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AdamPater
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Tall and fat, they're the worst. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
Except for tall fat people with kids having tantrums. And who don't know grammar as well as I do. Or who know it better.
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Left at the Altar
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Yeah. Fatties and Lankies should be forced to pay double.
Fat Lankies - triple.
Fat Lankies with obnoxious kids or newspapers - banned.
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Broadsheet reading fat lankies with body odour and lap sitting infant who have a window seat and constantly need to get up to go to the toilet.
Ever had one? NOTHING worse!
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Left at the Altar
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Except (possibly) barfing fat ladies.
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the coiled spring
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A couple of years ago was on 10hr flight and there was a 3 year old who kept getting up hitting other passengers. The stewardess was very good.
She told the parents to take themselves and child to place at back of plane and keep the child under control and away from other passengers.
This happened and peace descend for next 9 hours.
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Melon
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Originally posted by jerusalemcross:
My brother said (when his were toddler terrors) he knew from the attitude of other travellers that he was a pariah when he and wife boarded a plane with TWO toddlers....and they were pretty good at keeping them under control.
One of the problems I have with my kids as soon as we leave France is their unreasonable expectations that, for example, adults should respond when they say "hello". It's much easier to tell children that their behaviour is upsetting the man in the seat behind if the man in the seat behind hasn't made clear from the outset that he hates children.
(In my earlier account of "Around Europe with a toddler", I skimmed the bit where said toddler chased after the Little Chef cook demanding a kiss goodbye.)
[ 02. February 2007, 11:43: Message edited by: Melon ]
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luvanddaisies
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Originally posted by Melon:
(In my earlier account of "Around Europe with a toddler", I skimmed the bit where said toddler chased after the Little Chef cook demanding a kiss goodbye.)
![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif) What a marvellous mental image that conjures. It's not on YouTube, is it?
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Originally posted by Melon:
One of the problems I have with my kids as soon as we leave France is their unreasonable expectations that, for example, adults should respond when they say "hello". It's much easier to tell children that their behaviour is upsetting the man in the seat behind if the man in the seat behind hasn't made clear from the outset that he hates children.
But I'm also not happy about being accused of hating children if I decline to amuse and entertain your child for the entire flight while you flip through a magazine or tune them out with headphones.
**Note** I'm not talking about you specifically here, Melon, since I'm sure you're intelligent and caring enuogh not to do that, but I've been in situations where so much as smiling fondly when a child says hello is apparently an implied offer to babysit for eight hours.
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Originally posted by Left at the Altar:
Yep, parenting and obesity. Recipe for thread success.
(apologies to the family for any false accusation on my part that they appeared on Jerry Springer's dreadful show).
ETA: I don't care what people weigh. I just don't like their flobbily bits oozing onto my seat and pressing against my leg and my arm and .... errrrr.
When I was a bit heavier, my fat ooozzeed out and made the arm rest pop up. This guy I was sitting next to got very angry. He demanded a new seat. The flight attendent told him no. So he kept pressing the arm rest down and my fat kept making it pop up, not to mention that my hip fat oozzed out and touched him. I used to develop a back ache trying sit in a way as to control fat ooozzing out but it was no use.
After some weight loss, the little arm rest STILL freakin' pops up! My fat nowhere touches the next party....but that dang thing always wants to pop up. I get to watch the person next to me press it down...and then see the thing pop up.
Airplane seats really should be just a couple inches wider. They are smaller than restaurant seats I have sat in everywhere in the world I have been in...there is nothing as small as them.
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Look, the real problem is that airplanes have turned into Flying Greyhound Buses of Sheer Hell. If all the seats were bigger, and there was a little more space, and a little better service (for which I'd be willing to pay an extra 50-100/ticket, for sure), then a lot of the stuff that seems intolerable would be able to be brushed off better, like upset kids or fat seatmates. The fact that we're all basically in a torture chamber for eight hours to get to Europe really makes everyone less charitable.
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That's unfair on the buses, which are much more comfortable.
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Originally posted by Iole Nui:
And don't get me started on people who read broadsheet newspapers that take at least 3 seats worth of room to manipulate adequately.
It says something, probably terrifying, that in the suburb I grew up in we were taught in elementary school how to fold a newspaper so as to be able to read it, including turning the pages, without getting in your neighbour's space. Proper preparation for a generation of dutiful train commuters.
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Left at the Altar
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Originally posted by Laura:
Look, the real problem is that airplanes have turned into Flying Greyhound Buses of Sheer Hell. If all the seats were bigger, and there was a little more space, and a little better service (for which I'd be willing to pay an extra 50-100/ticket, for sure), then a lot of the stuff that seems intolerable would be able to be brushed off better, like upset kids or fat seatmates. The fact that we're all basically in a torture chamber for eight hours to get to Europe really makes everyone less charitable.
