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mousethief
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That was an apology?
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Well, sure, Alex. What with us being so fragile and all.
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MadFarmer
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Well, it was about as coherent as the OP...
incoherent rant/ incoherent apology...
Strange thing though. Read the guy's home page and seems fairly smart and nice enough. He's started an interesting thread down in Kerygmatics about the Bible and usury- he's not dumb, and he's being quite coherent down there...
Do people commony misunderstand Hell to the extent that our serpent-turned-penintent* and Miss Dree Saint have?
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* "Scyndan" = Old English for "Serpent." Didn't anyone else here have to recite Beowulf in the original OE when in high school?
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babybear
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Originally posted by locust-eater:
Kerygmatics
::sigh:: Kerygmaticx is Dogmatix's litter sibling!
Kerygmania is where we have discussions based on what it actually says in the Bible!
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mousethief
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Originally posted by locust-eater:
Do people common[l]y misunderstand Hell to the extent that our serpent-turned-penintent* and Miss Dree Saint have?
Never in my experience. Getting them both at the same time has been something of a -hmm- coincidence.
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Originally posted by scyndan heofon-cyning:
those whose egos have acquired an extraordinarily strong cathexis with SoF.
Gosh. And I thought my ego only had an extraordinarily strong cathexis with the BCP (you know, the Anglican one. Oops, I think I'm glomming. Glomming while cathecting, what WOULD Kristeva say about THAT?) Anyway, at least my copy of the BCP is taller than it is wide, so it qualifies in the most signatory/symbolic sense as a phallic symbol.
I shall get to work cathecting SoF later on this afternoon, after I've realised that Mr Cyning has no reality outside of the language I faultily employ to understand and (de)scribe him.
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mousethief
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You know, HT, you are what you cathect. In. Whatever.
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MadFarmer
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Kerygmaticx is Dogmatix's litter sibling!
![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif)
... just trying to fulill my quota of newbie mistakes as quickly as possible...
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(who is noticing for the first time his initials' French article feel...)
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ChastMastr
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Originally posted by scyndan heofon-cyning:
4) savaging individuals individually
If those who feel they have been individually savaged step forward
![[Eek!]](eek.gif) Wait! Wait! I didn't get a turn! Savage me! Savage me! Oh, do, do, do savage me! It's what I live for... ![[Sunny]](graemlins/flowerface.gif)
But remember, "yellow" means "be more careful" and "red" means we have to end the scene.
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mousethief
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Sorry, David, the savaging is all over. Move along now. Nothing to see here.
Can we get some crowd control tape down here?!
Move along, people. Keep it moving.
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Mousethief said Getting them both at the same time has been something of a -hmm- coincidence.
Do you think they are related?
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MT, that was not an apology, that was the most pathetic candy-assed display of insincere groveling I've ever seen. Jeez, man, you and your inner shithead need to go on some kind of "find yourself" retreat or something. I mean, if you're going to be an asshole, BE AN ASSHOLE. There were a few seconds in there that I thought you might actually be serious. The art of a good sarcastic flame is that your readers KNOW you're blowing sunshine up their asses. You're losing your touch, man. I have to say I'm disappointed. I can only award that flame a 2.
Better luck next time, dude.
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mousethief
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Erin, I take it that from the point where you say "Jeez, man," you're talking to the scintillating cunt and not to me? Otherwise I don't get it as I haven't flamed anybody on this thread.
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mousethief
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Originally posted by Nightlamp:
Do you think they are related?
Husband and wife, perhaps?
Reader A.
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Originally posted by Mousethief:
quote:
Originally posted by Nightlamp:
Do you think they are related?
Husband and wife, perhaps?
Reader A.
EEEEK!
Just imagine what the offspring would be like...!
I mean, sanctimonious gits are fun toys to wind up, and Stay-Puft Marshmallow Men ego people with useless educations are good for an amusing scrap. But blend them together... it's enough to make me religious.
