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Posted by moron (# 206) on
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Long suffering readers will recall a similar thread about TV shows in which Erin came up with one of the best posts ever, IMNSHO. But enough name dropping.
Today I'll go with the Eagles who, after a sabbatical, came back and came up with _Get Over It_ which I will not link to to spare the hosts.
There may be other opinions.
Posted by Brenda Clough (# 18061) on
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I'll go with a classic. Bruce Springsteen.
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on
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The Eagles? They barely register as rock really.
In terms of music, I think Led Zep have to be rated up there. They made some fantastically rocking music.
In terms of performance power, GnR surely - they are performers, and they are good at it. I am ambivalent about some of their music, but they put on a show. Or did, before Slash left - no idea now.
For art rock, I think it is hard to bear Genesis, at least pre-abacab. Or for pretentious student rock, Pink Floyd.
And that is not even starting on the metal bands - Mastadon are producing fantastic stuff with their latest album. Listen to Soused by Scott Walker and Sunn O to see what fantastic a-temporal drone music is about.
So what do you mean by the best ever?????
Posted by Lord Jestocost (# 12909) on
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
For art rock, I think it is hard to bear Genesis, at least pre-abacab. Or for pretentious student rock, Pink Floyd.
Did you mean to say "bear", or, from the context, "beat"? Either way you'll probably get a lot of agreement ...
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on
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Sorry everyone, but The Groundhogs are the original and the best. The only excuse for not rating them is that you haven't heard them. Split is one of the great LPs of all time.
I like early Alice Cooper too. There's hardly a weak track on Love it to Death or School's Out.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Steely Dan. Ok, their lyics usually revolve around drugs, perverts, and more drugs, but the seamless, organic flow of their intrumentation combined with their creative (if tawdry) lyric craft makes them stand apart.
Dr. Wu is perhaps one of the best rock songs ever written. Certainly the most gorgeous piano arrangement I have ever heard.
Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on
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This is a really hard question. The problem is what does "best" mean. In terms of influence it is the Beatles. In terms of longevity,the Rolling Stones. God help us, but I think Abba is considered to have sold the most.
In terms of straight rock, I'd probably go with Cream. In terms of talent and amusement I'd go with Queen. In terms of feeling pretty good about Winnipeg (which is difficult), it's The Guess Who. In terms of just having fun, Doobie Brothers. To party with someone special in the 1970s, the Steve Miller Band. The list goes on.
Posted by Snags (# 15351) on
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Never mind defining "best" first you have to define "rock", and that will start more fights than the Monty Hall problem in a pub.
Anyway, the answer is clearly the one that I'm going to form tomorrow. Perpetually.
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
For art rock, I think it is hard to bear Genesis, at least pre-abacab.
Amen. Nowhere near enough fans on the Ship.
(Aiming to Carpet Crawlers on 12-string at open mike night tonight, but boy did Gabriel have a big range!)
(# it's only knock and know-all, but I like it #)
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on
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Yes I did mean "hard to beat Genesis".
I think some people reckon anything after Gabriel left isn't worth it, and others have only heard their later stuff, which is pleasant, but not great. Songs like Ripples and albums like And Then There Were Three are still stunning pieces of work.
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
For art rock, I think it is hard to bear Genesis, at least pre-abacab.
Amen. Nowhere near enough fans on the Ship.
(Aiming to Carpet Crawlers on 12-string at open mike night tonight, but boy did Gabriel have a big range!)
(# it's only knock and know-all, but I like it #)
Nice. Good luck, Eutychus.
Another Genesis fan here, amongst other things. Always suspicious of questions about best anything ever, but from recent times, I'm partial to Queens of the Stone age.
Posted by Ikkyu (# 15207) on
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For Prog:
I also love Genesis with Gabriel. And some of the
early post Gabriel work.
For Classic
The Beatles, The Who
For Punk
The Clash, Fugazi,Bad Brains
Heavy
Black Sabbath
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Songs like Ripples.
I'd really like to do that too, but a) the top note is really seriously high and b) you can't do the instrumental part solo!
I've done Back in NYC after finding a manageable acoustic version and changing keys. Genesis are not the easiest band for a guitarist to cover.
I went to see them a couple of times in the Duke/Abacab era and they were the best band I've ever seen live (quietest: Whitesnake! loudest: Wishbone Ash; most disappointing: Siouxie and the Banshees).
I've also seen tribute band The Musical Box do the Selling England tour and the Lamb. They use the original set materials and aim to reproduce a historical concert exactly, down to word-for-word talk between numbers. I knew they would be good from the first chord of Watcher of the Skies - it was like being in 1973!
There is a part in Cinema Show which live is just 'Collins', 'Rutherford' and 'Banks' - I'd never realised before it was just three people and the richness of sound from those three, for the time, was amazing.
Posted by moron (# 206) on
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I thought about fleshing this out myself but why should I bother?
Welcome to the forum ship of fools!
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on
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The thing is, Genesis, in that period (when I got to see their Christmas show at the NEC on 4 hours notice), were the best live band around. I think the technologies have advanced so much since then that there are better, but for their time, they were amazing.
If you are taking MoR music, then for memorable tunes, I think Fleetwood Mac should get a look in. How many people don't know The Chain, even if they can't name it? the rest of the Rumours album is also very well known, very memorable, and brilliant. Albatross still sounds good today, despite being almost as old as me.
So what criteria should you put? U2 have been together and successful for over half the history of contemporary music, and have adjusted their style over time. Sunday Bloody Sunday is still brilliant. As is Beautiful Day.
