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Spiffy
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Originally posted by DitzySpike:
Who has started O Sapientia and who is doing it tomorrow on the 17th?
Well, since I forgot last night (read: drunk as a skunk), I guess I'm starting tonight. I'm using SHBp, so I'll just bump them each back a day...
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Originally posted by Scott Knitter:
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Originally posted by DitzySpike:
Who has started O Sapientia and who is doing it tomorrow on the 17th?
Today I'll start with O Wisdom, per the Saint Helena Breviary. Last O is O Virgin of Virgins, on the 23rd.
In the sacristy at Ascension, Chicago, this morning, I noticed that a card with the O Antiphons had been posted for Evening Prayer officiants to use; the first is today, not yesterday. I think they are from Galley's Prayer Book Office. So I have to decide whether I'll stay one day removed from the parish's use of the O's or get with the parish's program. I'll have to do the latter at least tomorrow evening, when I'm officiant. Generally I'm alone at that office, and if so, perhaps I shall attempt to wing the chant.
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LBW's Great O Antiphons start today with O Wisdom.
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Originally posted by Chapelhead:
The Church of England website doesn't seem to be doing the O Antiphons at all. Can anyone think of a good reason for this, other than that they have forgotten?
The O Antiphons are in the Common Worship: Daily Prayer book, so the website programmers either forgot or didn't build in the capability for daily changing antiphons. Either way, it is unfortunate.
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Originally posted by J.S. Bach:
The O Antiphons are in the Common Worship: Daily Prayer book, so the website programmers either forgot or didn't build in the capability for daily changing antiphons. Either way, it is unfortunate.
I'm fairly sure they were there last year. I recall thinking that the website was helpful in showing how they are used, whereas the book isn't very clear, if you don't know what to expect. I remember one minister, using the book, including both the usual refrain and the O Antiphon.
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Spiffy
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I've had the song "O! Gravity!" stuck in my head since EP last night.
Which, you know, is appropo as they're a 'Christian' band...
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I too was p.o.ed that the CofE web site left them off. We pray the office here in the office after hours.
The web site is a bit stingy with antiphons. I've emailed them about that; no reply.
Have to go back to paper books as if we were still in the 20th!
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Spiffy
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So, I've got my SHB open and am wondering, what do we pray on Sunday matins this year, Advent IV or Christmas Eve? Do we just get to choose ourselves? Figure as we get closer to actual evening-shaped things, it'll definately be Christmas Eve, so the point's moot for Vespers, nu?
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Originally posted by Mama Thomas:
I too was p.o.ed that the CofE web site left them off. We pray the office here in the office after hours.
At least the link to the intercessory prayers is now correct. It has pointed to the prayer for use in Advent for at least the last year and, like a stopped clock telling the right time twice a day, that's the right place once more.
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DitzySpike
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Originally posted by Spiffy da WonderSheep:
So, I've got my SHB open and am wondering, what do we pray on Sunday matins this year, Advent IV or Christmas Eve? Do we just get to choose ourselves? Figure as we get closer to actual evening-shaped things, it'll definately be Christmas Eve, so the point's moot for Vespers, nu?
Interesting. I'm familiar with the older calander system. 23rd Evening - 1 Vespers of Advent 4, Vigils of Advent 4; 24th Morning - Lauds of Advent 4; Thereafter the Propers of Christmas Eve with the commemoration of Advent 4 with its antiphon and collect.
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Originally posted by Spiffy da WonderSheep:
So, I've got my SHB open and am wondering, what do we pray on Sunday matins this year, Advent IV or Christmas Eve?
I should defer to SHB users, of course. The old monastic breviary rubrics have it as follows: Saturday evening is Vespers for the Saturday before Advent IV, but from Lauds onwards you do the Vigil of the Nativity with a commemoration of the Sunday at Lauds. Vigil offices end at None, so Sunday Vespers is I Vespers for the Nativity, proper. This is from my monastic diurnal, which is handy at the moment; I can check the rubrics for matins elsewhere.
