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Thread: Hell: My dignity does not allow me to stand this situation
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Zappa
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Originally posted by Huia:
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Originally posted by Zappa:
No - you're quite correct. I was being subtly ironic ( ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) though actually it's the title of an obscure New Zeland play about two gay guys who adopt a child).
I knew it sounded familiar, I saw that play at Downstage years ago - by Joe Musaphia (sp) and starring him and ?Ray Henward.
But, knowing less than nothing about chess I thought Pawn to Queen 2 was a winning move ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
Huia
Correct. I have the script somewhere but I've misplaced it during the cataloging process.
Dinna fret, Kelly or Huia, I know nothing about chess. I used to know a little about New Zealand drama! There's a line in it somewhere that explains the impossibility of the move.
[ 01. October 2006, 07:30: Message edited by: Zappa ]
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Barnabas62
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Originally posted by Flausa:
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Mr Kramnik "takes his most significant decisions in a toilet"
Let's see ... who does that remind me of on the Ship.
You ought to hear my wife on this subject .....
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Golden Key
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Originally posted by RooK:
I think you'll find that everything is my fault. The fact that very few of you can manage to notice that anything is my fault mostly just demonstrates how blithely oblivious to reality you are.
Of course it's your fault. You rule all things, except those which Erin rules.
(Increases Rook's hourly dose of dark chocolate, to make him more mellow.)
PS--If you want to play with chess and reality, read "The Eight", by Katherine Neville. Exquisitely crafted novel, but very haunting. Chess players will love it. I don't play, but I know just enough to be aware of some of the deeper layers of what was going on.
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Barnabas62
Shipmate
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Main drag
Now I'm a real chess geek! Two different things may be going on.
1. Kramnic may gain advantage by promoting worry that somehow he has a hidden edge (access to powerful computer in "loo"). So he behaves to persuade Topalev that he is indeed cheating, or worse, threatening to cheat!
2. Topalev may believe Kramnic's behaviour is innocent, but seeking to gain advantage for himself, he over-reacts, thereby distracting Kramnic & team. This works well if the truth is simply that Kramnic is nervous/has an enlarged prostate etc.
3. But now this sideshow game is engaged! And now each may gain advantage by playing up to the other's assumed playing up! Wheels within wheels. (You dont have to be paranoid, but it helps ...)
This seems to be meat and drink to these events - there was a lot of it in Fischer-Spassky - but not just in the modern era. Here is a famous story about grandmaster Nimzowitsch. quote:
During a tournament one day, Latvian chess master Aron Nimzowitsch complained that his opponent had laid an unlit cigar on the table beside the board. The director pointed out that the man was not in fact smoking. “Yes,” replied Nimzowitsch, “but he is threatening to smoke, and any fool knows that the threat is more powerful than the execution!”.
(I think he was playing the brilliant Lasker, who played the man probably better than any other chessplayer in history).
And there should be a "geek" smilie ... How about g ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) ?
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Tortuf
Ship's fisherman
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Oh no, Kramnic is not pretending. He has a powerful computer hidden in his potty.
I have now uncovered secret papers where RooK and Kramnic were seen together on the beach at Yalta shortly before Kramnic began playing this tournament. My intelligence agents tell me that they were seen carrying a large toilet out of the Hotel Oreanda at 20:54 hours GMT on Friday, September 22, 2006. An enlarged photo of the toilet in question clearly shows that the flush lever is not only connected to the ball cock, it is connected to a tiny, but perceptible, blue tooth transceiver.
After hours of analysis of satellite interceptions of blue tooth transmissions in the Kalmykia region over the past week I can say, with great confidence, that Kramnic is flushing out morse code messages to RooK. Kramnic's Morse Code is pretty bad, and his English is worse. RooK, however, seems to have done well at his Russian language course at the CSIS.
Most of the transmissions are pretty basic, probably because of Kramnic's limited grasp of code. RooK gives Kramnic instruction on brilliant, daring, moves that are above Kramnic's usual pedestrian grasp of the game. Occasionally, though, RooK has threatened Kramnic with impalement via a rusty farm implement. These threats appear to be connected to times when Kramnic is not following direction well enough, or when he mucks up his code.
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Erroneous Monk
Shipmate
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
Here is a famous story about grandmaster Nimzowitsch:
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During a tournament one day, Latvian chess master Aron Nimzowitsch complained that his opponent had laid an unlit cigar on the table beside the board. The director pointed out that the man was not in fact smoking. “Yes,” replied Nimzowitsch, “but he is threatening to smoke, and any fool knows that the threat is more powerful than the execution!”.
