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Thread: Hell: Calling God to Hell
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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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Shake hands - only I can't, cause I might catch SARS. One can never be too careful ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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“Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar.”
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Ariel
Shipmate
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They pause for a moment in embarrassment and then make a light remark about something completely unrelated.
I have a hellish toaster of my own. It cost 5.99 at Argos, and produces slices of curved, wavy toast with a patchwork pattern.
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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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You know what God? You can stop taking the bloody piss; fuck off and play with someone else's life.
Now.
Just.Fuck.Off.
Cause I don't want to know anymore. I don't care. I am not playing. Find another puppet with strings you can pull, cause this one ain't yours to play with no more.
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“Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar.”
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JimT
Ship'th Mythtic
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Whoa.
I am becoming more convinced of the appropriateness of conceptualizing God as something that emerges out of the order of Creation rather than as the Person in Charge of Everything. So long as God is conceptualized as the Person in Charge, people are going to get really angry when things go wrong.
In the Old Testament we get the picture of God as a super-person with whom you can chat. In the New, there are other strains that God is a spirit or presence that can be sensed and experienced but not really engaged in a two-way conversation.
If we are the Body of Christ, perhaps God is latent in us and thus in Creation and is only manifest when we act toward one another in a Christ-like manner. It doesn't make sense to tell Love, Caring, Compassion, Health, and Prosperity to stop bothering you and making your life miserable. But it does make sense to do so to a God who is supposed to supply you with these things but instead supplies you with Suffering and Sorrow. Or allows you to be so supplied.
Instead of telling God to go away perhaps we should summon God from each other. It seems to be happening on this thread, and working.
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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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Or alternatively we could not bother with the concept of God in any way shape or form.
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“Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar.”
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ChrisT
One of the Good Guys™
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Viki, that's not a bad idea. Where do I sign up?
ChrisT
Society for Humankinds Abolishment of God (SHAG)
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Golden Key
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ChrisT ![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
I presume the theme song would be the Beatles' "Imagine"?
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Blessed Gator, pray for us!
--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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Pyx_e
Quixotic Tilter
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........ it's the only shag he's likely to get this week .............
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welsh dragon
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Hello God.
Well, you know what weird little jokes you are playing at the moment. I hope you are enjoying yourself. You sardonic old Creator you.
If anyone has a moment to spare from being pissed off, do you think you could say a prayer for me this evening please...
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Golden Key
Shipmate
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{{{Welsh Dragon}}} (in absence of a prayer smilie)
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Blessed Gator, pray for us!
--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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that Wikkid Person
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A song I wrote to God a couple of years ago:
Who Are You Anyway?
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I know you're not like Santa Claus
Although you know who's naughty nice.
I don't say "I've been good all year, so give me this"
You don't have a sleigh...do you have advice?
'cause I can't help but wonder
because I just don't understand
I don't know who you are anymore
I don't even know who I am
I know you're not like Jupiter,
You're more than Zeus in one his foul moods
But some days you help, some days you smite
most days I don't get a reason why
Though I don't mean to be rude...sir
I know you're not like my father
Although your standards are almost as high
If I'm your son, I'm more prodigal than prodigy
Scared to come home and I don't know why.
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We have only one truth and one reality. Let's make the most of them.
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that Wikkid Person
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That was supposed to be "Though you know who's naughty or nice"
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We have only one truth and one reality. Let's make the most of them.
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Golden Key
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God, I am so very, very tired. ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
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Blessed Gator, pray for us!
--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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Golden Key
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Tracks down God. Goes into a fury of kicking, screaming, hitting with a foam bat, and throwing paint balls.
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Blessed Gator, pray for us!
--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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sophs
Sardonic Angel
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Ok God. This is it. I am so lost and confused and angry I can't think straight. But i know one thing, i know that you are a bastard and i hate you. i really really really hate you.
