be spoken out these days. Somehow, I doubt it very much, but it did all in the nursing home a power of good to hear such a wonderful exhortation to stay firmly fixed on Christ, come what may.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you, Banner Lady for taking that service. An acquaintance of my father and his brothers was one of those martyred this day 72 years ago. My father is now the only survivor of that group of friends, and it's a hard day for him. There is a chapel dedicated to them in an Anglican Church not all that far - about 20 minutes drive - from here.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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The Grandad came home yesterday and is making great progress. Doesn't being back in one's own home have a powerful healing effect! Our thanks for all who supported us in prayer.
GG
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Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Great news GG - but I hope you're getting plenty of support also.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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YaY for the Grandad being home. Hospitals are Ok if you have to be there, but nothing matches sleeping in your own bed.
I'm just trying to calm myself down. I was sitting at my computer listening to the news (loudly because I didn't have my hearing aids in)and I looked up and there was a strange young man in my kitchen with a can of beer in his hand. I screamed and he asked if this was a neighbouring street. Apparently I had left the door open and "I did knock." I calmly escorted him to the door giving directions to the street he had mentioned, then fell apart.
I have now locked all four doors and shut all the windows except the one Georgie uses which can only be opened a little way. Bloody plumbers have disconnected the taps, so I can't have a bubble bath, which would be my chosen way of dealing with it, so I'm taking a happy pills and going to bed with a book.
Actually the day had been so bad I shouldn't have got up to start with. Not sure I'll bother until after lunch tomorrow.
Bugger, the painter just rang and he will be here at 9.30 am - I might just go to Willowbank (local wildlfe centre) and visit the kiwi and pukeko instead - if I'm really lucky I might get to see the baby Asian Otter .
Huia
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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What a horrible experience, Huia!
Deep breaths and count to three - or three million!
Well done for keeping your calm at least a little bit though perhaps a loud scream wouldn't have been inappropriate - you could always do that now into a pillow just to get it out.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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That was truly horrible for you Huia. Do you think you should notify the police?
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Sadly, a common phenomena. One of the worse things in my life is dealing with the mentally ill (which I suspect this young man may have been). Every other day someone comes to the Cathedral or into the office who is simply not rational. Often they are unaware of the alarm they give to others through their erratic or threatening behaviour.
And worse again, there is bugger all you can do, apart from give them some food and send them on their way, and if they are threatening, calling the police.
Huia
for the mentally ill
for all those trying to make sense of the mentally ill
Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on
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A quick question from a total newbie to this thread (obviously, not a newbie to the Ship!). Since where I'm now living is closer to the Pacific than any other sea or ocean ... is this the right thread? Or, does being the wrong side of the equator count me out as not sufficiently Antipodean?
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Gee, if that were the case, Wodders wouldn't have any place to post at all!
You are in a happy state. Still Scottish and still temporarily a UK citizen. Pacifica is your closest geographically. And you can still post on English and Scottish threads.
Lucky you.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Glad you're OK Huia, that would have given me the screaming heebies.
And I don't think he would have had to be mentally ill. We've just had to put a trespass order on a group of people from the road behind us using our place as a right-of-way to get to the bus stop. We've never met them before, as there's no natural access - they have to jump the fence (and presumably go through someone else's property to do so).
If they'd asked first, we would have said yes, but I got a hell of a fright when I was hanging out the washing and was accosted. When I asked what they thought they were doing, they told me they'd been walking through our place for the last 3 years without any problems. They got quite shirty with me when I said I wanted them to stop, so I involved the police.
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
A quick question from a total newbie to this thread (obviously, not a newbie to the Ship!). Since where I'm now living is closer to the Pacific than any other sea or ocean ... is this the right thread? Or, does being the wrong side of the equator count me out as not sufficiently Antipodean?
piglet, who lives in Canada, routinely posts on the British thread.
Moo
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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BL, re martyrs, are you just referring to martyrs in the CofE or across the communion? Taking into account Bishop Patteson and the seven Melanesian Brothers, that province has eight alone, then the Martyrs of New Guinea take that total to nineteen in our region alone.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
BL, re martyrs, are you just referring to martyrs in the CofE or across the communion? Taking into account Bishop Patteson and the seven Melanesian Brothers, that province has eight alone, then the Martyrs of New Guinea take that total to nineteen in our region alone.
And extending that forward, there was the Oz missionary and his 2 young sons burnt to death by Hindu extremists as they slept in their camper van.
I have seen figures that suggest that there were about 20,000 Christians martyred in the Roman Empire over the 280 or so years before Constantine's conversion. I'm not downplaying the great example they are, but that number is but a small proportion of those martyred in the twentieth century.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Specifically the C of E martyrs 1942 in PNG - my point being that actually there were many Christians from many denominations who were killed for staying in PNG during WW2.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Oh what an horrific experience Huia, glad it all turned out ok but I would be an absolute nervous wreck if a strange guy turned up in my kitchen. Defintely take some time to chill out & recover after that.
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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Thanks BL, on re-reading your original post that becomes clearer.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
extending that forward, there was the Oz missionary and his 2 young sons burnt to death by Hindu extremists as they slept in their camper van.
The Staines family - I mention them in my book - and now James Foley, to whom I think I would extend martyrdom as he saw his journalist fights for truth as an extension of his catholic faith ...
Posted by Evensong (# 14696) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
A quick question from a total newbie to this thread (obviously, not a newbie to the Ship!). Since where I'm now living is closer to the Pacific than any other sea or ocean ... is this the right thread? Or, does being the wrong side of the equator count me out as not sufficiently Antipodean?
We could just count you as from the wrong side of the tracks.
Hope you're settling in well to your new place! Are you in China?
Posted by Marama (# 330) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Banner Lady:
Specifically the C of E martyrs 1942 in PNG - my point being that actually there were many Christians from many denominations who were killed for staying in PNG during WW2.
Indeed. There were also those missionaries from Rabaul who were made POWs, boarded the 'Montevideo Maru' and were then torpedoed and all killed. That group included Methodist missionaries and I think some Catholics. Details in Margaret Reeson's "Whereabouts Unknown'- which I have lent to our minister and so cannot check right now.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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My recollection is that the missionaries were Methodists. You'd know the details better than I, but my understanding is that PNG was de facto divided into Anglican, RC and Methodist areas, with New Britain and the neighbouring areas of the main island being Methodist. Just as we think of Bp Patteson as being a martyr, although his murderers were mistaken as to his purpose (and of course, he did receive his 5 wounds) it would be correct to think of these missionaries and their families as being martyrs also.
Posted by gustava (# 15593) on
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You're in Japan aren't you Alan? Which part?
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on
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I think if you can read the from box at the bottom of his post it will tell you. Unfortunately, my (non-existent) Japanese is not up to it.
Jengie
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
I think if you can read the from box at the bottom of his post it will tell you. Unfortunately, my (non-existent) Japanese is not up to it.
Jengie
Google Translate is, though.
Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on
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Totally different point but a friend has posted this magazine on Facebook and I think some here may appreciate it.
This is one of those small world experiences. I am realising that not only did she have a URC connection but I may well have known a fellow school mate of hers. Guess what that, friend is a Church of Ireland cleric.
Jengie
[ 07. September 2014, 15:21: Message edited by: Jengie Jon ]
Posted by gustava (# 15593) on
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quote:
quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
I think if you can read the from box at the bottom of his post it will tell you. Unfortunately, my (non-existent) Japanese is not up to it.
....
Google Translate is, though.
You're both right - Fukushima. I was in Fukui for a bit but never made to Fukushima.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Miss 12, Miss M's older sister broke both arms a few months ago within a week. She has now fallen at school. X-rays can't yet tell if patella is broken or ligament has been ripped from the back of the patella. She is on crutches with a brace waiting for swelling to go down.
Their mother had to juggle one in oncology clinic, the other in ER and x-ray etc.
[ 08. September 2014, 07:42: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on
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The "From" field isn't really big enough to do justice to kanji. But, yes that over dense collections of lines is "Fukushima". I suppose I should be thankful this antique software allows me to use it at all!
Alan-sensei
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Dear Lord, Loth - I can only imagine the stress levels involved for you all. May this too pass. And please may there be unexpected graces in the passing.
My youngest grandchild is 4 months old and is experiencing her fourth cold, and that is enough to make me sad for her and her mum. No parent ever wants to see their children or children's children suffering.
On the plus side, I spent the weekend helping to clean out B1's little country house ready to sell. B4 got the keys to her new duplex yesterday. So will be moving B4's goods and chattels out of our house today, ready to store the rest of B1's! (groan)
As it looks like B1 will be moving out of her asbestos affected digs in the near future, and B3 will be moving from Victoria back to this city in 2 months time, I imagine things are going to get worse before they get better in terms of us being the transit hub.
BL. A passing mother.
[ 08. September 2014, 20:51: Message edited by: Banner Lady ]
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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I feel your pain BL. Although we no longer have in transit children, we do have young relatives as occasional guests.
However, we are drowning in the possessions of others. All of our kids have left something behind as they scattered to all points of the compass, and we are now attempting to clear out and dispose of my late mother-in-law's house. Our downstairs rumpus room and garage bear a strong resemblance to the set of Steptoe and Son, with narrow passageways through piles of Stuff[tm].
Now the weather is warming up, I'm hoping Mrs BA will summon up the courage to assault the task, as she has to make the decisions. I don't dare interfere!
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Moo:
... piglet, who lives in Canada, routinely posts on the British thread.
I'm a Scot-in-exile, and post on the Scottish, British and Canadian threads, and if I can think of anything worth saying when I'm reading as a host I'll post on this one and the American one too.
Loth, sorry to hear about Miss 12 - she's not having the best of luck, is she?
for her, and continuing for Miss M.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Loth and family
Had a day in Canberra yesterday, looks like more trips down there doing a consulting gig.
Family life, as with others, is chaotic. Active/disorganized teenagers and 2 serious ill relies is taking its toll on Mrs C in particular, esp with prospect of a few weeks of full time work for me, much of it in Canberra.
Middle is going to the dr tomorrow having self-diagnosed with OCD, while Biggest will hopefully scrape through his 8 th grade piano exam earlier in the day.
mr curly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thanks, Mr C. She's tired from manoeuvring crutches.
Hope the day goes well for your sons with good outcomes for both.
Been there and done that with ill family. It's very wearing. Take help when offered and try to get some time apart every day, especially your wife.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Not an easy time Mr Curly, and you have our thoughts and prayers.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Gee D:
Not an easy time Mr Curly, and you have our thoughts and prayers.
Thanks all. Will not be going to Canberra tomorrow/Friday as planned, but will work remotely for client while my co-worker goes down. Just being around at home will help (Middle and me).
Had a catch up this afternoon with the guy at Wesley who sponsored our Easter project, and as we prayed the necessity to stay home came through as an answer to that prayer loud and clear.
mr curly
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Made a quick visit to Christchurch last night to catch the Bard. He was superlative. But I expected that (and expected, too, the media whinges from people who went expected him to be Michael Jackson or John Denver )
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Good to hear and Christchurch put on a lovely day too. Not up to your preferred temperatures I know, but the closest we've had since last summer.
I would like to have been there, but don't cope well with crowds. I'll just have to buy the wonderful sound system I was looking at yesterday.
Huia
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on
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Spotted an echidna today enjoying his lunch on top of an ant-heap in a nature reserve on the edge of Canberra suburbia (the Pinnacle for those who know Canberra). First I'd seen in the wild in years.
(Echidnas are spiny ant-eaters for those who don't know.)
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
Spotted an echidna today
We had one in our garden at Killara which used to come out on hot days and poodle around in a drunken gait around the place.
We also had bandicoots and there is a colony of them over the line from where we were.
Don't mention the noisy possums!
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Yay - the Regional have been swamped with submissions regarding their desire to close a local bus route. Said bus is one that goes over to the Port and the local Port workers have made their displeasure known (this is the one I catch to the branch library so I was not looking forward to it being withdrawn).
Also the signs of rebuilding are more obvious.
On the other hand, I am so fed up with the election (next Saturady) I want to make a badge that says, Don't vote, it only encourages them
When I rule the world they will all be up against the wall
Huia - dictator-in-waiting
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Somebody I know on Facebook, might even have been a shipmate, put a cartoon up the other day where a little boy says to his father:
- Dad, I've decided I want to have a life of crime.
Father replies:
- Government or Private Sector?
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Good to hear and Christchurch put on a lovely day too. Not up to your preferred temperatures I know, but the closest we've had since last summer.
Well in fact the Wednesday when I flew down was ambivalent - after 55 minutes circling the Nearby Peninsular waiting for fog to clear the pilot gave up on minimum fuel and headed (ridge-hopping) for a sunny provincial city further up the island. I sat there for six hours ... and made it to the concert with not a lot of time to spare and blood pressure somewhere near Vesuvius.
But the morning I flew out was a stunner. Maybe I'll move south one day!
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Yeah, that sea mist is a killer sometimes. When my older brother and I were brought here as kids Mum took us to the beach. When the mist rolled in we ran in different directions, with poor Mum trying to work out where to go first..
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
On the other hand, I am so fed up with the election (next Saturady) I want to make a badge that says, Don't vote, it only encourages them
When I rule the world they will all be up against the wall
Me fed up too. I scored a letter to the DomPost yesterday complaining that politicians aren't mentioning climate change as if to say "it isn't really here yet and when it does happen we'll cope with it". Duh.
So who's representing New Zealand on 23 September, at the United Nations summit on climate change?
GG
Posted by Marama (# 330) on
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We were in NZ during the last election - and thought it was conducted in an exemplary manner; all crammed into 3 weeks after the world cup, then it was over. Very envious. But it sounds as though this one has dragged on in the normal manner.