When you go to individuals and their backing group - who are still bands, but with a focus on an individual - Jimi Hendrix and Gary Moore have to feature. There is no-one who can play like Jimi could. But how can you compare them to the likes of ELP?
Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on
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Neither Genesis nor U2 are on my list. Just a little too earnest. GnR, nope, not for people beyond a particular age.
Dire Straits? Knoffler the axe man.
Some groups had excellent albums and then not so much. Anyone recall Nazareth? Had them on 8-track. When this thread goes Bay City Rollers we'll know we're done.
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Anyone recall Nazareth?
Yes, I have My White Bicycle somewhere around here. But I only recently discovered it was about heroin. In fact it's hard to find a single from that era that's not actually about hard drugs...
Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
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Anyone recall Nazareth?
Yes, I have My White Bicycle somewhere around here. But I only recently discovered it was about heroin. In fact it's hard to find a single from that era that's not actually about hard drugs...
You missed the ones about sex and love and drinking?
Love Hurts
Hair of the Dog
This Flight Tonight
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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"Love Hurts" was of course originally recorded by the Everly Brothers fully 15 years earlier. It probably wasn't about whatever was in vogue in 1975.
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
The Eagles? They barely register as rock really.
In terms of music, I think Led Zep have to be rated up there.
If you're going to play the genre precision game, much if not most of what they did in their heyday (LZI thru IV) was blues. Rocking blues. But blues.
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Steely Dan. Ok, their lyics usually revolve around drugs, perverts, and more drugs
And condoms.
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Dr. Wu is perhaps one of the best rock songs ever written. Certainly the most gorgeous piano arrangement I have ever heard.
I'd say this is far from their best song. Everything on Aja beats it.
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
For art rock, I think it is hard to bear Genesis, at least pre-abacab.
Amen. Nowhere near enough fans on the Ship.
Puhleeze. In a world with Yes and the Moody Blues, you pick Genesis? "Hard to bear" is right.
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
U2 have been together and successful for over half the history of contemporary music
What exactly does that mean, "contemporary music"? All music is contemporary at the time it's made.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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I thought of Aja (just the track) but Dr Wu won out-- the piano just sends me. My all time favorite push-repeat- repeatedly jam is Show Biz Kids, and Time out of mind is absolute sex, but for me Dr Wu has all the elements that make me a Steely Dan fan.
Of course, you can sway my opinion by playing Gaucho (best story) or Sign in, Stranger (my favorite lyrics and harmony). but really, they make it hard to pick a favorite.
and Any World that I'm Welcome to is my theme song.
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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Any major dude with half a heart surely would tell you that "Deacon Blues" is their best slow drag.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Not for me. Gaucho. Nothing against Deacon Blues, but it gets totally overplayed on the rock stations around here.
[ETA NO! so wrong! Pretzel Logic! ]
Joe Jackson is a big SD fan and did an absolutely kickass cover of Major Dude on solo piano. Youtube it.
[ 06. December 2014, 04:42: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]
Posted by churchgeek (# 5557) on
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I can't even begin to imagine who the best rock band is. But as far as the rock band I love the most, am most likely to want to listen to, it's Joy Division. After that, His Name Is Alive, if you count them as rock. (I'm not good with categories, really.)
As far as punk goes, the only punk band I ever liked was the Clash, and they've held up really well. They're pretty good rock'n'roll, never mind the sub-genres.
Posted by la vie en rouge (# 10688) on
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I'm a Queen fan and not ashamed to admit it.
For cheesy over-the-top big-haired 80s fun, I find Def Leppard good value for money.
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Originally posted by mousethief:
And condoms.
Surely you mean dildos? quote:
Puhleeze. In a world with Yes and the Moody Blues, you pick Genesis?
Yes (i.e.: affirmative). I was disappointed by Yes (admittedly post-Anderson) in concert, and while the traditional lineup are/were all very accomplished musicians, I don't think the group sound is so consistently good. Perhaps we can agree on Bill Bruford, who played in both bands? My album knowledge of the Moody Blues extends only to A question of balance and I'm content to let it stay there.
Posted by Rosa Winkel (# 11424) on
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As has been pointed out, rock can mean many things. I remember being exited when a Virgin Rock radio station started, when in fact I liked about 2% of what they played, what with them playing the likes of that bloody "life is life" song, or Foreigner.
Mention of Black Sabbath here prompts me to say that I think of them, originally, as a blues band. They are considered to be metal, of course, but metal itself was an offshoot of blues until, I would argue, Judas Priests "British steel" moved themselves and metal in general away from blues, with the NWOBHM marking a clean break.
Certainly, a band I deffo class as rock and one I love is AC/DC, whose music includes a lot of blues numbers. Other bands commonly called heavy metal but I consider to be rock, such as Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin, also were massively blues influenced. (Interestingly, Iron Maiden, the pinicle of evolution, don't look to punk bands for their inspiration, as many assume of NWOBHM bands, but the likes of Free.)
Still, Iron Maiden have done rock songs (the dreadful "Bring your daughter...", for example), and Metallica's "Load" album was comprised of rock (and rock/blues) songs.
Prog rock fans may like "Hocus Pocus" by Focus (a song the Maiden have covered).
Many words, little sense, as one says in German. My conclusion is that rock and metal is rooted in blues, Black music. (Furthermore, the leather and studs imagery of heavy metal started with Rob Halford of Judas Priest, who had picked up the look from gay clubs. In other words, the now very white and heterosexual* heavy metal has Black and gay roots. * I wonder about class. Is heavy metal working-class? Black Sabbath, the godfathers of metal, of course were).