All i want is to feel you near. to feel that you care for me, to feel that you love me. i want you to be the god i was told you would be: someone who comforts and heals people, someone who cares. Is that too much to ask God? is it to much to want to feel your love and comfort? Why can't i god? i'm looking for it, i'm searching for you...i'm crying out to you to come and help me...and where are you? why do you go in my darkest moments? why is it when i need you the most you leave me, you leave me to pick up the pieces of my "life".
Why are you there for some people God? Why do some people feel your love and others don't?
I know why you do this god. i know why you leave the ones who are hurting and broken, i know why you hurt people and cover them in crap til they loose all hope of some better life and just give up. You are a sick bastard. You enjoy seeing humanity suffer. you enjoy seeing people crying and pleading for you to help them. You like seeing them powerless and scared, you like seeing them try to trust in you and try to hold on, whilst you watch them slipping...
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Golden Key
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Sophs ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif) ![[Love]](graemlins/lovedrops.gif)
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Blessed Gator, pray for us!
--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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Clay_Pigeon
Mathematics
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God!
Why is it that you only seem to take the good ones? Why is it that you only seem to afflict those who earnestly strive for you. Don't give me this blah blah purifying fire blah blah blah rebuking those you love blah blab blah preparing us for the afterlife bullshit. What I see is that one of the most tenderhearted, kindest, most enthusiastic students I have losing a father -- and a wonderful, loving, engaged father at that. I see a kid who could only talk to me about computers at his father's calling hours because when he talked about anything else he burst into tears.
I know you're there Lord...in the hands and feet of the people who love that family...abiding with those who hurt. But why the hurt in the first place? It's not right....it's just not right. Did you just forget all of the pain and heartache that you experienced when you were down here? You'd think you would have drafted up a new plan once you got back to Heaven....at least something where the good don't die young.
It's just not right
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THAT'S IT! NOW I'M PISSED!. You're so off my prayer list.
-Was Once Troy
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Ariel
Shipmate
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Just reminding you that I still exist. I've been around for over 40 years, and you still haven't found any use for me. Except occasionally, when I get tired of the way things are and try to change them, you throw up a quick brick wall so that I'm back to square one again. Are you finding this amusing? Because I'm not. If you haven't got any use for me, do the decent thing and abolish me. If you do have a purpose for me, just tell me what it is instead of watching me blunder around in some kind of eternal fog. And what is all this business about snatching away everything and everyone I value? I'm not supposed to show any signs of enjoyment?
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Golden Key
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Hugs to everyone.
(Assume insertion of Mandatory Hellish Thoughts (tm) here.)
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Blessed Gator, pray for us!
--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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sophs
Sardonic Angel
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Thats it God.
I.GIVE.UP.
now. forever.
i don't ever want to speak to you, or hear about you again.
you are a complete bastard and i hate you.
good bye.
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welsh dragon
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Hello again God.
Erm, I think this is the lull in the middle of the storm. Lull is good.
Sorry for shouting.
Oooh I wish we could just go for a beer and have a chat. In a none-too-overwhelming non-incendiary way. You must get so fed up of all this. I love you really you know. Does anyone ever buy you birthday presents? Or care about what your favourite music is? I bet you don't like an awful lot of the music you have to listen to. Clumsy choruses and dirge-like hymns. And we can't understand you or talk to you very well, and we blame you for things that are our own fault, and we are too scared to be honest about what we feel, when that is what you really want from us. And you put up with it all, and you love us to death.
Ohhhhhhhhh.
Sorry, God.
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QLib
Bad Example
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quote:
Originally posted by sarkycow:
Or alternatively we could not bother with the concept of God in any way shape or form.
Well, Sarky (and ChrisT), I actually think that not bothering with the idea of God is quite a good move. In the long run, I even find it helpful. Because the shit is still there, but there's no-one to blame and yell at. So what then?
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JimT
Ship'th Mythtic
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So God, "your eye is on the sparrow." What are you doing with the other one? Some folks down here could use your help. Have you only got one eye?
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Jengie jon
Semper Reformanda
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This ain't a follow on post but I think it belongs here.