Yep. Never under-estimate the power of the threat. This is why in a five-minute game, announcing "Plan" before executing a three-move cheapo is good psychology as well as courtesy.
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RooK
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First of all, regarding my ultimate fault for, well, everything - that's just me being consistent. Unlike the rest of you simpering neurotics. I read your posts, and I see how it's all about you, for pretty much all of you. Except for when anything goes wrong. See that just makes you moral cowards. At least when I insist that it's all about me I actually follow through and accept the logical conclusion: it's all my fault.
Now shut the hell up, and test your individual flammabilities with blow torches.
Tortuf, you damned board-hagfish, why don't you just come clean with your machinations? Do you think people don't see how you are connecting Kramnik with Luther, and that like Luther Kramnik is communing directly with god while straining on the toilet? And, by crude proxy, suggesting that the entirety of christianity is really nothing more than some allegory for a chess game? You twisted bastard.
Perhaps you thought that I'd just sit idly by while you did this, because you know I don't give a damn about god. But it's not what you're saying that goads me, it's how you're villainously going about it. It's just wrong. And it pisses me off even more because I know that you know it's wrong. And you just sit there, waxing your mustache, while contemplating which orphanage to foreclose on next.
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Flausa
Mad Woman
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Tortuf has a moustache?
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comet
Snowball in Hell
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Originally posted by RooK:
But, of course he does.
what a dream avatar!
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"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.” -Calvin
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Loquacious beachcomber
Shipmate
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What a dream avatar for a lawyer!
Any lawyer!
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Patdys
Iron Wannabe
RooK-Annoyer
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Originally posted by RooK:
First of all, regarding my ultimate fault for, well, everything - that's just me being consistent. Unlike the rest of you simpering neurotics. I read your posts, and I see how it's all about you, for pretty much all of you. Except for when anything goes wrong. See that just makes you moral cowards. At least when I insist that it's all about me I actually follow through and accept the logical conclusion: it's all my fault.
But given that you have admitted everything is your fault, then the rest of us are blameless when things go wrong. It's logically consistant.
By the way, it's a bitch hammering the third nail in by yourself.
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Alfred E. Neuman
What? Me worry?
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Originally posted by Pure as the Driven Yellow Snow:
By the way, it's a bitch hammering the third nail in by yourself.
Exactly. Which makes it difficult to sacrifice yourself without the help of others. Would an individual pounding himself to a crucifix, far removed from a public arena, have the same effect?
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Janine
The Endless Simmer
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If a Savior crucifies Himself alone in a forest, does anyone actually hear the Substitutionary Atonement?
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Bean Sidhe
Shipmate
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Not till they check their credit card balance.
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RooK
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Whoa there, Denizens. Just because I admit that it's my fault in no way means that I'm meaning to subject myself to any sort of punitive measures. Atonement be damned, substitutionary or otherwise. (Pardon the irony.)
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jlg
What is this place?
Why am I here?
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Originally posted by RooK:
Tortuf, you damned board-hagfish, why don't you just come clean with your machinations? Do you think people don't see how you are connecting Kramnik with Luther, [....]
RooK, surely you aren't accusing Tortuf of being a Lutheran (closeted or otherwise)? I suspect that in Nashville, being a Lutheran could get a lawyer in a whole heap o' trouble, if you know what I mean.
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Tortuf
Ship's fisherman
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I'll have you know that I once evicted "We are the Magic of Toys" from their premises on December 23. Of course I have a waxed mustache that I twirl. That is standard equipment for a lawyer.
RooK, I am pleased and proud for you that you are accepting responsibility for everything that goes wrong. Because, as we all know, it is your fault.
I have not planned to insinuate the notion that the game of Christianity is nothing more than an allegory for chess. Au contraire, mon ami.
Gemeinschaft is but a faint analogy for Christianity and Gesellschaft is an apt analogy for playing chess.
Had you not been distracted by the bright, shiny, object passing by you when you took your philosophy class (Yes, I do know your grades in that class. Tch. Tch.) you would not have been trapped by the Cum Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc fallacy.
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Tortuf
Ship's fisherman
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The only Luther I know is Luther Vandross.
I have no knowledge of any German priests.
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Patdys
Iron Wannabe
RooK-Annoyer
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Ahh, sophistry. Can you deny knowing Lex Luthor, the nemesis of all that is good?
