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Posted by Offeiriad (# 14031) on :

I find myself having to concoct a 'Service of the Word' the week where this passage is the Gospel. Can anybody help by suggesting decent accessible hymns relating to this passage please?

A few years ago I found an old but to the point hymn on the Emmaus passage in an ancient hymn book (was it MHB?) - but I've lost it completely. Can anybody point me in the right direction? I know 'Erbide in me' is based on this, but I struggle to sing that on a Sunday morning.

Although I'm a fairly competent liturgist I'm helping out in a vacancy, and it is a church of a very different tradition to my own. My personal idea of a 'Service of the Word' is to announce 'A Service of the Word Made Flesh' and have a Mass instead. [Devil]

I am Trying To Be A Good Anglican, so all help welcome!

Posted by Arethosemyfeet (# 17047) on :

I tend to find hymnary.org a big help when my memory fails me:
http://www.hymnary.org/texts?qu=topics:emmaus

Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :

The line in my Signature comes from a very suitable hymn which might be the one you mean. It is sung to a very lilting Scots psalter tune but unfortunately I can't find any online record for it... Any thoughts anybody?

Posted by Adam. (# 4991) on :

I would have thought any Eucharistic hymn would be appropriate, as would any Easter hymn (given both the season, and the reading's place in Luke), or any hymn about pilgrimage / discipleship / being on "the way."

Posted by Jengie jon (# 273) on :

I am hunting for something and came across this hymn.

Jengie

Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :

quote:
Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
The line in my Signature comes from a very suitable hymn which might be the one you mean. It is sung to a very lilting Scots psalter tune but unfortunately I can't find any online record for it... Any thoughts anybody?

I think it is "Ye humble followers of the Lamb", possibly by John Needham of Bristol.

Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :

A hymns for your consideration:

here.

Posted by seasick (# 48) on :

Charles Wesley's O Thou who this mysterious bread is a good hymn on the Emmaus story.

Posted by Kwesi (# 10274) on :

Excellent choice, Seasick! Consider also from the same pen:-

1 TALK with us, Lord, thyself reveal,
While here o'er earth we rove;
Speak to our hearts, and let us feel
The kindling of thy love.

2 With thee conversing, we forget
All time, and toil, and care;
Thy yoke is ease, thy burden light,
And thou, my God, art here!

3 Here then, my God, vouchsafe to stay,
And bid my heart rejoice;
My bounding heart shall own thy sway,
And echo to thy voice.

4 Thou callest me to seek thy face;
'Tis all I wish to seek;
To attend the whispers of thy grace,
And hear thee inly speak.

5 Let this my every hour employ,
Till I thy glory see;
Enter into my Master's joy,
And find my heaven in thee.

Charles Wesley

Posted by leo (# 1458) on :

He comes to us as one unknown

Posted by kingsfold (# 1726) on :

quote:
posted by dj_ordinaire:
The line in my Signature comes from a very suitable hymn which might be the one you mean. It is sung to a very lilting Scots psalter tune but unfortunately I can't find any online record for it... Any thoughts anybody?

That looks very much as though it's one of the songs from the Iona songbooks ...

Found it: it's from Enemy of Apathy. I'm pretty sure I've got that knocking about at home, so PM me with an email address if you're interested in the music...

Posted by Jengie jon (# 273) on :

This hymn might be oddly appropriate.

Jengie

Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :

I rather like it - although I'm tempted to ay, "Not another hymn to "O Waly Way"!"

Posted by Offeiriad (# 14031) on :

Thank you, everybody, for such prompt and helpful responses. Truly the Ship is a mine of information....if you'll pardon my image. [Big Grin]

Posted by Fr Weber (# 13472) on :

Am I the only one who thinks that singing Eucharistic hymns in a Service of the Word is a bit like singing about filet mignon in the midst of a fast?

Posted by Kwesi (# 10274) on :

Fr Weber

quote:
Am I the only one who thinks that singing Eucharistic hymns in a Service of the Word is a bit like singing about filet mignon in the midst of a fast?

Not if you're a vegetarian. Bon appetite!

Posted by Kwesi (# 10274) on :

..................sorry "appetit" !

Posted by Fr Weber (# 13472) on :

Maybe "Let Us Break Bread Together Some Other Time"?

Posted by Belle Ringer (# 13379) on :

quote:
Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
The line in my Signature comes from a very suitable hymn which might be the one you mean. It is sung to a very lilting Scots psalter tune but unfortunately I can't find any online record for it... Any thoughts anybody?

