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First bits of the talks lineup are on the site.

For those of us that actually go to the talks...

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There are talks? [Eek!]

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Just about to buy our first tickets since 1979! [Eek!]


(And currently B&B hunting. Camping??? You're all mad. [Disappointed] )

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Yay for first GB tickets in aaaaaaages! [Big Grin]

Weren't all the B&Bs booked up months ago?

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I was mentioning this on the Cafe last night - but due to finances, I'll probably have to see if I can budget for Greenbelt 2008.

Would need comments and assistance re hotel accommodation, as I don't know Cheltenham.

Also - I looked on their site - but wasn't able to see material about maybe a Greenbelt Experience DVD i could get hold of.

Out of interest, what *is* the teaching like at that conference?

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There's teaching at Greenbelt?
We're going for the bands and the beer*. [Biased]

Pânts, there seems to be a few B&Bs left that don't involve too long a walk back at night - but we're certainly getting more 'noes' than 'yesses' to our enquiries**.

* And the wonderful company, of course.
** So, what are the plurals to no and yes?

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See, if you camped, you'd have even less far to walk. [Biased]

I *think* I went to one talk once. Fraid I can't remember what it was about though. [Roll Eyes]

[ 20. February 2007, 08:45: Message edited by: Pânts ]

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I went to a couple of talks... but generally left about 10 minutes later to go to the Organic Beer Tent.

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We *may* have aj's family over for a few weeks near The Wedding so we may want to hire a cottage. Im now getting panicky that cottage may be in the next county :s

I was half wonderign about having a "hen party" of sorts at GB... as in looking silly and having a drink somewhere.... [Smile] [Smile]

Good/bad idea!? Thoughts welcome [Two face]

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a drink?

hen parties generally consist of more than one drink do they not?! [Big Grin]

As you know Emma love, I think its a superb idea [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Emma.:
I was half wonderign about having a "hen party" of sorts at GB... as in looking silly and having a drink somewhere.... [Smile] [Smile]

Good/bad idea!? Thoughts welcome [Two face]

Emma, a wonderful idea

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quote:
Originally posted by Emma.:
looking silly and having a drink somewhere...

YOU'RE going to have a drink now? [quakes in boots]

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quote:
Originally posted by Ags:
There's teaching at Greenbelt?
We're going for the bands and the beer*. [Biased]

Pânts, there seems to be a few B&Bs left that don't involve too long a walk back at night - but we're certainly getting more 'noes' than 'yesses' to our enquiries**.

* And the wonderful company, of course.
** So, what are the plurals to no and yes?

Sorry about that - I've only been to Spring Harvest and a YWAM Go Fest (SH in 2002, and Go fest in 1990). I looked around - and after I had posted, I saw copy that described Greenbelt as "God's Glastonbury"...

In comparison to Keswick, New Wine, Stoneleigh, Mandate, Prayer for the Nations etc etc...

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quote:
Originally posted by Persephone Hazard:
quote:
Originally posted by Emma.:
looking silly and having a drink somewhere...

YOU'RE going to have a drink now? [quakes in boots]

"Ish thish my tent?"
"Yes, this is your tent."
"Are you shure thish ish my tent?"
"Yes, I'm quite sure this is your tent. Look, it's got your enormous airbed in it."
"[giggle] Oh look! It'sh my bed! [falls over]"

[Angel] Wouldn't have a clue what you are talking about
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I might be persuaded to partake of a small amount of alcohol.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pânts:
I might be persuaded to partake of a small amount of alcohol.

For breakfast?

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quote:
Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
I've only been to Spring Harvest and a YWAM Go Fest (SH in 2002, and Go fest in 1990). I looked around - and after I had posted, I saw copy that described Greenbelt as "God's Glastonbury"...

In comparison to Keswick, New Wine, Stoneleigh, Mandate, Prayer for the Nations etc etc...

As well as Greenbelt I've only ever been to Keswick, but maybe I can help....
first, have you had a look at the Greenbelt website ? There is info under the "About us" tab and it is worth having a wander around.

Compared to Keswick it is has far more options of seminars, running for a huge part of the day. There isn't a central teaching or worship session like at Keswick, instead there are many choices - a great opportunity to try something new or something you don't often get to experience at home (I used to go purely for the Iona worship - anything else I did was a bonus). The roots of the Greenbelt teaching are varied, and it is an excellent opportunity to hear people from a range of backgrounds speaking on a variety of topical (and often challenging) subjects. Although most speakers will be Christian, there might bwe some exceptions - a few years ago I heard Anita Rodick speak and it was great.