And I quote,
'In these early stories, Luthor comes across as a chess master -- sacrificing some pawns and losing some moves, but confident of his overall strategy.'
'Earlier, I described Luthor as a chess master. Make that a Seriously Twisted Chess Master (tm).'
I put it to you that you are suggesting RooK, with or without stigmata, is actually Lex Luthor.
Actually, reading his religious affiliation and goals here, I'm inclined to agree.
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Moo
Ship's tough old bird
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Originally posted by Tortuf
..you would not have been trapped by the Cum Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc fallacy.
I always heard that as post hoc, propter hoc.
Moo
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Moo
Ship's tough old bird
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Originally posted by Tortuf:
What I want to know is where the snarling watchdog of nihilist agnosticism has gone.
RooK, are you hiding there in the back corner, letting your pawns take the heat for you?
Isn't that what pawns are for?
Moo
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Tortuf
Ship's fisherman
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No. They are tasty little snacks steamed in beer and eaten with horseradish laden cocktail sauce.
Or is that prawns?
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RooK
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Heat? What heat? Of course your disgusting machinations can't be proven - weaselling around with the unprovable is how you've avoided being banned, how you trained to be a lawyer, and how you qualified as a board admin.
However, something not being provable and it not being true are hardly equivalent, otherwise this whole board would vanish in a wisp of stale trolling irony.
So answer us this: When did you stop torturing kittens? Was it before you were beating your wife, or during? Perhaps you should visit the toilet before responding - to give you time to flush the evidence.
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Tortuf
Ship's fisherman
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I have no need to flush the evidence. Those e mails and chat sessions admitting to torturing kitten and beating my wife were written by someone who must have snuck onto my computer. Yes, that's it. There was someone who snuck onto my computer and made up those vile allegations while sending out messages under my name.
Now, let me be while I plan out how I'm going to evict that widow this morning in court.
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Janine
The Endless Simmer
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Y'all don't hyperventilate. So long as he never flirted smuttily with same-sex teen pages via the 'Net, he's home free.
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RooK
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Originally posted by Janine:
Y'all don't hyperventilate. So long as he never flirted smuttily with same-sex teen pages via the 'Net, he's home free.
Way to ruin a perfectly innocent e-dual by interjecting your typically-retarded political regurgitations, Janine. Clearly, you mean that "so long as he never flirted smuttily with teen pages via the 'Net for years, with the knowledge of his party and peers, he won't feel compelled by irony to forfeit his job of protecting teens from online sexual predators once the public finds out". I can hardly wait to see what you and your ilk are instructed to regurgitate next.
Maybe, just maybe, you could do it on a more appropriate thread though, you contemptible sow.
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duchess
Ship's Blue Blooded Lady
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Posted
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Originally posted by RooK:
Whoa there, Denizens. Just because I admit that it's my fault in no way means that I'm meaning to subject myself to any sort of punitive measures. Atonement be damned, substitutionary or otherwise. (Pardon the irony.)
At least he's thought about it. *rubs hands*
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mousethief
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is an e-dual twice as good as an e-mono?
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RooK
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You can tell I love letting pedants make themselves look like dickheads by the way I intentionally include minor errors as bait in everything I post. Once again: all my fault.
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Sine Nomine
Ship's backstabbing bastard
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Tortuf, may I take this opportunity to say that the sign board outside your church this week is incredibly stupid? "Aspire to Inspire before you Expire."
I mean really. ![[Projectile]](graemlins/puke2.gif)
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sharkshooter
Not your average shark
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1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qb6!?
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Loquacious beachcomber
Shipmate
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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
Tortuf, may I take this opportunity to say that the sign board outside your church this week is incredibly stupid? "Aspire to Inspire before you Expire."
I mean really.
Being a lawyer, no doubt he purloined that briiliant saying from another church.
Maybe one in Canada.
Or maybe one where Sine lives.
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Loquacious beachcomber
Shipmate
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Originally posted by RooK:
You can tell I love letting pedants make themselves look like dickheads by the way I intentionally include minor errors as bait in everything I post. Once again: all my fault.
Ummm - RooK?
Isn't intentionally including minor errors as bait in everything they post the normal daily behaviour of certain mythical creatures who live under bridges and have unsavory relationships with goats?
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Sine Nomine
Ship's backstabbing bastard
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Originally posted by Crackers & Goat Cheese:
Or maybe one where Sine lives.
I think not. Episcopalians don't do inspirational messages on their signs. We don't even really like to tell people what times the services are. Strangers might show up and sit in your pew or something.
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