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Linguo
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My mother once heard a very young priest telling the congo how "Jesus farted forty days in the wilderness". The tragedy was that nobody had noticed until he corrected himself...
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Wet Kipper
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My boss keeps talking about something "as apposed to" something else.....
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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If we're allowed to include Mothers, many of whom seem to gain a particular number of linguistic oddities about the same time they stop producing colostrum, we have:
War and Far for Wire and Fire Brought for Bought (owing to repeated corrections by over zealous children, she now emphasises the word "bought" to show she now says it correctly) Obsroclous for Obstreperous Cold Slaw. I loved that one. Well, you keep it in the fridge; it is cold, isn't it?
And the answer to many questions as a child was "It awe depends".
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Karin 3
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Your poor mum, Karl. I thought it was meant to be the other way round, although I've tried to restrain those tendencies so as not to sap my kids' confidence as they learnt to speak.
A classic the other day was a customer telling me how much she was enjoying listening to Bercause (like because with an "r"). It transpierd it was Berceuse.
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Matt Black
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On the pronunciation front, one that really annoys me is 'vunnrible' for vulnerable.
Matt
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dogwatch
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Mrs Dogwatch, who is slightly dyslexic, has a way with malapropisms, some of which have passed into the family vocabulary, rather like examples from the recent thread on the development of language in small children.
Among her best are "hunchback" for a 5-door car and "laptop dancer" for an employee in a men's club.
A propos the dyslexia, she once phoned BT's directory enquiries and asked for the number of the British Dyslexia Association. The BT employee asked, "Can you spell that?" You can imagine the answer.
Dogwatch
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dorothea
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When encountering this degree of pedantry, it heartens me to recall that Shakespeare had problems spelling his name.
You poor, poor babes.
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Matt Black
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'Substantial' and 'substantive' confusion is another bugbear of mine
Matt
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Don't forget "relative" and "relevant".
Number of times I've been told that a particular seminar is relative to my job...
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dogwatch
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quote: Originally posted by dorothea: When encountering this degree of pedantry, it heartens me to recall that Shakespeare had problems spelling his name.
Indeed - but I'll bet he knew how to pronounce it.
I had a BBC researcher phone me once to ask about my company's directors' "renumeration".
Hogwash? Dogsbreath? No, Dogwatch
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Sparrow
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quote: Originally posted by Matt Black: On the pronunciation front, one that really annoys me is 'vunnrible' for vulnerable.
Matt
Mine is "deteriate" for deteriorate - even heard it said that way by an announcer on the BBC 6pm news!
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Moo
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quote: Originally posted by dorothea: When encountering this degree of pedantry, it heartens me to recall that Shakespeare had problems spelling his name.
As I understand it, Shakespeare didn't have the idea that there was a "right" way to spell his name.
The idea of standardized spelling of names appears to have come later.
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churchgeek
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quote: Originally posted by m.t_tomb: In response to my being selfish: 'You think the world evolves around you.'
Ah, but isn't this the point of this thread? We all wish the world around us would evolve...
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Newman's Own
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Telling one on myself: though I do not do this when I 'hand write' letters, and normally catch the mistake if I type and then review anything in print, when I am posting on the Internet I often misspell words - or, more accurately, use the wrong form - if they sound alike. Typing "here" for "hear" is a common fault.
I made a huge blunder yesterday, when I was reading aloud from a theological work. The term used was 'living organisms'... the mistake I made with the second word probably means that this is one of those weeks when I'm finding my vowed celibacy difficult...
Have any of you heard people say 'acropolis' for 'apocalypse'? I know someone who does that all of the time. (I never heard of 'pacific' for 'specific' until I read this thread. Yet the priests among us have undoubtedly heard people say they wanted to 'make concession'... indeed, concession often is exactly what must be on their minds.)
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Matt Black
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'Respectfully' for 'respectively'
Matt
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churchgeek
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrow: Mine is "deteriate" for deteriorate - even heard it said that way by an announcer on the BBC 6pm news!
I worked at a TV station for a while, and became convinced that the folks in our news department went into TV journalism rather than print because they couldn't read or write.
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Atmospheric Skull
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Along the lines of Jajehu's "claret" experience:
ME: [To assistant in supermarket] Excuse me, where do you keep your humous? HIM: Our... ME: Houmous. HIM: Oh, the humorous. It's just over here, sir.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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If I read or hear one more person using "specie" as the singular of "species", or "phenomena" or "bacteria" as singulars, I shall probably blow a vessel.