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Sorry for the double post; breviary.net is my friend:
Vigil of Christmas:
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At Matins, this Office is a Simple, at Lauds and the Hours, a Double.
However, when the Vigil of Christmas occurs with Sunday, the Office is said as follows:
- At Vespers on the 23rd, all as on Saturday before the IV Sunday in Advent.
- At Matins, Invit. of Christmas Eve, as below, but the Hymn of Advent from the Ordinary; the Antiphons, Psalms, Lessons and Nocturn Versicles and Responds at the I and II Nocturns are said as on the IV Sunday of Advent; but at the III Nocturn, although the Antiphons and Psalms are of Sunday, as in the Psalter, the Nocturn Versicle and Respond are of the Vigil, and likewise the three Lessons of the Homily, with their Responds for the Homily of the Sunday is not read as Lesson ix.
- Lauds is of the Vigil with Commemoration of the Sunday. And likewise, throughout the Hours, the Office is of the Vigil, of which, however, just as of that of the Sunday, nothing is said after None.
[Added quote code to make clear that material was quoted from the breviary.net website]
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The answer to the Saint Helena Breviary question is on p. 292 of the monastic edition:
If [the Fourth Sunday in Advent] falls on December 24, Matins and Diurnum are as on Christmas Eve, p. 295, except the Collect, which is of Advent IV below [p. 292]. Vespers is I Vespers of Christmas, p. 306.
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DitzySpike
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Not specifically related to the divine office, this site provide podcasts of daily prayers in the tradition of Ignatian Spirituality. It is quite good.
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Spiffy
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Originally posted by Scott Knitter:
The answer to the Saint Helena Breviary question is on p. 292 of the monastic edition:
If [the Fourth Sunday in Advent] falls on December 24, Matins and Diurnum are as on Christmas Eve, p. 295, except the Collect, which is of Advent IV below [p. 292]. Vespers is I Vespers of Christmas, p. 306.
I'll have to wait until I go home from work and check mine (I've got the green book). But if'n it says the same thing, I'm going to bust out the blushing smiley.
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Originally posted by Spiffy da WonderSheep:
I'll have to wait until I go home from work and check mine (I've got the green book). But if'n it says the same thing, I'm going to bust out the blushing smiley.
Ah. In that case, the green book says it on p. 101:
If [the Fourth Sunday in Advent] falls on December 24, Matins and Diurnum are as on Christmas Eve, p. 103, except the Collect, which is of Advent IV below [p. 101]. Vespers is I Vespers of Christmas, p. 108.
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So from a BCP perspective, I take it I pray Advent IV Mattins and then First Evensong of Christmas?
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Spiffy
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![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
So, you mean, if I like, bother to read the rubrics, my questions would be answered? Who knew!
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Originally posted by Liturgy Queen:
So from a BCP perspective, I take it I pray Advent IV Mattins and then First Evensong of Christmas?
Yes. It's clearer with the BCP than with the SHB we've been discussing because the BCP clearly separates the "Christmas Eve" (=I Evensong of Christmas) psalms and lessons from the MP of "Dec. 24," meant to be used on whatever weekday that date is. Since that date is the Fourth Sunday in Advent this year, the "Dec. 24" MP provision gets trumped by those of Advent IV.
In other words, those using the USA 1979 BCP do the following:
MP: Pss. 24, 29
Lessons of Sunday in the Week of 4 Advent
EP: Ps. 89:1-29
Lessons of Christmas Eve (Isaiah and Philippians)
The stuff for Monday through Friday in the Week of 4 Advent, and the stuff for Dec. 24, get(s) skipped this year.
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LQ, you mean the Canadian 1962 BCP, don't you? I think Scott is referring to the American one.
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Originally posted by moveable_type:
LQ, you mean the Canadian 1962 BCP, don't you? I think Scott is referring to the American one.
Oo...sorry. I should have spotted that.
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Originally posted by moveable_type:
LQ, you mean the Canadian 1962 BCP, don't you? I think Scott is referring to the American one.