Posted by Mudfrog (# 8116) on
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Queen. Every time.
Some bands play the same kind of stuff, wear the same clothes, style their hair the same way - and they never progress or develop.
Listen to Queen and you'll find prog rock to rockabilly, heavy metal to synth pop, beautiful ballads to vaudeville, jazz to punk.
You'll find intelligence and triviality, you'll find pomposity and overdubs through to piano chords and a single heartrending voice.
Film music, stadium music through to unplugged singalongs, science fiction to protest, raw sex and almost Christian spirituality, gay through to macho raunchiness. And loads of tongue in cheek humour.
Bohemian Rhapsody is number one every time.
Did I mention I was a Queen fan?
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on
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Actually, Yes did do some great music too. And some rubbish.
It used to be a fairly clear division between Rock, pop, metal, blues, prog etc. While some bands would draw influences from different places, they tended to fit into one or other primary category - Led Zep, for example, while they drew from blues, were clearly rock, but influenced metal.
These days, most bands draw from so many roots, we have an explosion of genres. So it matters if you like Goth Ambient Death Metal rather than Ambient Black Death Metal, even though, to the uninitiated, they might sound the same. So many bands cross genres, that it becomes difficult to make any real comparisons. And many music fans - like myself - enjoy a range of different musical styles based on how I feel.
I have Kate Tempest, Mastodon, Placebo, James, Underworld and Adrian Snell on my Spotify list at the moment. I enjoy all of them, but I cannot compare - they are all excellent within their particular style. I mean how do you compare Nancy Boy with Eva's Song? Is Pale communion or Everybody Down a better album? Who knows.
The other problem is, for the best rock band, do you take one incarnation of a band? Or the whole of the work they did? Does "I Can't Dance" counter "Ripples"? Does "November Rain" make up for "Paradise City"?
The real issue is, I no longer care, because I like good music, whoever it is by, whatever genre they are in, and whatever else they have done. I like Pixie Lott's Caravan of Love. I don't have to like anything else she has done.
And this is not a criticism of the OP. It is just an exploration of the odd and diverse world we live in today. My favorite song and band will change daily/weekly/monthly. So what is "best" is a very ephemeral matter.
Posted by Rosa Winkel (# 11424) on
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Originally posted by Mudfrog:
Listen to Queen and you'll find prog rock to rockabilly, heavy metal to synth pop, beautiful ballads to vaudeville, jazz to punk.
Prog rock? Jazz? Punk? Which songs to you have in mind there?
Posted by Mudfrog (# 8116) on
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Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
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Originally posted by Mudfrog:
Listen to Queen and you'll find prog rock to rockabilly, heavy metal to synth pop, beautiful ballads to vaudeville, jazz to punk.
Prog rock? Jazz? Punk? Which songs to you have in mind there?
Listen to some stuff from the first couple of albums for the prog stuff, especially Queen II.
There are some jazzy-type slow songs in the middle period and if you want something punk, listen to .
Sheer Heart Attack
Posted by Rosa Winkel (# 11424) on
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Well, of course. I remember "Who needs you?" or "Melancholy blues" which were quite jazzy. "Queen II" is a masterpiece.
You're right in highlighting their diversity. I went to the Freddie Mercury tribute in 1992 and the other men looked very different to me: All short hair and the such. Hardly a black t-shirt in sight.
Anyone else like Diamond Head here?
Posted by Mudfrog (# 8116) on
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Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
I went to the Freddie Mercury tribute in 1992 and the other men looked very different to me: All short hair...
Yes, that was me! I was there too ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Why didn't you wave?
[ 06. December 2014, 13:00: Message edited by: Mudfrog ]
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Actually, Yes did do some great music too. And some rubbish.
Damn right.
My name is Sioni Sais and I bought Tales from Topographic Oceans.
It was a moment of revelation; that Anderson, Howe, Squire & co were purveyors of pretentious shit. From that moment it was back to rock, blues, soul and the better cuts of pop music.
Posted by Rosa Winkel (# 11424) on
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Originally posted by Mudfrog:
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Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
I went to the Freddie Mercury tribute in 1992 and the other men looked very different to me: All short hair...
Yes, that was me! I was there too Why didn't you wave?
I swear there was a mess-up with the tickets, in terms of which entrance people should use. It took me two hours to get inside the stadium waiting in the queue. I got in on the opposite end to the stage and had to therefore walk half the pitch. I would have been noticable as one of the few people to headbang when the 'tallica boys were playing.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
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Originally posted by mousethief:
And condoms.
Surely you mean dildos?
That crossec my mind, too, but I decided it is entirely possible there are scads of condom references in Steely Dan that I missed. These are the guys that wrote a blues song about the Oddessa.
Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on
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"Best"?
It depends on the genre and the mood I'm in.
For outright loud rock, you won't really beat Led Zep in their prime.
For punk, I would go for the Clash, although my favourite punk songs are by the Buzzcocks and the Undertones.
For blues, Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac were light years ahead of the rest (check out the awesome three CDs of them live at the Boston Tea Party).
Depending on how you define "rock", I would also put a plea in for Tinariwen. But then if you're including them, why not include Orchestra Baobab?
And how do you define "best"? Overall longevity and quality? Or those bands who have flashes of utter genius? If the latter, then I would also nominate Thin Lizzy from the Jailbreak era.
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
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Originally posted by mousethief:
And condoms.
Surely you mean dildos?
That crossec my mind, too, but I decided it is entirely possible there are scads of condom references in Steely Dan that I missed. These are the guys that wrote a blues song about the Oddessa.
