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Thread: Hell: Just curious: Narcissism Strikes Back partIV - the babbling
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RooK
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So be it. If High Mistress josephine chooses to acknowledge Her true position as Prime Bully of Hell, even though this has previously been carefully kept secret from everyone in Hell, I shall not countermand Her will. Long live the Queen of the Identical Drones!
Thomas, I consider myself superior to you because I'm smarter than you. A lot smarter. Really really a lot smarter. I write gooder too.
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Spiffy
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quote: Originally posted by josephine: No, RooK, I'm not a goodie-goodie. I'm a bully. ThomasDF said so. I've taken over Hell as my own personal playground, and I've bullied everyone here into following my rules!
She is Josephine of Borg. Resistance is futile. All your thoughts, all your technology, all your feelings will belong to us.
Or is that 'all your base are belong to us'?
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Grits
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quote: Originally posted by Rat: Can I wear silver during the day (or at all)?
You don't need Sine for this, dearie. Silver is good, all the time. Trust me. It's the new gold.
-------------------- Lord, fill my mouth with worthwhile stuff, and shut it when I've said enough. Amen.
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Campbellite
Ut unum sint
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quote: Originally posted by ThomasDF: We can go with this little power struggle ....
Thomas
Just an observation. It appears that Tommy has issues with authority. He has stated (as above) that he "will not surrender, or submit to anyone".
I used to say the same thing.
When I was two years old. [ 28. May 2004, 22:03: Message edited by: Campbellite ]
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Sine Nomine*
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quote: Originally posted by ThomasDF: Sine: Yes, there is one other thing you should always remember. Tuck those extra parts. A lady should never walk around with her dress looking like a tent.
Thanks, Thomas. I really appreciate the tip, being new at this. (Since last night, actually.) As a neophyte, I'd be grateful for any other hints you could pass on for successful drag.
(I can tell we're going to be friends already, have so many common interests.)
Just a wild stab in the dark, but I'm guessing Thomas brings down the house doing Gloria Gaynor's version of "I am what I am". I bet they're lined up to the back bar to stick dollar bills down his decolletage.
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RooK
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I see he's back in Hell. Brace for stupidity.
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Sine Nomine*
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quote: Originally posted by RooK: As it turns out, all my friends are girls.
Funny. So are mine. Do they ask you to go shopping with them? That's a bad sign.
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RooK
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quote: Originally posted by Sine Nomine: Funny. So are mine. Do they ask you to go shopping with them? That's a bad sign.
Well, that triggers some PTSD. Who would have thought the word "fun" could be so horribly misused. "Aren't these shoes fun looking?" Actually, no. Mostly because they're the three-billionth pair you've tried on so far.
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Josephine
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quote: Originally posted by RooK: So be it. If High Mistress josephine chooses to acknowledge Her true position as Prime Bully of Hell, even though this has previously been carefully kept secret from everyone in Hell, I shall not countermand Her will. Long live the Queen of the Identical Drones!
Oh, RooK, thank you! I've been thinking that I really need to get a custom avatar and title, but I just couldn't come up with anything that I liked. Prime Bully of Hell and Queen of the Identical Drones -- I like it!
Or maybe the other way around: Queen of the Identical Drones and Prime Bully of Hell.
Sine, Grits -- I'm not much on making fashion choices. Which do you think fits better? And can you suggest an avatar to go with it?
-------------------- I've written a book! Catherine's Pascha: A celebration of Easter in the Orthodox Church. It's a lovely book for children. Take a look!
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Sine Nomine*
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quote: Originally posted by Rat: Sine, I am worried about this jewelry thing. I don't like gold, and can't afford platinum. Can I wear silver during the day (or at all)?
Moving on to more serious matters...
Silver would be fine during the day especially in Edinburgh, I would think. But at the risk of contradicting Grits I wouldn't try it at night unless it was very clunky and artistic looking. You'd also probably have to put a lot of gel in your hair so you looked avant-garde rather than just poor.
If you can't afford platinum, buying some reasonably priced antique Victorian jet jewelry would be a better solution in my opinion. Also useful for mourning so you'd get a lot of bang for your buck.
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Suze
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quote: Originally posted by ThomasDF: Suze: Talk about not having a clue. What do you think a proof reader is for? Those college educated folks get a measly fifty or so bucks an hour for knowing spelling, grammar and punctuation. and that comes out of petty cash. Get on my good side and maybe I'll tell you what screenwriting is really about.
