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Source: (consider it) Thread: Heaven: Recipe Thread - The Second Course
mousethief

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I believe the equivalent is "blonde sugar" -- the brandname "sugar in the raw" should be what you want.

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If it's in a plastic bag or there is a picture, it should be light brown but granulated (fairly big granules too).

Re the vegan cake, I can vouch for the tastiness of the Lenten chocolate cake. My co-workers couldn't believe it had no butter or eggs! (I should make it for coffee hour some time ... we have a new child at the church who can't eat dairy.)

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Should add that lenten/vegan cakes tend to be on the moist side, so a well greased-and-floured pan is essential.

When making a chocolate cake, instead of flouring the pan, use cocoa powder. Same effect, and doesn't discolour the cake.

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Moo

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quote:
Originally posted by Campbellite:
I was wanting to try a recipe posted some time ago by one of our UK Shipmates. It calls for demerara(sp?) sugar. Is there a US equilavent or adequate substitute?

Light brown sugar is the closest thing we have in the supermarkets.

If you try a natural food store, you may find some.

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Campbellite:

you can buy Turbinado or Sucanat sugar at "Heath food" stores. I use Sucanat for lots of recipes.

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Campbellite

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Thanks ya'll. That really helps.

I don't know if I posted this before, but this is an old family recipe* I prepared for Thanksgiving. You might want to try it for Christmas dinner.

Aunt Gerry's Sweet Potato Casserole
2 cups shredded sweet potato (about 1 med. potato)
1 cup sugar
1/2 cup melted butter
2 eggs
1/4 dry sherry
1 tsp ground cinnamon
1/2 tsp ground cloves
1/2 cup chopped pecans

Mix all ingredients in mixing bowl. Pour into a 1 1/2 quart oven proof dish and bake at 300F for 45 minutes to 1 hour.

The sweet potato I used yielded 3 cups, so I multiplied the recipe accordingly. There were no leftovers. [Smile]

My Aunt Gerry made this every year for family gatherings. She used to use home grown pecans from my grandfather's trees.

*stolen from an old family. <jk>

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Mamacita

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Campbellite -- This sounds good. I will give it a try. Are the shredded sweet potatoes uncooked? Also, am I correct in thinking it's 1/4 cup sherry? (As opposed to 1/4 of the contents [Razz] ). Thankx.

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John Holding

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Isn't it awfully sweet? A cup of sugar to two cups of sweet potato strikes me as an open invitation to a diabetic coma. We had baked sweet potatoes for dinner the other day -- just baked in the oven. A small pat of butter, nothing else. And they tasted just fine.

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Campbellite

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Mamcita, 1/4 bottle would be interesting, [Two face] but you are right, it is 1/4 cup sherry. And yes, the potato is peeled and shredded uncooked.

John Holding, my aunt's original recipe called for two cups sugar. While they are called sweet potatoes, the are not really all that sweet on their own. And I love baked sweet potatoes, which are tasty and nutritious, (until they are slathered with great gobs of butter and brown sugar and cinnamon like at a certain steak house I frequent). [Eek!]

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quote:
Originally posted by PeteCanada:
Oatmeal cake

I was intrigued by the idea of oatmeal in a cake and made this a couple of days ago. It was delicious and I've just finished the last piece. Thanks PeteCanada!

However, while eating it I realised that I was in fact familiar with oatmeal as an ingredient in Yorkshire parkin. This cake reminded me of a particularly nice parkin.

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I'm trying to find a recipe for a cranberry jelly with vodka I can can at home, but zero success yet, even my standbys Food Network and epicurious bring me no joy. I've found some in Google but they're in cookbooks I have to buy.

Anyone have such a recipe or know where I can find it?

Also, is there any danger vodka would interfere with the jelling process?

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I can't help you with a recipe, Kenwritez, but I don't think the Vodka will affect the jelling process. I've made various jams and jellies with different spirits - brandy & port usually. Is there any reason vodka would behave differently?

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Campbellite

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quote:
Originally posted by Moo:
quote:
Originally posted by Campbellite:
I was wanting to try a recipe posted some time ago by one of our UK Shipmates. It calls for demerara(sp?) sugar. Is there a US equilavent or adequate substitute?

Light brown sugar is the closest thing we have in the supermarkets.

If you try a natural food store, you may find some.