Yes, but the answer remains the same, right?: Advent IV Mattins and I Evensong of Christmas.
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I just received Daily Prayer of the Church in the mail yesterday and it is a wonderful resource. It has all of the psalms in the proper for the day, complete with pslam prayers. It has a wonderful selection of collects for intercessions and for many days. It does not overload you with too many psalms per day. Compline has one of my favorite prayers: "Keep watch, dear Lord . . . ." It has substantial variety in ordinary time, and a good list of commemorations. It provides brief summaries of the assigned scripture readings. Its responsories are drawn from a wide variety of scripture and are longer and more moving than others I've read. It is, in my view, the best breviary I've seen. BDP, which I had been using, has wonderful litanies and scripture readings included. But it misses the collects and psalm prayers, and its responsories pale in comparison.
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Olaf
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Originally posted by ConsAnglican:
I just received Daily Prayer of the Church in the mail yesterday and it is a wonderful resource. ...It is, in my view, the best breviary I've seen.
Hello, ConsAnglican. You have discovered one of the hidden gems of the breviary world. I am constantly drawn back to DPotC for the very reasons you mention.
Don't quote me on this, as it may be completely inaccurate, but I've heard rumor that in the not too distant future there may be an ELCA-Augsburg Fortress production of an enhanced daily prayer work to join the Evanglical Lutheran Worship "constellation" of resources and to supplement the ELW offices much like DPotC supplements the LBW offices.
Time will tell, I guess, but I'll keep you posted if I hear anything more. If there is a public comment process, as there was with the other ELW resources, comments from Shipmates with experience in using the daily offices may be very helpful in the production of the volume.
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Originally posted by Martin L:
Time will tell, I guess, but I'll keep you posted if I hear anything more. If there is a public comment process, as there was with the other ELW resources, comments from Shipmates with experience in using the daily offices may be very helpful in the production of the volume.
My first comment, before any of this takes place, is that Pastor Pfatteicher simply must be involved.
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Olaf
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Originally posted by Scott Knitter:
My first comment, before any of this takes place, is that Pastor Pfatteicher simply must be involved.
Agreed. Most of his work can easily be imported. Why reinvent the wheel? I'm a bit concerned, though, because DPotC was not published through AF or with direct involvement of the ELCA Worship staff. Perhaps there has been a falling out.
Anyway, I hope he sees that this can be a chance to iron out the wrinkles of DPotC (typos, etc.) and to keep up with the times.
Fortunately, the folks at Higgins Road have taken the opinions of us commoners to heart in developing the ELW resources. I expect that even less people would comment about a breviary; therefore, those of us who respond would have more of a chance to be heard, and hopefully more of an impact.
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I prayed the ELW office for vespers for the first time this evening. I found the music to be touching and supportive of the unique attitude of evening prayer.
I'm not sure who the office is intended for since the musical parts, beautiful as they are, are difficult. You would need an organist, and either a cantor, a choir, or an assembly of unusual singing ability.
Are any shipmates aware of any other musically-oriented office materials that make use of metrical (rather than chant) settings? I have the RCSM book which includes a number of such settings but which I don't find to be musically satisfying.
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Soooo....
Did anyone's Christmas "haul" contain a shiny new breviary? ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Olaf
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Originally posted by Scott Knitter:
Soooo....
Did anyone's Christmas "haul" contain a shiny new breviary?
No, but to be fair I am on a b-commerce moratorium so it's just as well.
Scott, I do have a related question or two for you (and others with sage advice). You have mentioned before that your church uses a book of patristic lessons at Evening Prayer. Is this book easy to find? Is it organized day by day, or in another manner? I've been looking to supplement the office.
Luther's catechism is always a timeless jewel, but I'm sure Luther would look kindly on a little diversification vis-a-vis the church fathers!
BTW, did your haul include any breviaries, missals, sacramentaries, etc.?
