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1) P. Stravinskas, Lauds and Vespers (Latin-English, Per Annum). This was published in 2001 and reprinted in 2003. The corresponding volumes for saints and seasons have not been published and I suspect they won't be.

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Originally posted by ecumaniac:
Ah, Melbourne. Sigh.

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FSSP Melbourne writes:
Welcome also to Rev Mr Michael McCaffrey: Following his ordination to the Diaconate last November (in the US), Mr McCaffrey was assigned to the Canberra apostolate to assist Fr Webb. We are grateful to Mr McCaffrey for his assistance during Bishop Prowse’s visit. As previously advertised, Mr Mcaffrey will be ordained to the Priesthood on Saturday 24th June in the Adelaide Cathedral by Archbishop Wilson.

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Originally posted by Boadicea Trott:
I was pleased to discover that a Yahoo group has been set up to help people use it and to provide a weekly Ordo from the AWRV.

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There was an companion Benedictine Matins volume printed by the Sisters of the Holy Cross in Wales.

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There was an companion Benedictine Matins volume printed by the Sisters of the Holy Cross in Wales.

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Unofficially announced on said Yahoo group: it appears LA Press has hopes (not plans, not permission, but hopes) to reprint this volume. Does anyone know if there was a companion volume of chant in English for this?

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Doubtless it's all those new books that have come out....

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My spiritual Father has advised me to stick with a Benedictine Office, at least for the forseeable future, so that does limit me somewhat in which books to use

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I think I have caught the Breviary Bug (AKA Must have every Breviary available!)
I am even looking at BDW, which is quite remarkable considering I think that anyhing post-Cranmerian in language is dangerously modern.....

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I think I have caught the Breviary Bug (AKA Must have every Breviary available!)

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I don't know ANYTHING about that. Nope. Not at all.

Although I've been very good, I haven't bought a new one since January (but I wants to!)

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but those of you who feel settled in a Daily Office discipline, what do you use, and how did you settle on it? And how do you keep on track?

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The daily office books I have are the ECUSA 2 v. daily office book, and Benedictine Daily Prayer. Without doubt, I use the ECUSA book the most. I read the morning prayer service and the daily lectionary readings on my morning subway commute. Sometimes on the way home, I read the evening prayer service, and before bed, I read Compline. The ECUSA daily office book is easy to use and as I'm Episcopalian, I'm very much at home with it. Actually, the book is a godsend; I really love it--even though it does have typos, sad to say. Using it has kept me on track in terms having a daily prayer life and that had not happened before. I'm very happy about that.

But I like the Benedictine book, too. It is a quality production, for one thing; that pleases me. It is a lot more complicated than my ECUSA book; I think this is why I don't use it as much. However, I did figure out how it works, and felt a glow of accomplishment, but I sort of feel guilty because really, at *most* I read 3 offices a day, and BDP includes many offices I will probably never use. However, I'm off work tomorrow and Friday. Maybe I could try reading the offices then?

So Scott, to answer your question--it's the ECUSA daily office for me. For folks who actually use books like the Anglican Breviary or the Monastic Diurnal, all I can say is

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Originally posted by Lamburnite:
Now that we're already in the triduum, I was wondering if those of you who use some variation of the BCP daily office make the breviary changes during these three days.

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Am I forgetting something? And do many places actually do this?

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Apparently my parish (Ascension, Chicago) does this, as today's officiant described it to me before our Maundy Thursday Mass. My response was, "I'm glad I'm the Monday EP officiant, because if I were the Thursday one, I would have done it completely the BCP way, since these traditional changes aren't documented anywhere." We stick with the BCP on most Daily Office matters; apparently on this one we go traditional. But one just has to know that somehow. (Granted, an MC might annually tell the Thursday officiant how to do it...nobody told me because we don't make those changes on Monday of Holy Week.)

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Ah, Melbourne. Sigh.

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Since you live in Adelaide you may be interested to hear that we've currently got a FSSP priest-in-training for Adelaide here in Melbourne.

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Welcome also to Rev Mr Michael McCaffrey: Following his ordination to the Diaconate last November (in the US), Mr McCaffrey was assigned to the Canberra apostolate to assist Fr Webb. We are grateful to Mr McCaffrey for his assistance during Bishop Prowse’s visit. As previously advertised, Mr Mcaffrey will be ordained to the Priesthood on Saturday 24th June in the Adelaide Cathedral by Archbishop Wilson.