Look God I am fed up with being preached at about the ressurection! I mean it. Escpecially how that should make all the difference to how we cope with things. Well I find coping with life pretty hard work and your ressurection does not give me anymore energy to cope with life than that of none christians. Indeed because they do not bother with you they seem able to take decisions that save them trouble where as I end up expending myself to no purpose. I end up fatigued and exhausted trying to do the best I can at loving the people around and I do not seem to get one ounce of all that joyful energy that is supposed to come from the ressurection. Is it all a charade? Do we have to wait until we die to get it? or for you kingdom to come?
Jengie
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"To violate a persons ability to distinguish fact from fantasy is the epistemological equivalent of rape." Noretta Koertge
Back to my blog
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MadKaren
Shipmate
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Oi God
Whats going on? Why am I here, getting ever more into debt, constantly worried about what happens in x months time. Why can't we find jobs that allow us to get rid of this bloody millstone? I don't even want a lot of money, just enough to not have to keep worrying and stressing and juggling cash to pay off the usurious sharks chasing us. I liked the last job, why did it have stop? I thought You might even want us here, but why are we still struggling with stuff. I mean struggling. you don't have to worry about red tape in a language you barely speak to try and sort things out. The whole thing makes me feel so damn useless...as if I've not had enough dealing with the fucked up sense of self esteem for years.
You know sometimes I wonder if i can go on doing this, and knowing that I don't really have a choice...
And lets not start on this mornings debacle - or why your church can't agree about the one thing thats supposed to bind them together...
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Why do people who claim to love God embarrass him in public?
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harmony hope
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I feel so deeply for all of us who are or have been through periods of great unhappiness and depression when life just feels totally unliveable and pointless and there is no reply to our despair.
I have ranted & raved, begged & pleaded, prayed & prayed (why?) for release from this and finally, after almost 10 years of on-and-off hell, (lots of counselling & learning to counsel, and a really exhausting exploration of my faith), thanks be to God, I have reached an okay place where some days are actually rather good and I feel more able to cope.
My experiences nearly killed me (literally) but I have been made stronger & yet more humble by them. I understand things now about my life that I could not before.
Not sure if this helps. My current happiness may well come & go & to everyone suffering now I wish with all my heart that I could help to ease your pain. We all suffer with you.
I believe now that God was listening all along, even when I tried so hard to escape Him, and he has held me in his love for all this time.
I have absolutely no answers for the developing world/suffering (earthquake in Turkey)and feel sick to my stomach about it - the 'how can there be a God if He allows so much suffering' argument is one quite rightly often thrown at me by others questioning my faith.
All I can say is that I DO believe - it's a very simple faith now - but I am lucky, I live in a prosperous country, I have medicine for me and my young children etc. It is a very personal tourment that we in the West endure, of mental illness, depression, and a no less real tourment for that.
I pray the clouds will start to lift very soon for everyone who suffers this despair - I feel very passionately about this and trust that God does too.
Harmony Hope
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'God grant me the Serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can and Wisdom to know the difference.'
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Amorya
Ship's tame galoot
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Y'know, Lord, I read this thread and it makes me sick. So many people here are angry and upset, and want to have it out with you once and for all. If everyone here is anything like me, they'd give anything and everything for one little nod of the head from you, saying "don't give up yet, it'll get better". But for some it's just been too long.
I've been thinking about this when I was at Spring Harvest. I know in my head that you only want what's best for me. Mentally I know you're there looking out for me. I even know in my head that you have a plan. But I'm having a damn hard time believing it in my heart. Why is it that when I just want a little reassurance and I cry out to you, I get nothing back? One word would give me peace enough to keep on going. But instead I have to lie in bed for hours on end crying, or drag a razor blade across my skin, because I can't cope.
You really were my last hope. Now I'm about to give you the old middle finger, but I've no clue where I'm going now.
Bastard.
Amorya North
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Golden Key
Shipmate
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Hugs to everyone--or waves from a safe distance, if you prefer.