There's another election in the region this week, in Fiji on Wednesday. First time to the polls for about a third of the population since the voting age has dropped too from 21 to 18, and there have been no elections for 8 years.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Miss M was here for the weekend. She is very excited as she is on oral maintenance chemo now. She has the faintest little fuzz of hair growing back and that is exciting too to her.
Big sister has probably cracked patella and it is displaced. She has a massive brace which puts patella in place and holds it there. Worn day and night. It will be adjusted in two weeks.
She is not excited. She has no end date in sight, brace is uncomfortable and she is on crutches. No walking without them. Usuall a sunny temperament but it was stormy over the weekend.
[ 15. September 2014, 08:54: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Grumpy or not, she needs the brace! Been there, done that, when I was 14. Spent nearly a year in and out of plaster (no fancy braces then). It didn't help my cricket career.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Marama, that's because the World Cup was far more important than any election could ever be
The Fiji election sounds interesting. I have heard a radio programme about it, but as far as most of the news media goes the headline grabbing antics of various candidates here obliterates anything happening in the rest of the world.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:
Grumpy or not, she needs the brace! Been there, done that, when I was 14. Spent nearly a year in and out of plaster (no fancy braces then). It didn't help my cricket career.
Arabella, I do think she understands that she needs it, it seems like the last straw in a bad year for her and everything caught up with her. Poor kid , she is just twelve and has had a lot to deal with,
Plaster must have been terrible for so long. At least her brace is more ventilated. Thigh to ankle, five adjustable straps and two knobs for pressure and direction of patella.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Loth, ongoing prayers for Miss M and her big sister. I know life isn't fair, but when I read of their vicissitudes I just want to scream, "Enough!"
Huia
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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It's been great to work everyday this week - * 'll even get paid and everything. But * 'm EXHAUSTED.
Half a day working tomorrow, then playing cricket on Saturday with Middle, then doing a trivia night for the soccer club.
Would welcome any good trivia question suggestions.
mr curly
Posted by Marama (# 330) on
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*ell Fiji has voted and the result looks pretty clear-cut (and actually almost e*actly *hat * *as predicting). But some are complaining. Perhaps there are some irregularities, but the multi-national observers seemed pretty *****. *e'll see...
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Today marks the hundred and twenty-first anniversary of women's suffrage in NZ, so * 'm wearing a white camelia, which is the symbol the suffragists used.
* will vote tomorrow, which is election day, though many people have taken the opportunity to vote early.
With all the accusations, and counter accusations this has been a contentious time, but at least no one has thrown a dead cat at any candidates, which my Aunty told me happened in a election in the 1930s
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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We voted last Monday. There is less and less to choose between the major parties. * know who * 'd like to throw a dead cat at but * 'm too polite – * 'd never do it.
The Seven Days programme tonight was a good laugh, though, with Colin Craig and Peter Dunne doing 'This is my picture' and David Shearer and Te Ururoa Flavell singing about the week's news.
GG
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Synod today and tomorrow, so this little perpendicular pronoun will be voting often, he suspects. This little perpendicular pronoun voted in the civic elections on Thursday. It's kinda sweet and simple in NZ, compared to the Australian paper war.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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There was a steady stream of voters at the library on Thursday and Friday. Some of the early voting in ChCh was because there were rumours of snow today - which there may be - at seven hundred metres above sea level. Whatever the reason, having easily accessible early voting facilities is a good idea. Shall toddle off to the school round the road to vote when the temperature heats up a little.
Know what you mean about people worthy of having a dead cat flung GG, but my aim is bad and Georgie-Porgy wouldn't be a willing sacrifice. On the other hand there is that grey cat who skulks around our place...
Huia - musing whether Gareth Morgan would approve of this use of cats.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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quote:
Crap spouted by Zappa:
Synod today and tomorrow, so this little perpendicular pronoun will be voting often, he suspects. This little perpendicular pronoun voted in the civic elections on Thursday. It's kinda sweet and simple in NZ, compared to the Australian paper war.
* shall avoid the obvious comment.
Our local council showed a real interest in democracy this week. There are 6 Liberal Party councillors, forming a solid voting block which dominates the council. Informal discussions showed that these councillors would vote out their present leader, who is the mayor, and elect a 23 year old. A brave step, but that's what they wanted. The pre-council meeting of the party to choose the candidate was fixed for 5.30 pm. Come the hour, only the mayor and a loyal supporter were present. They held the caucus and chose the mayor as candidate. 3 minutes later, the others arrived and wanted to choose the young man. Madam Mayor, as she likes to be called, said "Too late. * 'm chosen and under caucus rules you must now vote for me or you're thrown out of the Liberal Party". So they went into the council meeting and voted for her. Perhaps the most brilliant example of Stalinism in action since the lights went out at an ALP meeting in Leichhardt.
And remember the old adage - vote early, vote often and vote for the dead.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Perhaps it's time for a sequel to Rats in the Ranks,Gee D?
* read about that event but can remember rumblings from when we lived in that council area a few years ago.
Just discovered H and A day applies to the formatting option of italics. The perpendicular pronoun is obliterated so film title doesn't show
[ 20. September 2014, 00:20: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Voted - love seeing the community out doing something together. Was there at the same time as the local disabled support house and was very impressed to hear their carers explaining what to do. There had clearly been some prior discussion.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Agree about the community atmosphere Arabella. My electorate has had a boundary change, so is marginal and the electorate MP isn't on the party list, so it's make or break for her.
Election night is the only time my TV watching is assured, though we may have to wait to see what the shape of the Government will be.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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No change in Government, no change in my electorate MP, who has her personal following, despite the Party vote for the electorate going the other way by a huge majority. Why did I stay up so late?
Huia
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Any NZ shippies - did the Internet party ever have any legs to it, or was it just something a few journalists pushed a bit? Given the quality of the journalism here and assuming it was no higher there, I'd have suspected the latter.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Purely my opinion;
I think there might have been a possibilty as they aligned with Mana, a party that had a sitting MP, Hone Harawira in one of the Maori seats. If he had won his seat and they had reached 1.4% of the Party vote then they would have had 2 MPs in. Hone has a large following in the North. In the end the seat went to Labour, (possibily because of the intervention of the leader of NZ First, who announced his backing for the Labour candidate).
This is the short answer and leaves out a whole lot of stuff that doesn't really belong in All Saints, but if you PM me I'll fill in more details.
Huia
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thanks Huia, that very nicely works things out for me.
Another week's work about to start. Madame and I have been unable so far to work out how to deal with her business, so no retirement at the end of this year for us.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Purely my opinion;
I think there might have been a possibilty as they aligned with Mana, a party that had a sitting MP, Hone Harawira in one of the Maori seats. If he had won his seat and they had reached 1.4% of the Party vote then they would have had 2 MPs in. Hone has a large following in the North. In the end the seat went to Labour, (possibily because of the intervention of the leader of NZ First, who announced his backing for the Labour candidate).
This is the short answer and leaves out a whole lot of stuff that doesn't really belong in All Saints, but if you PM me I'll fill in more details.
Huia
Hone might have been returned if Mana hadn't got aligned with teh Internet Party. We were sorry to see him go, as we have enormous respect for him. In fact the large Mr Dotcom realised he'd poisoned Hone's chances, publicly admitted it and apologised handsomely. Those of us who'd got over Dotcom in a big way had to respect his attitude at this point.
GG
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Yes I hope Hone can come back from this. I think it's a pity he got involved with Dotcom whose motives were less straightforward.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Yes I hope Hone can come back from this. I think it's a pity he got involved with Dotcom whose motives were less straightforward.
Very much the impression here also.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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This morning Mana, (Hone's party) are saying it wasn't a mistake to ally with the Internet Party.
We live in interesting, if confusing times, but it keeps the political analysts and pollsters employed.
Huia
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Two political figures always make me think of the Vicar of Bray (okay, Google it if you've never sung it) – Laila Harre and Peter Dunne. Which has belonged t the greater number of different parties?
GG
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Peter Dunne has stayed in Parliament for a very long time by blowing with the wind (and for his truly astounding hair). I think he wins hands down.
I used to like Laila Harre a lot back when she was Alliance, but this election she was weird, very weird. I don't know if any other NZ shippies saw anything of the Moment of Truth, but her final speech was heading into strange territory, and it was at that point I knew the IMP weren't going to be winning votes.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Arabella - thanks for saying that. I liked her when she was part of the Alliance, and later when she was talking about social justice issues, but at the moment of truth night she almost might have been a different person. I thought surely I couldn't have supported this woman, what was I thinking?
Peter Dunne's hair is almost a character in its own right, and arguably more interesting than the head on which it's growing. I once heard of a male first time voter who voted for him on the basis of the hair, because they thought it meant he had progressive views
Huia
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on
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Nice to see so much coverage of the NZ elections on the ABC. Maybe Aunty has finally woken up to how many Kiwis are in Oz.
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on
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NZ election got a guernsey on John Oliver too.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Clarence:
Maybe Aunty has finally woken up to how many Kiwis are in Oz.
Increasingly few / decreasingly many I believe.
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on
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There always seems to be heaps over here on the West Coast. Throw an Anzac biscuit in any direction, and you'll probably hit one.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Are they getting as far away from the shaky isles as possible, then.
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
I once heard of a male first time voter who voted for him on the basis of the hair, because they thought it meant he had progressive views
Actually, to be fair to him, when I used to volunteer for Women's Refuge, he always signed up to collect for us in July: he'd toddle down from Parliament and spend a couple of hours shaking a bucket with us. He was the only politician I ever saw doing it, so he gets kudos for it.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I didn't know that. I do know a gay friend clashed badly with him when he lived in Wellington many years ago. It just goes to show people are multi-dimensional.
I've also heard he is a good electorate MP.
After having problemes being connected to Vodaphone (leading to posts in Hell) I switched on Tuesday only to find the actual computer was having its own meltdown. Thank goodness for Sarah and the local computer trouble shooters, who fixed it. The downside is that i need a new computer.
The thought of sorting it all out made me want to lie down in a darkened room with a cold cloth draped over my forehead, but the technicians will do all the techie bits and switch over what needs to be switched. (Yes, I do know some people will say "Anyone can do it" but I value what little remains of my sanity to even attempt it.)
Huia
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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At least my electorate is one of few that lurched to Labour
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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I don't care what flavour politician you are, or which part of the political spectrum feels like home to you, I just want to say loudly and clearly that I would like to live in a world where dealing with VIOLENCE AGAINST ANYONE is more important than the issue of what the feck they choose to wear.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Agreed, I wish all Australians would stand together against violence. there is no justification for violence in Australia.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
I don't care what flavour politician you are, or which part of the political spectrum feels like home to you, I just want to say loudly and clearly that I would like to live in a world where dealing with VIOLENCE AGAINST ANYONE is more important than the issue of what the feck they choose to wear.
Having collected for Women's Refuge, Rape Crisis and Amnesty International, I take your point and apologise if I seem to take this lightly.
At least collecting for Amnesty (in NZ at least) doesn't attract threats of personal, physical violence.
On the other hand both the quick snatches of conversation and the silent emptying of purses by women when collecting for the other two causes speak for themselves.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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We have reached a milestone. Back at the beginning of January, this milestone was many miles away indeed as Miss M was so very ill.
Tomorrow she turns 10. She is bright and chirpy and very much better than after the last big chemo... She has almost two years left on maintenance doses if all goes well.
She is having a party in a park and has had fun planning it. Around 20 children and close to the same with adults. Decorations have gone on invitations, food chosen,, games picked out.
Her goal of having central line removed by birthday has not happened. On January 1, the need for it was desperate and another child was removed from theatre list for her. Removal is now considered elective surgery and those in NSW know what that means. To me, if it means another child is getting needed treatment, than that's OK.
Thank you for the support, prayers, good wishes and more which have come from all over the world. We are very appreciative.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Good news Loth and may Miss M have a very happy birthday tomorrow and many happy returns.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Party time. This is such good news Loth. I hope she has a very happy birthday and many more of them.
A notice at temporary the bus exchange says the completion date for the permanent replacement will be half way through next year The importance of this to me is only second to the building of a new Central Library in 2017.
I'd also like the insurance companies to settle all the housing claims from the September 2010 quake onwards. Some people are stll not living in weather-proof housing. I know the issues are really complicated, and that I don't fully understand them, but it seems to be dragging out over a long time.
I am also thankful how fortunate I have been in regard to my own house.
Huia
Posted by Ferijen (# 4719) on
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Happy Birthday Miss M
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Many happy returns Miss M.!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Have passed Miss M's news on to those at the cathedral who join me in praying for her
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on
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That is really great to hear, Lothlorien. I don't post much, but I have been following Miss M.'s progress (and her sister - how's that going?) and am really pleased to hear how well she's doing!
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Good to hear Miss M's news. May it be all steps forward and no steps back from here on, with smiles and hugs and cheerful news.
The Grandad had a brilliantly successful operation, a month ago now, and is better in many ways; with the hernia flattened out and the gut tucked back where it's meant to be it's digesting food (and those supplements) much better. But recovery from a six-hour operation under a general anaesthetic (which they'd thought he might not be able to cope with) is slow. He's going tomorrow to have a week in a nice rest home ( a new experience, a bit like being sent to boarding school) while I fly south for my respite break to visit my favourite cousin and go to the Sea of Faith conference, which I missed last year. So he too is encouraged by knowing that some prayers are being said.
GG
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Also good news, GG ...
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Happy birthday from us also.
Good to hear that GG - make sure that you have a solid rest this week, and that you look after yourself as well as looking after the Grand Dad.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Glad to hear it, GG - hope both you and the Grandad have good breaks.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Athrawes:
That is really great to hear, Lothlorien. I don't post much, but I have been following Miss M.'s progress (and her sister - how's that going?) and am really pleased to hear how well she's doing!