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RuthW
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RooK, you shouldn't go and tell us what it's going to take for you to straighten up, fly right, and get religion - we just might make some arrangements ...
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babybear
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Originally posted by Erin:
I can only award that flame a 2.
What is the flaming-scale Erin?
1 - slightly warmed
2 - a little heat and colour
3 - lightly toasted
4 - toastie
5 - char grilled
6 - char coaled
7 - reduced to constituent molecules
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Originally posted by locust-eater:
Strange thing though. Read the guy's home page and seems fairly smart and nice enough.
You think? I thought I'd never seen anyone over the age of 16 looking so dour in a family photo.
People seek knowledge for different reasons. Some people seek knowledge with the goal of improving themselves. Others, such as our new, name-changing friend, seem to pursue knowledge so they can use it as a stick with which to beat others. Not that this is real knowledge. If it was knowledge about the good ol' CofE he was interested in, a little more he would have listened, a little less he would have whipped out the needlessly scatalogical comments.
So, Name-Changer, I'm dying to know, did NC State ask you to leave their doctoral program? Was your master's thesis not up to snuff?
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Wood
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Interesting how the guy failed to reply to anything I said.
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Hercule
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Oh dear, did Professor Wood say something? <fumbles for ear trumpet> I must have missed it.
Dearest Qestia--I have enjoyed the argument over whether or not I am "smart." My sense of security hangs in the balance. BTW, NCSU has no PhD program. Also, unlike the inbred universities of certain lands, it's customary for Americans to try to do an MA and PhD in different institutions.
Keep digging. I'm sure you can find heavier lashes to bring forth.
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Wood
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Originally posted by Pestilential Penitent:
Oh dear, did Professor Wood say something? <fumbles for ear trumpet> I must have missed it.
OH. You weren't paying attention. And there was me thinking you hadn't the brains or guts to actually stick with the argument.
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Also, unlike the inbred universities of certain lands, it's customary for Americans to try to do an MA and PhD in different institutions.
'Try' is the operative word with some people.
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Keep digging. I'm sure you can find heavier lashes to bring forth.
No need. you're making a big enough twat of yourself without us having to do anything.
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Wood
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Oh, and did I mention that pretending academic superiority and then attempting to use 'professor' as an insult is possibly a fatal error?
Or it would be if you hadn't made about seventeen already.
It's moronic anyway.
I've slaughtered better than you in here, bollockbrain.
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duchess
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There is a big "L" on his icon...I wonder what that means... ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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Brandy Alexander
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It means Moo-Koo and I need to go find new avatars for fear of being mistaken for the Name Changer.
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mousethief
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Loser
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RuthW
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Originally posted by Pestilential Penitent:
Also, unlike the inbred universities of certain lands, it's customary for Americans to try to do an MA and PhD in different institutions.
This is by no means universal in the US. The UC Irvine English dept. prefers to accept people directly into its PhD program, and every year only accepts one or two "transfers" who have received the MA from other schools. And these folks tend to have to redo some coursework anyhow. I imagine lots of folks reading these boards won't have heard of UCI, so I'll explain that it's got a highly respected literary theory program. Not that anyone who doesn't read literary theory cares!
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ChastMastr
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Originally posted by Mousethief:
Sorry, David, the savaging is all over. Move along now. Nothing to see here.
Can we get some crowd control tape down here?!
Tape? Oh, yes, bring some tape! (licks lips) I do so love...
Okay, I'll stop now.
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Originally posted by Pestilential Penitent:
I'm sure you can find heavier lashes to bring forth.
I said I'd stop now, you naughty, naughty boy!
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mousethief
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Behind the pylons, leatherboy! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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MadFarmer
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You think? I thought I'd never seen anyone over the age of 16 looking so dour in a family photo.
