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Thread: Hell: I should like to point out that this is not "my busy time of year."
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Max.
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"That's blasphemous!"
My response normally is "Oh fuck off, you really don't know the meaning of the word"
Usual response to that is "You swore! I thought Christains weren't allowed to swear"
Max
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Sarkycow
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Err, thanks Max for the strange addition to the thread. Try not to drink and post in future.
And KenW, go for it - I'd suddenly have a whole lot of free time over Christmas
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Loquacious beachcomber
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quote: Originally posted by Sarkycow: Err, thanks Max for the strange addition to the thread. Try not to drink and post in future.
Err... Sarky? "Try not to drink and post in future" sounds like it could be a really fun thread leading up to the New Year's festivities. People could try to predict drunken, moronic responses one could place on a hypothetical hell thread during 2007.
Totally pointless, wasted, drunken comments to be placed on a thread whining that the weather appears to be somewhat cold in January. Insulting, sarcastic comments someone could add to a Valentine's day rant begun by a poster who obviously isn't getting any, in 2007. Comments a drunk might make on a thread suggesting Shipmates watch their language.
Drunken comments which might be posted in hell during 2007 may not be appreciated by the hosts all that much, however; so is this a thread you would sooner not see attempted? [ 07. December 2006, 13:29: Message edited by: Mostly Noble Pixels ]
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Imaginary Friend
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Back to the OP...
A conversation that I have frequently:
Other: "So, what do you do?"
Me: "I'm studying for a PhD in physics"
Other: "Oh"
[pause]
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[more pause]
Other: "Well, that's iiiiiinteresting."
I mean, for goodness sake, if you don't have anything to say then just say that! I don't expect my chosen profession to be interesting, so don't try and pretend that it is!
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Lyda*Rose
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quote: Originally posted by davelarge: Back to the OP...
A conversation that I have frequently:
Other: "So, what do you do?"
Me: "I'm studying for a PhD in physics"
Other: "Oh"
[pause]
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[more pause]
Other: "Well, that's iiiiiinteresting."
I mean, for goodness sake, if you don't have anything to say then just say that! I don't expect my chosen profession to be interesting, so don't try and pretend that it is!
Hell, one could get five minutes of conversation (at least) just by asking you what kind of physics that involves and could you explain it in laymen's terms? Who knows, one could learn something. But, noooo....
Sounds like the kind of idiot whose idea of a conversation is weather and box scores.
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Golden Key
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quote: Originally posted by davelarge: Other: "Well, that's iiiiiinteresting."
I mean, for goodness sake, if you don't have anything to say then just say that! I don't expect my chosen profession to be interesting, so don't try and pretend that it is!
They're probably just intimidated. Most people know little about physics.
On the other hand, you might refer them to the original "Twilight Zone" episode "Little Girl Lost", where a family is very thankful to know a physicist that they can call in the middle of the night!
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Arrietty
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Well it's a busy time of year for me! Since Dec 1st I have had to or will have to:
- try and work enough supply hours to pay for presents, extra food etc
- buy and wrap said presents, send what needs sending
- prepare and serve said food
- write and send cards
- do the three months backlog of housework that's built up before my sons and whatever guests they invite are around
- write two sermons
- Lead or assist at four or five services per week and attend several more
- find time to make an appearance at numerous carol services and Christmas celebrations for various local schools and church groups
- fit in three meetings on different evenings that can't wait till after Christmas
- visit relatives and write and deliver services for two funerals in the next ten days (plus burials of ashes which are separate services) and support the bereaved
- attend a farewell lunch
- a whole load of other stuff I've done or will be doing for or with people that don't come to church much but do show up at Christmas.
Quite honestly, if someone says anything to me that implies they've thought about me as a human being rather than 'the curate' even for half a second I'm touched rather than annoyed, even if they don't understand the minutiae of my role. I probably don'tunderstand the ins and outs of their job either.
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Imaginary Friend
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Arrietty: It sounds like you need to change denomination
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Arrietty
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This isn't very Hellish but it is still such a privilege to be able to do all this stuff (having taken the pretty route to ordination) that I wouldn't dream of it.
Looking at that list, getting my husband/children to be a bit more proactive could be good though!
ETA - plus I don't have the beard for being an Orthodox priest! [ 08. December 2006, 11:41: Message edited by: Arrietty ]
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Pax Romana
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I have some lovely, well meaning older-than-fifty friends who, along with other things, send me all those old age jokes via e-mail.
I'm glad I have lived as long as I have, I look forward to living longer and getting older, and in the meantime I am not going to give in to all the traditional old age baggage.
So there!
Pax Romana
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Traveller
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It irritates the sh*t out of me at this time of year when people say "It's Christmas!".