Thank you Athrawes. We appreciate all concern and prayers. Big sister has another few weeks of leg brace but is coping better this weekend than last time, two weeks ago. She cooked birthday breakfast of bacon and eggs for four of us yesterday and then a pile of pikelets for party.
Miss M is so much better on this lot of chemo, even with another 22 months to go. The last lot was very savage.
Banner Lady and others from ACT territory. My iPad popped up a reminder this morning that it is Family and Community Day in ACT today. I hope you are all celebrating appropriately.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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The Grandad had a brilliantly successful operation,
Very good news, GG. My mother was told once that six stitches in a badly cut finger stressed body as much as a minor operation, so I can only guess at what a six hour operation in an older person who was not well to start with, must do.
I hope you both have wonderful, restorative breaks.
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on
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Happy birthday to Queen Lizzie over here in Sandgroperville! Do you Eastern lot get a public holiday too?
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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We had our holiday for the Queen's birthday in July but we do get a holiday next Monday for Labour Day.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Dark Knight:
Happy birthday to Queen Lizzie over here in Sandgroperville! Do you Eastern lot get a public holiday too?
Isn't the Queen's birthday in April? Just in case, I Googled Elizabeth I to see if it was for her, but her birthday was 7th September, so that's no help.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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June here, but wikipedia tells all : It's all about summer in a different hemisphere.
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The Queen's Official Birthday (King's Official Birthday in the reign of a male monarch) is the selected day on which the birthday of the monarch of the Commonwealth realms (currently Queen Elizabeth II) is officially celebrated in those countries. The date varies as adopted by each Commonwealth country, but is generally around the end of May to the start of June, to coincide with a high probability of fine weather in the Northern Hemisphere for outdoor ceremonies.
When I was at boarding school it was always the first weekend back after the May holidays. We did not get a day off.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Evangeline:
but we do get a holiday next Monday for Labour Day.
Oh - and we do that on the 25th Oct or thereaclosest
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Originally posted by piglet:
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Originally posted by Dark Knight:
Happy birthday to Queen Lizzie over here in Sandgroperville! Do you Eastern lot get a public holiday too?
Isn't the Queen's birthday in April? Just in case, I Googled Elizabeth I to see if it was for her, but her birthday was 7th September, so that's no help.
Ya can't be expecting us to muck around with holidays every time we get a new monarch, so it's just an arbitrary date not their real birthday, as you can see, different Australian states have different dates for the holiday. Interestingly the potential loss of a public holiday worried a lot of people about voting to become a republic.
Posted by PeteC (# 10422) on
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Schoolchild chant:
The 24th of May is the Queen's Birthday
If you don't give us a holiday, we'll all run away
Canada has spoken (We're older and bigger.
Case closed
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Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by PeteC:
Schoolchild chant:
The 24th of May is the Queen's Birthday
If you don't give us a holiday, we'll all run away
Canada has spoken (We're older and bigger.
Case closed
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24/5 used to be called Empire Day here and we had a half holiday from school to build a bonfire. I date myself. It then turned into Commonwealth Day and I doubt it's much recognised at all down here.
Queen's birthday is in June in NSW.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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The Grandad was duly delivered, like a 13-year-old to boarding school, to the rest home. He phoned yesterday to say he'd found a friend, a man from the same line of work who's waiting for a unit at a nearby retirement village.
I'm sitting at a window on top of a hill in Oamaru with a sunlit view from the distant Alps and down the coast almost to Dunedin, and trying to get the hang of my new iPad Mini,
GG
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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Me too, Loth. A mid-morning assembly, speech from the local member [in our case the late Eric Willis], sing God Save the Queen, and home for the rest of the day.
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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I was quite surprised to find that Canada celebrates Queen Victoria's birthday (nearest Monday to 24th May, which was her actual birthday).
I believe it's when people go and open up their cabins and cottages for the summer.
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on
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Don't know, and don't care, when her actual birthday is. We do need a public holiday in the latter half of the year, though. Not that I get it, anyway, as I work in academe. But as that's not a real job anyway, no harm no foul.
Are all the bizarre oval ball sports done with now? Bring on the cricket season.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
Me too, Loth. A mid-morning assembly, speech from the local member [in our case the late Eric Willis], sing God Save the Queen, and home for the rest of the day.
We had a play where countries of the empire brought gifts to Britannia. Followed by a song representing that country. Eg. Wales had Men of Harlech.
I played Britannia as I could learn the biggest part and project my voice. No amplification at my small school. I cringe at it now, but there was nothing unusual then.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Originally posted by Dark Knight:
Don't know, and don't care, when her actual birthday is. We do need a public holiday in the latter half of the year, though. Not that I get it, anyway, as I work in academe. But as that's not a real job anyway, no harm no foul.
Are all the bizarre oval ball sports done with now? Bring on the cricket season.
The self-employed only get a holiday if they decide they don't want an income. I usually work 8 to 10 hours over a weekend, and more if it's a 3-day one like the next (as well as daylight-saving time - can anyone remember which way the clocks go?).
Some of us started out singing God Save the King, even if it were only one year for me.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Clocks go forward. 2:00am Saturday I think.
I remember reading about the King's death as I brought the paper home from kiosk for Dad. The Telegraph no less then. More cringe, although it was nothing like what it is now.
Posted by jugular (# 4174) on
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When I went to high school (in the nineties) we used to sing God Save the Queen AND Advance Straya Fear at Speech Night. My mother approved of this. She is not like the other mothers.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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When I went to school in the 80s we used to sing God Save the Queen only, one year there was a stoush with the Moderator of the Church about the singing of the National Anthem at Speech Day, so no anthem was sung at all.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Even when I was teaching, God save the Queen was sung at school assemblies etc. Speech day in Sydney Town Hall saw choir singing it in four parts with a solo, normal school assembly as a pupil had three parts. As a result I now sing a hotchpotch of different versions.
Primary school on Monday mornings had the pledge. I honour my God, I serve the King, I salute the flag.
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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I sang in the Combined High Schools' Choir under the baton of Terence Hunt in the Town Hall. We ended each concert with one of the Elgar arrangements of GSTQ. I can just about remember the bass line 45+ years on.
Terry Hunt was a great fan of English choral music, so we sang lots of Britten, Vaughan Williams, Elgar and Holst.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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At our local primary school, both verses of the National Anthem are sung - the second verse without irony. I guess if we share our boundless plains with multinational mining companies who've come across the seas, it must count.
mr curly
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Yeah, I'd ditch the 2nd verse.......
Long weekend coming up here, and the weather looks like being very kind yaaay.
Posted by bib (# 13074) on
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I find it odd that Advance Australia Fair became our national anthem in a surreptitious way. We all got a vote to choose from a short list what was to be known as our national song, and chose AAF, but some time later AAF became our national anthem which included altered words. Does anybody know how this came about, as I certainly didn't vote for that to happen.
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on
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Originally posted by Mr Curly:
At our local primary school, both verses of the National Anthem are sung - the second verse without irony. I guess if we share our boundless plains with multinational mining companies who've come across the seas, it must count.
mr curly
Yes, it does stick in the craw. Maybe we should sing v2 more, to make it plainer how we are failing to live up to its vision.
Godson's birthday party today. He is 2. Does tend to remind me how much I have missed of my girls. But he is ridiculously cute, and heaps of fun at this age.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Though I'm an outsider now, if I were supreme dictator of Australia I'd make "We Are Australian" the national anthem.
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on
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I like that one, Zap.
If we're going to stick with Advance Australia Fair (which by all accounts is better than God Save the anachronism), we should at least do it Adam Hills style.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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My brother when five sang the original second verse to his kindergarten class. You may not like that the current second verse makes us sing lies, but the original is dreadful. I have no idea where he learnt it as I did not know it at the time. (scroll down to view, When gallant Cook from Albion sailed...)
We may have boundless plains but are not allowed to share.
[ 04. October 2014, 23:53: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by piglet (# 11803) on
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True, the original second verse is a tad, um, imperialistic, but it was written in 1879 and I suppose that's how they thought in those days.
For my part, I'm quite relieved that I've never had to sing the verse of God Save the Queen (written about 1745) about crushing the rebellious Scots ...
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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BL, We have several tertiary Franciscans in the parish and commemorate St Francis's Day in a big way. Your bishop preached to us this morning, largely on the Saint. In his sermon, he noted the excellent relationship Francis had with Moslems, and said:
Writing this week to his congregation in Roseville (and picked up the ABC’s ‘the Drum’ website) Dr John Dickson stated:
In the end, I have a simple thing to say, and I feel a strong sense of God’s pleasure in saying it. Common sense and Christian faith urge us to shun both a naïve recasting of Islam as the mirror-image of liberal democracy, and a hateful projection of our own tribalism onto Australian Muslims.
Instead, let’s go out of our way in the coming weeks and months to pray for the Muslims around us and to convey love and friendship toward them. I commit to pray for every Muslim I see, and when I meet Muslims personally, I will try to express friendship in Christ’s name.
Well said indeed.
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on
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Very well said.
Hope y'all had a nice public holiday. We kept the country running.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Dark Knight:
Very well said.
Hope y'all had a nice public holiday. We kept the country running.
Son had a phone call last night from a good friend in Perth. Unfortunately son was just asleep after a very tiring day and friend had forgotten daylight savings now makes a three hour time difference.
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
Though I'm an outsider now, if I were supreme dictator of Australia I'd make "We Are Australian" the national anthem.
Well, I'm not supreme dictator, but am Aussie. And I would too.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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No names, but some of us had our own little private edge of the world ship meet the other day ...
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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I knew I should have rung and said hello. I've been in your neck of the woods all last week - although dancing attendance on my mum (not an onerous job, but time-intensive).
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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No worries - I am out of my tree busy last week and this
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
No names, but some of us had our own little private edge of the world ship meet the other day ...
And it doesn't get much closer to the edge of the world than New Zealand! Thanks for your hospitality - fish & chips and a fine Kiwi Sav Blanc
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Son took Miss M and her big sister to Night Noodle markets in Hyde Park in Sydney on Saturday evening. The had a wonderful time and were auditioned by Channel 7 as junior weather reporter. Link below is to a very short clip of them. They are reading from an auto cue. Miss M is clear, but big sister is struggling with two acrylic plates and braces on her teeth. She is still getting used to them.
It was to have aired last night and I turned on Channel 7 news near the end. However, the delays to Bathurst car race meant that they were still showing that. News came on late and was abbreviated so nothing was shown of any junior reporters.
Look, Miss M has hair!
Clip was able to be seen in both USA and UK yesterday, so hopefully still works. It's only short.
Junior weather reporters
Posted by Polly Plummer (# 13354) on
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Lovely to see your talented grand-daughters after hearing so much about them.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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They did very well.
GG
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Bravo Miss M. and Tara!
Posted by Uncle Pete (# 10422) on
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Brava! Good to see them both looking so well!
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Loth that was lovely, thanks for sharing it.
I have had my new computer connected and it's wonderful. While Sarah the technician was setting it up the courier arrived with my new kindle and I'm a bit conflicted as to where to go first. I keep learning new things - like the old one didn't have the red wavy line for spelling mistakes (no excuses now) and the size of the print is much kinder on my eyes.
I also bought a new phone which has the loudest ringer I have ever heard, and a speakerphone so I can hear more clearly (I never really had much luck with holding the receiver in the right place to connect with my hearing aids).
I think this is it for technology, at least for now. Next spendy project is rewiring the house
Huia
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
and the size of the print is much kinder on my eyes.
Huia
I can change the print size on my Mac with Command + or -. Do you have anything like that?
GG
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I am sure there is also a way to do this with Windows based systems as my Dad had his set differently - you may have to go into "accessibility" or something - I am sure someone here will know how it is done.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Your Granddaughters did a great job Loth! No easy thing to speak to camera, well done!
I'm off to the Night Noodle Markets next weekend, a friend managed to wangle some reserved seating as it always seems to be so crowded down there. I might have to give the low carb diet a break that night!
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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GG, the control + is my favourite command ( the only one I know off the top of my head). The monitor is humungous, around 55cm measured diagnonally. I was looking at something smaller until I was shown the one in the church office and realised how much easier it was to read.
All this is very well but last night I stupidly switched everything off now I can't get anthing to work The wi-fi modem says wifi is off, only it can't be right off because my laptop is using it. The humungous screen glares at me emptily. Last night I couldn't send an email nor access the old stuff that was transferred. I hate technology.
At least the phone is OK and the kindle is charging. Meanwhile I will curl up with a real, live, paper book.
Huia - technopeasant (thanks for that word Uncle Pete)
Posted by Ferijen (# 4719) on
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Loved seeing the Loth granddaughters (looking so well too).
And a little bit nostalgic. Four years ago Mr F and I met Ian Climacus at the night noodle market. Great food (and company!).
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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This is ridiculous. Spring weather is fickle, but 34 deg. a couple of days ago and this morning there is snow on the mountains and out Bathurst way.
Another very wild storm here for second night. Torrential rain and wild wind. No hot water here this morning. Electricity is fine and there is gas to stove, so I am guessing something happened in wind to tanks on roof garden. Gas and electricity are both used to heat hot water for block.
I have emailed strata manager and she probably has other complaints on her desk this morning.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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I don't know whereabouts in Australia you are, Loth, but there were pictures on the Canadian weather channel's "wild weather" feature today of fairly interesting (and very moist) weather in Sydney.
Take care, those of you who are affected.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I'm in Sydney, Piglet. Well out of flooding reach where I am, but one street where I looked at townhouses is deep in water from Cook's River this morning. The townhouses would not have flooded but their underground car park would have. Storm water canal which is wide and deep near me, was on point of overflowing.