Amorya, please don't hurt yourself!
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Blessed Gator, pray for us!
--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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sophs
Sardonic Angel
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Amoyra. Stop it now.
Please?
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jlg
What is this place?
Why am I here?
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Amorya, please post again and let us know if you're OK or not.
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chiefssuperfan
Apprentice
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I'm glad I found this site, and am looking forward to reading the posts, and getting to know the regs.
As for the subject of "Divine goodness in light of human suffering" like everyone else in the world I too have struggled with it. I've found few answers except to understand faith as a trust in God even and especially when belief and feelings clash. Who wins in that arena seems to me to be the most defining element of one's spirituality.
I'm a pastor who ministers from an evangelical (some might even call "fundamental") perspective. About four years ago, my five year old daughter was sexually molested by a teen member of our church youth group--a young man whom I not only baptized but also permitted in my home since his was somewhat lacking in love and example. I still tear up as I go back to that time. It would be accurate to say I lost my faith for a period of time. I recall pulling off the highway and clamoring angry shouts heavenward. "God did you fall asleep on the watch? I entrusted my children to you. How could you possibly have permitted this to happen?" I received no answers. As the weeks passed my marriage suffered--I think my wife and I in part were blaming ourselves as well as one another for the event. I continued to ascend to the pulpit several times a week as always. But now all seemed hollow. In my highway outburst to God I had told Him to leave me alone. "Let me quit the ministry. I'm sick of it all."
I wish I could share some sort of epiphany. All I can say is that I survived it. So has my marriage. Since then I've realized that the real victim was my child. The more I focussed on my heartache, the less I felt hers. As such I believe I was acting in a narcisistic manner. Is that a bit harsh? Probably. But to revisit the Psalmist David's "rantings" against the Lord amid the wicked's prosperity, I think it important to note his journey along the same path of anger to hurt to hollowness to pretension to brokenness and finally to restored faith.
During a period of particular darkness one of our dearest friends behaved like Job's. "You should forgive the perpetrator and trust God," offering his confident counsel.
"No, I don't think so. Not yet," I replied. Interestingly, my help came not from him--he who had never been there or who forgot what it was like to be in that dark place--but from another friend who said, "You know what, Scott, you may never forgive the perpetrator, and you may never understand the Lord's role in allowing your daughter's suffering."
In the end, I've remained in the ministry, and when another person echoes the same dismal sentiments towards God, I feel it with them. I'm thinking that's a good and helpful thing. As for my own belief--its never been stronger. I believe God is good. I believe God is all-powerful. And, I believe God allows bad stuff to happen to the innocent. Which is what I knew before it all began--but now I have faith in those truths.
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The typo slayer
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I believe God is good. I believe God is all-powerful. And, I believe God allows bad stuff to happen to the innocent. Which is what I knew before it all began--but now I have faith in those truths.
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Gosh. What an opening post. May I take the little I've quoted and use it as a signature?
Peronel
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Lord, I have sinned, and mine iniquity.
Deserves this hell; yet Lord deliver me.
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chiefssuperfan
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Sure. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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God Bless Ya'll :)
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Nightlamp
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Welcome chiefssuperfan to the Ship the guidlines for the site are found here and for hell here . Can I suggest you have a good look around you will notice that each board has a distinctive character so have a good read around.
Nightlamp
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I don't know what you are talking about so it couldn't have been that important- Nightlamp
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Amorya
Ship's tame galoot
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quote:
Originally posted by jlg:
Amorya, please post again and let us know if you're OK or not.
Ok, sorry everyone for that post. I'm ok, honestly - don't worry 'bout me. I was just having a bad night.
I'm fine – really!
Amorya
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Golden Key
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Chiefssuperfan, you might want to take a look at the book "Survivor Prayers" by Rev. Catherine Foote. (Herself a survivor of childhood sexual abuse.)
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Blessed Gator, pray for us!
--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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Kelly Alves
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Nice post, chiefssuperfan.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Caz...
