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Emma Louise
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yayayayayaya - congratulations Rat family
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ebeth
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Congratulations to the Rats and baby Andrew.
Best Wishes at this wonderful time,
the ebeths
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Tree Bee
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Great news- congratulations! ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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Derf
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Congratulations Rat and Mr Rat
Sounds like there's definitely going to be potential for baby friendly Scot meets so the rest of us can admire the junior shipmates
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Ariel
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Rat - congratulations! Very pleased for you!
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Alan Cresswell
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quote: Originally posted by Derf: Sounds like there's definitely going to be potential for baby friendly Scot meets
I think that's a certainty.
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Amos
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Congratulations, blessings, and welcome! You little Rat! ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Adrienne
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Many congratulations to the Rat family!
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Fool of a Took
 chock full o' nuts
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Hazelnut glancing up from her customary location to gurgle 'congratulations, Rat' and 'welcome aboard, Andrew'
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Ags
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Blessings on the 3 of you.
Congratulations!
-------------------- I think that we are most ourselves at our best, because that is what God intended us to be. The us we really like, the us that others love to be with. Moth
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Dee.
Ship's Theological Acrobat
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Hooray and welcome to the wee Ratling.
Well done Rat round of applause for all your hard work ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
-------------------- Jesus - nice bloke, bit religious
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neandergirl
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Welcome baby Andrew! Congrats to Rat and Mr Rat ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
-------------------- Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you. Hebrews 13:5 NIV We come from love, we return to love, and all around is love. Lord, ease our burdens, give us peace and enable us to do your work. Tree Bee
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Left at the Altar
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Congratulation to the Rats. I'm glad you like him, Rat. I knew he'd turn out to be wonderful.
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Bronwyn
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Congratulations!!!!! ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
-------------------- Fragile X syndrome is part of our lives. Someone I love makes me proud who has this syndrome. I love you Miriam.
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Ophelia
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Cong RAT ulations! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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babybear
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Hurray!
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Yangtze
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quote: Originally posted by duchess: Yeah! Praise God for healthy new baby Rat!
Congratulations to my avatar twin Rat (and Mr Rat of course)
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jedijudy
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Congratulations, Rat and family! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
-------------------- Jasmine, little cat with a big heart.
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Erroneous Monk
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Congratulations Rat! Hope you are getting over the birth and enjoying Andrew.
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Rat
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Thanks everyone! Andrew the Ratling is absolutely gorgeous - he even smells adorable (something nobody else seems to have noticed, even his doting daddy, must be some evolutionary mummy thing). He has lots of lovely black hair, which I am determined will not fall out and turn blond, no matter what Mr Rat's family may think!
We're beginning to settle into things now, I hope. It's been a little fraught, what with recovering physically from the birth (still a bit sore!), not getting much sleep, learning to breastfeed and all the rest. Not to mention all the visitors - I mean, obviously I can understand why everyone would want to come and pay court to the Best New Baby In the Whole Wide World, and people have been lovely, but it does get a bit trying handing round biscuits and tidying up for the next lot when what you really need to do is grab every opportunity to sleep.
I must say I had no idea how demanding breastfeeding would be. At the moment I seem to be completely ruled by the iron whims of the hungry little ratling, which can get a bit much especially around 2am. There have been a few tearful moments. However, I'm sure this must be a temporary adjustment period for us both. After all, other people have babies all the time, and manage to go on and have normal lives: go to the shops, dry their hair, hold coherent telephone conversations, have careers as high-flying, crime-solving lawyers, etc.
Oh well, I suppose I'd better go and check out the baby and toddler thread now . Thanks again to everyone for your congratulations and good wishes.
Rat, Mr Rat and the Ratling
-------------------- It's a matter of food and available blood. If motherhood is sacred, put your money where your mouth is. Only then can you expect the coming down to the wrecked & shimmering earth of that miracle you sing about. [Margaret Atwood]
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Legodude_uk
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quote: Originally posted by Rat: <snip> Not to mention all the visitors - I mean, obviously I can understand why everyone would want to come and pay court to the Best New Baby In the Whole Wide World, and people have been lovely, but it does get a bit trying handing round biscuits and tidying up for the next lot when what you really need to do is grab every opportunity to sleep.
Many congratulations Rat on your new arrival...