Intersection I overlook had huge waves as cars moved through. It's at the bottom of two slopes and water gathers in intersection.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Piglet, Lothlorien, Evangeline, MSHB and I all ive in Sydney, but spread across different suburbs - remembering that suburbs have a very different meaning here to that in the US and Europe. It is probably over 60 km as the crow flies from D Towers to MSHB lives. Where MSHB is was very hard hit, less so where I gather Evangeline and Lothlorien live (I am going by their attendance at a particular church). Where we are is usually one of the wettest areas of Sydney, but we escaped the worst of it this time. Only a few light branches down at home and I had no trouble on the train this morning.
[ 15. October 2014, 02:27: Message edited by: Gee D ]
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Well, I've learned something today - I just used Ctrl and + - and I think it will be my new favourite thing.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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It is probably over 60 km as the crow flies from D Towers to MSHB lives. Where MSHB is was very hard hit, less so where I gather Evangeline and Lothlorien live
It would be all of that, I think. My cousin lives in adjoining area to MSHB and there are pictures in SMH of major damage. They could not get out of their house and boats have broken loose from moorings too.
Evangeline and I are much closer to each other. She is close to one major road out of Sydney and I am on the other. Your area seems to have escaped this time. I can remember two major storms up your way and my brother's Volvo was crushed by a tree falling lengthways along it about 25 years ago. He said he moved a branch from the road this morning but could see not other signs of the storm.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I was using a library computer when one of the staff told me about ctrl+ then, the next day, I was the star of Improve your Computer skills at another branch by passing the hint on. Even the staff member taking it didn't know. For a few seconds I basked in the joy of seeming to be knowledgeable about computers, then I told them how recent and limited my knowledge really was.
Huia
Posted by Curiosity killed ... (# 11770) on
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You know you can reduce the size of the text by Ctrl- ?
I forget how many keyboard controls I use because they become automatic. Copy (CtrlC) and paste (CtrlV) are regulars, but there are lots more.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I discovered Ctrl- through trying it, because I thought it would be logical, but as I get older I have more need to make the font bigger.
Today I went to the audiologist and found that the more appropriate hearing aids will cost $6,000 rather than the $3,000 I was hoping. Thank goodness I have not yet spent all my parents legacy. And, worst of all, they may not come in purple It's not fair, paediatric ones come in all colours.
Huia -still a kid at heart.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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You would think that at that price, they would come in purple. I hope that they do work for you - hearing aids seem such tricky things.
Piglet - another 2 from Sydney, not heard from now, are Duo Seraphim and Multipara. Not sure where they live.
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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My mother lived at Undercliffe opposite Riverside Park, and often had to paddle home when the trams couldn't run beyond The Warren because Cooks River was up. When I was about 18 months old, we moved up the hill to Earlwood. I have often walked to Bardwell Park to catch the train before I moved to the Hunter, and cannot remember Wolli Creek coming as high. Bexley Road at Bexley North often went under but never Bardwell Park. Maybe changes due to motorway and quadruplication of the railway have altered runoff.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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That's the spot, Barnabas. The crescent next to golf course. The townhouses were three storey with steps at front, but had underground parking. A few years ago there was flooding there and a little mini floated down the road.
Son and DIL rented on the other side only metres from the river. No problems while thay were there, but they moved when baby was born. Very high water table meant house was often damp. One advantage of the pkace was it was about rwo minutes from Adora chocolates
I did look at places up the hill, but they were among first units in Sydney and were very dated with rusty concrete.
Bexley floods at station regularly. I was surprised to see the water at Bardwell Park.
Can't quite work out what went wrong there. Perhaps the creek flooded up the valley and water escaped down rail line.
[ 15. October 2014, 20:20: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
You would think that at that price, they would come in purple. I hope that they do work for you - hearing aids seem such tricky things.
The ones I use now were my first, and initially took some adjusting to, but have been brilliant. I am hoping that the new ones, which are a similar configuration, will be a bit easier. The fact that they make so much difference to my life makes me determined to overcome any problems.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
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Originally posted by Gee D:
You would think that at that price, they would come in purple. I hope that they do work for you - hearing aids seem such tricky things.
The ones I use now were my first, and initially took some adjusting to, but have been brilliant. I am hoping that the new ones, which are a similar configuration, will be a bit easier. The fact that they make so much difference to my life makes me determined to overcome any problems.
Huia
I do recognise I should have had them very many yeas ago. Still have a love/hate relationship with them. Hate things in ears, but need to hear.
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
Piglet, Lothlorien, Evangeline, MSHB and I all ive in Sydney, but spread across different suburbs - remembering that suburbs have a very different meaning here to that in the US and Europe.
And another shipmate as well, of course (cough,cough): Western Sydney here - the storms were bad but fortunately not destroying so: makes up for the December hail storm of a few years back which totally two cars and some solar panels!
I used to live in Epping and thought it was the storm/rain capital of Sydney - but others were always even worse off than we were.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Spare a prayer as I try and co-ordinate 22 bishops and 100+ clergy over the next few days. 23 bishops when it's over, but I can walk away then.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Crikey, Zappa - your shenanigans make the ordination we're doing tomorrow (one deacon, one priest) sound very small-time.
Good luck!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Apologies Emli - and hope that you are travelling well. I do miss Multipara's posts. She would have put some posters well and truly in place with a few, well chosen, words.
All those bishops! Have you made sure that they all get purple bath towels in their hotels? You might get away with green. I gather that some of them get a bit stroppy if they have to put up with white except on those days.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Two lots of good news this morning. Miss M had her central line removed yesterday which was put in on New Year's Day. She is very happy as she wanted it out by he r birthday and that was a couple of weeks ago. It also means she can go swimming this summer.
Miss M has also had removed the cumbersome leg brace which went from thigh to ankle and was worn 24 hours a day.
Getting the line in was an urgent surgery. Getting it out was classed as elective and she had to wait for an opportunity. It spells progress.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Excellent news about them both, Lothlorien.
Posted by Uncle Pete (# 10422) on
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To the grandgirls:
[ 17. October 2014, 01:14: Message edited by: Uncle Pete ]
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Splendid news, Loth!
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Brilliant!
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on
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Really pleased to hear this, Lothlorien!
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
Spare a prayer as I try and co-ordinate 22 bishops and 100+ clergy over the next few days. 23 bishops when it's over, but I can walk away then.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Zappa, trust all went well and the Bishops and assorted clergy are now safely on their way home!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
All those bishops! Have you made sure that they all get purple bath towels in their hotels? You might get away with green. I gather that some of them get a bit stroppy if they have to put up with white except on those days.
As it happened the Archbishop arrived to find that the hotel had screwed up his booking and there was no room for him. I mentioned that the cathedral was looking to develop its ministry for street people ...
All went well. I'm still exhausted.
Your turn, DD
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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No doubt + Wellington gave up his room and slept rough himself.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Yeah, right. He wore shoes for once, though.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Here, with very few exceptions, nobody wears shoes in church.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
Yeah, right. He wore shoes for once, though.
Instead of what?
Our ordination on Thursday went well too - we had just one Bishop and one Archbishop (the Bishop of Western Newfoundland has just been elected Metropolitan of the Province of Canada). We (the choir) acquitted ourselves rather well, resulting in the Dean grinning like the Cheshire Cat.
It's nice to be appreciated.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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You ask, Instead of what?
Have a look here, Piglet.
Second picture down.
Notice also the dreads.
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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good need indeed, Loth.
(I haven't been on this thread for a while)
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Piglet:
We (the choir) acquitted ourselves rather well, resulting in the Dean grinning like the Cheshire Cat.
It's nice to be appreciated.
You clearly have a nicer Dean than we do ...
[ 20. October 2014, 06:18: Message edited by: Zappa ]
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Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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My first gig at running a leader's retreat for 12 is now done and dusted.
BL does not do process stuff well, being of creatif rather than logical bent. But after 15 years of watching leader after leader fall out the other end of running prison ministry weekends it was decided the leaders needed some serious Time Out.
So we gathered at a catholic boys school camp site on the NSW South Coast, prettied up the barracks for our ladies and engaged a spiritual director. It was a beautiful venue overlooking the Pacific - and even the whales showed up! The sharing was honest and healing.
I learned heaps, and for my sins I have been asked to explore doing the same for prison chaplains. Where this is going I have no idea, but I suspect 2015 will be rather busy. All this in the midst of B1 & kids moving back home (again) B2, kids & husband coming down with chicken pox, B3 & B4 moving house & jobs and my 96 yr old mother needing to have her teeth removed.
All I can say is God has some sense of humour...
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Goodbye, Gough , go well
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I put a link to some quotes on the memorial thread. I remember staying awake most of the night after news of Labor victory in 1972, worried about what might happen. His term changed my politics totally around.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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This side of the Tasman we had Norman Kirk get in around the same time, again after years of sloth from the Tories. He died soon afterwards, and his government, too, only lasted one term. We stayed in synch with you guys on a left-right spectrum until about 1990 but not so much since.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
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Originally posted by Gee D:
All those bishops! Have you made sure that they all get purple bath towels in their hotels? You might get away with green. I gather that some of them get a bit stroppy if they have to put up with white except on those days.
As it happened the Archbishop arrived to find that the hotel had screwed up his booking and there was no room for him. I mentioned that the cathedral was looking to develop its ministry for street people ...
All went well. I'm still exhausted.
Your turn, DD
Thanks Zappa, good everything went well. The pictures were fabulous. We had a "dry run" today going through the Order of Service. We need to plan on the presence of the ambulance due to the risk of heat stroke (I am quite serious about this - the end of November is no time to be wearing clergy robes here!)
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
We need to plan on the presence of the ambulance due to the risk of heat stroke (I am quite serious about this - the end of November is no time to be wearing clergy robes here!)
No doubt about that ...
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on
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The difficulties with togging up in an Australian summer.
We have the reverse problem: when FD puts on an alb he cranks up the air con in Terror's Creek Reformed Tabernacle and we all freeze to death.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Here clergy robes appear to be incredibly light, which has to be a good thing for the clergy.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Certainly light weight robes here - and no air conditioning in my cathedral, just very good natural ventilation. But some of our visiting bishops and priests are going to insist on wearing convocation robes or choir dress! In the invitations that were sent out I inserted the following: "For the information of visitors who may be unfamiliar with the climate here, local clergy generally wear alb & stole over shorts and sandals."
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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On another matter altogether - I received a congratulatory card yesterday from a friend in Newcastle, telling me that a column I had written for the Diocesan Newspaper (Anglican Encounter) had won a silver medal at the APRA (Australasian Religious Press Association) 2014 Awards. Nobody had thought to tell me! I eventually googled myself online to find the following the citation:
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Australasian Religious Press Association – 2014 Awards
BEST COLUMN OR BLOG – SILVER
Anglican Encounter
“Bitter Reflections on Climate Change”
This individual article is one of a series of 10 by different authors. They come under the generic title of Envirotopics. However even the loaded title of this article does not prepare the reader for its brutal impact. The writer brooks no niceties as he strips away the superficiality of our comfortable and self-serving lifestyles, and unapologetically rips into us. His illustrations are real, powerful and personal. He heaps on us a guilt-trip with no foreseeable remission or righting of the environmental wrongs we are committing. Ouch! This is a noticeably different article from any of the other 51 entries which helps it stand out; but its no-holds-barred style and content is what puts it among the winners.
As you might guess, I was pretty angry when I wrote the column. Still angry.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Clarence:
... he cranks up the air con in Terror's Creek Reformed Tabernacle and we all freeze to death.
The thing is though, if you're cold you can always put on an extra layer; if you're too hot there's a limit to what you can take off.
I always take off my top before putting on my cassock (which is a lightweight cotton-mix kind of fabric), even in winter; the PTB who control the Cathedral heating have internal thermostats set very differently from mine. And Cathedral-length surplices trap a hell of a lot of hot air.
Confessions of a warm-blooded, northerly piglet ...
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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DD, Well done! Can we read it on-line somewhere please?
Huia
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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To read DD's article go to the diocesan webpage and click on the link to the Encounter newspaper. Open the current issue and click through the digital edition - the article is republished towards the back of the magazine.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Yay, I found it.
Thank you for writing that DD. It has given me a greater understanding of the devastating effects of global warming on people's lives.
Because life has been a bit more difficult here I had kind of lost track of things like that, but the huge differences are that we started from a far more privileged position and it's getting easier, whereas for the people you mentioned it will only get harder.
Huia
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
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The writer brooks no niceties as he strips away the superficiality of our comfortable and self-serving lifestyles, and unapologetically rips into us. His illustrations are real, powerful and personal. He heaps on us a guilt-trip with no foreseeable remission or righting of the environmental wrongs we are committing.
As you might guess, I was pretty angry when I wrote the column. Still angry.
Right on, bro!
Thanks for the link.
(You may remember that I stayed overnight with you at Kohimarama and with Nigel and others we had a very lively discussion on these issues. Indeed I have cited Nigel's work in a few articles I have written since then.)
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Barnabas Aus:
To read DD's article go to the diocesan webpage and click on the link to the Encounter newspaper. Open the current issue and click through the digital edition - the article is republished towards the back of the magazine.
Wish it could be widely circulated. But we had ahard-hitting account in the DomPost recently and it concluded that we will read it and continue with our selfish lifestyles.
GG
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Sorry Barnabas Aus, I failed to acknowledge you linking the article.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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And flies the flag at half mast still?
After Gough Whitlam's death earlier this week, the McDonalds downstairs lowered both their Australian flag and the McD's flag to halfmast. Or what passed for that in a teenage employee's eyes. Far too low.