Ahem.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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THAT's what the fez is? ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
Who fans, are you catching this?
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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Do, by the way, you meant that they wrote a song about the Odyssey? So did Suzanne Vega, and I think it's a good one, personally.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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No, I meant The Odessa. i read some analysis of "Chain Lightning" that said it was basically a tongue in cheek reference to Odessa.
"Home at Last" is one of my favorites, though.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
I'm a Queen fan and not ashamed to admit it.
So am I. One of the most fun things I've ever done was (about 20 years ago) being one of the backing singers in a concert by Flash Harry, an excellent Northern Irish Queen tribute band.
I'm also not averse to a spot of Genesis, The Who, Bruce Springsteen and (whisper it) Status Quo. ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
[ 07. December 2014, 02:20: Message edited by: Piglet ]
Posted by Aravis (# 13824) on
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My personal choice is Rush. Still producing incredible new albums after over 40 years with the same three band members. Also their lyrics are outstanding - I often use bits in sermons (unnoticed by the congregation).
Queen would be my more "popular" choice.
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Philosophers and ploughmen
Each must know his part
To sow a new mentality
Closer to the heart
ChristinaMarie used to have that, or one of the other verses, as her sig. here.
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Actually, Yes did do some great music too. And some rubbish.
Damn right.
My name is Sioni Sais and I bought Tales from Topographic Oceans.
It was a moment of revelation; that Anderson, Howe, Squire & co were purveyors of pretentious shit. From that moment it was back to rock, blues, soul and the better cuts of pop music.
There's enough good music in there that TFTT could have been the best side of an album ever recorded. Shame it took four and was over padded with rubbish.
As for later Genesis, despite the pop singles the long numbers were still brilliant. Domino for instance.
Rush are at their best in the concept pieces, 2112, Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, Clockwork Angels.
Posted by balaam (# 4543) on
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More mainstream rock than the proggy stuff. Deep Purple when John Lord was with them. Magnificent.
Posted by betjemaniac (# 17618) on
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Is this where I put in a vote for Barclay James Harvest?
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on
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Originally posted by balaam:
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Actually, Yes did do some great music too. And some rubbish.
Damn right.
My name is Sioni Sais and I bought Tales from Topographic Oceans.
It was a moment of revelation; that Anderson, Howe, Squire & co were purveyors of pretentious shit. From that moment it was back to rock, blues, soul and the better cuts of pop music.
There's enough good music in there that TFTT could have been the best side of an album ever recorded. Shame it took four and was over padded with rubbish.
I believe that's called the Wagner Effect.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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I had a horrible dream last night in which I entered REO Speedwagon on this list. Bloodshed ensued.
Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on
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Deja Vu the 1970 album by Crosby Stills Nash and Young is one of the best albums ever made IMO. Tapestry (Carol King) and Sweet Baby James (James Taylor) figure in the same era. All of these combine what we would call rock, country, folk and pop today. Which underscores the problem of defining what is meant by rock.
But....
We tried to register a campus club called "The Disco Sucks Club" back then. I am pleased to see no disco entries in this list.
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Well, because most of them would not be called rock bands.
Otherwise-- Earth, Wind, and Fire.
Posted by Timothy the Obscure (# 292) on
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A pox on genre-splitters!
Rock is a big tent with many sub-genres (several of which claim to be the One True Church™. If you were to take the most insistent of these--[cough]SC[cough]--at face value, you would have to conclude there was no such thing as rock before 1969, when Led Zeppelin's first album was released). AFAIC, a rock band is :
a) A self-contained collective writing, performing, and recording unit with b)at least two permanent members who make significant creative contributions (solo artists with hired-gun backup bands don't count, even if the sidemen have a band name, e.g. Bruce and the E Street Band, Prince and the Revolution), c) playing music that generally has a strong backbeat and uses drums, and d) whose historical influences can be traced back to the styles of popular music that arose in the mid-1960s in the wake of the Beatles.
The Beatles, of course, invented the rock band, and are the archetype, and anybody who wants to claim that they weren't a rock band needs to go back in time and argue with everyone who knew anything about it in 1966, when there was no doubt in anyone's mind. All other rock bands got to be rock bands by imitating their method, if not their music, which remains the case whether they know it or not.
Also, still the greatest in my book, but picking one is silly game--top ten lists are more traditional in this domain anyway.
I'm thinking about mine.
[ 07. December 2014, 22:40: Message edited by: Timothy the Obscure ]
Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on
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Originally posted by betjemaniac:
Is this where I put in a vote for Barclay James Harvest?
Not if you want to have any credibility ever again - EVER!
![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
(I will admit to once owning a BJH album - "Everyone is everybody else". And I liked "Mockingbird". And some mates and I went to Guildford Uni to see them play live, but we weren't allowed in coz we weren't uni students. But "greatest rock band"??? ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
)
Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on
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Originally posted by betjemaniac:
Is this where I put in a vote for Barclay James Harvest?
If you do, I'm going to nominate Budgie....
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Deja Vu the 1970 album by Crosby Stills Nash and Young is one of the best albums ever made IMO. Tapestry (Carol King) and Sweet Baby James (James Taylor) figure in the same era. All of these combine what we would call rock, country, folk and pop today. Which underscores the problem of defining what is meant by rock.
See, I would call this "light rock", which is a whole different animal. And these are three of my favorite albums.
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
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Originally posted by betjemaniac:
Is this where I put in a vote for Barclay James Harvest?
If you do, I'm going to nominate Budgie....
Oh hell yes! Another great Welsh band. Once you've heard 'Breadfan' you will never forget Burke Shelley's voice. Decent riff too.