One tip with regards to the visitors....lable the cupboards in the kitchen where the cups aetc are and when they arrive, ask them very nicely if they would like a drink, if they say yes then tell them everything is labelled out there and would they mind helping themselves and yours is a <insert preferred beverage here>. Most people won't mind a bit and if they do, well, do they really deserve a cuddle with the Best New Baby In the Whole Wide World?
-------------------- If a man is standing in a forest speaking but there are no women around to hear him...is he still wrong?
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Jane R
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Yay Rat! and for Andrew Mattheus.
PM me if you want a whinge about breastfeeding... but it does give you a good excuse not to make tea for visitors 'Sorry, I need to finish feeding him - would you mind making your own?'
Our girl's hair was very dark when she was born; it's lightened a bit now (mid-brown) but I think it will go darker again as she gets older. It's almost exactly the same colour as Husband's was when he was a child, and his hair was very dark brown before it started going grey. On the other hand, I was blonde when I was a baby and now have light brown hair; so blonde is unlikely for the Ratling, IMNSHO. Unless he decides to dye it, of course.
May God protect you from Exploding Nappy Syndrome,
Jane R
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Annie P
 Ship's galley maid
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Congratulations Rat! He sounds gorgeous. (Do we get to see any pictures?).
Things do settle down eventually - including the visitors. If it really does get on your nerves, and is affecting you, tell them to bugger off/ phone before hand to check it's ok to come round. It's much more important you get your sleep and are rested, as you'll have more patience for breast feeding then. He'll be just as interesting in a couple of weeks as he is now. The alternative is that you get them to make a meal/ help with something, which would help you.
I found the first four weeks or so, the most difficult. I took one day at a time, which seems to be the best policy. Hope you are enjoying having him around at some point!
-------------------- Older now, but not necessarily wiser.
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Alan Cresswell
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The subject of visitors came up at our ante-natal classes. It seems that the common experience is you're inundated with visitors for the first couple of months, then you get virtually none after that. Which means when it's all new and you need time to get used to being a parent (and need sleep and rest) you're always running around for visitors as well as the little one. Then when the novelty wears off and you really need someone to talk to you're on your own cos hubby's paternity leave is over and the visitors aren't there. Now, if only people could work out a way to spread the visits in those first few weeks over a year ...
-------------------- Don't cling to a mistake just because you spent a lot of time making it.
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Bronwyn
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Yes issue of visitors is a worry. Guess I am lucky we live 15 mins from town and everyone thinks it is the end of the earth!!! Guess my concern is my baby will be born in the hospital I work in...so easy just to pop accross and my issue is well I will be recovering from a ceasor, trying to establish brest feeding, probably have post natal depression, actually have told them I do not want visitors and when I am ready will bring baby in to them. I would suggest as above people help themselves to tea coffee and so on, it is too much for you Rat. Been really tired and pained. at work did a urine test and it incicated I might have gestational diabetes and a urine infection. Will be seeing gyne on friday hopefully she will reassure me. I havent been too concerned about this test as I have been so ill eating wasn't something I wanted to do much in the last 48 hours and it may be my body is reacting to that. Now trying to make food work for me again.
-------------------- Fragile X syndrome is part of our lives. Someone I love makes me proud who has this syndrome. I love you Miriam.
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Annie P
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Just wondering how people are doing...
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Flausa
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All's quiet on the Western (Scotland) front. Just trying to finish knitting a baby blanket before the wee wan arrives. I've done a blanket for each of my sister's kids (as well as two other people's kidlets), and am looking forward to actually keeping one for my own child, for a change.
Nothing really new ... although after my most recent visit with my health visitor this week (chatting about pain relief in labour, nappies, breast feeding, travel plans, plans for stress and visitor control), she looked my in the eye and said, "you are a sensible woman." That one comment has pretty much kept me feeling good all week.
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jlg
 What is this place? Why am I here?
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quote: Originally posted by Rat: Thanks everyone! Andrew the Ratling is absolutely gorgeous - he even smells adorable (something nobody else seems to have noticed, even his doting daddy, must be some evolutionary mummy thing).
That New Baby Smell is an established fact, Rat, though it may indeed be a mummy thing. I love it myself and remember the older ladies commenting on it when my little ones were born. quote: I must say I had no idea how demanding breastfeeding would be. At the moment I seem to be completely ruled by the iron whims of the hungry little ratling, which can get a bit much especially around 2am.
You don't "seem to be" completely ruled by the ratling, you are! It's normal.
quote: There have been a few tearful moments.