Their flag has since been raised but the Australian flag is still hanging there limply this morning. It looks sad. It is over one of Sydney's busiest roads so collects grease and fumes. It is filthy. It needs replacing as the end has begun to rot and long threads dangle from it. Hanging far too low.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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I am glad to hear from you that they made the effort, even if it be too low - or if it were not correctly raised to half-mast either. An occasion when the thought counts.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Originally posted by Tukai:
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
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The writer brooks no niceties as he strips away the superficiality of our comfortable and self-serving lifestyles, and unapologetically rips into us. His illustrations are real, powerful and personal. He heaps on us a guilt-trip with no foreseeable remission or righting of the environmental wrongs we are committing.
As you might guess, I was pretty angry when I wrote the column. Still angry.
Right on, bro!
Thanks for the link.
(You may remember that I stayed overnight with you at Kohimarama and with Nigel and others we had a very lively discussion on these issues. Indeed I have cited Nigel's work in a few articles I have written since then.)
Hi Tukai! Yes, remember it well. Nigel is back in the Solomons finishing off a Masters degree at Leeds in a related area. Sadly however corrupt or incompetent governments both in the islands and here hamper any real attempt by government to deal with the issue.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
I am glad to hear from you that they made the effort, even if it be too low - or if it were not correctly raised to half-mast either. An occasion when the thought counts.
Gee D You may be pleased to know there is a new Australian flag at Mcds down below my place. The tired, filthy tattered one was still there last night, so the replacement must have happened during the night. No more hanging threads and torn edges. Bright colours and blowing quite strongly in the breeze down here.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you, it is good that they continue to make the effort to remember a great man.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Sad news from my former ministry in the Solomon Islands. Whilst two novices (trainees in the Melanesian Brotherhood) were walking the road between Tabalia (the Brother's Headquarters on Guadalcanal) and Honiara, it appears they were set upon. One novice escaped with his life, but the other is dead. Lots of conjecture, but no further reliable information at this time. May our brother rest in peace.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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That's frightful, DD. May his soul rest in peace and rise in glory.
for the recovery of the survivor.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by DangerousDeacon:
Sad news from my former ministry in the Solomon Islands. Whilst two novices (trainees in the Melanesian Brotherhood) were walking the road between Tabalia (the Brother's Headquarters on Guadalcanal) and Honiara, it appears they were set upon. One novice escaped with his life, but the other is dead. Lots of conjecture, but no further reliable information at this time. May our brother rest in peace.
Very sad. I have passed this on to my friend who has just returned from his second trip this year to Solomons. While not a pentecostal, he preaches in many of their small churches and holds studies and coffee shop type talks to discuss matters with some of their pastors.
[ 30. October 2014, 20:23: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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What a horrible thing to happen DD, so sad and so brutal.
for all involved
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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The young novice who died is Jackson Londo. The other novice, Abraham Kelly, is injured. The police are investigating, and the Melanesian Brotherhood are devastated. As we observe All Saints Day, please pray for the repose of the soul of Novice Jackson, and for God's comfort for those who mourn, especially his family and community in East Guadalcanal, and for the Melanesian Brotherhood. We also pray for Novice Abraham Kelly, and for his recovery.
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GG
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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for all concerned here. The Brotherhood has paid a high price for its work yet again.
for all the saints who from their labours rest...
[ 31. October 2014, 19:40: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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I have incorporated both of the novices names in our liturgy for the morrow - we celebrate both All Saints' and All Souls' - one rolling into the other - not the best liturgical practice but one born our of necessity.
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Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Jackson Londo
Abraham Kelly, and
the Melanesian Brotherhood
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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for the soul of Jackson Londo, for the recovery of Abraham Kelly, for the rest of the Brotherhood and all those who mourn.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Just received my renewed driver licence, and discovered I'm still licensed to ride a motor bike. I thought they'd dropped it years ago. Brrrm Brrrm! Don't think I could get my leg over even the 125cc I rode 35 years ago.
My photo looks quite like the queen.
What are the rules for ageing drivers over the ditch? Here it's a medical at 75 and 80 and every 2 years thereafter. Or a test if the doctor isn't convinced.
GG
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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My youngest brother bought a Harley - but I don't think he would be likely to lend it to you for a spin. The first time he took it up the Kapiti Coast the local bikie gang offered to let him ride with them.
I went to a lovely craft show on Friday. Mainly quilting, needlework, scrapbooking and some card making. Amongst some very traditional crafts there was some very up to date technology This ScanNcut blew me away, as did the price. Still it's much cheaper than many sewing machines.
I also got some ideas for fine tuning the Christmas mini banner which may be my 'card' this year.
Huia
[Link corrected]
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Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
... What are the rules for ageing drivers over the ditch?
In the UK your driving licence lasts until your 70th birthday, and when I passed my test (in 1987) they didn't have a photograph, so you didn't need to renew the physical licence. At 70 you have to get a medical certificate to say that you're fit.
I don't drive over here (I haven't had the nerve to sit another test), but I think the rules are similar, although the photo-licences have to be replaced every five years.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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It is similar here with the basic licence lasting until 70 but Himself has to renew his additional [Heavy Goods Vehicle and Bus] licences every three years which involves an eye test and various other things.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Thank you for all the prayers for the Melanesian Brotherhood. I have spoken to a couple of the Brothers, they are preparing for burial once the body is released by the police.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Drivers Licenses - in Australia I think (? - not being of senior enough years yet!) that it is 75 then you need a medical, and at 84 you need to pass a driving test. There is also provision for a restricted licence where you can only drive within 10 km of your home, in which case you don't need to pass the test. But I stand to be corrected on this!
Many years ago in the Army I gained a licence for a light bus (the old Toyota Hi-Ace). This then became a civilian licence for a light rigid vehicle, which due to changes in licencing regulations over the decades has now morphed into a licence for a truck up to 8 tons. I haven't had to do a thing, just watch the regulations change.
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on
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Rescuing the thread from the bottom of the page...
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Hi, Athrawes. Getting ready for the end of school etc?
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on
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Trying to survive report cards. I'm up to my armpits in marking, so checking the ship is vital!
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Hi Athrawes - have you needed to use the long jump pit this year?
Hope the report writing goes well and that when your well deserved holidays finally come you have a chance to relax.
Huia
Posted by Athrawes (# 9594) on
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The long jump pit had to be retired . Fortunately there are enough yabbies in the creek for body disposal purposes. It's been a long year.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Good to hear from you again - keep us up to date with your doings.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Athrawes I hope you can get a good break over Christmas.
Huia
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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GG, how are the new hearing aids? At least being purple, they should make assignations in railway stations and so forth easier.
Posted by Nunc Dimittis (# 848) on
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Hello everyone. It's been a loooooooong loooooong time since I posted on the Ship.
Some of you may know I had some turmoil earlier in the year. That's now more or less resolved and I'm staying put for the time being (there are plans in the works, but I'm not going to say anything here and now).
Just, er, lobbing in to say hi and I haven't disappeared into the ether.
Posted by Uncle Pete (# 10422) on
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Originally posted by Gee D:
GG, how are the new hearing aids? At least being purple, they should make assignations in railway stations and so forth easier.
You mean Huia? Mine are so boring.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Originally posted by Nunc Dimittis:
Just, er, lobbing in to say hi and I haven't disappeared into the ether.
Glad to hear it. Hope you'll have more time to was- spend on board.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Welcome back Nunc Dimittis. Now if someone could persuade Multipara to return as well......
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Sorry for the double post, but I did forget to say that I was not aware of any difficulties you had earlier in the year. Commiserations for those.
My memory must be bad Uncle Pete. I thought that it was GG had the new hearing aids. I have really only had a quick scan of the hip over the last few weeks is the better of available excuses.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by Uncle Pete:
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Originally posted by Gee D:
GG, how are the new hearing aids? At least being purple, they should make assignations in railway stations and so forth easier.
You mean Huia? Mine are so boring.
I know of one young boy who has one purple and one green aid so he can tell easily which colour goes in which ear. Diagnosed with severe hearing loss when he was very young, he has worn hearing aids basically all his life.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Gee D They are fantastic! The purple is almost hidden by my hair, but I know it's there. There are birds at the end of my street that yell every time I walk past and the magpies next door are very loud.
The audiologist said when children are choosing hearing aids anything can happen colour wise because they get 4 choices, one for each of the aids that fit behind the ear and one for each of the ear moulds that go inside the ear, anything to encourage them to wear them. Being more adult (ahem) my right ear mould is red and the left blue - so I put them in the correct ear.
Nunc - it's lovely to see you back. Take care of yourself.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Being more adult (ahem) my right ear mould is red and the left blue - so I put them in the correct ear.
Both sets of aids which I have had had a discreet, permanent red dot on the right earpiece. Just how they came. I put a corresponding dot of nail polish on the actual right aid so I could always pair them up correctly after taking apart for cleaning.
Posted by bib (# 13074) on
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My young grandson opted for hearing aids in Collingwood colours and his young friends are most envious and impressed. Now he is no longer embarrassed about wearing hearing aids, which can be a problem for young boys.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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I've no experience of hearing aids (yet!) but the colour-coding thing works with contact-lenses: as well as being labelled "L" and "R", the lids or the little baskety things are usually one white, one coloured - "right in the white".
I suppose if you haven't got your lenses in, you might not be able to read the letters ...
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I suppose if you haven't got your lenses in, you might not be able to read the letters ...
I have a set of the tiny screwdrivers needed for tightening screws on the arms or frames of my glasses. Trouble is, I have to take the glasses off to use them and then can't see the head of the screw. I now wait for someone else to arrive with better sight.
[ 12. November 2014, 03:30: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Yup, been there, done that ...
I use spectacles as well as contacts, and I used to have a set that comprised a little magnifying glass with a screwdriver that slotted into the handle, but I've lost the screwdriver.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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I have my magnifying specs on a neck chain - trouble is when I take them off and put them down they sometimes tangle - and I can't see to untangle them without my magnifying specs on!
Catch 22, sigh.
I have decided that my new year's resolution is to buy as many cheap different colour rimmed specs as possible and put them on hangers with matching scarves. As I mostly wear black, it's an inexpensive way of doing "fashion". I've got to that age when I begrudge time spent on how I present myself to the world.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Some of those scarves could well be more expensive than the frames!
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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I used to need glasses for everything.
As I get older, I can see better up-close, so now take them off for reading, computer, jewellery clasps and so forth.
Many folk giggle when they see me do this.... Not a typical gesture of tne older section of tne community.
Or maybe I am just laughable at?
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I'm pretty much the same and read without my specs but recently invested in a sort of middle pair that is fab for computer use but it is taking me a while to learn to move back for clarity rather than forwards as I have been doing for so many years.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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I have been wondering if anyone has had contact with James the Confident, or did he tell us he wold be caught up with RL?
Huia the forgetful - who doesn't have much RL
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Perhaps his marriage has happened, or he is in the throes of preparation, making him a bit busy.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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I need hearing aids but have been so busy with all the Grandad's problems that I haven't got a round tuit yet.
Whereas his hearing's much worse but he is so furious when I mention his overdue hearing test and de-waxing that it's not happening yet.
GG
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I've seen round tuits in bargain shops here. Perhaps I should send you one.
I knew I needed them for very many years before I actually got a round tuit too. I hate them but know I could not manage without them now at all.
My sister once spoke to ex Mr L and was told it was my problem, not his.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
I have been wondering if anyone has had contact with James the Confident, or did he tell us he wold be caught up with RL?
Huia the forgetful - who doesn't have much RL
While one shouldn't mention other fora on the Ship, he appears active and cheerful elsewhere ...
Posted by Clarence (# 9491) on
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Poor FD has be doing some supply work at Sick Dissenters and has just been called out.... after a long day there already, plus 37 degree heat, plus the car breaking down, plus only just getting home and pouring a glass of something convivial before dinner.
Dear Lord, I know that in the Great Scheme of Things it's trivial, but can you keep his guardian angel on alert tonight?
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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37c Commiserations. I can't even begin to imagine that!
The something convivial sounds like a good idea.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Huia, it was 34° at my place in inner west Sydney yesterday. However, I have a screen shot showing name of suburb and 46° last summer.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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I've just checked the Environment Canada web-site and it's 33°F here at the moment.
Then again, it's nearly winter here ...
Posted by Barnabas Aus (# 15869) on
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We came home via the Blue Mountains on Friday - got through the bushfire zone about 15 minutes before the highway was completely closed, and arrived at my son's house in Penrith about 5.30pm, where it was 44degC. Thankfully much cooler today.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Friends back of Yass have their fire lit. Cold, windy and wet. Potato bake in oven.
That fire was very close to a friend's place, just around the corner.
[ 16. November 2014, 04:49: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Clarence:
37 degree heat
A distant memory and I'll miss it for ever. I'm off to Dunedin tomorrow. I'll doubt it'll be 37 there :-(
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Originally posted by Zappa:
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Originally posted by Clarence:
37 degree heat
A distant memory and I'll miss it for ever. I'm off to Dunedin tomorrow. I'll doubt it'll be 37 there :-(
Maybe 37 degrees Fahrenheit.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Perhaps, but only in mid-summer. In the North Island of course, a temperature that high can sometimes be reached in early December, certainly by Christmas. But it never gets hot enough to justify the fanning effect of banners on bendy poles.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Temps of 19 – 20 C at Matarangi this week, but with showers or (today) rain with no sun. But on a fine day the grandkids jump around on the edge of the sea and get pretty well wet all over, without complaining.
Zappa, I hope you have sunshine in Dunedin. That city in Spring on a fine day is hard to beat – I was there last month for the Sea of Faith conference.
GG
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Way too wet and cold for our church picnic in the Gardens yesterday....
