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Thread: Hell: Control of racism, how far is too far?
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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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Originally posted by Erin:
RooK, you old sweet talker, you. But you and Sarky can breathe a sigh of relief that we managed to scare everyone away from the thread and it can die now. And we won't even charge you for it.
And here was me waiting for tomb to post, as this thread appears to be the current Hellhost party thread ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
So, to sum up:
Americans (and Alaric) believe one thing.
Brits and Aussies believe something else.
Sharkshooter has made two idiotic posts in Hell today.
Everyone* is bored of going round in circles.
Does anyone have anything new and on topic to contribute before a hellhost kills this sorry excuse for a thread?
Sarkycow, hellhost
*For the purpose of this summary, I'm going to tell you all what to believe: You're all bored of going round in circles.
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Grits
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The Canadians were unable to get involved in this discussion because they're apparently all stoned.
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The Riv
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Well, some were stoned. The rest were just stuck in American rush hour traffic. They just popped down to say hello, you see. Nothing pressing. Neighborly.
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Nonpropheteer
6 Syllable Master
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Originally posted by Mr Callan:
This is a somewhat less than compelling analogy. Unless you think that Nazis are really loveable, madcap curmudgeons who, given half a chance, will ply black people with apple juice and play cards with them. In which case it's no wonder you people were two years late for the Second World War.
The majority of German citizens were at one time members of the Nazi party. Yet some card carrying members of the Nazi party actually helped jews and others escape capture. Likewise there are many different people that belong to many different groups for many different reasons.
I find it interesting that the only hate groups mentioned here and railed against are those that "white" people would belong to. Out of curiosity, should we probe as deeply into minority groups and individuals?
NP
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Callan
Shipmate
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Originally posted by Non-propheteer:
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The majority of German citizens were at one time members of the Nazi party. Yet some card carrying members of the Nazi party actually helped jews and others escape capture. Likewise there are many different people that belong to many different groups for many different reasons.
I find it interesting that the only hate groups mentioned here and railed against are those that "white" people would belong to. Out of curiosity, should we probe as deeply into minority groups and individuals?
NP - my own view is that it is not possible for a member of Her Majesty's Constabulary to do his or her job properly if he or she is a member of a far right organisation. Broadly speaking British shipmates are prepared to work on this assumption, US shipmates (and Alaric) argue that it is unjust to make such an assumption unless we have got hard evidence from the persons behaviour. We say the act of joining the BNP is such an action. You beg to differ. You pays yer money and you takes yer choice. I don't think that either of us are going to find irrefutable knock down arguments that demonstrate conclusively that the other is wrong.
Black racism isn't, at present, a live issue. But I would object equally strongly to commissioning as a police officer a man or woman who held similar views about white people as the BNP do about blacks.
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dyfrig
Blue Scarfed Menace
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Originally posted by Scot:
It is wrong to discipline employees on the sole basis of their beliefs, associations, or the actions of their peers. People should be judged on their actions, not what we think their future actions might be.
That's all.
This is what I believe also. I happen to belive that saying "I hate Pakis" is an action upon which someone can be judged.
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Atmospheric Skull
Antlered Bone-Visage
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Originally posted by Nightlamp:
There would seem to be room to start a thread on this subject in purgatory.
If this is in response to my earlier question, then thank you. It would be interesting to get some Purgatorial perspectives on all this.
Given how fed up everyone seems to be with this thread, though, I might wait a few days before starting such a thread myself. If someone else wants to in the meantime, then fair enough.
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IntellectByProxy
Larger than you think
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Originally posted by Erin:
If you need further help with your English you just let me know.
Red.rag.bull.can.open.worms.everywhere.
I think this thread has pretty much proven that Americans and Brits* (apart from Alaric, the ratbastard traitor) are very different.
In the red corner we have absolute freedom of speech, no holds barred kick-em-in-the-bollocks freestyle brawling, and in the blue corner we have freedom of speech as long as it doesn't offend me or talk too loudly in libraries, Marquis of Queensbury rules fisticuffs.
So while you guys might win the fight, you play dirty and we'd rather have cleanly restricted fighting, and lose, than hell-for-leather brawling and win.
It has been most enjoyable, thankyou.
[ * and Eire. Edited because I forgot that there were some Southern Irish people here too, sorry]
[ 07. November 2003, 09:22: Message edited by: IntellectByProxy ]
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Alaric the Goth
Shipmate
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Oooh! ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) Never been called a 'ratbastard traitor before. And the strange thing is, I'm not offended! (on the assumption that it was said tongue-in-cheek! ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) )
Very ironic to call me that, given the 'dodgy nationalist' tag that ken once used of me. (Where has said ken been on this thread, btw? I would expect to see him here given what he has posted elsewhere. Has he not posted because it would be liable to cause him to explode? ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif) )
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Erin
Meaner than Godzilla
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Did IBP just call me a red?
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Robert Porter-Miller
Tiocfaidh Separabit
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Originally posted by IntellectByProxy:
[ * and Eire. Edited because I forgot that there were some Southern Irish people here too, sorry]
You've just been oppressing us for so long that we have had to learn to fight by your rules
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IntellectByProxy
Larger than you think
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Originally posted by Erin:
Did IBP just call me a red?
No, I said you were in the red corner. That's a whole different kettle of fish.
Just because you exhibit red behaviour doesn't mean you are red.
Or something like that.
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Wood
The Milkman of Human Kindness
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Originally posted by some bloody colonial:
Oh, great. I bet Erin deliberately transmogrified into the razor-fanged possumivore just to prove my previous statement naive. I also bet Wood was in on it. Both your self-righteous banshee acts don't fool me.
Oh, go pleasure a moose.
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Nonpropheteer
6 Syllable Master
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Originally posted by Bongo:
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Originally posted by Scot:
Of course there are exceptions. They should be dealt with immediately and firmly.
Er, the Lawrence Inquiry found that the entire Metropolitan (Greater London) police force is "institutionally racist."
...and the McCarthy inquiry found Hollywood to be filled with communist pinkos intent on the destruction of the American system. Perhaps we should go less by what other people tell us and ust insist that our civil rights be recognized?
Governments always use fear tactics to talk you into forgoing your privacy and other rights. How, exactly, did they prove the racism?
NP
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Nonpropheteer
6 Syllable Master
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Originally posted by Wood:
Oh, go pleasure a moose.
Ah... the rabid intellectual strikes again. Bloody Colonial must be absolutely seething at this point, probably so much so he cannot respond. Well done, Wood, well done indeed.
NP
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Wood
The Milkman of Human Kindness
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Originally posted by nonpropheteer:
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Originally posted by Wood:
Oh, go pleasure a moose.
Ah... the rabid intellectual strikes again. Bloody Colonial must be absolutely seething at this point, probably so much so he cannot respond. Well done, Wood, well done indeed.
NP
Nurse? NURSE!
Quick! this man's sense of humour has gone into spasm...
No, it's gone.
What's that, you say? Dead for months? Really. Gosh. Shame.
PS. Bloody Colonial - you can have Sven if you like. Although I'm sure you have plenty of choice.
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Sarkycow
La belle Dame sans merci
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Punctures thread with hostly toasting fork
Well, we've all had our fun. Apart from NP, who's just shown us all how stupid he can be.
Time for this gee-gee to be put down I think.
Sarkycow, the humane hellhost
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