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Trin
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More than likely, this has come up before but:
I annoys the hell out of me when people call god "She". Because as far as I can tell, they do it for no other reason than to annoy people like me. It is no longer original or controversial. Just annoying. Quit it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Trin:
I annoys the hell out of me when people call god "She".
Why? Are you denying that God has a feminine side?
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Also originally posted by Trin:
Because as far as I can tell, they do it for no other reason than to annoy people like me.
Actually, they've probably never met you. And why should they care what you think? The world does not actually revolve around you.
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Also originally posted by Trin:
Quit it.
No.
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Originally posted by Trin:
Because as far as I can tell, they do it for no other reason than to annoy people like me.
Self-centered, are we? Earth to Trin: there are other reasons besides being original, controversial, or annoying.
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Originally posted by Trin:
More than likely, this has come up before but:
I annoys the hell out of me when people call god "She". Because as far as I can tell, they do it for no other reason than to annoy people like me.
Yeah right, cause you and people like you are the centre of the universe right and if someones does something to annoy you that must be their sole reason for doing it.
(How many times are we singing it PADYS?)
Huia
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Originally posted by Trin:
More than likely, this has come up before but:
I annoys the hell out of me when people call god "She". Because as far as I can tell, they do it for no other reason than to annoy people like me. It is no longer original or controversial. Just annoying. Quit it.
Ok - so what's the alternative?
"he"? - are you really saying that God IS male and IS NOT female? Be very careful how you answer that!
"it?" - are you really saying that God is impersonal? Seems to me to deny 2000 years of Christian theology.
Using (occasionally) the word "she" reflects the fact that the Bible also uses feminine images for God from time to time. I'm sure that there's a Dead Horse or Ecclesiantics thread out there somewhere about this.
As this is Hell, I'll finish by saying:
Just take your tired, misogynistic, androcentric claptrap for a long walk off of a short cliff.
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Originally posted by Trin:
I annoys the hell out of me
Sounds as if you're too busy annoying yourself to mind who we call 'she'.
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Trin
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Not at all saying God doesn't have "female qualities".
Also not saying that God is biologically male.
However since 99% of the time people call God "he" and very obviously, called "He" in the Bible, I can only conclude that people call him "she" just to make some point about God's femininity - and it is ALMOST always totally out of context in the discussion thats going on at the time. Therefore, its just to be controversial. Don't get me wrong - I can live with it. But it comes across as petty to me when people do it... why do they feel they have to take every opportunity to parade their God-gender issues during un God-gender related discussions?
Don't really see what the need is for personal attacks, since I've not attacked any of you... of course this is hell though, so you can get away with it, and it makes it so much more fun doesn't it. Pure Yellow Snow made me laugh though! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Trin
Welcome
Hell can be a dangerous place until you get the hang of it. Best avoided until that happens. You probably don't realise it but you are actually parading some of your own God-gender issues your last post. Think about it a little. A slight case of "pot and kettle" I'm afraid.
And all the best.
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Trin - there are some horrendously broad and sweeping generalisations in your last post. If you want anyone to have any sympathy for you, you'd better give some examples of where 'She' has been applied to God in a context that is deliberately controversial.
As far as I'm concerned, there is no pronoun (is that the correct grammatical word?!) that is adequate to apply to God, and while the bible does seem to use 'He' more frequently than 'She', neither does any justice to the nature of God.
So basically, quit whining until you have something specific to whine about.
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Originally posted by Trin:
Don't really see what the need is for personal attacks
If you care to hear honest debate, start the same thread in purgatory.
You started it in Hell; you must just want to bitch. Specifically, to accuse any who uses "she" of being fake.
So, yeah, what is left but playing around?
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An OP which shows little understanding of the ship or awareness of gender issues in relations to GOd,
but still - great title which makes up for some of that.
4/10 ?
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Oooo, a complaining newbie...who evidently thinks "she" = "bitch". (E.g., "God is not a bitch", as opposed to "God is not feminine".) Such a lovely way to get started on the ship.
![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
Trin, perhaps the concept has escaped you, but many people--both women and men--NEED to relate to God as feminine.
Take a look at this archived thread from the oblivion board:
Purgatory--Use of the Pronoun She When Referring To God.
Then work on your evident prejudices about women.