Nice potluck in tne hall, with heating and all, though!
A wintery weekend.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Just back from visiting Mother-in-law in hospital - end stages of lymphona, looking like she won't make it to Christmas. It seems peace and calm have descended, which is a relief compared to recent months of chemo etc. Kidlets will go and see her this afternoon and will be getting the news.
Busy and uncertain rest of the year.
mr curly
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Sorry to hear that, Mr. C. - prayers ascending.
It was a beautifully sunny, but cold (hovering around 0°C) day here today.
Perfect November weather.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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for you all, Mr Curly.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Should anyone feel they might like to make reindeer tournedos with red wine and juniper berry butter for their Christmas lunch, please PM me and I will send recipe.
I bought a Finnish electric smoker last week and tried it out yesterday with salmon fillets which sons cooked. They did not take very long at all and were beautiful.
Smoker details in signature.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Consecration of our new Bishop in ten days time - in the morning at 9.00 am on Saturday 29 November in order to minimise the chance of rain, as generally the storms tend to be in the afternoon.
Last three mornings? Tropical downpours, and resultant very high humidity.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Very sad, Mr Curly. You are doing the right thing by involving your children. When Madame's father was dying, Dlet and his cousins were made aware very early and organised themselves into regular visits. Dlet could not drive but was always paired with someone who could. Bill greatly appreciated the visits; his mind by then was mostly on holiday but he still knew them all and was able to talk with reasonable coherence with them all.
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Yes, Gee D, it will be important for them. When I lost my first grandparent, we had just moved interstate 9 months earlier, and we had been very close to all grandparents. She had a stroke and dad managed to get back to see her but it was very remote for us.
They have been so blessed to even meet their grandmother. She was diagnosed 3 years before Biggest was born, so making 19 years of life, almost all in good health, has been fantastic.
The "kidney crisis" seems to have passed. This is a relief as Mrs Curly's brother and his wife (who has motor neuron disease) are currently cruising around NZ. For so many reasons we were dreading having to interrupt their trip.
mr curly
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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They have indeed been blessed - as she has in return.
You know, looking at this again, I have known Madame's mother for over 50 years now. And of her through others even longer. Not as well at first as when Madame and I finally got together after a dozen years of hiccups, but the length of time is amazing. And of course, Madame with my father in return for much the same period.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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We have had TP's mother with us for the last 10 days. It always amazes me that after nearly 60 years she still does not understand her eldest son at all, and wants him to be someone else entirely. Perhaps his curse is that he looks so much like her late husband. Anyway, I am looking forward to not being in mediation mode after tomorrow! Whew.
Posted by MrsBeaky (# 17663) on
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I'm coming to NZ in four weeks time...so exciting.
We're spending Christmas with our daughter, husband and little boy.
It's two years since I last visited and almost three for my husband.
Just not looking forward to the journey. I used to love flying but the thought of those long flights is a bit overwhelming.
Still it will be wonderful once I'm there-
Kiaora NZ
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Yay Mrs Beaky. Haere Mai (Welcome).
Good to have a chance to catch up with family too - children grow up so quickly - although it doesn't feel like it when you're a child.
Huia
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Huia:
Yay Mrs Beaky. Haere Mai (Welcome).
Good to have a chance to catch up with family too - children grow up so quickly - although it doesn't feel like it when you're a child.
Huia
The Grandad is trying to conceal his real sadness as the time comes for our lovely daughter and the adored kids to return to Canada. He's had so much health trauma/operations that he feels he may never see them again. I'll be just as sorry to say goodbye but I'm sure I'll make that long arduous flight to Canada next year. And of course they hope to come here again the year after.
I asked Miss Six what Grans and Grandads were for and she, with her arms locked around my neck said 'To love'.
Huia, are the reorganised bus timetables going to be to your advantage or disadvantage?
GG
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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GG "seeing you for the last time" haunted my mother too and I always felt that my father held on a few hours extra until I got there.
I've been through most of the information regarding the changes and they seem OK, apart from having to get to Church half an hour earlier on Sunday. Originally the plan was to cut out one of the routes that goes from the port to a local mall, but port workers lobbied successfully against that, which is good because my closest branch of the library is in that mall. Apart from that the 4 key routes have been assigned colours. I swear I had no influence in the decision to label the route I use most often as the "Purple Line" Buses are to be painted accordingly. This will make it easier to decide whether to run for a bus or amble up to the stop because passengers will be able to tell at a glance whether it is the one they want.
Huia
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Should anyone feel they might like to make reindeer tournedos with red wine and juniper berry butter for their Christmas lunch, please PM me and I will send recipe.
I bought a Finnish electric smoker last week and tried it out yesterday with salmon fillets which sons cooked. They did not take very long at all and were beautiful.
Smoker details in signature.
You can get juniper berries? I have been given a recipe for gin and tonic tart that calls for them.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
You can get juniper berries? I have been given a recipe for gin and tonic tart that calls for them
I shall ask my brother as I am sure he has bought them in the past. I was just quoting that I had a recipe using them from the smoker I bought.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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In the UK I am sure I bought a jar just from a supermarket spice section. Maybe you could substitute actual gin in the G&T tart?
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Vulpior,
I just did a bit of a search. It turned up this recipe.
If you look down recipe you will see a link to Ian selling juniper berries. 28 grams will cost you $5.20 and postage.
I used to buy herbs and seedlings from his mother at Somerset Cottage at Round Corner, Dural. I knew Ian and his wife and family but that was many years ago. My sister has a much closer association with them and knows them well and their property on Central coast here. He is a very pleasant person and runs the store in Darling St Rozelle and online.
[ 19. November 2014, 22:10: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Vulpior, have sent PM.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
... I always felt that my father held on a few hours extra until I got there ...
D's father most certainly did that. He'd been in hospital for about 18 months, having not properly recovered from what we thought was fairly routine surgery. We arrived on holiday to find that he'd taken a turn for the worse, and D. and his mum went to the hospital that morning. His dad sort of opened his eyes and D. thought he smiled, then closed them again. He died in the early hours of the next morning, and we were absolutely sure that he'd "waited" for D. to see him. It also meant that we were over there anyway, so didn't have to make an extra trip for the funeral.
Considerate to the very last.
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Sometimes I wonder if I am doing any good with my chaplain visits. But today an attractive young woman came up to me in the supermarket, shook my hand and thanked me for speaking to her at the hospital. I try to have the attitude that it is faithfulness to the task, and not outcomes, that are important, but these sort of things do raise the spirits.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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There should be no problem buying juniper berries. Madame used buy ours in a plastic bag on the spice rack at the greengrocer, but supermarkets and delis also sell them Vulpior if there are any problems for you, try the cookery supplies shop in Jardine St Kingston (ACT branch of a small chain) but look first in the supermarket around the corner - probably much cheaper there.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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A Solomon Islands priest is due to arrive here for a visit on Sunday evening - one of my former students. However, a slight problem - he has had a row with his wife, who has hidden his passport. God has a strange sense of humour.
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on
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I seem to recall several cases of Solomon Islands students at USP in Fiji whose paperwork was held up by SI bureaucratic processes (or sent to the the wrong island!) but were permitted to fly from Solomons and enter Fiji on the say so of "responsible" people at each end, subject to it being sorted out in the next few weeks. But Australian Immigration officials would be a tougher barrier than islanders, especially these days.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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A question for those theologically educated in Australia. It seems that theological/ministry qualifications are awarded by different groups eg Australian Theological College and the University of Divinity-are there others? I don't really understand these bodies-are they coalitions of tertiary institutions/theological colleges who combine to set curricula and exams etc? So if you attend Moore College in Sydney you get a degree from Aust Theological College or is it from Moore with some kind of endorsement from ATC?
Do the coalitions represent loose theological positions eg ATC is conservative? UofD less conservative/more catholic and Catholic?
Anyone?
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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I'll kick off and answer by at least saying that the examining bodies do not represent churchmanship positions ... some theological colleges are in bed with secular universities who have no theological bias at all. I'm not sure who examines Moore but in all other ways they are out on a limb. But the examining body is not always the teaching body ... which may represent some bias
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Thanks Zappa, I was just wondering how the whole thing worked as it seems odd-I'm used to secular unis where you enrol, do your course and get a degree from that institution. I don't understand who all these umbrella organisations are or what their purpose is
I have heard of Australian Theological College, which is the group with which Moore is affiliated. I thought that Sydney Missionary and Bible College is not unlike Moore and they are also ACT, which made me wonder if the different groups were theologically aligned.
Posted by The Silent Acolyte (# 1158) on
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I'm not sure if this is the right place, but
Oh my goodness, what a gracious place I've found Perth to be!
Posted by MrsBeaky (# 17663) on
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We have a link between our diocese here in Kenya and Perth- they are indeed very gracious
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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That's really lovely to hear TSA, I can't think of a better place to share that observation even if I live on the other side of the continent.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Anywhere and everywhere is the right place to tell of Perth's greatness!!
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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A completely unbiased view from Rexory.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Piglet:
A completely unbiased view from Rexory.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Here's a photo of Miss M and her big sister taken at Wollongong in early evening last Saturday after a very hot day.
I love the joy and exuberance which my son captured on his mobile.
She has not been to the beach in eleven months. Although the central line in her chest which had been there for ten months was removed, she had to wait till incision was completely healed.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Great to see them both so obviously enjoying themselves, Loth - long may it continue!
Posted by Uncle Pete (# 10422) on
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I wish I could take that joy and spread it around the news headlines. Bless them, their family and, especially, their Grandmother.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Loth, seeing that photo was a good way to start the day
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Pete:
I wish I could take that joy and spread it around the news headlines. Bless them, their family and, especially, their Grandmother.
Thank you, Uncle Pete. I get tears in my eyes just looking at that photo.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Without knowing the back story, I'd say it was two normal, healthy kids having fun at the beach. May the good health continue!
GG
(Ours have gone in a few days from fun in the waves in NZ to fun in the snow in BC)
Posted by Tukai (# 12960) on
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While nothing like as serious as Miss M's case, my own brief appearance at hospital last weekend did at least look dramatic. Mrs T took me into casualty looking like Dracula, with blood dripping from my mouth onto my while beard and thence to my clothes. This was a consequence of oral surgery earlier that week, from which the incision had re-opened. That was patched up after usual wait, but I'm not feeling quite right even yet.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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That sounds nasty and very uncomfortable, Tukai. I hope it is healing well now.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Not your everyday wedding. Not just drunk, but poisoned by alcohol.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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I do hope you had a good time GeeD!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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I know how to provide a good party.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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My house looks like a pop-up Christmas shop. I seem to have become the craft hub for several generations of creative recyclers. We are making things for some charity stalls in December so it will only get worse over the next fortnight. Poor TP!
Today four grandchildren are arriving to dress the biggest tree and no doubt it will be vastly entertaining for five minutes, and then the fun will begin. I still have not worked out how to discourage toddlers from taking everything within their reach off the tree and posting ornaments in interesting places. I suspect I will still be finding things come Easter. Hohoho
Posted by Uncle Pete (# 10422) on
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I would be thrilled by that thought. And laughs at Easter create family stories, especially if said toddlers grow into stodgy teens and adults.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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New Bishop is now consecrated and installed, no significant hitches, everyone seems very happy. First celebration of the Eucharist by him at the Cathedral this morning, in brand new Mitre & Cope with polished Crosier, again everything went well, the conclusion of the service being dancing led by the Bishop of the Torres Straits. One exhausted Dean finally home from the office, looking forward to a well earned Monday sleep in.
Thanks to God that everything went well, even the weather was as kind as it can be at this time of year.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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For the Diocese, the new Bishop and the very tired Dean. May the Advent Season proceed smoothly and the top End thrive in the New Year.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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What next! With just over a week left of school for her, Miss M fell at school and has broken her left wrist.now all plastered and in a sling. She couldn't get through her only school term this year without some extra drama.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Some confusion now. It appears thumb may also be involved but I don't know if that is in addition to wrist or instead of wrist. Bandage extends to elbow.
[ 01. December 2014, 07:47: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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With any of the possibilities, not a good end to the year.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Oh poor Miss M. That's the last thing she needed.
Prayers ascending.
Posted by Uncle Pete (# 10422) on
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What a head-banging way to end the year Loth. Prayers for the young lady.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Uncle Pete:
What a head-banging way to end the year Loth. Prayers for the young lady.
Turns out to be the thumb. At least she was well enough to be playing handball!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Yes, there is that.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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My son just sent a picture through of Miss M, no plaster or bandages, doing thumbs up with both hands. Perhaps there was too much swelling when she hurt it for a proper diagnosis.
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on
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Yay!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Excellent!
Meanwhile I'm off for dinner in the enemy camp.
*sigh*
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I feel for you Zappa, some of my enemies are pretty camp, too.
Posted by Dennis the Menace (# 11833) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I feel for you Zappa, some of my enemies are pretty camp, too.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Listening to DD on ABC Radio.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
... Miss M, no plaster or bandages, doing thumbs up with both hands ...
Excellent!
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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quote:
Originally posted by rexory:
Listening to DD on ABC Radio.
Hi Rexory, glad you caught it! Yes, the last big service of the year, the 40th Anniversary of Cyclone Tracy, broadcast nationally on ABC Local Radio. It was great to see the Cathedral packed, not with the usual suspects, but will all sorts of people from all over the City.
So, having now organised a consecration of a Bishop and then the Cyclone Tracy Remembrance service, the Cathedral Parish Council is giving me a week's rest. Blessing be upon them!
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Enjoy it while it lasts, DD - Christmas is just round the corner ...
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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/\
*chuckle*
I survived. Photos on my church FB page if you're interested ...