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The Silent Acolyte
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J. Robert Wright. Readings for the Daily Office from the Early Church (New York: The Church Pension Fund, 1991) may be what you have in mind. It tracks the current ECUSA daily office lectionary. Yes, it's easy to use.
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Olaf
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Thanks, TSA!
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Originally posted by The Silent Acolyte:
J. Robert Wright. Readings for the Daily Office from the Early Church (New York: The Church Pension Fund, 1991) may be what you have in mind. It tracks the current ECUSA daily office lectionary. Yes, it's easy to use.
Yes, that's exactly what we use for our second lesson at EP except on BCP holy days, when we use the two Biblical lessons appointed.
We also have in the sacristy the UK Roman Catholic publication, From the Fathers to the Churches, and some officiants use that when the reading for the day seems better. I try to stick to Wright's book, though, for consistency.
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Originally posted by Scott Knitter:
Yes, that's exactly what we use for our second lesson at EP except on BCP holy days, when we use the two Biblical lessons appointed.
Good to hear, since it's already been ordered anyway. ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
I'll pretend I didn't see that mention about the UK book, especially since I also didn't see the price.
Thanks!
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Originally posted by Martin L:
I'll pretend I didn't see that mention about the UK book, especially since I also didn't see the price.
It might help to know it's very difficult to find (the one in our sacristy is from the rector's personal library) and that the Wright book is a lot better.
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the UK Roman Catholic publication, From the Fathers to the Churches
The readings are indeed mainly from The Divine Office , but the book is specifically designed for the use of Anglicans, adapting the readings to the Calendar of the ASB 1980 and adding others for non-RC feasts. The book was edited by Brother Kenneth and other members of the Community of the Glorious Ascension, an Anglican religious order.
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Originally posted by Scott Knitter:
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Originally posted by Martin L:
I'll pretend I didn't see that mention about the UK book, especially since I also didn't see the price.
It might help to know it's very difficult to find (the one in our sacristy is from the rector's personal library) and that the Wright book is a lot better.
Yes, it helps. I'd rather search for an elusive inexpensive copy of Galley's PBO instead, or use my efforts to encourage AF and Churchwide to get started on a more comprehensive breviary.
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I almost bought the English Office today, but couldn't tolerate the missing propers for some Marian feasts (e.g. Presentation, Queenship, Seven Dolors) and the absence of the Table of Lessons.
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Originally posted by Liturgy Queen:
I almost bought the English Office today, but couldn't tolerate the missing propers for some Marian feasts (e.g. Presentation, Queenship, Seven Dolors) and the absence of the Table of Lessons.
I saw this in the outpost of St. Stephen the Great for the first time the other day - it looked very interesting, but still kept all of those strange idiosyncracies of the BCP that prove so annoying. I think I prefer the wider Western pattern in these respects.
I hadn't spotted that the Lectionary was missing, which sounds rather sloppy.
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I couldn't find one at any rate. I wanted the substance of the BCP, so that was a "pro" point for me.
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I like the ENGLISH OFFICE quite a bit. It's easy enough to download the English 1922 Revised Tables of Lessons online, or use one of the other UK or US tables.
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Robert Atwell's Celebrating the Saints and Celebrating the Seasons look promising, if you are into a more diverse source of reading. And they are reasonably priced. I don't own copies so I can't say more.
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Originally posted by Bartolomeo:
Are any shipmates aware of any other musically-oriented office materials that make use of metrical (rather than chant) settings? I have the RCSM book which includes a number of such settings but which I don't find to be musically satisfying.
Bartolomeo, your other thread is a good idea. Hopefully it is something that can be safely archived along with the daily offices thread.
Are you averse to hymn settings? For instance, Holy God, we praise your name for the Te Deum Laudamus? If not, I could suggest some alternatives from Lutheran Book of Worship and With One Voice, the latter of which deliberately included hymn versions for parts of the daily office, but placed them with the hymnody and did not include the specific offices with the liturgical texts.