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Why is it the words "stop it now" induce such a FUCKING RAGE in me??????? I'm an adult in hell, goddamnit and I'll do whatever I fucking well like.
And now I'll be all British and say sorry. Sorry.
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jlg
What is this place?
Why am I here?
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quote:
Originally posted by Amorya:
quote:
Originally posted by jlg:
Amorya, please post again and let us know if you're OK or not.
Ok, sorry everyone for that post. I'm ok, honestly - don't worry 'bout me. I was just having a bad night.
I'm fine – really!
Amorya
Thanks for checking back in. After I posted that, I noticed in All Saints that your in the middle of exams, so I wasn't so worried. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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jlg
What is this place?
Why am I here?
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I swear I typed 'you're', not 'your'.
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ChrisT
One of the Good Guys™
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Shit, God, what are you playing at? Haven't these people had enough? Just one positive thing is all we ask. Just one word instead of silence. Just one glance instead of ignoring us. Just one touch intead of absence.
And while I have your attention, I'll just say once again; why?
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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Amen.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Saint Osmund
Pontifex sariburiensis
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I'm sick of it. I really am. I could cope with the knowledge that it's always going to be shit, but it's the raising my hopes then dashing them again that I can't cope with. I just want to cry.
I'm here at work trying to be pleasant to people, and I really just can't keep up the facade anymore. I'm alternating between being upset, and being really fucked off and GOD'S JUST TAKING THE PISS!!!!!
For all the hurt, for all the pain, for the raised and dashed hopes, God; all I have to say is:
and also with you!!!!
RC
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sophs
Sardonic Angel
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Just let me give up God.
That is all i'm asking for now. I know I'll never be the person everyone wants me to be, i know i'll never be the person everyone sees...there is nothing left now god...nothing at all...i believed that it would change, even after yelling and crying and tying to die, i still somehow believed that you could love, that you did love.
Now i give up. I can't cope with this fucked up world any more, i don't WANT to cope with this fucked up world...
But in some sick way, you won't even let me die will you? My one fucking prayer and you won't answer it...
Why? WHY? WHY? WHY?????
why did every that happened happen? why did you let it happen? why? why? why? why?
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Nanny Ogg
Ship's cushion
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Right God - you got time?
I know I must sound ungrateful for getting through recent months but things haven't moved on have they?
What happened to all those promises you made - about things being different? About things moving on? All this "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you a hope and a future"?
I mean I still have nothing - no job, money, home, love, marriage. It's all been taken away from me and yes, I'm angry
Seems the more I try and trust you the more you throw shit at me. Why can't you throw the shit elsewhere for a change cos I'm sick of being on the receiving end.
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Buy me a beer and I'm you friend forever
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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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Originally posted by The Wonderful Nanny Ogg:
All this "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you a hope and a future"?
Oh, you've been given this shit by people too? It's a standard verse given by well-meaning christians who have no idea what the fuck to say to you, and quite frankly, can't cope with all your shit.
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“Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar.”
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Emma Louise
Storm in a teapot
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BIG GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR GOD
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Emma Louise
Storm in a teapot
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its been helpful tagging along, reading these boards... knowing Im not alone...
Heck - one of sarkys posts nearly made me cry (if i could cry).... what is the world coming too???
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sophs
Sardonic Angel
# 2296
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Fuck you God
More reasons to die are exactly what i need right now aren't they...
When i'm right on the edge you just give me the little push that will send me falling.
Is that what you want God?
Do you want me to die?
Would it make you happy?
Bastard.
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Golden Key
Shipmate
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God,
you know I *want* you to be there.
But--at this point--it's mostly in spite of, not because of religion. Any religion.
The promises don't hold. The world hurts too much. Too much crap has been said in your name.
If you care about us in any healthy way, then you need to start straightening all of this out and letting us know what's going on and who you are. Otherwise, we just keep getting broken over and over--and so does our faith.
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Blessed Gator, pray for us!
--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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