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Looks to me like just another mysogynist who thinks they have a monopoly on the truth. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
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We're all RooK's bitches down here, surely?
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Originally posted by Trin:
Not at all saying God doesn't have "female qualities".
Also not saying that God is biologically male.
However since 99% of the time people call God "he" and very obviously, called "He" in the Bible, I can only conclude that people call him "she" just to make some point about God's femininity - and it is ALMOST always totally out of context in the discussion thats going on at the time. Therefore, its just to be controversial. Don't get me wrong - I can live with it. But it comes across as petty to me when people do it... why do they feel they have to take every opportunity to parade their God-gender issues during un God-gender related discussions?
Don't really see what the need is for personal attacks, since I've not attacked any of you... of course this is hell though, so you can get away with it, and it makes it so much more fun doesn't it. Pure Yellow Snow made me laugh though!
Actually no. As I understand it, the word used in the orginal language for God is gender neutral. But as the English language doesn't work that way and it would be disrespectful to address the Lord of Heaven and Earth, "it" so we use "he". And because when the first translations into English were done, there was no way anyone was going to use "she".
Okay, everyone, it's time for another rousing chorus, "She is Lord ...! She is Lord". Let me see those hands waving people!!! Praise her name!
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I was under the impression that, apart from stuff which might cause legal trouble, there are no 'things that shouldn't be said' on the Ship.
There are, on the other hand, shit, misogynistic, self-centred generalisations which will be laid into because plenty of Shipmates will recognise them to be shit, misogynistic, self-centred generalisations.
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Originally posted by Trin:
More than likely, this has come up before but:
I annoys the hell out of me when people call god "She".
Thread title. Quote. So, "she" = "bitch"?
Who knew.
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Gordon: It what possible sense was it a "good post"? It was short-sighted, unsubstantiated, totally vague, lacking in any discernible empathy with the people being criticised and utterly dismissive of an understanding of Christianity different from that of the writer.
In short, it was a pretty bad post.
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Do any of the learned shipmates know why Christ refered to God as Father and not as Mother?
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Originally posted by Gordon Cheng:
Hey davelarge. Give it a chance. Seeds are shortsighted, blind, dead things. We just have to see what develops.
Yeah, if we're really lucky it might turn into another "everyone hates conservatives" thread.
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Trin, you're spot on that many people (most, in my personal experience) who use the feminine pronoun do it to shock or to further a feminist agenda, not to express a profound truth about God (which can't be known or expressed, anyway).
But don't let the plonkers know that they're annoying you, you see what rare happiness it gives them.
Heed Barnabas62's kind and wise advice and try making up a line of a limerick in the Circus, there's a much more spiritual class of Shipmate there. Well, some of them have strayed into this thread, you see what a bad effect it's had on them.
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Trin
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So, "she" = "bitch"?
Indeed. Read up on your gangster slang.
Its all become a bit more serious than I originally imagined tbh. Call God she. I've had an epiphany - now I don't mind.
(Thanks FD)
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I find an excellent way to deal with the "God is she" brigade is to bless them by sprinkling them with holy water. They can't stand getting their raffia cardigans and organic muesli all wet.
(Or is it organic cardigans and raffia muesli?)
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Speaking as a card-carrying member of the God-is-she brigade, let me just say ![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif) to the last post.
Obviously God's female. Otherwise how do you explain multiple orgasms? Exactly.
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Well, God is not a female dog or a nasty woman, obviously. (Well, unless you read some of the OT stories where God sounds like a woman with serious PMS... ![[Biased]](wink.gif) )
Bitch as in 'you're my bitches' I thought meant 'someone who's my slave' or similar? So no, God isn't my slave either, despite what some of the 'heavenly slot machine' churches might say.
The other slang meaning of bitch would presumably be 'girlfriend'? (Disclaimer: I am not a rapper, nor do I play one on TV.) Well, God isn't my girlfriend, nor indeed my boyfriend, although you'd be forgiven for thinking so with some of the songs our churches like to sing.
(Ack, I'm just too fluffy for Hell, aren't I?)
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Trin - actually, I think you have a point that sometimes it is used to irritate. But not always. There is a good solid biblical justification for addressing the female side of God, and it does address a bias that has been present for centuries.
Gordon - I realise that shortsighted, blind and dead are areas you specialise in. And seeds and nuts are closely related. And there should be a joke in that.
tcs - Father has many cultural implications that Jesus was using. It does not imply that God is definitively male.