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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You look rather solemn in the photo of the four deans.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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So, Zappa, you've got rid of a Bishop and a Director of Music. Who's next in line? :-)
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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You've got rid of a Director of Music???
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Lovely man, Gary - I sang in the Cathedral Choir in my uni holidays back in the 1980s - and enjoyed the hospitality of him and his wife.
I think Zappa's attributing himself too much power...
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Originally posted by Piglet:
Enjoy it while it lasts, DD - Christmas is just round the corner ...
Christmas is very quiet up here - over a third of the population and half the congregation will have headed south to see the family!
Posted by Emendator Liturgia (# 17245) on
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This is a crosspost with Eccless, but wanted to add it here for our more immediate AU/NZ friends and colleagues.
OK, I know we are already at the 2nd Sunday in Advent - but today we blessed a new altar frontal, burse, veil, chasuble and stole for our little part of the kingdom in Granville (NSW, Aus.) Following new trends (and fortunately not having to worry about such things as authorized colours), ours are in a deep midnight blue, with even darker blue velvet orphreys, edged with silver. On the altar frontal and the ends of the stoles there appears the Advent/nativity star with the Southern Cross as part of the design. Will have pics up soon.
The vestments were made locally by Judith Couley of YJude Vestments (and thanks to BannerLady for suggesting her)- she did a marvelous job under very straining personal circumstances. Judith is very professional, which is why we already have a green altar frontal made by her. At Christmas we will have a new white frontal with a Chi Rho and Crown for the emblem. A passion red set has been designed for 2015, suitable for martyrs and passiontide. Will advise when pics for this are available.
Next week we will be blessing the dalmatics, tunicles and cope which will then complete the new set. Pics then! :-)
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Hello EL. Judith does excellent work, and it sounds like a stunning Altar Frontal. Oh, that we had such things in the deep north!
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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oh dear ... daughter unit's marriage appears to be busting up badly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Zappa:
oh dear ... daughter unit's marriage appears to be busting up badly
A particular type of pain and anguish, Zappa.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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for Zappa and daughter-unit.
Posted by Latchkey Kid (# 12444) on
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Thinking of you and your daughter, Zappa
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Zappa daughter-unit
Posted by Uncle Pete (# 10422) on
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Ah, Zaps! So sorry!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Adding our prayers for a swift resolution of the problems.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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I'm heading to Melbourne tonight, will find out more then. Zapplette # 6 described it as "messy" which is a fairly powerful adjective in her vocab.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Zappa – for all concerned – shalom
GG
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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Zappa
Mother-in-law passed away yesterday in hospital peacefully. Something of a relief. Memorial service won't be until next week.
Everyone seems OK, Mrs C has 2 weeks off work so is trying to stay calm in the midst of all the busyness. House guests seem likely next week, as father-in-law has sensibly decreed he won't be having any.
We've soldiered on through kids' presentation events this week. All got an award or two, and I find Biggest's "First in Music" and "Best AFL player" an amusing combo as he leaves this school.
I took Biggest for a meeting with the music department at his new college today. Seems he'll be playing piano for the Big Band - both an honour and a stretch for him. New Jazz piano tutor lined up.
There are many things like this that we have to keep doing at this busy time of year, so my job tomorrow is to check we haven't missed anything. At least we can now plan what can and can't be done.
mr curly
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Curly family
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Sorry to hear of your loss, Mr. Curly.
for you, your family and the soul of your mother-in-law.
Rest eternal grant unto her, O Lord, and let light perpetual shine upon her.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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So sorry to hear this news. Prayers for you and the family .
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Prayers for Zappa and his daughter and son-in-law
Prayers for the Curly ones and the repose of the soul of Mr Curly's mother-in-law
Prayers for all those who are anticipating being lonely or bereaved this Christmas.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Mr Curly, May your MIL rest in peace and rise in the glory of our Lord. Prayers also for those who mourn, that they may find comfort.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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For the curly family
GG
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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For all the Curly family.
Posted by Dark Knight (# 9415) on
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for the families of Zappa and Mr Curly.
Please feel free to reach out if I can help in any way. My thoughts and prayers continue with you.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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for Mr Curly & family.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Gee D and any others who may be in Sydney CBD...Hope you are all OK.
Dozens upon dozens of emergency vehicles racing along road outside to siege in Lindt cafe. If they can't get through intersection outside, they use the footpath.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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We have not seen her in a long time on the Ship, but Seraphim Duo's chambers are just around the corner from here as well.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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for the people of Sydney. Hope those of you on board here are all safe and well.
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on
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Ugh. So revolting that anyone would do this.
Sincere prayers that everyone ends up physically unharmed. And I do mean everyone, including those who should go to jail for a very long time afterwards.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Chambers down opposite the Court near SJKS have been locked down as has the Court. People known to us there!
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Cowardly, pointless thing to do, Sydney, let's not be afraid and let;s not give them the air time.
Posted by Mili (# 3254) on
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Praying it all ends well. So sickening. My youngest brother lives and studies in Sydney but not that area. I have contacted him and he and his partner are safely far away from the scene. Some of my Dad's cousins live there too. Praying for all.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you all for your thoughts. I am OK, having been in chambers around 7.15. I don't know what will be happening later on, but imagine we could easily get to Town Hall station via King St if Martin Place is still closed. The clerk's trying to find out. After a lot of talking, the matter I had for hearing today has settled, so although my solicitor and our client are unable to leave yet, the lock down in the court is not affecting me directly.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Good to hear from you, Gee D.
My thoughts too Evangeline.
Posted by Wesley J (# 6075) on
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for all involved in the Sydney cafe siege.
Posted by bib (# 13074) on
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Found myself saying Psalm 23 over and over in response to what has happened.
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on
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2:15 am. I just happened to look at the television a few minutes ago to see what was happening, and there was a sudden burst of hostages leaving, followed only a few minutes later by police storming the cafe and firing into it.
Exactly what has happened, we will find out eventually...
EDIT: It very much looks like CPR is being performed on someone.
[ 15. December 2014, 14:20: Message edited by: orfeo ]
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on
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One of the 3 television stations currently reporting on this - the one whose studios are directly across from the cafe - is saying that there are 2 deaths. The other stations, which do have reporters nearby, have not stated this.
Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on
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Lord have mercy
Posted by Patdys (# 9397) on
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#Illridewithyou
In the midst of darkness, hope.
[Sigh] Back to writing [end sigh]
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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I was relieved to see a post on Facebook from a Northern Irish friend who works as a lawyer in Sydney, saying that although her office was locked-down, she's safe and well.
for those involved and for the souls of the hostages who were killed.
Posted by jugular (# 4174) on
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Ghastly morning in Sydney.
In other news, my local ABC radio station is looking for some international voices to do a short message about Christmas, their traditions, and say Merry Christmas. If anyone has an (English-speaking) suggestion, particularly a non-Anglican one, I'd love to hear about it. PM me?
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Originally posted by Patdys:
#Illridewithyou
In the midst of darkness, hope.
I cried when I heard about that. It reminded me of the man leaving the Twin Towers on 9/11 who expressed the hope that that the act woild not lead to war.
Prayers for all affected.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Patdys:
#Illridewithyou
In the midst of darkness, hope.
[Sigh] Back to writing [end sigh]
Son and I met a young Muslim couple living several apartments down from us. They were fitting a security screen door which we are considering. Both were young but the wife was tiny, young and shy. She wore hijab. She would speak to me but not my son.
The door looks great. I am going to write a short note, complimenting him on the installation. Just my version of walking with them.
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on
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for all victims of the Sydney café siege.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Siege: horrid. Has affected everyone in some way. What has just gone down in Pakistan is also horrid. And evil. Although I expect it will be a media blip compared to the Sydney post-mortem going on, and on, and on. Nor do I expect we will ever be told what really happened when the shots were fired.
The muslim community leader who works alongside my daughter did not go into work yesterday - many did not for fear of reprisals. How sad. And evidence that despite the NSW premier's hyperbole that EVERYONE in NSW stands alongside one another in support, this is patently not so.
I guess I will always remember December 15 now for reasons other than it is our wedding anniversary. But I will be buying Lindt chocolate for Christmas presents this year. My way of riding alongside.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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I actually think there has been a really positive swell in community "togetherness" and the fear of reprisals is the same as fear of terrorism-it's giving in to the divisiveness of terrorism and it is much over-stated. I doubt there is a woman in Sydney who hasn't been harrased on public transport-let's say no to ALL of this. I've also been hissed at by 2 women wearing niqab, as I walked down the centre of Melbourne. Let's all ride together against harassment of women and stand strong against violence and creating "otherness'.
The best comment I have heard was from a Muslim community leader who said "Any fool (that's my paraphrase as I can't remember his exact words) can spend $10 on a flag with Islamic writing and get a world stage" SO TRUE, let's keep this in perspective, 1 idiot with a gun representing only his own delusional wickedness.
That siege had little to do with terrorism and everything to do with a disturbed individual with a loooonnng criminal history -unrelated to terrorism feeling he had little to lose. ,We are told our freedoms are being eroded in a climate of politically-motivated fear and yet this person, who wrote abusive letters to soldiers' families, has over 40 charges for indecent and sexual assault was free ON BAIL despite being charged as an accessory to the murder of his wife. We'd be quick to castigate the Police or politicians for a stuff-up that led to death and injury, I'm looking at that judge who decided the individual in question posed no threat to society and should be free on bail.
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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A very sad week. People just going around their usual day and then that. I barely knew Katrina Dawson, but she did have a good reputation in her area - probably silk in a few more years.
Fortunately I was able to work from home yesterday and again today - back in to the city tomorrow. I am not looking forward to walking up Martin Place.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Is it possible to get train to St James and walk along that way? Not a vast improvement but not directly past Lindt?
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Thank you Lothlorien, but to travel to St James would mean a change at either Central or Town Hall, then a trip around and the walk along that unpleasant tunnel. I could have simply walked from Town Hall, as it's not far, but did my usual - off at Wynyard, and then the walk up Martin Place. It's wonderful to see so many flowers there - piled high and getting seemingly higher by the minute.
I was fortunate that the matter I had for the beginning of the week settled, and my client has the result this year; and that I was able to do a couple of days work at home.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Not a pleasant tunnel, as you say.
My sister left flowers yesterday from her daughter and her. She is house sitting at Richmond and unaccustomed to the trains, especially from somewhere like that. She said she just had to go. Took her most of the day to get in and back, when combined with waiting to place them.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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I had to collect some goods from a church in Yarralumla today for a charity stall. Usually the grounds of the Arabian Embassy on the same street are devoid of anything except the enormous satellite dish in it, but today the perimeter was swarming with armed guards. No idea why. Any theories?
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Perhaps a cautionary measure after Monday?
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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The end of the year, finishing today around 3.20. I shall come in next Monday and perhaps Tuesday to attend to a few matters, but no more appearances (barring some emergency). Madame is meeting me in the city for a quiet dinner to celebrate. No closer to deciding how and when to retire, alas, as we continue to work through choices for Madame's business.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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A truly ghastly week. Sydney, and now the children in Cairns. Lord have mercy.
Also this week, my mother has been diagnosed with cancer. The outlook is not at all good, so booked on the Christmas Eve flight to Sydney. Blessings upon Fr John for looking after the Christmas services at relatively short notice, and blessings upon all at RNSH for their care of mum, and my sister for being such a stalwart.
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Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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for all concerned.
Australia doesn't often make world-wide headlines* - how awful that it should happen twice in a week in such tragic circumstances.
* except in cricket and rugby, obviously.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Miss M's counts were down a fortnight ago, so maintenance chemo was tweaked. Down again now and she may be back in hospital over Christmas.
for all the other nastiness down here right now too.
Posted by Uncle Pete (# 10422) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Miss M's counts were down a fortnight ago, so maintenance chemo was tweaked. Down again now and she may be back in hospital over Christmas.
for all the other nastiness down here right now too.
Oh, Lord, watch Miss M, and keep her safe from harm. Sending hugs and prayers,
What a sad, sad event in Cairns.
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Cairns, just unspeakable.
For Miss M.
For DD's Mum, DD and his family.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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What Evangeline said.
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on
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As a sports fan, Australia is often on my mind, but recent events have altered that.
Australia and all her people.
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Mum's condition has deteriorated badly, and I have flown down from Darwin today. The Saturday before Christmas is the busiest day of the year for leaving Darwin, and only one ticket was left among the three airlines ($1050 economy!).
Anyway, down here now, and will have to wait and see what happens in the next couple of days. The doctors (correctly) have decided that their treatment will be palliative rather than aggressive.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Been there, DD, and although it is 25/26 years ago the memories are just as strong as they were the day it happened.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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for D and his mother
and That any news from Australia this week may be of peaceful and joyful happenings.
GG
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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DD
It was nice to see some of Carols in the Domain (In Sydney) on the television last night-I would have liked to have been there but a lingering illness prevented it. A happy crowd whose spirits were undiminished, lots of traditional carols, money being raised for the Salvos, (a whack of promotion for Disney, but watchya gunna do). The Premier and Governor in attendance. Nice!
I often find Peter Fitzsimmons stuff banal but I think he's done a really good job with this, Sydney passes the test. web page
[link corrected - WW]
[ 21. December 2014, 01:35: Message edited by: Welease Woderwick ]
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Prayers from us for your mother, you, and the rest of your family DD. It is not an easy time at all. Also for Miss M.
It's a beautiful Mid-Summer's Day here. We were up a bit after 6, walking Dog and enjoying the air being cool before a warm day. Summer really is here after a terrible week.
[ 20. December 2014, 20:42: Message edited by: Gee D ]
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Prayers continuing for you and your mum, DD, and also for Miss M.