Hear hear. The seats are ridiculously narrow and the amount of leg room too little. The difference between an Air France economy seat and a Qantas economy seat is two centimetres (I think Air France provides all of 36sm and Qantas 34cm), but the difference over 12 hours is significant. Now that's ridiculous.
Mr A and I were talking about this last week. I said that I'd be happy for airlines to charge a bit more and provide decent seating. I stick by that.
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Originally posted by Autenrieth Road:
That's unfair on the buses, which are much more comfortable.
I was gonna say the same thing. My last Greyhound ride was an ordeal, and it was still better than flying. You don't have to go through all that ridiculous security crap and you can carry your house keys with you. You can keep an eye on your luggage, increasing the chances of it arriving at the same place you do and decreasing the chances of theft. You can get on and get off even in the middle of nowhere. If your plans change, you can use the ticket later (within a year for Greyhound Canada) with no hassles. I've never made a reservation, and if the bus happens to be full, they really do their best to get you on another one and get you to where you're going somehow. OliviaG
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luvanddaisies
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Originally posted by Autenrieth Road:
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Originally posted by Iole Nui:
And don't get me started on people who read broadsheet newspapers that take at least 3 seats worth of room to manipulate adequately.
It says something, probably terrifying, that in the suburb I grew up in we were taught in elementary school how to fold a newspaper so as to be able to read it, including turning the pages, without getting in your neighbour's space. Proper preparation for a generation of dutiful train commuters.
The mind boggles as to where you went to school, AR!
My flatmate says the headmistress in her school taught them how to do the Times crossword. Maybe your headteacher was related...
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Gwai
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Originally posted by Autenrieth Road:
That's unfair on the buses, which are much more comfortable.
See I far prefer flying. At least planes arrive and depart when they say they will! Greyhounds are always late and there's no assigned seating, so you have to be always on your guard to get up and run to the line when it forms. One time I didn't and didn't get a seat! There wasn't another non-express for 12 hours! Fortunately I was a young worried looking female, so the man I talked to asked the next express driver to make a special stop! Every ride I've taken since then I've had to worry about such things. Now that's stress. Taking my shoes off is nothing compared to it.
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Soror Magna
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Originally posted by Gwai:
At least planes arrive and depart when they say they will!
Remind me what started this thread? Something about a flight being delayed? OliviaG
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Gracious rebel
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Originally posted by OliviaG:
You don't have to go through all that ridiculous security crap and you can carry your house keys with you
What's all this about house keys? Never knew they were banned items on flights - mine are always in my carry on bag.
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Soror Magna
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Originally posted by Gracious rebel:
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Originally posted by OliviaG:
You don't have to go through all that ridiculous security crap and you can carry your house keys with you
What's all this about house keys? Never knew they were banned items on flights - mine are always in my carry on bag.
IIRC, that temporary insanity was finally stopped after a few people had luggage (labelled with their home address) with their house keys inside stolen. The whole security thing is insane. I've decided I won't participate in security theatre without an Equity contract. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) OliviaG
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Everybody who has ever been on an airplane knows that, given enough GIN, they would scream as loudly and as longly as any infant/toddler on a flight. Putting that many unpleasant strangers together is a recipe for anarchy.
Moreover, there is an evolutionary imperative at work here: if we strangle screaming children on an airplane now, in a generation, there may be fewer people flying in airplanes, and the airlines will make the seats wider.
Failing that, just keep strangling children on airplanes. We may not live long enough to enjoy the fruits of our labors, but at least we can pay attention to the in-flight movie.
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Wet Kipper
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Originally posted by Left at the Altar:
I said that I'd be happy for airlines to charge a bit more and provide decent seating.
Otherwise known as "premium economy", business class, first class etc, depending on the size of your "bit extra"
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Originally posted by Gwai:
Have I shared my eternal annoyance that when people see a small woman they think that she thusly doesn't need (read deserve) all of her seat, so they start sticking knees, newspapers, elbows or thighs onto her seat.
To which the perfect comeback is (although hard to carry off on an airplane): "Oh, am I in your way? Do you need more room? How stupid of me not to realize. Here, let me stand so you'll be more comfortable."
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Originally posted by Gwai:
At least planes arrive and depart when they say they will!
What airline do you fly, my dear? Have they never heard of ground stops?
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Left at the Altar
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Originally posted by Wet Kipper:
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Originally posted by Left at the Altar:
I said that I'd be happy for airlines to charge a bit more and provide decent seating.
Otherwise known as "premium economy", business class, first class etc, depending on the size of your "bit extra"
My bit extra is probably premium cattle class. However, the fat bloke next to me thinks different.
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KenWritez
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The fat bloke next to you could have been me. Not only am I a wide load, I'm also tall. When I get situated into a typical "economy" flavor seat (the only kind besides first class I've seen on domestic carriers I've flown), I have to either wedge my knees against the back of his chair (no room to recline for him) or straighten them and slide my legs under his seat. Should he recline, my legs are trapped, as am I--no getting up for me!