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Picking up on Ditzyspike's reference earlier to the Short Breviary, does anyone have any experience of this work? I am considering (at some indeterminate point in the future) moving on from my current reading of the Little Office and, in looking for a traditional RC office in a language I can understand, am finding the prospect of this (in the 1941 or 1954 editions, I think) rather appealing. Would you recommend me to consider any other options? Any thoughts would be most gratefully received.
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Quick question about Morning and Evening Prayer on Dec. 31. The 1979 BCP has lessons for the first Sunday after Christmas, and MP lessons for 12/31 and EP lessons for "Eve of Holy Name." Given that this year, first Sunday after Christmas and Eve of Holy Name are the same day, which set of lessons takes precedence?
(This problem is going to come up again with Epiphany and Eve of the First Sunday after Epiphany...) ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Originally posted by tributary:
Quick question about Morning and Evening Prayer on Dec. 31. The 1979 BCP has lessons for the first Sunday after Christmas, and MP lessons for 12/31 and EP lessons for "Eve of Holy Name." Given that this year, first Sunday after Christmas and Eve of Holy Name are the same day, which set of lessons takes precedence?
(This problem is going to come up again with Epiphany and Eve of the First Sunday after Epiphany...)
The Dec. 31 provision is really for a weekday; this year, it falls away and yields to the Sunday provision (for Morning Prayer) and then the Eve of Holy Name (for Evening Prayer).
Howard Galley's handy-dandy Table of Concurrence (in A Prayer Book Office) says that when Second Evensong of a Lesser Sunday (I Christmas) falls on the same day as First Evensong of a Privileged Feast (Holy Name), the office that evening is that of the Privileged Feast, with nothing of the Sunday.
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I was wandering through the diocesan bookstore last week. It was the first time I'd been in there, so I immediately migrated over to the breviaries and prayer books. There were very few significant finds, so I began to move away, but something caught my eye. And there, in green and gilt, I saw a title: The Prayer Book Office. Now, I thought, "Oh, there is absolutely no way." I gently pulled it from the shelf. 1994 edition. Ribbons still tucked neatly into the book.
And then I asked the woman behind the counter the price, and she said that it wasn't even in the computer anymore. So she went to the back room and consulted the old price lists. She tells me that "Well, we payed $38 for it and we were charging $55, but since nobody has so much as asked about it for twelve years, we'll be happy just to get our money back."
So I walked away with a mint copy of the Prayer Book Office that I managed to pay $38 for. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
(Sorry to brag, but no one else I know has actually appreciated the find. )
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Originally posted by Ecce Quam Bonum:
So I walked away with a mint copy of the Prayer Book Office that I managed to pay $38 for.
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Absolutely awesome!
I didn't know there was a 1994 edition. Wow...mine is 1987, when the Lesser Feasts and Fasts antiphons and collects were added in back.
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Originally posted by Ecce Quam Bonum:
So I walked away with a mint copy of the Prayer Book Office that I managed to pay $38 for.
<green-eyed smilie here>
My local source is usually good for a stray hymnal on the clearance shelf, but nary a copy of PBO (and believe me, I've checked and re-checked).
That woman behind the counter would be shocked to find that she could have sold it online in a matter of hours for $50 to $100 easily, if not more.
BTW, I think you just sent Scott into a panic. Bartolomeo, it looks like you do have a chance.
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BTW, I think you just sent Scott into a panic.
I've since recovered, but yes, I was in quite a state. Finding a mint PBO on a bookshop shelf and getting it at cost would probably put me over the edge. I'd have to have someone hold the bag containing the book while I did backflips or pirouettes or seizures, or all three. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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Originally posted by Martin L:
BTW, I think you just sent Scott into a panic.
I've since recovered, but yes, I was in quite a state. Finding a mint PBO on a bookshop shelf and getting it at cost would probably put me over the edge. I'd have to have someone hold the bag containing the book while I did backflips or pirouettes or seizures, or all three.
Y'know, behaviour like that might just encourage the seller to harden their position on the price. Best save it till you're out of the shop.
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