[ 07. December 2014, 23:09: Message edited by: Sioni Sais ]
Posted by moron (# 206) on
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such a lovely place (such a lovely place)
if you like 'in your face'
schnop
on a dark router pathway
weird sparks in my hair
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I may be conflating two different threads - my bad.
Posted by Rosa Winkel (# 11424) on
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
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Originally posted by betjemaniac:
Is this where I put in a vote for Barclay James Harvest?
If you do, I'm going to nominate Budgie....
Oh hell yes! Another great Welsh band. Once you've heard 'Breadfan' you will never forget Burke Shelley's voice. Decent riff too.
Good enough for Metallica to cover.
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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Originally posted by balaam:
Rush are at their best in the concept pieces, 2112
Talk about your pretentious rubbish. "Look at me! I can tell an Ayn Rand fairytale about how evil collectivism is! Ooooo!"
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Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
The Beatles, of course, invented the rock band,
¿¿¿ What were the Crickets, after whom the Beatles fashioned their name? ???
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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That really bugs me.
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
That really bugs me.
I didn't think we'd hear a chirp out of you.
Posted by Timothy the Obscure (# 292) on
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The Crickets were Buddy Holly's backup band--it was Buddy Holly and the Crickets, not Buddy Holly as a member of the Crickets. You could make a better case for Chuck Berry as a band, because Johnny Johnson probably wrote all the music and Chuck was just the lyricist and guitar player. The only group comparable to the Beatles--where there was broad collaboration on songwriting, arranging, recording, and live performing--was the Beach Boys, who came along at almost exactly the same time.
Posted by betjemaniac (# 17618) on
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
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Originally posted by betjemaniac:
Is this where I put in a vote for Barclay James Harvest?
Not if you want to have any credibility ever again - EVER!
(I will admit to once owning a BJH album - "Everyone is everybody else". And I liked "Mockingbird". And some mates and I went to Guildford Uni to see them play live, but we weren't allowed in coz we weren't uni students. But "greatest rock band"??? )
Great album - especially the Poor Boy Blues/Mill Boys/For No One trio at the end. Listen to Live Tapes, BJH were an awesome live band.
Of course, all this was before I was born....
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
If you do, I'm going to nominate Budgie....
Is this where we segue into best Roger Dean album covers?
(wish I'd never parted with the book Views, and used to have a huge poster of the Close to the Edge cover).
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on
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Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
A pox on genre-splitters!
Rock is a big tent with many sub-genres (several of which claim to be the One True Church™. If you were to take the most insistent of these--[cough]SC[cough]--at face value, you would have to conclude there was no such thing as rock before 1969, when Led Zeppelin's first album was released).
I am not supporting genre-splitting. Just accepting that it has happened. Personally, as you would appreciate looking at the stuff I have said that I like, it covers such a range that genres clearly have no impact on me.
All I was saying is that, because bands will tend to fit a particular genre, and so play to that genre, it is impossible to compare.
And if you are nominating Budgie, I will say: Saxon!
Posted by Rosa Winkel (# 11424) on
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They were covered when I mentioned the NWOBHM earlier.
Posted by The Midge (# 2398) on
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How come the Jimi Hendrix Experience hasn't been mentioned getting on into the middle of page two?
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on
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I'm going to be terribly daring and mention a group that actually still exists (most of you seem to be living in the past to a high degree). Radiohead are seriously awesome.
Oh, and I'll mention another group that still exists and which I'm currently exploring. The Rolling Stones.
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on
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Originally posted by The Midge:
How come the Jimi Hendrix Experience hasn't been mentioned getting on into the middle of page two?
I did talk about Jimi. Of course he was a musician with backing group really.
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
The Crickets were Buddy Holly's backup band--it was Buddy Holly and the Crickets, not Buddy Holly as a member of the Crickets.
They became Buddy Holly and the Crickets later but they were originally the Crickets. Just as the Supremes became Diana Ross and the Supremes, and the Belmonts became Dion and the Belmonts.
The Crickets were a self-contained, songwriting, played-all-their-own-instruments rock band. That Buddy Holly (for a very brief period of course) took top billing doesn't change this. You're basing your argument on the name of the group and not the composition and function of the group. Which is nonsensical.
Posted by Timothy the Obscure (# 292) on
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You obviously know more about the history of the Crickets than I do, so I yield. I stand by the definition of "rock band," though. And that "rock" means post-Beatles, while "rock & roll" is pre-Beatles.
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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Is this a universal differentiation between "rock and roll" and "rock" or your own idiosyncratic one? I tried to find something on the web to explain when the "and roll" got dropped but without success.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Wikipedia has this to say about rock 'n' roll. But suspiciously edited anonymously only 13 hours ago...
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on
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Originally posted by mousethief:
Is this a universal differentiation between "rock and roll" and "rock" or your own idiosyncratic one? I tried to find something on the web to explain when the "and roll" got dropped but without success.
My more musical friends insist that 'Rock' and 'Rock and Roll' are different. There's a 'swing' to R'n'R that Rock rarely has.
Posted by Snags (# 15351) on
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Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
You obviously know more about the history of the Crickets than I do, so I yield. I stand by the definition of "rock band," though. And that "rock" means post-Beatles, while "rock & roll" is pre-Beatles.
Ah, the perils of labels and definitions. Personally, I tend to view "rock'n'roll" as having a more direct lineage back to the 50s/early 60s stuff and swing/jive with full skirts and wotnot, morphing into the whole rockabilly vibe, Stray Cats through to Imelda May and so on. But ... you've then also got bands like the Jim Jones Revue who are very much rock'n'roll with piano-playing straight from the school of Jerry Lee Lewis, just heavied up on the guitars.