Moo

Mirabile dictu! I found a Kroger in town (not the one I usually shop in) which has a British import section. There, lo and behold, was demerara sugar! In a 500g box. They also had jars of Marmite! As I was looking at the jar, a gentleman behind me (with a very definite British accent) said, "Jolly good on toast, you know, with a little butter." [Big Grin]

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Originally posted by KenWritez:
Also, is there any danger vodka would interfere with the jelling process?

Depending on how much vodka it could have an effect on the gelling process. There's a limit to the amount of alcohol you can use and still have a set jelly.

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I would think that it is a matter of how much liquid is left in the gelling process. If you make the jelly normally put in the vodka(replace water with vodka) and reduce until the right consistency.

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quote:
Originally posted by Campbellite:
They also had jars of Marmite! As I was looking at the jar, a gentleman behind me (with a very definite British accent) said, "Jolly good on toast, you know, with a little butter." [Big Grin] [/QB]

Obviously a person of great refinement and good taste! So unlike a certain pesky Canadian who, when visiting, turned up his nose at such wondrous provender!

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quote:
Originally posted by MouseThief:
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Originally posted by birdie:
I know I could just do a heap of flapjacks or biscuits, but I'd really like to do a proper cake, that I can at least stick a couple of candles in.

One can get "egg substitute" at health food type stores -- made from potato flour or something. I would suggest a heap o' experimenting before the Big Day.
I found some yesterday in a local health food place - I don't know how I hadn't noticed it before as it was in the same section I get baby b's dairy-free stuff from.

Anyway I am hopeful that with experimentation (oh no! experimental cake to taste! how awful!) this will mean I can use one of my own recipes.

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I know that this is probably anathema, but I would like to make a mince meat pie for Christmas and use as a base a store bought filling. I don't have the time or talent to make it from scratch.

What could I add to flavor it up or make it reasonably edible?

Would generous portions of rum or brandy do? [Two face]

Thanks.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mary Beth:
Would generous portions of rum or brandy do? [Two face]

if you're generous enough, they always do.

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Firenze

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quote:
Originally posted by Mary Beth:
I know that this is probably anathema, but I would like to make a mince meat pie for Christmas and use as a base a store bought filling. I don't have the time or talent to make it from scratch.

What could I add to flavor it up or make it reasonably edible?

Would generous portions of rum or brandy do?

In the cook, if nowhere else.

What I usually dislike about bought mince pies is that they are too sickly sweet and rather runny. I would be minded to add sultanas marinaded in brandy or liqueur, or something like those jars of Polish cherries, chopped up. Or fresh orange rind.

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My Mum makes fabulous mince pies (and mine are improving!) but only ever with shop mincemeat. The problem with bought mince pies is usually with the pastry and that there's too much of it in proportion to the filling which makes them dry. So if you're OK at pastry and use a good quality bought mincemeat you should be fine IMHO. [Smile]

Mind you, adding brandy improves most things! Try heating your mince pies, taking off the top, adding a generous dollop of brandy butter and then sandwiching it back together again. Eat over a plate to catch the drips! [Big Grin]

I've also got a good recipe for mincemeat streusel, which is lighter than mince pies as you only have one layer of pastry, if anyone's interested.

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quote:
Originally posted by Campbellite:
[QUOTE]Mirabile dictu! I found a Kroger in town (not the one I usually shop in) which has a British import section. There, lo and behold, was demerara sugar! In a 500g box. They also had jars of Marmite! As I was looking at the jar, a gentleman behind me (with a very definite British accent) said, "Jolly good on toast, you know, with a little butter." [Big Grin]

Only a "little" butter? [Ultra confused]

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quote:
Originally posted by Mary Beth:
<snip> I don't have the time or talent to make it from scratch. <snip>

I usually make my own mincemeat for mince pies. It really, really, isn't that arduous or difficult. Peeling and chopping the apple is probably the most fiddly bit. It's my personal 'christmas is coming' marker as it fills the house with the most tremendous smell.

I can post the recipe I use if you like.

(Failing that, yes, I would say slinging some extra booze into purchased mincemeat is No Bad Thing!)

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Mary Beth
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Thanks for your suggestions.

I was thinking of buying the mince meat filling in a jar (None Such™), making yummy additions, and placing in a ready made, unbaked pie shell. (I know my limits. [Hot and Hormonal] )

Keren-Happuch, please post your mincemeat streusel recipe. I'd like to give it a try.

Thanks.

