Ship of Fools: Well I never! Religion in a Who spin off.

Thread: Well I never! Religion in a Who spin off. Board: Oblivion / Ship of Fools.

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Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on :

I had a go at watching Class, and missed an episode or two, and got a bit fed up with deaths of central nice characters. But I thought I would go back for a missed one earlier, as it was re-broadcast, and to my astonishment found that one of the characters, a Sikh, but not completely practising, gave a beautiful account of how hands and life should do good work, doing good actions, human to human, is the closest way to get to God.

I have never, ever, in all the Whoniverse, seen or heard someone describing a good religion well.

Not sure how this deals with all the destruction that is coming, though.

Posted by Pangolin Guerre (# 18686) on :

I missed that reference.

I just couldn't get into Class, large part because the Shadow Kin were inaudible to me. Even with the volume turned up. Might be their frequency. I did enjoy it's darkness (narrative), but not the colour palette.

Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on :

Episode 6, I think, with Ram following his love to defeat the king. I have taken to subtitles for some stuff!

Posted by Pangolin Guerre (# 18686) on :

Good to know it's not just me. I've been to a specialist, and I've lost 10% hearing in one ear, and the other normal, so by itself not enough to obscure the Shadow Kin. I hadn't thought of muting to get the subtitles, but I guess that my interest had already waned.

Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on :

I didn't think it was as riveting as Who, or, indeed, Buffy, which I suspect was in someone's mind. The last episode saw the killing of rather too many people (decent ones) for my taste. None of the Who "Nobody dies today" attitude. If there is a new series, which was signalled, I may watch to see if there is going to be an undoing of that. The Dr needs to come back to sort things out, as the school is not a haven. Dark things are afoot. I may wait for synopses. Want to know what will happen but don't want to watch!

Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :

I enjoyed Class as a whole: the writing was definitely patchy in places (also the actor who plays Ram only has two speeds - loud-mouth chancer and full scale screaming emergency), but then most of Dr Who in recent times has been patchy too, so I find watching it a similar experience.

FYI, We watch everything with subtitles just out of habit. It started in the days of living with my deaf Granddad and continued through the days of the poor sound quality of X-files quick talking ER. It's amazing how much more you pick up (assuming they're accurate).

Posted by Trudy Scrumptious (# 5647) on :

We got in the habit of leaving subtitles on when our kids were younger and used to watch tv while playing with legos and other noisy things. Now we leave it on when watching British shows or anything else where accents might cause us to lose a few lines.

Posted by Garasu (# 17152) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet:
I enjoyed Class as a whole: the writing was definitely patchy in places...

I too basically enjoyed it but was expecting slightly more from the writing given the writer!

Is it that he's not happy constrained to a 45 minute format? Or was he really trying to write the screenplay to
the novel that had already covered the same imaginative territory ?

Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Garasu:

quote:
Originally posted by ArachnidinElmet:
I enjoyed Class as a whole: the writing was definitely patchy in places...
I too basically enjoyed it but was expecting slightly more from the writing given the writer!

Is it that he's not happy constrained to a 45 minute format? Or was he really trying to write the screenplay to
the novel that had already covered the same imaginative territory ?

Very good question. I'd heard about but not read this book. Is it very similar?

My problem with both series is that most of the writers seem able to manage an interesting premise, and perhaps a satisfying ending, but can't figure out a coherent way of getting from the former to the latter. There's some good set pieces and quotable lines, but they don't further the plot.

Posted by Jay-Emm (# 11411) on :

The [6th/last I've seen so far] episode has an odd bit with a C.S Lewis reference, and I'd be curious as to what was in the writers heads.
It's oddly mixed views, because the plot elements are being summarized by a potentially unreliable narrator.

There's clearly one inaccuracy (Lucy's scene with the mirror is ascribed to Susan), but on the whole that scene is treated favourably, almost to the point of a moral source.
And a, to me, unbelievable actual reaction ('The problem with Susan' is the first thing he claims to have noticed, and brings up, as supposed to, say, feeling betrayed after identifying as Susan and with her values).

I could believe it as a deliberate working to get extra characterization. Or the author's indirect knowledge of the works. Or the author's over simplification, application of hindsight. Or me reading it differently. But I would be intrigued as to which.

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