Posted by anglicanrascal (# 3412) on
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G'day all. I've been lurking for a couple of days and thought I would pop my head in and say hello.
Hope the Joyous Season isn't destroying too many of you out there!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Originally posted by anglicanrascal:
G'day all. I've been lurking for a couple of days and thought I would pop my head in and say hello.
Hope the Joyous Season isn't destroying too many of you out there!
Welcome. Christmas is that time of year when we believe all is sweetness and light. Not necessarily so.
Hospital oncologists are very optimistic that Miss M's T cell count will return to better levels. She is not yet an in- patient and we hope the improvement continues.
Gee D, mmy brother must have missed hearing when we told the rest of family on Saturday. He now knows.
Prayers DD for your mum and your family and also for Mr Curly's family in their bereavement too.
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Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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FWIW the "corrected" by admin link in my post above wasn't the one I linked to.
I posted a link to "Sydney ditches cynicism for empathy" which I believe can be found here -works for me anyway. web page
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Sorry about that Evangeline but your original link wouldn't work for me at all so I searched the smh site and thought I'd got the right one.
Apologies.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Lord I'm tired. But the possibility of losing someone you love at this time of year puts everything in perspective. My prayers too for DD, and Loth - I hope Miss M will bounce back enough for the whole family to enjoy Christmas with her.
My Mum gave me a scare last week with a fall and several days in a wheelchair. Fortunately she is a very determined lady and decided she hated waiting around to be pushed by carers so much that she is now back on her feet. A bit wobbly, but upright despite the pain in her legs. God alone knows if this is the last Christmas she'll see.
Christmas is a bit of a whirlwind with a Christmas Eve dinner for 17 at B2's, serving at midnight mass, a Christmas morning service at the nursing home, then 8 for Christmas lunch and a Boxing Day family picnic in the nursing home rose garden. No idea whether there will be more dramas along the way - there's enough to do without thinking about such probabilities.
So guess what's the only thing on my Christmas list this year for me? Sleep. Lots of it!
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Thanks for the prayers, BL. She has been sailing along so smoothly that the major drop in T cell levels rattled us all. They are not as low as a few days ago, but still too low.
After Christmas lunch, go into your room and leave instructions you are not to be disturbed. Everyone else is to clean up.
[ 22. December 2014, 19:22: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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The fact that the Curly Mobile is having its brakes fixed and may or may not be ready before Christmas has pushed us close to the edge. Supposed to be leaving for a week in Thredbo on Saturday, but the five of us travelling in the available alternative transport - a Corolla station wagon - is not looking like a lot of fun.
Mr and Mrs Curly Snr have just dropped in empty handed expecting lunch. I'm going for a swim and leaving them to it.
Mrs Curly is supposed to be shopping, but has been caught up at Church kids club with a kid with a finger stuck in a bauble. (she only went there because Biggest forgot to take his guitar.) Honestly.
I have made the "vegetarian" turducken (stuffed butternut pumpkin) ready to cook on Thursday, so the day isn't a total write-off.
[insert maniacal laughter here.]
mr curly
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Two sons and two children, perhaps one more, are going to ski lodge at Charlotte Pass on Friday for a week. One has been several times and a second cousin manages lodge over summer. They are looking forward to no mobile coverage. Miss 14 does not know about this.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Just had two aftershocks. the first was moderate (magnitude 4) and the second was smaller. I'm not feeling happy as I can't find my torch.
I swear I will get my act together and sort out an emergency kit again.
I know they will keep happening, but it's still a shock when they do.
Huia
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Have just heard that Miss M's counts have come up enough to allow her to be out of hospital over Christmas. We are all very thankful.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Loth, that's great.
Posted by rexory (# 4708) on
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Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Have just heard that Miss M's counts have come up enough to allow her to be out of hospital over Christmas. We are all very thankful.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Huia, for you and all the people of Christchurch.
Loth, that's excellent news - long may it continue.
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Happy Christmas everyone.
Either it was a quiet night, or I slept through any shaky bits. 26c forecast here today.
I'm off to church, then to a friend's place for the day.
Hoping the Curly's have their car fixed for travel.
Huia
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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The Curly Mobile is back in action and ready for departure on Saturday. The VISA card, on the other hand, did not need that extraneous grand on it this week.
We had a great evening at the Christmas Eve kids musical/service last night. Biggest played guitar in the band, Middle was a Christmas tree and Little Miss had a big speaking part as an angel/narrator. All are playing brass in this morning's service. There will be a six piece brass section, all kids, known as The Horns of Jericho.
Have a great day, everyone!
mr curly
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Christmas greetings to all. In haste – must get to church early as I bring Baby Jesus aka Barbara, life size sleeping doll aged 77.
GG
Posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom (# 3434) on
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Happy Christmas all.
25 degrees here already at 9am - we've been out for a walk and said hello to lots of people, agreeing that its going to be a scorcher!
Posted by Gee D (# 13815) on
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Happy Christmas to all. We had the usual magnificent midnight Eucharist last night, the choir singing some of the Missa Aeterna by Palestrina, and our normal setting for others. Now up and about, gifts exchanged and enjoying a good cup of tea, peacefully watching the grass grow.
That's not good news Huia, and prayers for you in the uncertainty of it all. We are glad that Miss M was able to stay home at least for last night, and wake with her family not in an impersonal hospital ward.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Unless she sickens or gets an infection,she has a fortnight not in hospital. We are very thankful.
Beautiful morning on central coast at son's place. Light breeze,sunshine, sparkling water on Brisbane Water. Croissants and bubbly being prepared by Master 9 who is a dab hand at slicing ham well. We all believe here in teaching children how to cook and help in kitchen.
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Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:
... 25 degrees here already at 9am ...
This northerly little piglet can't get her head around the idea of Christmas in temperatures like that. Come to think of it, I can't get my head round the idea of anything in temperatures like that ...
I'm just messing around here while waiting to go and sing at the Midnight Mass - hope you're all having a wonderful day.
Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom:
Happy Christmas all.
25 degrees here already at 9am - we've been out for a walk and said hello to lots of people, agreeing that its going to be a scorcher!
In Darwin I would have thought that was a chilly start to the day at this time of the year ...
Posted by MSHB (# 9228) on
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Merry Christmas from Sydney's southern edges.
6pm - 23 degrees, and raining solidly (thunderstorm)
Posted by Rowen (# 1194) on
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Mild day, grey skies, happy hearts....
A lovely day! Friends staying with me. A great church service. Brunch at home. Good gifts. . And now we are all at the beach, with other friends, and oh! I am on vacation, we are drinking good wine, eating yummy food.....
Hope your day was equally great,
Posted by DangerousDeacon (# 10582) on
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Sadly not in Darwin - midnight mass at the church where I did my ordination training, a couple of visits to the hospital to see mum, and a fairly subdued Christmas lunch with Dad and the family to discuss palliative care options. Hope to head back to the Top End on NYE.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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Christmas greetings from the mild and showery capitol. At least we have not had to worry about bushfire warnings this year, although the smell of smoke from the fires around Yass was very prominent until yesterday.
The chaos that is Christmas has abated a little. Having 6 of 7 cousins together was lovely. Some positive signs of better understandings has happened cross generationally - the miracle of Christmas!
Midnight service was lovely with MM directing the choir at The Church With the Pond. Silent Night sung in German for the first verse was delightful, as was the Vivaldi recessional.
BL as liturgical assistant for the first time at a big service there did not stuff up despite being stupidly tired. I therefore slept extremely well afterwards, and survived another service and three Christmas Day family functions okay - although I was wishing I'd put a Cone of Silence on my Christmas list by the end.
At one point I turned to TP and said "What have we started?"
He raised an eyebrow and replied that he hoped I realised it was only going to get larger each year, as each of our girls establish their own households and traditions.
Note to self: improve stamina by next year!
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Banner Lady:
At one point I turned to TP and said "What have we started?"
He raised an eyebrow and replied that he hoped I realised it was only going to get larger each year, as each of our girls establish their own households and traditions.
Note to self: improve stamina by next year!
Believe me – there comes a time when the next generation takes over the organisation/catering. One of life's great milestones.
GG
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Not only the organisation and catering, although I have contributed to that this year, but also the cleaning up and stashing away of leftovers.
Last night, two sons and five gandchildren were here. One son did roast pork with all the trimmings. However, the intergenerational thing kicked in and eldest grandson washed up while youngest wiped. Fifteen, almost sixteen and just nine.
This is the first place I have lived in for forty years or so which does not have a dishwasher.
[ 25. December 2014, 20:37: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
Posted by Arleigh (# 5332) on
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That's what's been happening at our place for the last few years (ever since our girls moved in next door) and it's been blissful.
Now, to Boxing Day with the extended family - after our snooze-and-no-booze Christmas Day, this will be the part-ay.
Hope all Aussie Shipmates had a peaceful Christmas Day (with a shout-out to Brizmates, now scattered far & wide).
♥Arleigh
(ETA: reply to GG about the next generation taking over)
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Posted by Zappa (# 8433) on
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Mary Chrysanthemums to y'all ... some sanity returning to a kuru-zappa household after an exhausting few days. I watched Dr Who for most of the day, walked the dogs en famille, then watched Top Gear.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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A nice touch at the Christmas Day service. A small packet marked "for Baby Jesus" was found by the manger. The (visiting) minister asked the children what might be a suitable gift. Sure enough, it was what we oldies knew as a stretch-and-gro (baby onesie? – which he then handed to Madeleine, whose first child is due next week.
GG
Posted by Mr Curly (# 5518) on
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The Turducken was good, the "vege turducken" was better, the twin Bombe Alaskas (Bombes Alaska?) sublime. Offspring played brass in a 10 piece band in the 9 am service.
Christmas - Tick.
We're on the road today, heading south to Thredbo for a week with a large family group staying in a ski lodge. Let there be relaxing.
Best wished to all
mr curly
Posted by anglicanrascal (# 3412) on
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Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
Christmas greetings to all. In haste – must get to church early as I bring Baby Jesus aka Barbara, life size sleeping doll aged 77.
GG
Happy Christmas to all. I ended up having to buy a Baby Jesus on Christmas Eve. The first one I picked up in the shops I discovered was a weeing, crying, talking one. Decided the chances of that going wrong was slightly too high… so ended up with some other ugly doll. Luckily it wasn't so ugly that it made the Virgin Mary cry in the Nativity Play.
I also have a quiz for you. If you were the organist and decided to have a vicious power-play with the effective music director on any day of the year which would you choose:
1. Any other holy day of the year when it wouldn't matter so much and when there might be time to resolve things; or
2. Christmas Day, the day when we sing about peace and hope and joy and 'God and sinners reconciled' through the miracle of the incarnation?
Posted by Evangeline (# 7002) on
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Hope the day wasn't too traumatic Anglican Rascal. Of course one has to choose a high stakes day to make your point with a power play. Here's hoping things are resolved by Easter
Posted by Vulpior (# 12744) on
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Best wishes to all for the new year. This morning I packed up and froze all remaining turkey meat, stuffing, spiced beef and turkey stock. We will be going to a friend's to see in 2015 and then heading to Sydney for a few days.
If you see two people walking between Bradley's Head and Manly (or vice versa; haven't decided which way yet), one taller and keen, the other shorter and grumbling, then it could be us. Alternatively we will be at the sales or hunting out gelato.
Hopefully to the Railway Mission for High Mass on Sunday morning.
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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Gelato? The best in the world, according to competition results, comes from Cow and Moon, halfway up Enmore Road Newtown. It's a while since I had gelato there, but it is very good. Coffee also is excellent. Up from Enmore Theatre and on other side of road.
Then adjourn for lunch over the road to Sultan's Table. Good cheap food and great service. I've been there many times and service has always been pleasant and prompt. Great dips. Get a mixed platter, some chicken and perhaps lamb. BYO or buy at pub bottle shop. A couple in immediate vicinity.
Posted by Banner Lady (# 10505) on
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It may be a bit early for an epiphany, but I came to the blessed realisation late this morning that while Christmass may be completely OTT for the next few years, New Year's Eve will be delightfully quiet, as no progeny I know would ever desire to spend it with their fast getting Aged Parents.
And indeed they all have plans, for which I heartily thank Disco Jesus. I am also grateful to B4 for introducing me to this manifestation of the Lord of Light. The Disco Jesus Christmas card is my favourite, and I suspect it may have to be on display all year. Yay for Disco Jesus!
And may we all transition into better things in 2015. I believe in miracles (ear worming a disco beat).
Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on
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I am also looking forward to a quiet evening. Two sons at Charlotte Pass and the other at Picton. I can see the fireworks from my balcony with a better view of bridge from roof garden but may well be asleep by then.
This week has been blissfully quiet and I have been recharging my batteries after a week of minding grandchildren on Central Coast and other sundry noisy matters.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Very quiet here, but keeping tabs on Son and his acquired teenage family via DiL's facebook page. It is really cool to have the next generation enjoying the Happy Place at Matarangi, acquired 28 years ago. Even the younger family from Canada love 'Gran and Grandad's beach house', especially living inland as they do.
Current post indicates that Son and 13-year-old went snorkelling after which Son required stitches following an encounter involving a stingray and a log.
GG
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Ouch!
The first live concert since the 2011 quake is taking place in the Square tonight. I'm glad it's happening, but very relieved not to be there. I don't like crowds or loud noises.
No doubt one of the neighbours will let off some crackers at midnight.
Huia
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Heck, I was prepared for a few bangs, but it sounds like the Battle of the Somme out there.
Happy New Year everyone.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Happy New Year!
In keeping with Ship tradition old regional threads die on the last of the year and then new threads appear when anyone so minded starts the next.
I'll miss this thread but I'm sure a sooper-dooper new thread will soon takes its place.
Go to it, Shipmates.
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