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Drewthealexander
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What are the main lines of interpretation with respect to the significance of the resurrection?
Perhaps we could avaoid the question of the historicity of the resurrection, which is more or a Purg question, and focus on its interpretatation and significance.
Rather than a comprehensive review, I will be very interested in the personal perspectives and interets of Kerygmanians which will draw on the main themes characteristic of the various Christian traditions, significant contributions by particular theologians, and any recommended reading.
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Moo
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A discussion of what the Bible says about the resurrection is appropriate in Keryg.
A discussion of what various traditions have to say about the resurrection belongs in Purg.
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Isn't any Christian theology basically an interpretation of the resurrection? I really have no idea how to respond to an OP of this breadth, I'm afraid. Maybe you could pick one resurrection narrative for us to discuss first?
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Drewthealexander
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I have re-posted in Purg ( thanks Moo).
For here - what does Paul have in mind describing resurrection as " victory?" And what is the relationship between resurrection and law?
1Cor 15
55“O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR VICTORY? O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR STING?” 56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law; 57but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Nigel M
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Paul's view – which is of course far more important than later Christian views in Purgatory(!) - is based on what he calls 'his gospel', i.e., the message he was authorised by God to announce to the non-Jewish world. He provides this in summary in 15:1-8
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Now I want to make clear for you, brothers and sisters, the gospel that I preached to you, that you received and on which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold firmly to the message I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.
For I passed on to you as of first importance what I also received—that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, and that he was buried, and that he was raised on the third day according to the scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve. Then he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. Last of all, as though to one born at the wrong time, he appeared to me also.
That was the high-level message. Paul wants to use that as the basis for tackling a more detailed issue in Corinth, that of a lack of belief in resurrection (he refers to this as an issue in v.12 - “Now if Christ is being announced as being raised from the dead, how can some of you say there is no resurrection of the dead?”). For Paul resurrection is crucial, it's a key part of God's authorised announcement. There's no point in accepting the message and still not believing it (or part of it).
He goes on to spell out just why this message – and belief in it – is so essential. He does this by drawing in references from the Jewish Scriptures (his overview of his gospel makes it clear that those writings underlie it), which open up a world associated with those texts. Some of those references are:-
* To creation and rebellion – Jesus as undoing Adam (whether the specific man or humankind in general) and the rebellion
* To the necessity of overcoming death itself – a reference used from Ps. 8:6 (in 15:27)
* To the counter-benefit of not believing in resurrection – a reference to Isa. 22:13 and 56:12 (in 15:32)
*To the new resurrected body – drawing in a reference to Gen. 2:7 (in 15:45)
* To the outcome: death is overcome – references to Isa. 25:8; Hosea 13:14 (in 15:54f).
As always, the verse referenced from the Jewish Scriptures should not be limited; it should be read with the whole passage in mind. The short reference is intended to open up the wider world of understanding among Paul's audience. So, for example, Psalm 8:6 makes better sense when read as the whole Psalm in support of Paul's point. It builds on the 'Adam' point already made. Jesus' followers were to be more like the Adam as originally intended, not the Adam of rebellion. They should be the image of God, ruling creation as though God himself were doing it, as in:
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Ps. 8:4-8
Of what importance is the human race, that you should notice them?
Of what importance is mankind [son-of-Adam], that you should pay attention to him, and make him a little less than the gods?
You grant him honour and majesty;
you appoint him to rule over your creation;
you have placed everything under his authority [under his feet],
including all the sheep and cattle, as well as the wild animals, the birds in the sky, the fish in the sea and everything that moves through the currents of the seas.
And so on for the other quotations. So when you get to 15:54f, Paul is referring to the necessity of resurrection before death can be fully overcome. He is drawing in a passage from Isaiah that paints the picture of what God's Day will be like when his kingdom is properly re-established on earth, when God will judge the those who rebelled, including those 'gods' on his divine council (also referred to in Ps. 8). The full passage in Isaiah runs from 24:21 - 25:12.
The Hosea passage works to warn, providing backing for the counter-benefit of not believing in resurrection – death is inevitable and so is the judgement for rebellion.
I haven’t had a chance to catch up with Paul on all this yet, though...
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For here - what does Paul have in mind describing resurrection as " victory?" And what is the relationship between resurrection and law?
Here's what I think about the first part of your question concerning victory:
What Paul has in mind, imo, is really the cosmic dimension, not the historic event per se.
Paul draws a line between the individual resurrection of Christ and the general resurrection of all and consequently the victory over death itself and God being "all in all".
I find it interesting in that respect, that the Corinthians didn’t necessarily deny the historicity of the resurrection, which they seem to have believed according to 1 Cor 15:11, but the resurrection of the dead in general, which is what Paul criticizes them for.
I’m mostly referring to this passage in 1 Cor 15:20-28 (NIV):
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20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.”[c] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
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Sarah G
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To summarise a very long explanation, I would suggest this is Paul's thinking:
1. Torah was a gift from God to Israel.
2. It was given to identify sin.
3. It was also given to identify the covenant people.
4. Israel would never be able to keep it successfully.
5. Israel had a vocation to sort out the problems of humanity and the world gone wrong, but given the above, had gone wrong themselves.
6. God sent Jesus as the goal of Torah, enabling Israel to complete its vocation, thus humanity and God's creation were released from death and decay.
7. The resurrection declares that the exile of Israel and humanity is over.
8. When someone declares Jesus as Lord and believes in his resurrection, they are doing what Torah promised would happen, and are therefore empowered to keep Torah as they couldn't before.
So in one sentence, Torah's aim, to give life, is fulfilled in the resurrection.
I haven't given detailed Bible references because I'm a bit lazy.
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