The hymn in your sig shows up in a church bulletin here. I don't know if that helps locate it.

Posted by leo (# 1458) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Fr Weber:
Am I the only one who thinks that singing Eucharistic hymns in a Service of the Word is a bit like singing about filet mignon in the midst of a fast?

Not if the Word Service were Benediction/Devotions/Salut.

Posted by Adam. (# 4991) on :

Emmaus was our reading for daily Mass today. Once again, I was struck by the theme of suffering. The disciples' summary of Jesus' life (the first one on the lips of characters in Lk-Acts) spends a pretty large proportion of its words on his suffering. Then, he is made known to them in the breaking of bread: not the taking, or the blessing, or the giving, but the breaking is what is iconic.

Posted by Kwesi (# 10274) on :

Fr Weber

quote:
Maybe "Let Us Break Bread Together Some Other Time"?

Would that be leaven or un-leaven?

Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Belle Ringer:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
The line in my Signature comes from a very suitable hymn which might be the one you mean. It is sung to a very lilting Scots psalter tune but unfortunately I can't find any online record for it... Any thoughts anybody?
The hymn in your sig shows up in a church bulletin here. I don't know if that helps locate it.

Thanks Belle Ringer - yes, that is the one. The hymn tune mentioned in the bulletin doesn't sound like the one I know however. I'll ask the Director of Music!

Posted by georgiaboy (# 11294) on :

I've not located it in hymnals I have handy, but there is Bach's chorale setting 'Ach bleib bei uns, Herr Jesu Christ,' which is translated as
Lord Jesus Christ, with us abide,
For now, behold 'tis eventide;
And bring, to cheer us through the night,
Thy Word, our true and only light.
translation credited to Benjamin Hall Kennedy, 1863

(If your organist is up to it, one of Bach's Schubler Chorales is based on this melody.)

Posted by Fr Weber (# 13472) on :

quote:
Originally posted by leo:

quote:
Originally posted by Fr Weber:
Am I the only one who thinks that singing Eucharistic hymns in a Service of the Word is a bit like singing about filet mignon in the midst of a fast?
Not if the Word Service were Benediction/Devotions/Salut.

I think calling Benediction a "Service of the Word" stretches the definition a bit. I guess you can apply that title to any service that doesn't include Communion, but I'm not sure I would agree with that.

Posted by leo (# 1458) on :

Following modcern RC practice, Benediction isn't an add-on after Vespers but had its own Bible readings so it is a service of the word - calling it thus makes it 'legal' in the C of E too.

Posted by Wednesbury (# 14097) on :

I wonder if this was the one you were referring to? Set to the tune of Companion in the old MHB, which can be found here.

Posted by Beeswax Altar (# 11644) on :

So, if Offeriad is doing Benediction, then Eucharist hymns make sense. Of course, Benediction already has appropriate hymns. I'm just having a hard time seeing why you would have a Service of the Word on that Sunday. Even if you only have Eucharist every once in a while, I would think this would be one of those whiles.

Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Fr Weber:

quote:
Originally posted by leo:

quote:
Originally posted by Fr Weber:
Am I the only one who thinks that singing Eucharistic hymns in a Service of the Word is a bit like singing about filet mignon in the midst of a fast?
Not if the Word Service were Benediction/Devotions/Salut.
I think calling Benediction a "Service of the Word" stretches the definition a bit. I guess you can apply that title to any service that doesn't include Communion, but I'm not sure I would agree with that.

It's a little off-topic but I think this is the Anglo-catholic justification that is sometimes offered - a Service of the Word that ends with a blessing through the medium of the Holy Sacrament instead of the officiating priest.

I think many people would also agree with Fr Weber that this is indeed stretching the definition 'a bit'!

Posted by leo (# 1458) on :

2 reasons:

1) shortage of priests so I often find myself having to take a word service to those who expect a ewucharist - and this diocese forbids communion by extension

2) I swore an oath to use only those services authorised by canon (though my then ncumbert said, 'Canon who?'

Posted by Robin (# 71) on :

@dj_ordinaire I believe the tune John Bell uses for As we walked home at close of day is The Silkie. You can hear Joan Baez singing it here (the original ballad, not John Bell's hymn).

Robin

Posted by kingsfold (# 1726) on :

quote:
posted by Robin:
@dj_ordinaire I believe the tune John Bell uses for As we walked home at close of day is The Silkie.

Yup, that's the one in Enemy of Apathy. I checked it last night....

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