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Source: (consider it) Thread: Heaven: Advice for new Apprentices
Left at the Altar

Ship's Siren
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Preferably, the first thread you start should also be your first post.
Hell is an excellent place to start, and you should choose a topic in which you are looking for a bit of sympathy. You can dress it up a bit as righteous indignation.
When another shipmate offers some advice/soothing words, respond with more whining and go into detail about how you have been wronged.
If a big, nasty HellHost comes in and calls you horrid names, respond by telling him that he has acted like a $@^%$@ who should show you sympathy. Tell him though, that despite his failings, the Lord loves him, and so do you, because that is the way humans should act towards each other. HellHosts like it when you demonstrate the proper way to act.
This will make you both best friends. [Smile]

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Jen.

Godless Liberal
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Tell people how you feel, all the time.

It is a community you know. they want to hear it.

J

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Eutychus
From the edge
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quote:
Originally posted by Left at the altar:
Preferably, the first thread you start should also be your first post.

[Hot and Hormonal]

I have never looked back.

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Scarlet

Mellon Collie
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When you approach a thread in Hell, be prepared to either sell concessions, or add to the merriment of the party already in progress. Everyone, including the hosts, loves to see plenty of popcorn, beer, hard liquor, and snacks being passed around and consumed.

Making frequest editorial asides regarding the posts will also earn you the attention you so crave. [Smile]

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They took from their surroundings what was needed... and made of it something more.
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Gremlin
Ship's Cryptanalyst
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Sarcasm is the lingua franca of the Internet, and is particularly useful when discussing theology with Shipmates.

Gremlin

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Ahhh...I see the screw-up fairy has visited us again...
Oh I get it... like humour... but different.

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Jen.

Godless Liberal
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Its ok to post really long words, the boards are like word, it cuts off at the end of the line.

It never breaks the horizontal scroll.

J

[edited due to the fact that maybe it isn't funny to break the horizontal scroll on purpose. [Hot and Hormonal] ]

[ 07. January 2004, 20:44: Message edited by: .Jenny ]

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Alan Cresswell

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The Ship is, despite appearances, actually a dating agency. To truely be a part of this community you need to fall in love and announce your engagement.

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Scarlet

Mellon Collie
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quote:
Originally posted by Annie P:
Erin frequently attends US shipmeets. Oh and Erin is male.

Not only that, but he's really old.

Oh, and I forgot - he's an Arizona fan...

[ 07. January 2004, 20:46: Message edited by: bessie rosebride ]

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Annie P

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Always go out of your way to stick up for any trolls who may post on the ship from time to time. After all, remember, this is a Christian site.

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Callan
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Remember - Purgatory may be a debate space but it's not just for pointy headed intellectuals. You may know less than the other contributors but do call them "fuckwits" if you disagree with them but can't think of a pertinent argument.

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How easy it would be to live in England, if only one did not love her. - G.K. Chesterton

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Left at the Altar

Ship's Siren
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Another good first post is to go to The Styx and start a thread about what is wrong with the Ship and how it could be more efficiently managed.
To assist the administrators, refer to each board and point out, in reasonably diplomatic language, how the hosts could improve. Quote the commandments and guidelines to show precisely where the hosts are letting things slip a bit.

In the Circus, join in a game without reading the first post, which contains unnecessary detail. People love it when you play "blind" because it takes the threads off on such interesting tangents.

[ 07. January 2004, 21:10: Message edited by: Left at the altar ]

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welsh dragon

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Only post a rant in Hell about something really important that you might legitimately be expected to feel angry about e.g. stubbing your toe or not winning the lottery.

If a bomb falls on your house and blows off your legs and you post about how inchoately, gut-wrenchingly fraught and furious that makes you feel, then that is "whining".

If someone is "whining" about something they think is important in their life on a Hell thread, then it is a really good idea to go and tell them to cheer up and smell the coffee.

If they swear at you, then you should say how enormously surprised you are...

...after all it *is* a Christian website...

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Paul W.

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Under-endowed men should confide in Pyx_e, who will show you great sympathy and support.

Paul W

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welsh dragon

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Depressed people should seek out a Hellhost in whom to confide.

Nightlamp in particular has a special interest in Rogerian counselling.

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Arrietty

Ship's borrower
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It's always helpful to point out spelling and syntax errors by other shipmates, after all we are a learning community.

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i-church

Online Mission and Ministry

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shoewoman
Shipmate
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Use as many abbrevs as possible, everybody enjoys the guessing game. If you find this too much trouble, careless spelling will do nicely. We are deeply impressed by extensive usage of foreign languages as well.

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Paul W.

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There is no-one called Wood on these boards.