And then you stand in the audience at a gig and hear the lead singer say "We are --- and we play rock and roll".
Which gig? Well, two bands spring to mind who regularly say that. Motorhead and The Sisters of Mercy ...
Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on
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Not sure about definitions etc, but I'd give the award to the E-Street Band. I guess some of that comes from loving the Springsteen songs, but mostly it's because they are excellent live; great backing musicianship combines with bravura and a lot of fun.
Happy to be bashed up over genre, but this song (from the recent UK Wrecking Ball tour) is the sort of thing I have in mind.
YMMV!
Posted by Marvin the Martian (# 4360) on
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Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
The only group comparable to the Beatles--where there was broad collaboration on songwriting, arranging, recording, and live performing--was the Beach Boys, who came along at almost exactly the same time.
The Byrds?
Posted by Rosa Winkel (# 11424) on
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The Manic Street Preachers are a rock band (not a Britpop band by any means). Their "The Holy Bible" is one of the best albums ever.
Pity how they turned out.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Best, like most superlatives, is largely personal. And when one looks at who influenced who, it is a twisted, intertwined ball of yarn, not a progressive thread.
But if one entity had to be named so for rock, it is the Beatles.
For innovation, variation, influence and popularity, they have no match.
Doesn't mean anyone one person needs to like them the best, but everyone else falls short of the measure.
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Argh. As a direct result of this thread, I am now trying to master the piano intro to Lamb lies down ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
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Posted by balaam (# 4543) on
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Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
A pox on genre-splitters!
And genre-movers.
Steppenwolf's Born to be wild contains the line 'Heavy Metal thunders.' Heavy Metal got it's name from that song. But if you were to tell a metalhead today that Born to be wild was metal they'd laugh at you. Yet it is the definitive Heavy Metal* song.
And don't get me started on R&B which was once blues tinged energetic rock and now is music such as Beyonce, soul with the energy removed.
--
* Though I'd probably define it as the first 4 Black Sabbath albums.
Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on
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Originally posted by Snags:
Personally, I tend to view "rock'n'roll" as having a more direct lineage back to the 50s/early 60s stuff and swing/jive with full skirts and wotnot, morphing into the whole rockabilly vibe, Stray Cats through to Imelda May and so on. But ... you've then also got bands like the Jim Jones Revue who are very much rock'n'roll with piano-playing straight from the school of Jerry Lee Lewis, just heavied up on the guitars.
Or, as the Blessed Muddy Waters once sang:
The Blues had a baby and they called it rock'n'roll
So perhaps we should see the roots of rock in the blues?
(And I am well aware of the suggestions that have been made about the links between the Blues and the kind of music being played in West Africa, where many slaves in the Mississippi area were taken from. Which kinda brings me back to Tinariwen....)
Posted by Fr Weber (# 13472) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
So perhaps we should see the roots of rock in the blues?
That and country. In roughly equal amounts, it seems to me.
Posted by Bob Two-Owls (# 9680) on
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I am surprised there has been no mention of the band that kept proper rock'n'roll alive throught the plastic pop years - Motorhead. I rarely miss a chance to see them live.
As for my runners-up, I would plump for Uriah Heep and Slade.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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Originally posted by Bob Two-Owls:
I am surprised there has been no mention of the band that kept proper rock'n'roll alive throught the plastic pop years - Motorhead. I rarely miss a chance to see them live.
You might want to take a peek here.
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Posted by Bob Two-Owls (# 9680) on
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Sorry I saw Sisters of Mercy and got too depressed to read the line properly. We need a mopey goth emoticon...
Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Wikipedia has this to say about rock 'n' roll. But suspiciously edited anonymously only 13 hours ago...
![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
Any song that prompts a five year old boy to pick up a wooden block, play air guitar, and chant "Rock 'n' roll, rock 'n' roll, rock 'n' roll" is rock 'n' roll.
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
quote:
Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
The only group comparable to the Beatles--where there was broad collaboration on songwriting, arranging, recording, and live performing--was the Beach Boys, who came along at almost exactly the same time.
The Byrds?
The Byrds didn't have the run of hit after hit after hit that the Beach Boys and Beatles did. They had a brief fling in the mid 60s but nothing like the decade of the Beatles and the near-decade of the Beach Boys.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Originally posted by Fr Weber:
quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
So perhaps we should see the roots of rock in the blues?
That and country. In roughly equal amounts, it seems to me.
Not equally. More like three grandparents in the blues and 1 in country.
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
quote:
Originally posted by Fr Weber:
quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
So perhaps we should see the roots of rock in the blues?
That and country. In roughly equal amounts, it seems to me.
Not equally. More like three grandparents in the blues and 1 in country.
I don't think we can disregard the influence of New Orleans jazz either. Early R'n'R had a lot of brass, which is rare in blues and country.
Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on
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quote:
Originally posted by balaam:
quote:
Originally posted by Timothy the Obscure:
A pox on genre-splitters!
And genre-movers.
Steppenwolf's Born to be wild contains the line 'Heavy Metal thunders.' Heavy Metal got it's name from that song. But if you were to tell a metalhead today that Born to be wild was metal they'd laugh at you. Yet it is the definitive Heavy Metal* song.
And don't get me started on R&B which was once blues tinged energetic rock and now is music such as Beyonce, soul with the energy removed.
Oi! I got a new arsehole torn me for saying that about R&B here a few months back. Doesn't stop you being bang on.