Oh I get it, someone else does the tough stuff for you so you can just spew out more of the same, that explains a lot really.
Tell you what though, you tell me all you know about screenwriting and I'll tell you all I know nuclear physics - the similarity being I know fuck all about it so we should be evenly matched - bet you still finish first though! [ 28. May 2004, 22:50: Message edited by: Suze ]
-------------------- ' You stay here and I'll go look for God, that won't be hard cos I know where he's not, and I will bring him back with me , then he'll listen , then he'll see' Richard Shindell
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Sine Nomine*
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quote: Originally posted by Suze: bet you still finish first though!
Bet not. One thing we've already learned is ThomasDF never sends one word out to do battle when he can send six. It's kinda like cicadas.
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RooK
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Of course, there might be a frightening amount of repitition in those six words...
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Sine Nomine*
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quote: Originally posted by josephine: Sine, Grits -- I'm not much on making fashion choices. Which do you think fits better? And can you suggest an avatar to go with it?
I'd say "ask your husband" but he didn't even realize you wore make-up in your photograph. I think such a serious topic deserves it's own thread in Heaven.
The couture avatar is getting quite competitive and we wouldn't want you out in public in one that wasn't exactly right.
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Grits
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quote: I wouldn't try it at night unless it was very clunky and artistic looking.
I'm telling you, Sine -- silver is in, In, IN. Yes, big and chunky or very artsy is best for evening, but nothing looks more smashing on black than silver. quote: Sine, Grits -- I'm not much on making fashion choices. Which do you think fits better? And can you suggest an avatar to go with it?
Josephine, it's got to be this lady, er... woman, er... historical figure. Yikes. Has there ever been a bigger bully than this queen?
And, Suze... hush! You're going to give it away to Thomas that we all actually have gigantic IQs. Then he'll be intimated and run away.
-------------------- Lord, fill my mouth with worthwhile stuff, and shut it when I've said enough. Amen.
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ThomasDF
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quote: Originally posted by RooK: So be it. If High Mistress josephine chooses to acknowledge Her true position as Prime Bully of Hell, even though this has previously been carefully kept secret from everyone in Hell, I shall not countermand Her will. Long live the Queen of the Identical Drones!
Thomas, I consider myself superior to you because I'm smarter than you. A lot smarter. Really really a lot smarter. I write gooder too.
Have you ever studied cults? Their social order and tactics are very interesting. The leader(s) has a carefully honed persona of benevolence, sounding reasonable and caring. Then there are the organizers, the enforcers and followers. It's a very basic structure that I've seen adapted on the Internet. Oh yes, and when someone identifies this structure, the first thing the cult does is mock it. I do expect people to come back and laugh while twisting what I say and claim I'm calling this a cult, but the parallels are still there.
Even if you are really really a lot smarter than I and a much gooder writer, that still doesn't make a person superior, it only makes them luckier. There will always be others who are smarter and better at doing things. We have a long history of people believing they are superior and they are the reason for so much oppression, suffering and death.
Thomas
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Suze
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S'ok Grits, he won't notice anyway it's not like he's listened to anything else said around here.
[cross posted. Damn he's quick!] [ 28. May 2004, 23:16: Message edited by: Suze ]
-------------------- ' You stay here and I'll go look for God, that won't be hard cos I know where he's not, and I will bring him back with me , then he'll listen , then he'll see' Richard Shindell
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Eanswyth
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I figured out the screenwriter thing. He does the character and plot development for XXX porn. Two, three paragraphs, tops, and you it all done except for the, um, stage directions. Of course, he does have to hire someone to spell the big words.
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Sine Nomine*
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quote: Originally posted by ThomasDF: We have a long history of people believing they are superior and they are the reason for so much oppression, suffering and death.
I know! I know! "Schindler's List". Right?
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ThomasDF
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quote: Originally posted by Campbellite:
Just an observation. It appears that Tommy has issues with authority. He has stated (as above) that he "will not surrender, or submit to anyone".
What authority? Josephine? You can't be referring to the moderators because I have absolutely no way to resist their authority. Do tell, what authority does Josephine have other than influencing the moderators to limit or eliminate whoever does comply with her "culture" and "gods"?