Paul W

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Grits
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Do a little research and find out the names and platforms of some past banned Shipmates. Talk about how you miss them and what a contribution they made to the Ship, rehashing what they did wrong and how they were treated unfairly. Be sure to indite as many hosts and admins in the process as possible. Everyone will be truly supportive -- I promise.

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Arrietty

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Please do feel free to comment on the mental state of other posters and hand out unsolicited advice about how to run their lives. Erin in particular always welcomes being psychoanalysed by someone she's never met.

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i-church

Online Mission and Ministry

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Paul W.

Shipmate
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These forums are the Ship-of-Fools, the actual magazine part of the site is just a sideline. You don't ever need to bother looking at it.

In fact, the most important part of the boards is the Mystery Worshipper forum. You can best play an active role in the community of the Ship by only ever posting on that forum. Don't bother reading the Styx, it's pointless and boring.

Paul W

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Ags

Knocked up
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Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to annoy Alan to the extent that he uses the 'F' word.
You get extra points for that.

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Timothy the Obscure

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Find a thread that was very contentious and ran at least three pages, but that no one has posted to for at least a week. Add a lengthy post addressing a critical issue that everyone else overlooked while they were prooftexting, typing Greek letters, and calling each other to Hell. They will admire your acute insight and be grateful that you did not let an important thread die with vital matters unresolved.

Timothy

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Flausa

Mad Woman
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If shipmates disagree with you on one thread, go complain about it on an entirely unrelated thread. You're sure to find sympathy if you whine loud enough and long enough.
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Janine

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And always make sure to promote other boards, other Webzines, other forums and websites and threads, oh my!

Don't bother with useful references to places that do not compete with the Ship-- stick to actually recruiting for and promoting foreign websites.

Post lots of links. Extra points if the things to which you link are time-sensitive and go away, leaving lots of broken links on the thread. More extra points if you link to questionable sites.

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Lyda*Rose

Ship's broken porthole
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Complain vociferously about the Ship's In Crowd without having the balls to name Names.

The fricking snots know who They, themselves, are. [Paranoid]

You know- the ones who are exchanging billions and billions of PMs (about us losers [Waterworks] ), know all the in-jokes, and are the life-of-the-party at the Shipmeets that are thrown especially for them at chi-chi resturants.

Those guys.

The turds. [Mad]

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"Dear God, whose name I do not know - thank you for my life. I forgot how BIG... thank you. Thank you for my life." ~from Joe Vs the Volcano

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Alan Cresswell

Mad Scientist 先生
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If you're a member of another board where you are engaged in some hum-dinger of a slanging match, come here and start a thread to recruit people to sign up there to help you out.

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anglicanrascal
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
If you're a member of another board where you are engaged in some hum-dinger of a slanging match, come here and start a thread to recruit people to sign up there to help you out.

And if you are engaged in a hum-dinger of a slanging match on these boards (especially with management), recruit people from other boards to join your side over here!

Pax,
anglicanrascal
who has been reading the history of the Ship!

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Ariel
Shipmate
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There are two great games that surface from time to time which will give you extra street cred. One is called Famous Last Posts, where you try to post on every board in quick succession so that your name shows up on every line of the Recent Posts index. It doesn't matter what you post, even if it's just "Hello" or "Oops I'm on the wrong thread", so long as you get your name on it. The other is called All Around The Houses, where you start a thread on one board then try to get it moved to different boards. Extra points for doing this with the minimum amount of posts, and for getting it moved to more than two other boards before you're rumbled. (I think the record is currently five.) Extra special points for anyone who does a minimum of three boards then gets it moved into Dead Horses and Limbo.
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Jen.

Godless Liberal
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Mornington crescent is a great game and all hosts love it if you start this game anywhere on the boards.

try it, go on, you know you want to...

J

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Talitha
Shipmate
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If you think someone is a troll, go to every thread they've posted on and yell "TROLL! TROLL!" If enough people do this, the admins will eventually notice the troll and ban them, Otherwise, they will be free to roam the ship and wreak havoc.

The hosts do not read the threads; they use automatic word-recognition software. So if you want to swear at people in Purgatory, or make racist or homophobic comments, it's okay as long as you spell them wrong.

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Arrietty

Ship's borrower
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SOF is always happy to provide a forum for those who wish to 'act out' their loathing of a certain form of Christianity or Christianity in general. Please feel free to post scathing criticisms of other posters regardless of the topic under discussion on the basis of their perceived beliefs. It all contriubtes to the 'Christian unrest'.

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i-church

Online Mission and Ministry

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Jen.

Godless Liberal
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snice terhe is a teorhy taht you can selpl wrdos any way you wnat as lnog as you hvae the frsit and lsat lttrees in the crreoct palce, tihs is apectlbice wehn you psot.

