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Posted by Rosa Gallica officinalis (# 3886) on :
 
As I was listening to Sunday worship from Lisburn Cathedral on radio 4 this morning, while driving to church the minister mentioned the importance of the apostles' creed in worship and then introduced Hillsong: This I Believe (The Creed) as a modern version of it.

ISTM that this implies that Christ is not eternal but rather the progeny of the Father and Holy Spirit. (I realise that the Apostles' Creed does not express the full Christology of the Nicene)
Have I mis-read it?
Is this an adequate creed?
Are there any better modern sung paraphrases suitable for a typical congregation?
 
Posted by Arethosemyfeet (# 17047) on :
 
Stuart Towned and Keith Getty have done a paraphrase that isn't bad:
https://www.weareworship.com/uk/songs/song-library/showsong/853
It smudges some of the detail but it doesn't seem to be actively wrong anywhere.

Graham Kendrick does a version too, a little freer with the text:
http://www.grahamkendrick.co.uk/songs/item/50-we-believe
 
Posted by leo (# 1458) on :
 
I thought the whole service was awful - because of the music and lack of Anglican liturgy.
 
Posted by Anglican_Brat (# 12349) on :
 
Carolyn Winfrey Gillette has a good paraphrase set to the tune "Austria"

http://carolynshymns.com/i_believe.html

Sylvia Dunstan also has a version entitled "I believe in God Almighty" found in some denominational hymnals.
 
Posted by BroJames (# 9636) on :
 
This surely belongs on a different thread:
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I thought the whole service was awful - because of the music and lack of Anglican liturgy.

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I think all of the versions linked to are acceptable as affirmations of faith for use from time to time, but not as substitutes for regular use. The challenge of making them into songs males it hard for them to be theologically watertight as well.

If their status is 'this is an attempt to render the creed as metrical song' then that is OK. If it becomes 'this is just as good as any of the other boring old creeds we say' then it's not OK.
 
Posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider (# 76) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Rosa Gallica officinalis:
As I was listening to Sunday worship from Lisburn Cathedral on radio 4 this morning, while driving to church the minister mentioned the importance of the apostles' creed in worship and then introduced Hillsong: This I Believe (The Creed) as a modern version of it.

ISTM that this implies that Christ is not eternal but rather the progeny of the Father and Holy Spirit. (I realise that the Apostles' Creed does not express the full Christology of the Nicene)
Have I mis-read it?
Is this an adequate creed?
Are there any better modern sung paraphrases suitable for a typical congregation?

I can't get past the obviously wooden ear approach to poetry by whoever wrote it.
 
Posted by Pia (# 17277) on :
 
We have, on occasion, sung this, to Hyfrydol.
 
Posted by mousethief (# 953) on :
 
We just sing the creed.
 


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