No, it's not, you litugically ignorant fool, it's Advent now; Christmas starts on December 25th. If you must have Christmas trees and decorations and stuff, they go up on December 24th and down on twelfth night. When shops start taking down the decorations before they close on Christmas Eve, I just know they have been using it all to con us into spending lots of money on crappy things we don't need and don't really want.
I think I'll go and lie down now.
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Imaginary Friend
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That's damn right! Christmas parties in November! It's not even Advent then!
The real fustration is that when it actually gets to Christmas, we've all been doing Christmas for so long that we're bored of it and it turns out to be a complete anti-climax.
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leo
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Well it has certainly been busy in this benefice today: 3 eucharists - said, sung and said with hymns. 2 performances of the Wakefield Cycle of the Nativity play by the local theatre school, an Advent carol service and there is a late evening alt.worship service.
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KenWritez
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Unless, of course, your church doesn't do liturgy, or you've never experienced it, in which case it *is* Christmas time, the time roughly a few weeks prior to Christmas Day and perhaps a few days afterward, depending on your culture.
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Emma Louise
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Yup - definately the Christmas season for me from the 1st of december until new year. I know Christmas *day* isnt til the 25th, but Id expect work/school/uni/ every other group to have a "christmas party" or "christmas dinner" before then. To get upset as the world/a lot of christians dont follow your liturgical practice is rather foolish IMHO
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Seeker963
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Why does it have to be a flipping contest between who is busier, the laity or the clergy? THERE's a pet peeve.
In the last five years, I've moved from 1) full-time employed, to 2) employed and training to 3) full-time clergy.
I don't flippin' work less than I did before - why on earth would I?
How about all sides of this conversation - clergy and laity - get over themselves, stop their whining and accept that fact that most sincere Christians probably all do quite a lot to help others?
No, I don't lounge around in my PJs and neither do I think that you do. Now let's all get a life.
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Sarkycow
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quote: Originally posted by Seeker963: Why does it have to be a flipping contest between who is busier, the laity or the clergy?
It's not. If anything it's a flipping contest between Fregory and the rest of the world/rest of the Ship/Anglican church/Church of England/some other large group He said that he wasn't busy, and then a load of us replied "Bully for you, we are. Lots of people are, so don't moan when other people recognise that lots of people are busy this time of year and don't moan when they ask if you're also busy."
My post about becoming a vicar to get an easier Christmas was tongue-in-cheek. I'll include subtitles for the terminally earnest next time shall I?
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mousethief
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Fregoratius Contra Mundum?
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Sarkycow
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And also with you?
Sorry, wrong response
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Seeker963
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quote: Originally posted by Sarkycow: If anything it's a flipping contest between Fregory and the rest of the world/rest of the Ship/Anglican church/Church of England/some other large group
I'll include subtitles for the terminally earnest next time shall I?
As much as I hate to take sides with one of the Ship's more - ahem - self-assured posters, saying "It's not my busy time of year" is quite different from saying "I'm not busy".
Other than the fact that I'm a new minister and trying to cope with preparing 4 times 2 Christmas services (something that I assume will get easier as I get more experience), it's not "the" busy time of year in my denomination. If you look at my diary for October - when all our business meetings are supposed to happen - I had 4 or 5 appointments every day of the week. AND people didn't think I was "supposed" to be busy, so I got some remarks from various peple about why I shouldn't be saying "no" to things.
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Father Gregory
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Oh I'm busy alright ... just not more busy or less busy than at other times of the year. As has so often been said here it's the pig ignorant notion that teachers and clergy are part timers / time wasters that gets up my nose. I know they could be mean that I am "extra-extra-beyond-the-ordinary" busy at this time, but somehow I don't think so.
By the way if you are going to sport yourself in this over-heated infernal enclosure by mangling my name at least do it in Greek. Thank you.
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Sarkycow
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quote: Originally posted by Father Gregory: By the way if you are going to sport yourself in this over-heated infernal enclosure by mangling my name at least do it in Greek.
Yes, let's be polite enough to mangle Fregger's name in the language of his choosing.
Or not.
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Angloid
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Another thread is suggesting itself. I notice even Fr Gregory is claiming to be 'busy' - whether with pride or not I can't say. What the hell is the use of 'busy' clergy?? I can't count the number of times people have apologised for troubling me, or excusing themselves for not discussing some important spiritual or personal matter, because 'I know you're so busy'. And we like to project that image too. Paying homage to the protestant work ethic instead of to the gospel.
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Father Gregory
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... or if you like, I'm always bone idle. It matters not to me ... so long as no special significance is attached to Christmas.
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GreyFace
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quote: Originally posted by Father Gregory: It matters not to me ... so long as no special significance is attached to Christmas.
Aye, after all, it's only when we celebrate the Incarnation. So, not all that big a deal eh, Father Φρεγωριως ?
(How's my Greek mangling?)
[For non-Greek readers, it's a letter-by-letter translation of Fregorios.] [ 12. December 2006, 09:43: Message edited by: Sarkycow ]
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