I do my damndest not to intrude on my seatmate, contorting myself to fit wherever I can, but physically, that's an impossibility. I've only had one person complain about being sat next to me, and he was only a bit smaller than I was! Luckily, it wasn't a full flight and the stewardess re-sat me in an empty row.
I hate flying because the chairs are small and too close to their mates in front and back. Recently, a US tv news program highlighted the frustrations of flyers, and inadequate seat and leg room were high on the list of gripes.
American Airlines touted a new legroom expansion plan several years ago; rows of seats were removed to allow more legroom. That program was scrapped. (AIUI, because of insufficient sales.) The missing seats were added back in.
Southwest Airline's seat width, as reported in USA Today, is 17.25 inches.
When I tried to purchase an extra seat for myself on a recent LA -> Miami flight I took on American Airlines, my seat cost was $400, the extra seat would have cost me $1047, since we were going to purchase the extra seat some days after we'd already bought our own. I talked to the AA customer service rep: Could they please cut me a deal on this seat? No, not even with a cat in a hat. Screw you, Jack. The rep said I could ask the gate agent at the time of flight for a bulkhead seat if any were available. Well, guess what flight AA oversold? And no, on AA you cannot raise the arms on bulkhead seats because of their swing-out tray tables.
The one time I did purchase an extra seat for myself on Southwest, the airline personnel had no idea how to handle it! We received conflicting check-in advice, the extra ticket in my name caused major security problems, the gate agents seemed never to've heard of this bizarre "purchase am extra seat for oneself" concept. As it was, they almost sold my extra seat as a "no-show,", thus contradicting the reason I bought the damn thing!
Devoting more space to leg room and seat width decreases the amount of saleable seats on a plane. What airline would willingly decrease its per-flight profits in order to provide more comfort to its passengers?
(I'm not even going to talk about airplane toilets and large people. No liquids or food the night before the flight is a good idea for big people.)
The airlines refuse to change because to do so would result in less profits, is my guess. Not something you want to justify to a shareholder board of inquiry.
Airlines won't change until the cost of not doing so is greater than the cost of doing so. When that point is reached is anyone's guess, but if Americans really are becoming larger, then at some point airlines will see profits fall as fatter passengers use alternative transport.
My answer is, I choose not to fly anymore until I've lost enough weight I can fly comfortably. The seats are much more roomy on Amtrak.
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Left at the Altar
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KW, I agree wholeheartedly that airline seats are way too narrow and too close to the seat in front for any person to enjoy a flight. They should all be wider and further apart. I'd like to sit beside you, really I would. I'd like airlines to say, "Well, heck, a significant proportion of our population is large either vertically or horizintally or both, so we need to either make all out seats bigger, or have a portion of the seats bigger so that bigger people can fly with us, without being squashed in, and without squashing their neighbours". But they don't.
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the coiled spring
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In the good old days the American airlines used to have a reputation for good seating, sad to see that lost.
What is the situation with cramp seats etc and risk of Deep Vein Thrombois in US
Am lucky that when I fly via Airbus there is good leg room and space for an old fart and it is easy to go for a walk up theailes without causing problems for others.Often flight is not full and one is able to spread out and have a kip.
It used to be only the chartered flights which were cattle trucks.
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calisnenath
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Well I need seats lower down, or with foot rests. I'm only 5 feet tall (1m53) and dangling legs for a 16hour flight to Japan with a baby (well behaved I hasten to add!) was NASTY!
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Anybody else remember the jingle, "You get three feet for your two legs on Western Airlines"?
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Originally posted by Left at the Altar:
I'd like airlines to say, "Well, heck, a significant proportion of our population is large either vertically or horizintally or both, so we need to either make all out seats bigger, or have a portion of the seats bigger so that bigger people can fly with us, without being squashed in, and without squashing their neighbours". But they don't.
I thought they did -- the portion of seats that are larger are called First Class, and they cost more, but most airlines have them. Don't they?
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I heard somewhere of someone who genuinely could not fit into his Cockroach Class seat. He was simply too big. The airline upgraded him to Business Class.
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Amorya
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Originally posted by Cod:
I heard somewhere of someone who genuinely could not fit into his Cockroach Class seat. He was simply too big. The airline upgraded him to Business Class.
I've heard of someone who couldn't fit into an economy seat, so they insisted he purchase a second one.
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Originally posted by Amorya:
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Originally posted by Cod:
I heard somewhere of someone who genuinely could not fit into his Cockroach Class seat. He was simply too big. The airline upgraded him to Business Class.
I've heard of someone who couldn't fit into an economy seat, so they insisted he purchase a second one.