Thomas
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ThomasDF
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quote: Originally posted by Suze:
Tell you what though, you tell me all you know about screenwriting and I'll tell you all I know nuclear physics - the similarity being I know fuck all about it so we should be evenly matched - bet you still finish first though!
What a silly way to try to get my goat. You know nothing about my career and this sort of thing only makes me laugh.
Thomas
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irreverentkit
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All hail, Josephine. All hail, Josephine. We have been assimilated. We have been assimilated.
(I guess I'm doing the Borg thing. Although if you promise I can look like Nicole Kidman, I'll happily join the Stepford Wives.)
Just another mindless drone beaten into submission by the bullies of Hell ...
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Grits
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That one is even better, Josephine, considering the Russian connection, and all!
And to Thomas... cult/community, potato/potahto. Whatever you call it, it's entertaining, it's educational, it PROMOTES THE INDIVIDUAL, it provides a universal arena for the sharing of ideas and personalities. In other words, it works. It's a home for people who are really the salt of the earth, but have issues with an overabundance of wit and sarcasm and a wicked tongue they don't get to use much IRL.
Now, be a nice boy, and go ahead and drink the Kool-Aid.
-------------------- Lord, fill my mouth with worthwhile stuff, and shut it when I've said enough. Amen.
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Kelly Alves
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I vote Tommy "Year's Best Unintentional Comedian"
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Grits
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Too many choices! You're on your own, Josephine!
-------------------- Lord, fill my mouth with worthwhile stuff, and shut it when I've said enough. Amen.
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Spiffy
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quote: Originally posted by Grits: Now, be a nice boy, and go ahead and drink the Kool-Aid.
P.S. to Tom: There are five lights.
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Sine Nomine*
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quote: Originally posted by ThomasDF: The leader(s) has a carefully honed persona of benevolence, sounding reasonable and caring.
WooKie!
(Sorry. I'm probably brain-washed. I need to go fix some Kool-Aid.)
[Damn it. I wanted to get there first.] [ 28. May 2004, 23:33: Message edited by: Sine Nomine ]
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Spiffy
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quote: Originally posted by Sine Nomine: (Sorry. I'm probably brain-washed. I need to go fix some Kool-Aid.)
[Damn it. I wanted to get there first.]
Sorry, Sine. But you could dress like the rest of us in Nikes and black pyjamas. The mother ship will be here soon to pick us all up.
P.S. to Tom: There are five lights.
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irreverentkit
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Oh, but the Kool-Aid is already made ...
Don't you want some?
Josephine wants you to drink some nice grape Kool-aid.
Now all of Josephine's Children should lie down in their family groupings and go to sleepybye ...
I obey Josephine. I am a mindless Identical Drone. Resistance is futile.
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Kelly Alves
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Josephine, I am feeling lost again. Can you send me a long PM telling me exactly what to do for the next two or three days? Like you usually do? Much thanks.
-------------------- I cannot expect people to believe “ Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.” Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Moo
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Thomas, why do you bother? You seem to be devoting a lot of time and energy to telling us what's wrong with the ship. Don't you have better things to do with your time? Do you honestly thing your criticism will have the effect of making us do things differently?
You seem to be saying that things should be done differently because you don't like the way they're done now. Why should we be interested in pleasing you?
Moo
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Suze
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quote: Originally posted by ThomasDF: What a silly way to try to get my goat. You know nothing about my career and this sort of thing only makes me laugh.
Only what I've read here.... and it's all been said before so I won't bother.
[edited to sort UBB before RooK gets me] [ 28. May 2004, 23:40: Message edited by: Suze ]
-------------------- ' You stay here and I'll go look for God, that won't be hard cos I know where he's not, and I will bring him back with me , then he'll listen , then he'll see' Richard Shindell
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RooK
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Listen, Moo. Do I barge into Kergymania and start demanding interpretations of Shogun and Sandman comics? No, I don't. Shoo.
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ThomasDF
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quote: Originally posted by Grits: And to Thomas... cult/community, potato/potahto. Whatever you call it, it's entertaining, it's educational, it PROMOTES THE INDIVIDUAL, it provides a universal arena for the sharing of ideas and personalities. In other words, it works. It's a home for people who are really the salt of the earth, but have issues with an overabundance of wit and sarcasm and a wicked tongue they don't get to use much IRL.