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Mamacita
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I grew up calling parmesan cheese "par-MEE-zhun," as that's how my parents pronounced it. When a neighbor gave us some eggplant parmesan, we asked what the dish was called, and mom didn't understand her pronunciation of "Eggplant PAR-mi-zhan." When my mom wrote down the recipe later, she named the dish "Eggplant Pommijohn."
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Linguo
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quote: Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: If I read or hear one more person using "specie" as the singular of "species", or "phenomena" or "bacteria" as singulars, I shall probably blow a vessel.
Quite. And 'criterias' makes me want to kill someone...
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ORGANMEISTER
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I keep seeing memos from the church office addressed to the "Alter Guild"
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Captain Caveman
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Most people seem to be incapable of using the word 'fewer', replacing it with 'less'.
When I was about seven my teacher pointed to a picture on the classroom wall and said it was a typical street scene. "Now does anyone know what 'typical' means?". Little Caveman put his hand up and said, "It means when something's not very good." To my great disbelief I was told I was wrong. But that was how I had always heard the word used. "Oh that's just typical!"
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Newman's Own
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I don't know if this still is popular, but, in the days when I worked for the Roman Catholics, it was common to see reports such as "bishops and superiors to dialogue." Or to hear 'we dialogued.'
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Presleyterian
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Mark me down as a hater of:
- Feb-yoo-ary;
- supposably, rather that supposedly; and
- the misused reflexive, e.g., "Who was at the meeting? John, Mary, and myself."
And here's where I confess that for years I thought the phrase was "Don't take me for granite."
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melliethepooh
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is it feb-ru-rary or feb-ru-ary or feb-u-ary or what? I've heard it pronounced as many ways as possible and none more often than the other.
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Siena
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For years, I put folded garments into my "chester drawers" instead of my "chest of drawers."
And a secretary in our office painstaking typed a very detailed "foyer" request to a government agency, instead of a FOIA request - then told me she'd been doing it that way for years, and no one had ever said anything.
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Boopy
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quote: Originally posted by Amorya: quote: Originally posted by Boopy: As the party season is nearly upon us I have noticed this year that more and more people seem to think that 'invite' is a noun. Aaarrgh.
It is... it's in the OED
n. invite colloq.
[f. INVITE v.: cf. command, request, etc.]
1. The act of inviting; an invitation.
Amorya
Blast! Clearly one of those occasions when the OED is Plain Wrong.
At least they had the grace to agree it is a colloquialism.
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babybear
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quote: Originally posted by melliethepooh: is it feb-ru-rary or feb-ru-ary or feb-u-ary or what? I've heard it pronounced as many ways as possible and none more often than the other.
Feb-ru-ary, the clue is in the spelling. I have recently noticed how many people mis-pronounce "Wednesday" as "Wensday".
Quite a few years ago I went to a library to find a book on origami. The assistant told me that there probably wasn't a book specifically about origami, but she would be able to get me one in which it was mention.
She got me a book on culinary herbs! She couldn't hear the difference between oregano and origami.
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Talitha
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People mixing up horde and hoard. (OK, I suppose they both involve large quantities, but still.)
People saying "on X's behalf" instead of "on X's part". As in, "I thought that was really restrained on my behalf."
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ken
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quote: Originally posted by melliethepooh: is it feb-ru-rary or feb-ru-ary or feb-u-ary or what?
"FEBry"
Anything else is affectation and over-compensation.
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Laura
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I hate it when people say "he changed tact" instead of "tack".
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Pob
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quote: Originally posted by Laura: I hate it when people say "he changed tact" instead of "tack".
Oooh, I hate that too.
Or 'mind' instead of 'mine' - as in, 'He's a mind of useless information'.
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Sir Kevin
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Some people apparently don't know the difference between a sail boat and a sales quote! I do...
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balaam
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quote: Originally posted by babybear: I have recently noticed how many people mis-pronounce "Wednesday" as "Wensday".
That is not mis-pronounced.
From Encarta: quote: Wednes·day [ wénz dày, wénzdee ] (plural Wednes·days)
How would you pronounce "Wednesday"?
[Fixed code...pronounced "kōd"] [ 17. December 2004, 19:10: Message edited by: KenWritez ]
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jlg
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Years ago I worked with a fellow who mangled expressions with amazing regularity, so much so that the rest of us began to compile the examples. The one that has stuck most firmly in my mind is "He did it in one file swoop."