If anyone asks "what is heavy metal" I play Ace of Spades. It's not the best metal song ever, but it is three minutes of perfect explanation of exactly what metal is.
And why, people, have Jethro Tull not appeared on this thread as yet when they should have been the one post answer to the question in the thread title?
[ 10. December 2014, 07:04: Message edited by: Karl: Liberal Backslider ]
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
And why, people, have Jethro Tull not appeared on this thread as yet when they should have been the one post answer to the question in the thread title?
The guy who sold me my first and only electric guitar wanted to dress like Ian Anderson - until he found out just how much that would cost.
Posted by Rosa Winkel (# 11424) on
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
If anyone asks "what is heavy metal" I play Ace of Spades. It's not the best metal song ever, but it is three minutes of perfect explanation of exactly what metal is.
And ironically, as pointed out, Motörhead don't see themselves as being a metal band.
For me it's the definitive metal song, and video, is Judas Priest's "Painkiller". If I had to name a Maiden song, I'd go for "The number of the beast", even though they've done many better songs.
Posted by orfeo (# 13878) on
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Boxes. Why do we bother? Why do radio stations? The US market seems particularly prone to the desire to know which 'box' to put music in and has trouble handling something that crosses the boundaries. But crossing boundaries is how some of the most interesting stuff happens.
I only try to divide my music collection into 'classical' and 'popular', and even THAT breaks down occasionally.
Posted by Jane R (# 331) on
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Indeed. I divide music into 'stuff I like' and 'stuff I don't like'.
Works for me.
Posted by Schroedinger's cat (# 64) on
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This is why I like 6 Music, because they play good music, irrespective of category. You can get jazz, metal, indie, instrumental all in one day.
I did write an paean to Mary Anne Hobbs, because I think she epitomises this. She plays all sorts of music, and appreciates it all because it is all good music. She did a show on Radio 3 playing mainly classical, she plays metal and drone, and semi-classical-piano instrumental music. It is all music, and she loves it all.
That is the core point. Music is music is music. Some of it is good, some of it is bad; some I like, some I don't. But it is all music.
Posted by Spawn (# 4867) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
That is the core point. Music is music is music. Some of it is good, some of it is bad; some I like, some I don't. But it is all music.
Totally agree with this that the best music bursts through categories like genre. I like distinctions made earlier in thread between rock/blues and rock/post-blues. My strongest opinions are that AC/DC in the Bonn Scott era could claim to be the best rock/blues group ever, but the Geordie singer dragged them down. Most progressive rock is pretentious rubbish and especially Focus. There are exceptions to any strong opinion and Sylvia is one of them. Best live band ever was Dave Lee Roth-era Van Halen.
There are some brilliant bands around at the moment. I love listening to anything by The Strypes as much as any music of yesteryear. Sunset Sons, Hudson Taylor and Southern are worth a listen. I'm very happy that my teenage children are listening to music as good if not better than the stuff I grew up with. The best thing about it is that they have decades of music to immerse themselves in and loads of influences.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
I don't think we can disregard the influence of New Orleans jazz either. Early R'n'R had a lot of brass, which is rare in blues and country.
ISTM, jazz arrived in Rock'nRoll through Jump Blues, which is a child of Jazz. If one can draw a direct line, it would be jazz to swing to jump blues to rock'n'roll. The swung note, that get on your feet and dance to the beat, that is the spark.
Not to shade the arena rock sitting, zippo lighter waving, hippie wannabe, head-banging, spaced raving, prog noodling grand-daughters, but their conception would not have been except for that swing.
Posted by Fr Weber (# 13472) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
I don't think we can disregard the influence of New Orleans jazz either. Early R'n'R had a lot of brass, which is rare in blues and country.
Depends on what you mean by "a lot"--wasn't it usually a single saxophone?
Posted by Caissa (# 16710) on
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I'll take Cream.
Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
This is why I like 6 Music, because they play good music, irrespective of category. You can get jazz, metal, indie, instrumental all in one day.
Isn't it strange? I love all sorts of music from all over the world. I thought I would love 6 Music when it started. Every time (and I mean EVERY TIME) I listened to it, I switched off after 15 minutes, having been bored out of my mind.
quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Music is music is music. Some of it is good, some of it is bad; some I like, some I don't. But it is all music.
Absolutely.
There are very few genres of music that I cannot listen to. House and Trance would probably be the only thing I can think of. I'm not too keen on Country and Western, but I love a bit of Dolly Parton! I love the Blues but can't abide B.B. King. That's how it goes.
Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
.. but I love a bit of Dolly Parton!
.. I've had a brainworm since I read that ...
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
.. but I love a bit of Dolly Parton!
.. I've had a brainworm since I read that ...
Here's an earworm on a similar topic.
Posted by Timothy the Obscure (# 292) on
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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
Is this a universal differentiation between "rock and roll" and "rock" or your own idiosyncratic one? I tried to find something on the web to explain when the "and roll" got dropped but without success.
My own observation (having been there at the time, as I know you were) that by 1966 "rock & roll" was no longer in current use, except to refer to Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Buddy Holly, etc. It came back in about 1968-69, with what was then called the "rock & roll revival" (CCR, the Band, Cat Mother, and--most egregiously--Sha Na Na). It was in 1969 that the Stones began calling themselves "The World's Greatest Rock & Roll Band." Before that everyone called them a rock band (most would have said the second greatest).
Posted by Barnabas62 (# 9110) on
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Originally posted by mousethief:
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas62:
quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
.. but I love a bit of Dolly Parton!