People seek knowledge for different reasons. Some people seek knowledge with the goal of improving themselves. Others, such as our new, name-changing friend, seem to pursue knowledge so they can use it as a stick with which to beat others.
er yeah. You like, missed my point and stuff. My point was not that he looks bad in a photo (who cares? Oh wait. This is Hell... everyone's an ass down here) or that he's behaved badly in Hell here, but that in the other available contexts, he seems to be nicer and actually writes coherently.
That's why I was wondeing if his posts in hell here were something of an affected persona. Which is a misunderstanding of what hell is for, but he seems to be playing "stick and hornet's nest" with everyone here, which is admittedly not nice, but everyone seems to be playing right into his hands in that regard... if he really is playing some persona game, the flames are probably doing nothing more than entertaining him. I can't tell if everyone else is genuniely angry with him or is equally entertained...
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Qestia
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LE, I did go check out the Kerygmania thread and you're right, he seems completely different there.
Maybe after he's been around for awhile we'll become accustomed to his sense of humor.
He did choose an awfully strange way to introduce himself.
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Hercule
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Woody--I repented, but I still have to argue? Which argument? Can I do that and still be nice?
UCI is not all that unusual, RuthW. Several "top-tier" univerisites take that approach. UW-Madison tried it for a while. Is Murray Krieger still alive and on the wagon?
Are there any Avatar that are not taken?
Will I ever be able to contradict myself, engage in paradox or irony, without this being pointed out as something I probably didn't intend? Wood--you must be a new critic at heart. Or whatever they had on your side of the pond. Leavisites. Richardsists. Etc.
This board is interminably logocentric. Keep banging those rocks together boys--maybe you'll ground this free playing signifier to some external reality one day.
how dull.
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MadFarmer
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Strange. counterproductive, mean. Not to mention his OP makes no damn sense. He never answered my questions about how fundies in England are somehow worse than fundies in America, which makes me wonder if he had a point at all. Was he using himself for flame-bait maybe? But why?
Maybe he was drunk?
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Hercule
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Oh--damn!
"L" for loser. Why do I set myself up for such abuse. I am SOOOO dumb. Really, I want to work hard so you will all like me. Please!
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Erin
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Don't you have some puppies to kick? SOMEWHERE ELSE?
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Lifeman
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I've only just encountered this thread.
Normally, I have a pretty balanced view where Americans are concerned but let's look at a few
facts:-
1) America - the people who gave you the MONKEY TRIALS - an eternal testement to bigotry.
2) America -founded in the name of religious freedom and yet Anabaptists were being savagly persecuted within a few years of the Mayflower landing.
3) America - where even today, being black in the southern states does not relate much to the Christian concept of all men being created equal
(and how many churches there are essentially blck or white)
4) America - the home of the mega rich T.V.
Evangelist, obviously watched by huge numbers or else thet would'nt be so rich. I read of one who has a fleet of aircraft!
All the above are merely a few thoughts which immediately spring to mind. Who's the most screwed up? Pestilential Penitant, are you sure you know what you're talking about?
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Another "expert" who doesn't live here. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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Ham'n'Eggs
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Playing with a troll is symptomatic of intense boredom. Why not move along someplace else, everyone? ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
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mousethief
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Can I kick Lifeman? Can I? Please?
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Hercule
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What makes you sure I know what I'm talking about, or that my talking has anything to do with what I might know?
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America - where even today, being black in the southern states does not relate much to the Christian concept of all men being created equal
(and how many churches there are essentially blck or white)
Typical European holier-than-thou bullshit derived from watching too much of the demonic American TV. Church segregation is common all over the US and is probably more pronounced in the Northern urban regions, which are the biggest seats of covert but pretty damn obvious racism. Leftover KKK pro-confederacy nuts (also existing in the north) in the south are hardly indicative of much empowered racism in the US today. Ideological racists may shoot people still once in a blue moon, but in the big northern cities the politics of housing and education is far, far more racist and destructive.