All quite normal. I took to motherhood and breastfeeding like a duck to water and had easy babies, but still had those emotional swings. (When my firstborn was a week or two old, I ended up one day sitting on the bed soaking her with tears and apologizing for how horrible her life was going to be because I was convinced that my husband was going to leave me for my younger sister, who was staying with us for a few days to help out. I mean, they had had such a animated conversation at dinner the night before and it was just obvious, wasn't it? ) Disrupted sleep and readjusting hormones can do strange things to your mind.
quote: However, I'm sure this must be a temporary adjustment period for us both.
Yes it is. Just keep telling yourself "Hormones", and put those visitors to work while you sit in your chair inhaling that New Baby Smell (surely while they're waiting for the kettle to boil, they could wash up some dishes or fold some laundry? ).
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jlg
 What is this place? Why am I here?
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quote: Originally posted by Flausa: ...she looked my in the eye and said, "you are a sensible woman."
She was merely stating the obvious, Flausa.
With you and Alan for parents, that Little Nuclear Device is going to be one lucky kid.
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The Kat in the Hat
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Best piece of advice I had was "don't get dressed for the first 2 weeks." If you are in your dressing gown, visitors instinctively seem to want to make you drinks. If you are dressed, they expect you to make them. I didn't follow it after my first birth, and got very stressed trying to learn to be a mother & still be a good host. With nos 2 & 3 I (mostly) followed it & it (mostly) worked. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Bronwyn
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Well I have some news, and have learnt a positive about having an eletive ceasor(not really elective for me but that is what the call it) I now know the date our baby will be born!!! (4th July) Actually it is a bit earlier than I expected as it is 38 weeks to the day, the reason being it could be that date or a week after with the risk of an emergency one if baby decided to well make a show before hand. I don't want that having worked in a country hospital I know everyone will be called in. may be tired and at 3am who can blame them, there is more chance of something going wrong.
Other than that I have a perfectly healthy baby as far as dr can tell, have put on no weight and although I have been very sick and tired the pregnancy has been unremarkable. Incredable for me usually I am a woman of every complication, although I try not to be so much. Guess the other thing to report is my glucose test came back normal and hence although I had a high sugar level and other signs of G diabetes when I did the test at work, it can be put down to the fact I had gastro. I also have no urine infection that again was the fact my whole system was out from the gastro. (relief !!!!!!trying to find safe antibiotics in pregnancy I am not allergic to would have been an issue) Other than that joined the brestfeeding association and that is exciting and apparently they are very suportive up here. The next two pre natal classes will be relevent so there wont be the explaining to everyone as they see us walk in late or not turn up asking if we had forgotten the class. Not long to go for me so exciting!!!!!!
-------------------- Fragile X syndrome is part of our lives. Someone I love makes me proud who has this syndrome. I love you Miriam.
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Dee.
Ship's Theological Acrobat
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yay...
Am so excited for you guys, esp for Bron since this has been such a long hard road. yay on having an actually, my baby is going to be born this day date. That has got to be the best ever thing about an elective Ceaser.
All the best for Flausa and Bronwyns births. When are you due Flausa??
-------------------- Jesus - nice bloke, bit religious
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Mamacita
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quote: Originally posted by Rat: Thanks everyone! Andrew the Ratling is absolutely gorgeous - he even smells adorable (something nobody else seems to have noticed, even his doting daddy, must be some evolutionary mummy thing).
In her book "Operating Instructions," Anne Lamott says of her newborn, "He smells like God." (I highly commend this book -- the diary of her first year with her baby -- to new mothers (and fathers) everywhere. It's very frank, hilarious, and spiritual.)
Bronwyn, sounds like good news all around. With both my kids being scheduled c-sections, we also knew the date in advance and in one case it influenced the name selection. When we found our son's delivery would be Oct. 12 -- Christopher Columbus day in the US -- we took "Christopher" off the top of the names list. We figured we'd avoid a lot of teasing for the little guy.
This is one old mum who loves reading this thread. Blessings to all of you.
-------------------- Do not be daunted by the enormity of the world’s grief. Do justly, now. Love mercy, now. Walk humbly, now. You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it.
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Flausa
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quote: Originally posted by Dee.: When are you due Flausa??
Next Monday ... or whenever the wee wan decides to make his or her arrival in the outside world. So that should be about 3 weeks if I go with the current trend here.
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Dee.