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Foolhearty
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Orientated, as in "The hikers used a compass to get orientated in the right direction."
Someone posted this above, but I have several students this term who are determined to make "supposably" a word.
And then there's one that's popular with the current POTUS: "Nu-cu-lar family."
But the thing that's driving me cuckoo professionally at the moment is the extent to which text-messaging language is now showing up in papers written for English comp.
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Ariel
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quote: Originally posted by Mamacita: When my mom wrote down the recipe later, she named the dish "Eggplant Pommijohn."
Ah yes. Just let me know if you'd like a recipe for my aunt's profita rolls.
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Pob
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Turned up at a church party once, years back, where the hostess proudly announced she'd be serving 'tay-coss'.
She'd found a recipe for tacos, but it didn't have a pronunciation guide.
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Ariel
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Well, she could hardly be proud of serving up tackos, could she. What would people think.
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Newman's Own
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The number of people who confuse 'stationery' with 'stationary' is mind-boggling.
A few years ago, I was at a religious bookstore, looking for a book entitled "The Satisfied Life," which had to do with mediaeval mysticism. Apparently the bookseller was unfamiliar with the contents - it had been placed on the shelf in the "Human Sexuality" section.
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Trudy Scrumptious
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A woman at church once told my father that her granddaughter had been given one of of those astromically correct dolls.
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melliethepooh
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quote: Originally posted by Jajehu: Someone posted this above, but I have several students this term who are determined to make "supposably" a word.
hm, "supposably" is in my dictionary.
And so many words in English are spelled so weird that you certainly can't always assume the pronunciation is what you see on the page.
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Foolhearty
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You're right. I should have said, a word meaning something like "allegedly" or "presumably."
Sorry -- it's finals week and I'm rushed.
And short of sleep.
And losing my grip.
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Mamacita
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More culinary notes. People seem to think that when beef is served au jus, the name of the sauce is "au jus." In fact there's a TV ad for some fast food chain featuring a beef sandwich "served with au jus." When my dear mother-in-law would pass the gravy boat and say, "Who wants some au jus?" I'd have to stifle a giggle. She was also good at ordering a sandwich served on a CROY-sant.
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Sir Kevin
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quote: Originally posted by Balaam: quote: Originally posted by babybear: I have recently noticed how many people mis-pronounce "Wednesday" as "Wensday".
That is not mis-pronounced.
From Encarta: quote: Wednes·day [ wénz dày, wénzdee ] (plural Wednes·days)
How would you pronounce "Wednesday"?
Voe-tawn's dog (Wodansdag) when I'm Speaking Swedish or attempting German...
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mousethief
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Kevin: Voe-tawn's dog (Wodansdag) when I'm Speaking Swedish or attempting German...
Actually in German it's just Mittwoch.
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melliethepooh
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hugs (or hot chocolate if he's the kind of person who hits people who hug him) for Jajehu
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babybear
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quote: Originally posted by Balaam: quote: Originally posted by babybear: I have recently noticed how many people mis-pronounce "Wednesday" as "Wensday".
That is not mis-pronounced.
Fair enough, but it is a modern pronunciation. The word is Wed-nes-day. February is Feb-ru-ary and battery is bat-er-i, although bat-ri and Feb-ry are used by a lot of people.
The word 'knife' used to have the 'k' sounded, as was the 'b' in 'comb'. Pronounciation (& spelling) rules change over time.
English people have a habit of disgarding vowels. It is especially noticable when there are two vowels together. They also are very good at pronouncing 's' as 'z'.
I knew a guy from North Wales who han't come across the 'z' sound until he started speaking English. It wsan't a part of his 'automatic' sounds. At one stage he was researching a zinc works. He would call it the 'sink' works, except if he was really concentrating hard. "I am going to the (long pause) zzzzinc works today."
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Sir Kevin
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quote: Originally posted by Mousethief: quote: Originally posted by Sir Kevin: Voe-tawn's dog (Wodansdag) when I'm Speaking Swedish or attempting German...
Actually in German it's just Mittwoch.
Ta, MT. I never studied German; Zeke sings in it though she is not fluent either. I was told at Cal that if you spoke German, Swedish was a mick (easy), so I took it for granted that there were some major similarities...
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