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Originally posted by DitzySpike:
My copy of the St Helena Breviary arrived. It's bulkier and heavier than Peekskill's Monastic Diurnal Revised. The Mid-day Office, Vespers and Compline are fully set to chant in plainsong notation. Quite a good selection of canticles, including some sourced from Hildergard von Bigen and St John of the Cross.

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A copy reaches Singapore before one reaches me? If the 2pm post doesn't include a bulky, heavy breviary, it's on, OSH sisters!

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Originally posted by Scott Knitter:
A copy reaches Singapore before one reaches me? If the 2pm post doesn't include a bulky, heavy breviary, it's on, OSH sisters!

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Well, it's on, I guess! No breviary, and I've e-mailed them to let them know I haven't received it. I wouldn't mind more of a preview, though, DitzySpike, while I'm waiting. You won't be spoiling it for me.

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Originally posted by DitzySpike:
Uses the two week Psalter arranged by the Order of the Holy Cross, with different Psalms distributed evenly over the four offices, including compline. Proper sunday antiphons drawn from the 1979 Prayer Book lectionary. Interesting arrangement of the office during the Triduum.

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Many thanks! Your reports are all I have so far, since the OSH sisters still haven't gotten my copy to me. They've cashed my check, however.

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Originally posted by DitzySpike:
I'm sure it doesn't take long for a parcel to arrive in Chicago from Georgia or New York.

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S Helena Breviary has a strange order for the office when you use one lection instead of two: Lesson - Canticle - Office Hymn - Gospel Canticle. Wonder about the rationale for that arrangement.

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How's the Psalm translation in the Lutheran book? Is it the same as the one proposed by 'Renewing Worship'? How is the book different from ELCA's 'Daily Prayer'?

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Pfatteicher's 'Daily Prayer of the Church' uses the 1979 ECUSA BCP psalter as given in the 1978 Lutheran Book of Worship. He took a long time on this office book, which may explain some of the surprisingly non-bleeding-edge aspects of it. I'm glad to see the LBW office get such a full treatment, with material from lots of sources: the BCP and Hymnal 1982 (a lot), Lutheran Worship, and I think a few things from the new Daily Prayer book of musings. It does make one wonder, though, what might happen to Pfatteicher's office when the LBW goes away. I'm not sure his book is getting widespread distribution or use at $45. But Galley's book has always been really expensive, too. Both Pfatteicher's and Galley's are offices for those who want to have the fullest working-out of their denominations' official offices. Lots of people in both denominations have never heard of these resources and never will, or will get a glassy look in their eyes when they do.

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Originally posted by Swick:
Yesterday I received my copy of "The Daily Prayer of the Church", by Pfatteicher. I haven't had time to use it yet, but have looked through it, and am very impressed; it's definitely user-friendly, and contains multiple office hymns, and antiphons for use with the canticles and psalms.

The book I regularly use is "The Prayer Book Office" by Howard Galley, which is sadly out of print. I'll probably continue to use this book, but supplement it with "The Daily Prayer of the Church," which seems to contain a gold mine of good texts.

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Originally posted by Bartolomeo:
What do other shipmates use for hymns and hymn tunes in the offices?

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Originally posted by Choirboy:
In the meantime, the chant for 'Creator of the Stars of Night' (which is in the Hymnal 82 among other places) seems to fit a lot of the texts I've encountered so far (I think the MDN lists it as a 'Winter Hymn' tune). I use that when it fits.

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Originally posted by Scott Knitter:
I've been praying with my new Saint Helena Breviary: Monastic Edition, and I'm impressed at how well the inclusive language is done: it doesn't strike me as distracting. The new canticles are impressive, as is the chant provided throughout. It takes the Order of the Holy Cross' A Monastic Breviary and enhances it richly. Quite heavy and not easily portable, but for home use it's great. I can use my old OHC one for traveling (and did this just last week).

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It appears www.breviary.net is down. Anyone else use or refer to this source? Does anyone know what's going on?

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Originally posted by Bartolomeo:
What do other shipmates use for hymns and hymn tunes in the offices?

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Originally posted by Anselmina:
For the Church of England: Canon 26 'of the manner of life of ministers'.

1. Every bishop, priest and deacon is under obligation, not being let by sickness etc, to say daily the Morning and Evening prayer, either privately or openly......

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Versicle: I heard a voice from heaven, saying unto me.
Response: Blessed are the dead which die to the Lord.