Of course the enlightened Europeans embrace people of every kind.
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Originally posted by Mousethief:
Can I kick Lifeman? Can I? Please?
As far off the boards as possible, please!
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mousethief
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Originally posted by Pestilential Penitent:
Of course the enlightened Europeans embrace people of every kind.
Unless, of course, they're refugees.
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Erin
Meaner than Godzilla
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Originally posted by Lifeman:
Normally, I have a pretty balanced view where Americans are concerned
Everybody get back, lightning is headed his way for this flat-out bold-faced LIE.
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3) America - where even today, being black in the southern states does not relate much to the Christian concept of all men being created equal
(and how many churches there are essentially blck or white)
*snip*
Pestilential Penitant, are you sure you know what you're talking about?[/QB]
Why should he? You sure as hell don't. Let me heartily recommend a course for you, Lifeman. It's called Reality 101: How to Tell Your Ass from a Hole in the Ground. You know precisely DICK about racial relations in the South, so until you actually have something to go on besides the anti-American xenophobic bigotry spewed by the columnists in the Guardian, you should really not spout your "facts" anywhere there are people with functioning brain cells.
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mousethief
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On the other hand, why not let Erin kick for me? She is much bolder than I'll ever be.
PS My wife was born and raised in the south and never heard the "N-word" until she moved to northern Indiana.
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RuthW
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Originally posted by Pestilential Penitent:
UCI is not all that unusual, RuthW. Several "top-tier" univerisites take that approach. UW-Madison tried it for a while. Is Murray Krieger still alive and on the wagon?
Talk about your New Critics! Alas, no, Murray the K died a few years back - but not before they renamed one of the humanities buildings after him. In class he was such a fine reader of Renaissance poetry that it made you want to Learn to Love the Logos. Then you'd leave the magical space of the classroom, shake it off, and dutifully go back to reading Derrida (hey, it was the 80s).
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Alas, Ruth -- those were the days before Derrida had become his both his own text AND context.
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Hercule
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After 8 years in North Cackilacky I never heard more uses of the n-word than I did in the ROI and northern England. Also the only time I ever heard someone (for myself) use the word "monkey" as a racial slur--against a leading English football player. Incredible.
I really love old new critics who make you love the logos. I've met a bunch of young wannabes, but I think we cannot ring the bell backwards in this case.
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Wood
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Originally posted by Pestilential Penitent:
Woody--
That's MISTER Woody to you, buster.
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I repented, but I still have to argue? Which argument?
Does it matter? I'm having a blast here.
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Wood
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Oh, and by the way, do we have a consensus that we can all kick Lifeman to a bloody pulp anyway?
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Hercule
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OK, well then Wood and l-e, yes my OP was incoherent BS, and I was drunk, and for some reason Diminutive Nematode's CoE-down-the-toilet thread peeved me, and it was hot, and I was wearing... well, that's all YOU need to know.
No, l-e, British fundamentalists aren't worse than American ones, but their existence--esp. in the CoE--is an annoying anomaly (at least to my mind) given the liberalized dessicated impression I have of that institution. Perhaps also like John Calvin I have a revulsion toward the mixing of radically disparate entities. At least in the US we tend to properly institutionally segregate ourselves by theopolitics. Hurray for schismaticism! And I do think the whole English national church enterprise was nutso and a doomed imperialist pile of fudge from the start, although I do like the short weird Edward VI moment. But let's not start some kind of serious historical discussion.
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Originally posted by Pestilential Penitent:
No, l-e, British fundamentalists aren't worse than American ones, but their existence--esp. in the CoE--is an annoying anomaly (at least to my mind) given the liberalized dessicated impression I have of that institution...
Ohhh kay... and it follows that... ?
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And I do think the whole English national church enterprise was nutso and a doomed imperialist pile of fudge from the start
Me too, although it's best to keep it quiet round here.
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Damn. Got to stop thinkig aloud like that.
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