Now, be a nice boy, and go ahead and drink the Kool-Aid.
The individual? You're a very intelligent woman and you know exactly what I'm talking about. You know perfectly well that there is no room for an individual in this "culture". If there were, attempts would be made to understand an individual, but it is clear that the demand is "do it our way, period".
Interesting you mentioned Kool-Aid. I became interested in cults when I lived in San Francisco and lived just a few blocks away from Jim Jones' The People's Temple. I help friends who were terrorize by him and his thugs. Some I couldn't help and they died in Jonestown.
Thomas
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Sine Nomine*
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I bet babybear could make us all avatars with glowing eyes like the evil children in "Village of the Damned".
"Beware the stare that will paralyze the will of the world."
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Spiffy
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quote: Originally posted by ThomasDF: The individual? You're a very intelligent woman and you know exactly what I'm talking about. You know perfectly well that there is no room for an individual in this "culture".
Darn right there isn't. Now be a good little boy and say that there's five lights, and we'll stop torturing you.
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Grits
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffy: Sorry, Sine. But you could dress like the rest of us in Nikes and black pyjamas. The mother ship will be here soon to pick us all up.
And make sure there's $5.00 and some change in your pocket. quote: The leader(s) has a carefully honed persona of benevolence, sounding reasonable and caring.
Give the guy some credit. He's got this one spot on. (Hear my hysterical laughter? Must be the Red Dye #2 in the Kool-Aid.)
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Sine Nomine*
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quote: Originally posted by ThomasDF: Some I couldn't help and they died in Jonestown.
Ah, the "Gotcha!"
He does have extensive discussion board experience, doesn't he?
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Kelly Alves
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I study cults as well--kind of a hobby of mine. and the reason everyone is laughing at you,TDF, is because you couldn't have picked a less likely person to be a cult leader, to want to be a cult leader, or has anything in her that can be turned into a cult leader.
Sine, on the other hand, has the kind of smarmy charisma that really needs to be watched.
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-------------------- I cannot expect people to believe “ Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.” Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Spiffy
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quote: Originally posted by Kelly Alves: I study cults as well--kind of a hobby of mine. and the reason everyone is laughing at you,TDF, is because you couldn't have picked a less likely person to be a cult leader, to want to be a cult leader, or has anything in her that can be turned into a cult leader.
Sine, on the other hand, has the kind of smarmy charisma that really needs to be watched.
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I have a minor in Religious Studies focusing on New and Emerging Religious Movements. And I know that the quickest way to spot a cult leader is by the person pointing out others who are cult leaders.
So that puts Tom and Kelly at the top of the list.
P.S. Tom, just say there are five lights and it will all end.
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Kelly Alves
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Well, where is YOUR finger right now, Oh Spifficated one?
-------------------- I cannot expect people to believe “ Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.” Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Spiffy
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quote: Originally posted by Kelly Alves: Well, where is YOUR finger right now, Oh Spifficated one?
Up my nose.
Hey, you asked.
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Kelly Alves
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You are so my kinda gal, Spif.
-------------------- I cannot expect people to believe “ Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.” Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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ThomasDF
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quote: Originally posted by Moo: Thomas, why do you bother? You seem to be devoting a lot of time and energy to telling us what's wrong with the ship. Don't you have better things to do with your time? Do you honestly thing your criticism will have the effect of making us do things differently?
You seem to be saying that things should be done differently because you don't like the way they're done now. Why should we be interested in pleasing you?
Moo
This isn't about the ship. It's about a small group of people dominating a forum. When folks were having fun calling me a rebel without a clue, they were close. I am by nature a rebel and my entire life has been fighting what I saw was wrong. You would be surprised at how much I've accomplished in helping others and improving conditions. I'm not the kind of person who sees something wrong and walks away. This is certainly small in comparison to things I've fought, but I see it as important. I see that a lot of people have been wrongly accused and the abuse has certainly harmed.
When I see cruelty and viciousness on the net or in real life, I'll fight because it is my nature and my conscience. This has nothing to do with me.
Thomas
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Kelly Alves
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Of course you're not, dear.
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Suze
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quote: Originally posted by Sine Nomine: I'm not smarmy.
But you would make such a good cult leader IMHO.
-------------------- ' You stay here and I'll go look for God, that won't be hard cos I know where he's not, and I will bring him back with me , then he'll listen , then he'll see' Richard Shindell
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