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Originally posted by DitzySpike:
Is anyone secretly pleased that the triduum offices are shorter? heh. So is the Easter Vespers.

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Not so pleased to do the whole of psalm 119 four days in a row. Otherwise, it is a bit of a relief.

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I didn't believe this until I attempted to pray the offices of the whole day on Good Friday from the Monastic Diurnal (the English-only one ed. Douglas). I think I'll stick to my contemporary offices (today, it's A Prayer Book Office ed. Galley).

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Originally posted by Scott Knitter:
Those of you who have settled into a consistent, dependable Daily Office discipline, how did you do it? What times do you pray, and how do you stick with those times? Do you have rituals or put on a habit or tallit or prayer shawl? Do you go to a specific place?

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Not so pleased to do the whole of psalm 119 four days in a row. Otherwise, it is a bit of a relief.

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I didn't believe this until I attempted to pray the offices of the whole day on Good Friday from the Monastic Diurnal (the English-only one ed. Douglas). I think I'll stick to my contemporary offices (today, it's A Prayer Book Office ed. Galley).

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Ack! It appears to be Sunday psalms right through the Octave of Easter!

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Originally posted by Swick:
In my bedroom I've converted a writing desk into a prayer table where I keep the books needed for the Office-Bible, Prayer Book, and a devotional. Also several icons, a candle, an incense burner, and crucifix. I like having a specific place set aside for prayer, but also pray on trains, buses, during walks, etc.

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Scott, that is a glorious item! I have a case of shtender-envy!

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[QUOTE]Thanks...I also enjoy finding out what others' prayer-spaces are like.

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I try to say Morning and/or Evening Prayer every day - one or the other and occasionally both. Whatever happens about MP and EP, I do make sure that I say Compline every day.

In the morning, I would have to get up quite early to pray at home and then get ready for work and be out of the house on time. When I have done this in the past, I have usually felt too sleepy and too much in a hurry to pray properly. So I usually say MP at work. I work in a large law firm and there is almost always an empty meeting room that is not being used by clients and so I just slip into one of those and say MP before starting work. It also has the benefit that I am much more awake by then. Needless to say, incense is not used in this workplace context! Quite apart from safety considerations, the odour of sanctity is not what clients expect to encounter in their lawyers' offices.

At home, for EP, the desk in my study doubles as a prayer table. I have a set-up almost identical to Swick's. The desk has a book-trough containing the 4 vol. LOTH in English, the 4 vol LOTH in Latin, the Weekday Missal and the Sunday Missal. This is all RC material, but I am just an AC who finds the RC stuff suits him very well. One the bookshelves facing my desk, I have a large-ish crucifix on one shelf and then an Orthodox icon of Christ the Great High Priest enthroned in glory on the shelf above. To the lright of that, I have another Orthodox icon of Mary Odigitria. There is a candle and incense burner. I used to have a burner that used charcoal but found this far too messy and hazardous. The business of setting the charcoal alight and keeping it alight was also apt to distract form the main purpose of prayer. So now I have one with a candle where you put the incense onto a piece of tin-foil on a metal mesh and it is heated by a small tea-light candle. This is far easier to set up and handle and much less fiddly and distracting.

I usually say Compline in a simpler setting by the bedside immediately before going to sleep.

I find that this arrangement suits me well and is quite sustainable. The only problem is that, if I haven't said MP at work and get home feeling extremely tired, it can be an effort to pull myself together for EP.

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Originally posted by J.S. Bach:
I've seen several of you mention the Saint Helena Breviary and know that Church Publishing is releasing the Personal Edition next month. I have a few questions about it (I imagine that the main difference from the Monastic Edition will be lack of musical notation).

1. Does this breviary include a lectionary? If so, is it the standard BCP daily office lectionary (which of course is also used, sometimes with variations, by the Lutherans, Presbyterians, etc.)?
2. What words does it use for the "Gloria Patri" ("Glory to the Father and to the Son . . . "). I know that it doesn't use Father, but does it maintain some kind of relationship between the persons of the Trinity? Formulations such as Creator, Redeemer, and Sustainer do not, and I would be distracted by such a rendering.

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More generally, does anyone know when and how these privileged octaves came into being?

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I'm not sure, but this year I noticed that most of my breviaries are rather unclear as to what is to be prayed during Easter Week. Even the new, wonderful Saint Helena Breviary divides up the Easter Week rubrics just a bit too much; one has to check three or four spots before one can proceed with confidence. Glad we're into Easter 2 now.