.. I've had a brainworm since I read that ...
Here's an earworm on a similar topic.
That made me smile!
Confession time. The brainworm was ''Jolene. Jolene, Jolene, Jole-e-ene" but the lyric got twisted into "which bit, which bit ...." Coupled with giggles and guilt.
Sorry. Too much information.
Posted by Sioni Sais (# 5713) on
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Originally posted by Fr Weber:
quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
I don't think we can disregard the influence of New Orleans jazz either. Early R'n'R had a lot of brass, which is rare in blues and country.
Depends on what you mean by "a lot"--wasn't it usually a single saxophone?
Looking at some early R'n'R line ups that's so, but I can hear horns on recordings. Then again there's rock with brass sections too, not to mention the notorious sax soloes, which IMNSHO are fit only for the elevator.
Posted by moron (# 206) on
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Originally posted by Bob Two-Owls:
As for my runners-up, I would plump for Uriah Heep and Slade.
The (double) album version of _Live_ ended with a rock and roll medley (not, alas, available on later CDs) which is worth a listen.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
quote:
Originally posted by Barnabas62:
quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
.. but I love a bit of Dolly Parton!
.. I've had a brainworm since I read that ...
Here's an earworm on a similar topic.
That link told me that the video wasn't available. Perhaps it's just as well ... ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on
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Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
but I love a bit of Dolly Parton!
Dare I ask what bit? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
Posted by Oscar the Grouch (# 1916) on
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
quote:
Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch:
but I love a bit of Dolly Parton!
Dare I ask what bit?
If you have to ask, you probably won't understand....
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Posted by Kelly Alves (# 2522) on
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Y'all don't make me throw Juice Newton at you.
Posted by Caissa (# 16710) on
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Posted by Bob Two-Owls (# 9680) on
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quote:
Originally posted by moron:
The (double) album version of _Live_ ended with a rock and roll medley (not, alas, available on later CDs) which is worth a listen.
It is available on Spotify though.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Stones ; No argument! I would have said Led Zeppelin if I had ever seen them but I have not and did see the Rolling Stones twenty years ago. Zep did not invent heavy metal anyway: that was done by an obscure US band called Blue Cheer. Their first album on vinyl predated them by at least a year.
Greatest guitar player of all time remains of course, Jimi...
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
Stones ; No argument! I would have said Led Zeppelin if I had ever seen them but I have not and did see the Rolling Stones twenty years ago.
I think a very good argument could be made that LZ is not a rock band but a blues band.
Posted by Canucklehead (# 1595) on
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Talk about your pretentious rubbish. "Look at me! I can tell an Ayn Rand fairytale about how evil collectivism is! Ooooo!"
This made me chuckle. Also, Neil Peart was number 2 on Blender's list of worst rock lyricists - surpassed only by Sting.
Maybe it's the Canadian in me, but I don't mind small amounts of Rush.
My vote goes to the mighty Zeppelin.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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quote:
Originally posted by Canucklehead:
I don't mind small amounts of Rush.
Me to! Sometimes my enjoyment lasts almost to the end of a song.
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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I suppose it's telling that my favorite Rush numbers are "La Villa Strangiata" and "YYZ." Every time I hear "Trees" I want to bash Neil Peart in the teeth with Joyce Kilmer.
Posted by Sir Kevin (# 3492) on
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Originally posted by mousethief:
I think a very good argument could be made that LZ is not a rock band but a blues band.
The Stones were a blues band too when they first started out. Sir Michael could really wail on the harmonica on cuts such as "Midnight Gambler"!
Posted by Fr Weber (# 13472) on
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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
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Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
Stones ; No argument! I would have said Led Zeppelin if I had ever seen them but I have not and did see the Rolling Stones twenty years ago.
I think a very good argument could be made that LZ is not a rock band but a blues band.
There's no question that they played blues songs, and that the blues looms heavily over their work. But "Your Time Is Gonna Come" isn't a blues song at all; neither is "Good Times Bad Times" or "Black Mountain Side" (which is actually an old Irish folk song). And that's just the first album!
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on
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So you're saying that in order to be a "blues band" a band has to play NOTHING BUT BLUES? Ever? At all?
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Originally posted by mousethief:
So you're saying that in order to be a "blues band" a band has to play NOTHING BUT BLUES? Ever? At all?
They would best be described as a rock band heavily influenced by the blues. Actually there is a better description, backed by successful lawsuits, but I'll still refrain from giving it in deference to the Ship's copyright policy. Which, in regards to the lawsuits, is a bit ironic.
Posted by leftfieldlover (# 13467) on
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Sorry everyone, but The Groundhogs are the original and the best. The only excuse for not rating them is that you haven't heard them. Split is one of the great LPs of all time.
I like early Alice Cooper too. There's hardly a weak track on Love it to Death or School's Out.
I saw Groundhogs live in Reading when I was about 17 - and I sat on the stage! Great album.
Posted by leftfieldlover (# 13467) on
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Pink Floyd are my all time favourites, with Led Zep a very close second. The Stones are good - are they in their 70s now? I can remember enjoying bands like Ten Years After and Family, years ago. What ever happened to them? An album I still play every now and again is Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention 'Hot Rats'. It hasn't dated at all. These days I love Faithless, but I'm not sure if they would be classed as rock and anyway, they have split up.
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Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Apologies for thread necromancy but I had a sudden urge to have a youtube moment with Phil Lynott and Thin Lizzy doing I'm a Rocker - still as mindblowingly brilliant as ever.
I'm a bit of a Lynyrd Skynyrd fan as well but find Zep quite dated these days.
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