Ship's Theological Acrobat
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Gosh...thats seven days to go!!! Countdown is well and truly on then!!! Dosent seem that long ago that you announced you were pregnant ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
-------------------- Jesus - nice bloke, bit religious
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Flausa
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Well, I'm trying not to count, but I think doing so is pretty much inevitable. Church was pretty funny though yesterday with people actually telling me they didn't want to see me there next week (unless I was there showing off a new edition).
Dee, IIRC you were one of the ones who signed up for creche duty ... so have you been brushing up on your virtual babysitting skills?
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Dee.
Ship's Theological Acrobat
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Well...
Last week I looked after my real life neice for 2 days while my sister was in hospital...She is 11 months old. Does that count
Cyber babysitting could be a bit riskier tho...still with your genes maybe it will be smart enough to blog its needs from really young...Aunty Dee...I need a bottle and my bum needs changing...I suppose if it hits the icon that would work...
...sort of
...hmmmmmmm
-------------------- Jesus - nice bloke, bit religious
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Tom Day
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quote: Originally posted by Flausa: Church was pretty funny though yesterday with people actually telling me they didn't want to see me there next week (unless I was there showing off a new edition).
Standard proceedure I'm afraid. It's funny at first, but the joke wears thin pretty quickly, especially after the second week.
Anyway, hang in there and chill out. Hope that the wait doesn't get too tedious!
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Ye Olde Motherboarde
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quote: When are you due Flausa??
And Bronwyn is due too?
Oh, my gosh, I have to rush and get those baby presents done real soon1
Congrats, Rat and Family!
-------------------- In Memory of Miss Molly, TimC, Gambit, KenWritez, koheleth, Leetle Masha, JLG, Genevieve, Erin, RuthW2, deuce2, Sidi and TonyCoxon, unbeliever, Morlader, Ken :tear: 20 years but who’s counting?..................
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Annie P
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quote: Originally posted by Tom Day: quote: Originally posted by Flausa: Church was pretty funny though yesterday with people actually telling me they didn't want to see me there next week (unless I was there showing off a new edition).
Standard proceedure I'm afraid. It's funny at first, but the joke wears thin pretty quickly, especially after the second week.
Anyway, hang in there and chill out. Hope that the wait doesn't get too tedious!
Bugger, didn't realise that Tom hadn't logged out.
That was me posting.
Sorry! ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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quote: Originally posted by Tom Day: quote: Originally posted by Flausa: Church was pretty funny though yesterday with people actually telling me they didn't want to see me there next week (unless I was there showing off a new edition).
Standard proceedure I'm afraid. It's funny at first, but the joke wears thin pretty quickly, especially after the second week.
Anyway, hang in there and chill out. Hope that the wait doesn't get too tedious!
Yeah, you wouldn't believe the number of people who were 'shocked' to see me at church the day before my due date (oh, and the week after it too!!).
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Or the ones who would ask 'when are you due' and then take a big step backwards when the answer was "Thursday"... as if I was going to suddenly drop a baby on their shoes.
And then there's how 'brave' you are for taking the baby out. That goes away pretty fast though. Apparantly, leaving the house with a 2 week old is brave and you can be forgiven just about anything, but by the time you're hauling around a 3 month old, you really should have your personal grooming back under control
(((Flausa))) I recall not enjoying the last week very much.
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Flausa
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Yes, well I do keep telling them that I don't really expect to have the wee wan on the day. But we must let the little old ladies have their fun.
Dee, I was thinking maybe I can rig either a scratch and sniff system for the computer system of perhaps rewire the speakers that if I put the baby close enough, you'll be able to smell when diapers need changing.
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Dee.
Ship's Theological Acrobat
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Ewwwwwww,
I changed to really naaaasssttyyy ones last week. My neice presented me with 2 real biggies instead of the requesite one. 2 in a row ![[Projectile]](graemlins/puke2.gif)
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craigb
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Kids and dogs, I remmember my nephew sitting on a floor once beside the dog, sniffing each others ...produce....
Yep but I owuldn't miss the nappy thing for any thing, congrats to all new mums and dads and may your children bring you great joy and happiness.
Blessings craig b
-------------------- Amazing grace! How sweet the sound That saved a wretch like me!I once was lost, but now am found; Was blind, but now I see... The Lord has promised good to me,His word my hope secures;He will my shield and portion be,As long as life endures.
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AdamPater
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Why is it that any conversation amongst new parents sooner or later turns to poo?
(I'm sure RooK would have a name for it.)
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