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Thread: Third location for post on change regarding inerrancy
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Aristotle's Child
Apprentice
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I am now told that this thread belongs in “Dead Horses" However, looking up the criteria, I’ve found that it doesn’t really meet DH’s criteria either because it is clearly not a:
> topics for which there will be no answer this side of the afterlife<
This is not the case as those researching the topic will discover. The Catholic Church now has a NEW TEACHING developed by the Vatican II congregation that dealt with scripture and produced Dei Verbum which we can examine for consistency with other dogmatic teachings. It reverses the tradition teaching on the infallibility of scripture.
But Fr. Weber commented:
It seems obvious to me that in this encyclical "error" refers to moral or theological error. I really don't see what you're so exercised about.
RESPONSE:
No, it refers to ALL ERRORS including HISTORICAL ERRORS not just moral or theological ones.
PD 20 “…..For all the books which the Church receives as sacred and canonical, are written wholly and entirely, with all their parts, at the dictation of the Holy Ghost; and so far is it from being possible that any error can co-exist with inspiration, that inspiration not only is essentially incompatible with error, but excludes and rejects it as absolutely and necessarily as it is impossible that God Himself, the supreme Truth, can utter that which is not true….. The principles here laid down will apply cognate sciences, and ESPECIALLY TO HISTORY…….. Hence, because the Holy Ghost employed men as His instruments, we cannot therefore say that it was these inspired instruments who, perchance, have fallen into error, and not the primary author. For, by supernatural power, He so moved and impelled them to write-He was so present to them-that the things which He ordered, and those only, they, first, rightly understood, then willed faithfully to write down, and finally expressed in apt words and WITH INFALLIBLE TRUTH. Otherwise, it could not be said that He was the Author of the entire Scripture.”
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
# 1984
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If you click on the red guidelines link in the blurb at the top of the DH board page, there is a list of the topics covered that includes biblical inerrancy
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All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell
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Soror Magna
Shipmate
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Even if scripture is perfect or inerrant, our own readings and interpretations are not. The reason this topic is a Dead Horse is because when people say scripture is "inerrant", they really mean "my interpretation is inerrant and the rest of you have got it all wrong".
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mousethief
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One rarely goes wrong if one heeds the rulings of hosts and admins and puts them into practice.
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Golden Key
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Aristotle's Child--
Are you a Traditionalist Catholic? Maybe a sedevacantist?
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