Benedictus
Antiphon: I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live; and whosoever liveth and believeth in me, shall never die.
Blessed be the Lord God of Israel: *
for he hath visited and redeemed his people;
And hath raised up a mighty salvation for us: *
in the house of his servant David;
As he spake by the mouth of his holy Prophets, *
which have been since the world began.
That we should be saved from our enemies, *
and from the hands of all that hate us.
To perform the mercy promised to our forefathers, *
and to remember his holy covenant.
To perform the oath which he sware to our forefather Abraham, *
that he would give us,
That we, being delivered out of the hands of our enemies, *
might serve him without fear,
In holiness and righteousness before him *
all the days of our life.
And, thou, child, shalt be call the Prophet of the Highest: *
for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways,
To give knowledge of salvation unto his people *
for the remission of their sins,
Through the tender mercy of our God *
whereby the Dayspring from on high hath visited us.
To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, *
and to guide our feet into the way of peace.
Rest eternal grant unto them, O Lord:
and let light perpetual shine upon them.
Antiphon: I am the resurrection and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live; and whosoever liveth and believeth in me, shall never die.

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, in earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive them that trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation. But deliver us from evil. Amen.

Psalm 130
Out of the deep have I called unto thee, O Lord:
Lord hear my voice.
O let thine ears consider well
the voice of my complaint.
If thou, Lord, wilt be extreme to mark what is done amiss:
O Lord, who may abide it?
For there is mercy with thee:
therefore shalt thou be feared.
I look for the Lord; my soul doth wait for him:
in his word is my trust.
My soul fleeth unto the Lord
before the morning watch, I say before the morning watch.
O Israel trust in the Lord, for with the Lord there is mercy:
and with him is plenteous redemption.
And he shall redeem Israel
from all his sins.
Rest eternal grant unto them, O Lord:
and let light perpetual shine upon them.

Incline thine ear, O Lord, unto the prayers wherewith we humbly entreat thy mercy: that the souls of thy servants, which thou hast bidden to depart this life, may by thee be set in the abode of peace and light, and made partakers of the eternal fellowship of thine elect. Through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

O God, the Creator and Redeemer of all thy faithful people; grant unto the souls of thy servants the remission of all their sins: that as they have ever desired thy merciful pardon, so by the supplications of their brothers and sisters may receive the same. Who livest and reignest, ever, one God, world without end. Amen.

Versicle: Rest eternal grant unto them, O Lord.
Response: And let light perpetual shine upon them.
Versicle: May they rest in peace.
Response: Amen.

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Originally posted by J.S. Bach:
On a totally different topic, what do you shipmates suggest for trying to keep up at least a short office during a time of grief? We lost our mother early yesterday, and I simply have not prayed the office at all, mostly for lack of time when there is so much to do. I miss it terribly.

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For the Church of England: Canon 26 'of the manner of life of ministers'.

1. Every bishop, priest and deacon is under obligation, not being let by sickness etc, to say daily the Morning and Evening prayer, either privately or openly......

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Originally posted by DitzySpike:
Thus, I'm getting acquaited with CWDP, using the Psalms arrangement from Mount Scholastica's 4 weeks schema.

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Thus, I'm getting acquaited with CWDP, using the Psalms arrangement from Mount Scholastica's 4 weeks schema.

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I've probably missed it somewhere on the site, but is their psalter numbered according to the Hebrew or the LXX?

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Hebrew. You can tell if you look at their midday psalms, where the long Ps. 119 is called 119, not 118.

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It appears www.breviary.net is down. Anyone else use or refer to this source?

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Originally posted by Scott Knitter:
I'm the new Monday officiant for Evening Prayer at Ascension, Chicago. Tonight was my second time doing this, and one other person came; she sat right in front of the officiant's prayer desk--my first thought was, "I should have doubled up on mouthwash."

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I'm the new Monday officiant for Evening Prayer at Ascension, Chicago. Tonight was my second time doing this, and one other person came; she sat right in front of the officiant's prayer desk--my first thought was, "I should have doubled up on mouthwash."

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must be a wonderful experience, with the space laden with memories. Did you catch your breath during the * ?

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Yes, I did, although not as big of a breath as usual. The lady who attended EP did no pause at all, and I didn't want to sound like I was correcting her.

I must admit I informalized EP a bit, giving the page numbers and helping her find the places, and telling her "you say the even-numbered verses" or "let's say the canticle together." I also didn't feel right just leaving at the end, so I introduced myself and said I hoped she could come back any time she was in Chicago (she was traveling on business).

One thing that made me decide to be friendly rather than formal was the Hebrews lesson that evening, which mentioned how by being hospitable, some have entertained angels unawares. Not that formal is inhospitable, but when there's one person attending, and she seems somewhat unfamiliar with the service, why not help her participate?

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Originally posted by Thurible:
When saying 'Prayer During the Day' (Terce, Sext, None, Midday Prayer, whatever) is the Gloria Patri said?

In the Divine Office, the ferial psalter gives you three antiphons, but in non-ferial seasons it gives you one. Is it Ant. Ps. GP Ant., repeat, or 'Ant. Ps. 1st Ant. 2nd Ant., etc.' or...?

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Originally posted by Ian Climacus:
When is the Benedictus said/sung in the daily cycle?

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