And I'm sorry, but sometimes God is a bitch.
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Melbscape
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Originally posted by Foaming Draught:
Trin, you're spot on that many people (most, in my personal experience) who use the feminine pronoun do it to shock or to further a feminist agenda, not to express a profound truth about God (which can't be known or expressed, anyway).
...unless it's to express the masculinity of God, of course. It's perfectly expressible if one just sticks to the right gender, apparently.
But please, if it makes you feel comfortable to insist people aren't using the feminine pronoun to actually describe their relationship with God, their way of relating to God, do continue. Despite what people might protest who are that way inclined, I'm sure you have a greater understanding of their motives than they do themselves.
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Originally posted by Gordon Cheng:
Hey davelarge. Give it a chance. Seeds are shortsighted, blind, dead things. We just have to see what develops.
Some obscure neurotoxic fungus, probably.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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Originally posted by the coiled spring:
Do any of the learned shipmates know why Christ refered to God as Father and not as Mother?
Because the aspects of parenthood and principles of entitlement and inheritance which He as ascribing to God were those expressed by and vested in fathers in His culture in His time?
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Sarkycow
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Originally posted by Gordon Cheng:
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Originally posted by mountainsnowtiger:
I was under the impression that, apart from stuff which might cause legal trouble, there are no 'things that shouldn't be said' on the Ship.
You'd be wrong about that, I suspect.
Apart from stuff that will get the Ship into hot water legally, what else shouldn't be said on the Ship?
Put up or shut up.
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J Whitgift
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It seems that with everything in this place two camps have emerged. Those who have no problems with God as she, he or some other personal pro-noun. Others who see others spirituality as a personal afront to reason decency (and because they can, this being a reasonably open forum for discussion of such issues).
I personally have no problem with calling God she and actually find it quite liberating. I suspect that most people when calling God she do so because they, like me, find it useful and not because they want to annoy you, or others who share your theological perspective. Prayer is essentially a deeply liberating experience, a literal expression of a relationship with the divine/transcendent. The language of prayer is also deeply personal and is an expression of our relationship with the divine/transcendent.
For many Godhead expressed in the female form is helpful if not a necessary balance. If your God is so small and limited that you can only conceive of him/her within the very limited scope of the English language allows then perhaps you should to go back to the Bible and see how limitless God is. Limitless in both form and expression and limited only by the limits of our minds and by our oh-so-limited language.
Oh, and if you come down to Hell and start ranting about anything don't be surprised if your backside is kicked black and blue by someone with a divergent opinion.
J Whitgift
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Apologies for double posting.
Trin, with regards to your thread title 'God is not a bitch, bitch.' Do you normally call people with two X chromosomes "bitch"!?! Or just the female expression of God?
If it's the former I pray for your wellbeing as I imagine that 52% of the population will be calling for your blood. If it's the latter, then I pray for your eternal soul as that surely is blasphemy. If it's both [shrugs] then God help you ... ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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Trin
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No. Do I heck. I'll try to come clean here.
The thread title was an attempt to set the tone of the thread at slightly-less-than-serious. In some stupid films and rap songs, black guys indescriminately refer to women as "bitches".
My attack on people refering to God as a woman - only semi-serious - came from my assumption that people only do it because they want to constantly remind everyone that they don't go with the normal conservative assumption that God is a guy. My beef* is with the fact that they feel the need to make a point of it all the time - and NOT with the idea that God has anything femenine about him. I don't think anyone would argue that god has no femenine characteristics.
However, I have now been educated - it turns out people are infact calling God "she" because they feel more comfortable doing so than "he". Rather than to make any particular point. My mistake.
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Some obscure neurotoxic fungus, probably.
Which of the two camps, Melbscape, would you say has thrown more neurotoxin around on this thread?
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Originally posted by davelarge:
Why? Are you denying that God has a feminine side?
I am, yes. God is transcendent. He does not have "sides".
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Originally posted by andreas1984:
quote:
Originally posted by davelarge:
Why? Are you denying that God has a feminine side?
I am, yes. God is transcendent. He does not have "sides".
Then referring to him as having a male side is equally in error.
And stop pushing your values on davelarge andreas. What makes you think your conception of God is better then his?