The arts side is important as well, and you'll find a wealth of different music, performing arts and static art available - I would think something to suit everyone. There will also probably be workshops.

Like at Keswick there are many exhibitors, mostly in one "village", where you can learn about lots of different Christian organisations.

Like at Keswick there are many different places for beverages - all on site - and you could find the same people gathering at the same place - I particularly liked the Tiny Tea Tent.

I'd say give it a go even if it's just for once - get a programme as soon as you get there otherwise you could miss out on what is going on. Give yourself time just to "be" as well.

(for me the comparison isn't between Keswick etc but between "old" Greenbelt and "new" Greenbelt at Cheltenham [Smile] )

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very nicely put daisy daisy , i couldnt say it better myself, and I dont think I have anything to add to what I chatted about in the cafe the other night alex, about the differences between Keswick and Greenbelt. Or spring harvest and Greenbelt.
They just don't compare. They are completely opposite. I personally found it really hard to get a perception of Greenbelt in my head before I went for the first time, and then when I got there what I had got in my head turned out to be different to what I found .
I was used to a more charismatic version of spring harvest, and so greenbelt compared is very diverse.

I think though, most people find something they connect with

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quote:
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...the differences between Keswick and Greenbelt. Or spring harvest and Greenbelt.
They just don't compare. They are completely opposite.

Exactly. Dunno about Keswick, but SH and GB are worlds, universes apart.

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In terms of the whole thing about similarities and differences GB, SH and Keswick are similar in that all can be regarded as sites for evangelical pilgrimage.

However, each of them caters for a specific market and the market for GB is much wider than evo's, it also attracts many liberals and radicals and also lots of people of no faith who just come for a good time aswell.

Also GB is an arts festival where as the other two both bill themselves as conferences.

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I think that TG has it spot on in terms of breadth.

In terms of SH and GB you will find that there is a lapover of bands/performers/speakers attending both, its just the whole set up and style and approach is so completely different.

GB is a festival - theres 101 things going on in different places all at the same time with much overlapping of times etc, you can have people in different tents talking on the same topic but with differing perspectives..

My recollection of conferences is that most people follow the same basic timetable (ie evening maybe worship/praise seminars are 2-4 talks are 10-13 for example) even if they are spread across different venues catering for different tastes.

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I would echo Emma I think its important to understand you go to Gb needing to choose what you go to.

Whereas a "conference" the choice is the main meeting or staying in your tent/chalet/hotel or having coffee and browsing the book store during the afternoon seminars at Greenbelt there are things from first thing in the morning to last thing at night. I think some of my friends worked out if you filled your day non stop from sun rise to last thing in the evening you could cram in stuff to occupy you every moment of the day. Cant remember how many hours of teaching they came up with but it was insane.

You really do pick and choose whereas the choice at SH and other places seems very limited and confined once you experience GB

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I think some of my friends worked out if you filled your day non stop from sun rise to last thing in the evening you could cram in stuff to occupy you every moment of the day.

Or you could do nothing at all.

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The first few music acts have gone up on the GB site:

Music Section

Billy Bragg is back! [Yipee]

Paul W
(Who hasn't been checking the site every day, honestly! [Big Grin] )

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oooooooooo Chas n Dave... how fun!!! and One Nation!! Marvellous. I am getting excited already!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul W.:


Billy Bragg is back! [Yipee]

[Yipee] [Yipee] [Yipee]

Fantastic - missed 2003, and didn't think he'd be back for a while.

Very exciting.

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Cool. He was great in 03. Now all we need is Kate Rusby or something and Tom'll be a happy man.

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quote:
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Billy Bragg is back!

Why isn't there a manly-thrusting-of-fist-into-the-air smiley?


[Yipee]

Of coruse the Waterson-Carthy people and Kate Rusby, and at least half a dozen other great acts made that year one of the best folk-rock line-ups imagineable

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P'raps we should run a fantasy Greenbelt line-up one year and see who gets the most artists right!!

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i like one nation, and chas and dave, well ... [Smile]

is looking promising

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Chas n Dave? Brilliant but nowhere near as brilliant as our Chav n Dave fancy dress party e had last week.
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Chas n Dave? Brilliant but nowhere near as brilliant as our Chav n Dave fancy dress party e had last week.