That happens more often than you might think. I know someone who as a Person of Size (the airlines' PC term) now automatically buys two seats rather than face humiliation and judgment at the check-in counter.
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Left at the Altar
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Originally posted by Josephine:
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Originally posted by Left at the Altar:
I'd like airlines to say, "Well, heck, a significant proportion of our population is large either vertically or horizintally or both, so we need to either make all out seats bigger, or have a portion of the seats bigger so that bigger people can fly with us, without being squashed in, and without squashing their neighbours". But they don't.
I thought they did -- the portion of seats that are larger are called First Class, and they cost more, but most airlines have them. Don't they?
Right. So fatties and tallies are required to purchase first class seats.
Not so fatties or tallies can purchase business class.
And we thin shorties can fly for cheap.
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Alfred E. Neuman
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From marmot (my bold): quote:
That happens more often than you might think. I know someone who as a Person of Size (the airlines' PC term)...
Heh. From now on, you fine people can refer to me as a Person of Scotch.
Alcoholic is no longer acceptable.
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Left at the Altar
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And I should like to be referred to as a Person of Opinion and Lines.
Wrinkly old Bigot is also no longer acceptable.
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KenWritez
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Originally posted by Josephine:
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Originally posted by Left at the Altar:
I'd like airlines to say, "Well, heck, a significant proportion of our population is large either vertically or horizintally or both, so we need to either make all out seats bigger, or have a portion of the seats bigger so that bigger people can fly with us, without being squashed in, and without squashing their neighbours". But they don't.
I thought they did -- the portion of seats that are larger are called First Class, and they cost more, but most airlines have them. Don't they?
Yes, most all airlines have them, but I've noticed some airlines' First Class seats are actually no wider, or are barely wider, than coach. They're merely much more cushy and trimmed in leather, and the dickhead airplane engineers *still* put the headphone, volume, channel and seat control on the inside of the FC chair arm, where they're oh-so easily reached despite my fat thigh mashed up against them. (sarcasm alert)
ETA: (I've just noticed I'm at 9996 posts. I so do not want to mark my 10,000th post complaining about difficulties flying my fat butt through the not-fat-friendly skies. )
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An economy airfare on Qantas from Australia to Europe or the US will cost between $2,000 and $3,000. A business class airfare, between $9,000 and $12,000. First class will cost about $14,000.
It's not like everyone can just say, "Oh heck, I feel like a bit of space for this trip - I'll go first".
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I read that the Netherlanders are now the tallest nation, with an average height of 1.83 m (6 ft) for adult males and 1.70 m (5 ft 7 in) for adult females. In 2003, ceiling heights for new buildings were raised to 2.60m (8.5').
It seems that efforts are being taken in the Netherlands to accommodate tall people, but how do they fit in other nation's seats?
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Originally posted by KenWritez:
I've noticed some airlines' First Class seats are actually no wider, or are barely wider, than coach.
Yes, that's my impression - they're usually the same size, but further apart. So more comfy for rich tallies, but not much better for rich fatties.
Like Gwai and Calisnenath, I find airline seats don't comfortably accomodate my wee short legs. The floor is too far away, and if I sit right back in the seat the end of the seat is in the wrong place for my knees. Eventually my legs go numb. Best to put some bit of luggage (or possibly a small child) on the floor for my feet to rest on, but the airline staff make you move it if they spot it.
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Sarkycow
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Wot a nice game you're playing here: PC terms for people types.
Bugger off and play it in the Circus.
Sarkycow, hellhost
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AdamPater
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Originally posted by KenWritez:
ETA: (I've just noticed I'm at 9996 posts. I so do not want to mark my 10,000th post complaining about difficulties flying my fat butt through the not-fat-friendly skies. )
What was the worst bit, Ken?
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If I win the Premium Bonds I am flying all my family to see my parents in Japan 1st Class. Including my toddler and pre-schooler. Just because I will be able to. And I want to go Singapore air now on a nice 777 please! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Gwai
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Originally posted by Iole Nui:
Like Gwai and Calisnenath, I find airline seats don't comfortably accomodate my wee short legs. The floor is too far away, and if I sit right back in the seat the end of the seat is in the wrong place for my knees. Eventually my legs go numb. Best to put some bit of luggage (or possibly a small child) on the floor for my feet to rest on, but the airline staff make you move it if they spot it.
Understanding I got from one (short) stewardess was that as long as I moved it for take-off and landing, it was okay during flight. That may not be universal though.
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Mr. Spouse
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Originally posted by comet:
up here in "small plane country" you are expected to disclose your real weight, and if you try to shine them on they pop you on the frieght scale. in a small plane, it makes a huge difference. weight has a direct impact on fuel burned.
Yeah, we experienced that at check in for a flight on a 9-seater in Florida. The gate staff panicked when a transfer passenger turned up without having checked in beforehand. They had to bring the pilot out to check that he wasn't too heavy to fly!
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