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J Whitgift
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Originally posted by Trin:
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Which of the two camps, Melbscape, would you say has thrown more neurotoxin around on this thread?
Thanks for the clarification. However, you entered were the one who entered the glass house and started throwing stones. Don't blame other people for responding to your attempt to start an argument in Hell, you got what you asked for with interest ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) .
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Originally posted by davelarge:
As far as I'm concerned, there is no pronoun (is that the correct grammatical word?!) that is adequate to apply to God, and while the bible does seem to use 'He' more frequently than 'She', neither does any justice to the nature of God.
One of my daughters never uses a pronoun to refer to God. She just says God or God's.
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Originally posted by the_raptor:
Then referring to him as having a male side is equally in error.
And stop pushing your values on davelarge andreas. What makes you think your conception of God is better then his?
Referring to God as he or she or it is not a mistake PROVIDED THAT one does not ascribe maleness or femaleness or "itiness" to God. Referring to God as she, to indicate that there are female aspects in God is mistaken. You seem to be confusing between the two. Just because the same word is used it does not mean that the meaning is the same in the two instances where people say he or she with regards to God.
As far as I can tell, davelarge did not express a value and I did not use another value to oppose him. Knee-jerk reaction the raptor?
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Originally posted by Moo:
One of my daughters never uses a pronoun to refer to God. She just says God or God's.
Moo
Θεός, in Greek is a noun of the male gender. Just as ιερέας (priest) is.
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Originally posted by andreas1984:
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Originally posted by davelarge:
Why? Are you denying that God has a feminine side?
I am, yes. God is transcendent. He does not have "sides".
But he is a bit like a triangle, or at least he was in my Sunday School text books, but to be fair they also had Jesus stroking badgers and cute mice, so it might not have been that reliable.
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Originally posted by andreas1984:
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Originally posted by davelarge:
Why? Are you denying that God has a feminine side?
I am, yes. God is transcendent. He does not have "sides".
You are denying his view of God. Which is a value he holds.
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Let us break down the word 'bitch', shall we?
Beautiful
Intelligent
Talented
Charming
Helpful
I'm Love's bitch, but I'm man enough to admit it.
Now, let us break down the word 'fuckwit'
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Trin
Coiled Spring
And now, places where God refers to/compares Herself to a woman:
Isaiah 49:15 - “Can a woman forget her nursing child, or show no compassion for the child of her womb? Even these may forget, yet I will not forget you.”
Isaiah 66:33 - As a mother comforts her child, so I will comfort you; you shall be comforted in Jerusalem.
Psalm131:2 - “But I have calmed and quieted my soul, like a weaned child with its mother; my soul is like the weaned child that is with me.”
Psalm 123:2 - “As the eyes of a servant looks to the hand of their master, as the eyes of a maid to the hand of her mistress, so our eyes look to the Lord our God, until God has mercy on us.”
Matthew 23:37 and Luke 13:34 - “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often have I desired to gather your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing!”
Luke 15:8-10 - “Or what woman having ten silver coins, is she loses one of them, does not light a lamp, sweep the house, and search carefully until she finds it? When she has found it, she calls together her friends and neighbors saying, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found the coin that I had lost.’ Just so, I tell you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”
And now, let's sing!
Our God is an awesome God
She reigns from Heaven above
With wisdom, power and love,
Our God is an awesome God
[ 02. February 2007, 13:31: Message edited by: Spiffy da WonderSheep ]
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R.D. Olivaw
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Indeed. Read up on your gangster slang.
So you're a gangster are you?
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The Great Gumby
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Originally posted by andreas1984:
Θεός, in Greek is a noun of the male gender.
And nouns don't have genders in English. What's your point?
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Just as ιερέας (priest) is.
And not content with making a nonsensical argument, you've also decided to drag an irrelevant point straight out of the glue factory into the thread. Well done you.
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HenryT
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Originally posted by the coiled spring:
Do any of the learned shipmates know why Christ refered to God as Father and not as Mother?
He also said of himself that He longed to mother Jerusalem.
And Genesis 1:1, in the Hebrew, has the Spirit in the feminine, I am reliably informed.
Hebrew, and likely Aramaic, has a cluster of words for God, grammatically masculine, feminime, and plural.
All you monolingual anglophones with "God speaks in 1611 English" can go ... listen to U2, She moves in mysterious ways
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