Maybe we could organise another for their gig at Greenbelt... [Big Grin]

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quote:
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Of coruse the Waterson-Carthy people and Kate Rusby, and at least half a dozen other great acts made that year one of the best folk-rock line-ups imagineable

Yeah, and the ones in robes of whom we do not speak...

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Waterson Carthy are playing at a folk club near me sometime soon. Are they worth going to see?

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Waterson Carthy are playing at a folk club near me sometime soon. Are they worth going to see?

Does the sun rise in the East?

Norma Waterson is one of the great woman singers of our time. Compare her to Edith Piaf, to Aretha Franklin, to Billy Holliday. Hear her sing if you get the chance.

Martin Carthy is Martin Carthy.

And their daughter rocks. Or shoudl that be reels?

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Mmm, do you reckon they could get at least one of the Carthys back, 'for old time's sake'? Not that I was there, but still...I can dream...

Already, the music lineup looks good, and so do the talks. Hmm, I must try and make it back this year.

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Waterson Carthy are playing at a folk club near me sometime soon. Are they worth going to see?

Auntie Doris x

So worth going to see that I'd trek out and come with you. When are they playing?

(I heard Martin C play in a folk club late last year and even having a rather oderous chap standing far too close behind me and burping nasty smells over my head couldn't detract from the wonder of his performance.)

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They are playing on the 3rd of June at Hitchin Folk Club.

The e-mail I received says

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One of Britain's most successful and influential folk bands. This is a first visit to this club for the whole family, including their famous daughter, singer and fiddle player, Eliza Carthy.
I suspect we would have to book early for it. What do you think.... advance warning of a ship meet?

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Billy Bragg and Chas and Dave [Big Grin]

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Ags

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Ok, they've just added Duke Special. I read the biog and was just as mystified at the end as I was at the beginning. Can anyone enlighten me?

(He did mention Joe Jackson, which can only be a Good Thing.™)

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I love "Free Wheel" by Duke Special.

"I don't wanna stand still, I just wanna free wheel..."

I think the word pretentious music hacks use is "elegiac", but I'm not too sure what that means...

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quote:
Originally posted by Emma.:
quote:
Originally posted by Persephone Hazard:
"Ish thish my tent?"
"Yes, this is your tent."
"Are you shure thish ish my tent?"
"Yes, I'm quite sure this is your tent. Look, it's got your enormous airbed in it."
"[giggle] Oh look! It'sh my bed! [falls over]"

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No dear. Course you wouldn't. That said, you didn't have much of an idea what I was talking about at the time, either.

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Originally posted by Auntie Doris:
I suspect we would have to book early for it. What do you think.... advance warning of a ship meet?


Book now. You might be lucky.

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Manda
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quote:
Originally posted by Ags:
Ok, they've just added Duke Special. I read the biog and was just as mystified at the end as I was at the beginning. Can anyone enlighten me?

(He did mention Joe Jackson, which can only be a Good Thing.™)

Duke Special came to Greenbelt a couple of years ago. He's an irish guy who plays kitchen implements among other things.
Anyway, it's very good. And lke Orb says Freewheel is a lovely song. Which must be one of the very very few occasions me and him have agreed about anything musical.

Haven't booked for this year yet cos I have no iddea what I'll be doing then. Would love to go, but will have to see nearer the time if I can afford a properly priced ticket

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quote:
Originally posted by Ags:
Ok, they've just added Duke Special. I read the biog and was just as mystified at the end as I was at the beginning. Can anyone enlighten me?

(He did mention Joe Jackson, which can only be a Good Thing.™)

Brilliant news! My girlfriend is getting me their album for my birthday, although I saw them a few years ago at GB I had forgotton about them, but then she turns them up on itunes and reintroduces me to them. Hooray.

Neil

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Originally posted by Paul W.:
Maybe we could organise another for their gig at Greenbelt... [Big Grin]

Paul W

Sounds a good idea. I'll keep a hold of my David Blunkett dog on wheels for my costume. Who else is coming as a Dave and who's coming as a Chaz/Chav?
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Originally posted by da_musicman:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Paul W.:
[qb]I'll keep a hold of my David Blunkett dog on wheels for my costume.

The problem is da_musicman is this could be a perfectly sensible statement for you!!!!

Auntie Doris x

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