J

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Arrietty

Ship's borrower
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Si taht a dgi ta me, Nenjy?

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i-church

Online Mission and Ministry

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Jen.

Godless Liberal
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quote:
Originally posted by Arrietty:
Si taht a dgi ta me, Nenjy?

no,

I didn't mean it to come across like that. sorry.

J

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Alan Cresswell

Mad Scientist 先生
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Never admit to making a mistake. Never apologise. It just makes it look like you don't know what you're talking about.

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Michal
Shipmate
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Be sure to remind yourself constantly that the three years of lurking on the boards, reading numerous threads and responses by board hosts does not in any way give you any insight into the personalities on board.

Do not ever mention that you remember "the good old days" when the Ship celebrated the arrival of its 1,000th member or when there was a Shipmate named Wood.

Pretend you know nothing about anything. Be nice. Avoid being called to Hell at all costs. Enjoy the circus.

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Pyx_e

Quixotic Tilter
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Ariel said:
quote:
There are two great games that surface from time to time which will give you extra street cred. One is called Famous Last Posts, where you try to post on every board in quick succession so that your name shows up on every line of the Recent Posts index. It doesn't matter what you post, even if it's just "Hello" or "Oops I'm on the wrong thread", so long as you get your name on it.
So you still have not managed it then. [Big Grin]

P

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Lyda*Rose

Ship's broken porthole
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Good basic rules for getting respect and getting your point across in Hell:
  • Always be serious and take offense at any jocularity aimed at yourself or your friends.
  • Try to stay above the coarse antics of the so-called Christians mocking your reasonable arguments. After all, Hell really is just a more intense Purgatory.
  • If your opponents bait you into revealing your ire, take a tone of righteous indignation.
  • If they further tempt to to lower yourself to their level and you find yourself behaving in a way your parents and your pastor always said was Wrong, remember It's not your fault- it's theirs.
  • Never give way on any particular of your argument. No apologies. No hedging. They'd only lord it over you which would be intolerable.
  • Lastly, as others have mentioned, the classic denoument is to announce you are leaving the Ship. To do it thoroughly, announce on the Hell thread, in Styx, in All Saints, on that Purg/MW/Keryg thread you've been nattering on for ages (to explain why you can't finish the discussion), and a really good touch is to leave a maudlin message of farewell to your friends on the "sermon" on your profile page.
  • Anticlimatically, lurk to see how everyone is taking your departure and make a brief re-appearance if people aren't being respectful enough.


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Arrietty

Ship's borrower
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quote:
Originally posted by .Jenny:
quote:
Originally posted by Arrietty:
Si taht a dgi ta me, Nenjy?

no,

I didn't mean it to come across like that. sorry.

J

I should have put a smilie in, it was a joke!
[Biased] [Razz] [Hot and Hormonal] [Yipee] [Cool]

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Online Mission and Ministry

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Jen.

Godless Liberal
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ok.

another rule for apprentices...

being thin skinned is a good thing. especially in hell. taking things to heart is shows you are a sensitive soul.

J

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welsh dragon

Shipmate
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[Overused] [Overused] [Overused] [Overused] [Overused] [Overused] [Overused] [Overused]

(this sort of post is a very good idea)

[ 08. January 2004, 19:50: Message edited by: welsh dragon ]

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Miffy

Ship's elephant
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[Axe murder] [Axe murder] [Axe murder] [Axe murder] [Axe murder] [Axe murder] [Axe murder] [Axe murder]

(As is this)

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welsh dragon

Shipmate
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I so totally agree Miffy, that is absolutely the most amazing and wonderful post I have ever read in my entire life and the history of the world.

(as is this).

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Miffy

Ship's elephant
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[Devil]

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"I don't feel like smiling." "You're English dear; fake it!" (Colin Firth "Easy Virtue")
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balaam

Making an ass of myself
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This site is about Christian unrest. Posters should be unrestful about everything, especially board policy.

In the interest of unrestfulness it is therfore compulsory to question everything a host, administrator and especially board editor says.

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Alt Wally

Cardinal Ximinez
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If you disagree with someone, it's probably because that person isn't a Christian (even if they claim to be). It is your duty to inform them of this.
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Grits
Compassionate fundamentalist
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And, if you find out they are, indeed, not a Christian, well... you've already been advised of the open conversion policy.

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Chapelhead*

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The benefits of owning an SUV is a great thread subject.

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MrSponge2U

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As we believe our political leaders (especially the conservative ones) have been chosen by God, they should never be criticized in any way.

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Flausa

Mad Woman
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Stating frequently "I've nothing to add to this thread, but I'm just letting you know that I'm here," is a great way to boost your post count.
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