Mary Beth

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The recipe came from my Mum so it's a little vague, but here goes:

Mincemeat Streusel
Make pastry using 6oz (175g) flour*
2 standard jars mincemeat

For the topping:
3oz (75g) white self-raising flour
1.5 oz (40g) semolina
1 oz (25g) caster sugar
3 oz (75g) butter

Roll out the pastry to a little larger than a 12x9" baking tray, line the base and sides with it, trim and patch any gaps. Spread with the mincemeat.

Put the flour, semolina and sugar in a bowl. Melt the butter, allow to cool slightly and pour onto the dry ingredients. Mix to a dough. If you have time, chill it in the fridge for half an hour. Grate the dough using a coarse grater** and spread over the mincemeat. Bake at gas 6 (don't know electric, sorry) for 20-25 minutes or until golden brown.

I tried this last year and it was very well received. [Smile]

* Here's Delia's recipe for pastry using 4oz flour.

** I found it easier just to crumble it with my fingers.

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quote:
Originally posted by Keren-Happuch:
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Try heating your mince pies, taking off the top, adding a generous dollop of brandy butter and then sandwiching it back together again. Eat over a plate to catch the drips! [Big Grin]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who does this. I always get told off by my family when I do it in public (though I'm pretty sure they taught it to me in the first place)

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Hi Yangtze,

I'm glad I'm not the only one who indulges in this behaviour! I feel that the heat of the mince pies melts the brandy butter nicely. I don't like shop-bought mince pies as they are too sugary and have a little too much filling for my taste. I'll bake some to share with you [Smile]

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Thanks Keren-Happuch for the recipe. I've printed it off.

Birdie, could you post your mincemeat recipe? I somehow missed your last post.

I googled brandy butter, which I hadn't heard of before (pond thing?), and am looking forward to making up a batch.

It looks like it's going to be a very Mer-r-ry Christmas.

Mar-r-ry Beth

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Sorry Keren-Happuch, I didn't see that you had started the discussion about mince pies! For a discussion of brandy butter, see Nigella Lawson's books. She feels the ground almonds make for a more velvety texture. My family just put in rather a lot of brandy and icing sugar. Cointreau butter was an interesting departure, but I'll stick to brandy for now. [Big Grin]
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I can check with my mum for proportions but my grandfather's recipe for brandy butter was along the lines of "very good dear, needs more brandy"! I know it's unsalted butter whisked together with icing sugar and my mum just adds brandy until the butter won't hold any more [Big Grin]

I don't think I started the discussion really, Mrs Wogan so no apology necessary!

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quote:
Originally posted by Keren-Happuch:
I know it's unsalted butter whisked together with icing sugar and my mum just adds brandy until the butter won't hold any more [Big Grin]

Have just asked my mum for her rum butter recipe, which I guess is similar. This is a traditional Cumbrian recipe.

Melt 4oz butter over a gentle heat, then stir in light muscovado sugar until it's absorbed all the butter. Depending on the sugar, the butter, the phases of the moon, et and so on, this can be anything between 8 ounces or 1lb of sugar. Turn the heat off, add two tbsp (ish. I find I have a very wobbly hand at this point) rum, stir gently, pour into container, leave to set.

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Mincemeat! wow... I've never had mincemeat; I've never had the nerve. I was traumatized in childhood (stop laughing, KenWritez! I can hear you sniggering from here!). You see, being an impressionable young thing of 4 1/2 years or so, I understood my mother to say men's meat and I was appalled, appalled I tell you! How can you eat men's meat? She went on to tell me how delicious it was and how much my Daddy enjoyed a men's meat pie (horrors!). I already had a sense that the Eucharist was a one-time deal and we weren't supposed to eat anybody other than Jesus...

And not too many years later she stopped making mince pies, so... Birdie, I'd love to see your recipe from scratch - it would give me some sense of whether I might attempt one, for curiosity's sake or not [Big Grin]

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For those folks like me who can't use alcohol [I tried my best for 22 years, but that's another story] taking the top off a warm mince pie and adding a generous dollop of either whipped cream or creme fraiche is delicious. Otherwise take the top off a cold mince pie, add some crumbled cheese of your choice - the purists will probably say Wensleydale but many will do just as well, I think St Agur is pretty wonderful - replace lid and then warm the pie so the cheese begins to melt down into the fruit.

Scrumptious!

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Hello again.

I generally use Delia Smith's recipe from Delia Smith's Christmas which can be found here.

That makes a lot - I think I usually make about half that. Don't for a minute think you have to do it exactly that way though - I often fiddle about with the amounts, using fewer currants and more raisins, for instance - either because of what I happen to have in the cupboard the day I make it, or just because I prefer it that way!

Dead easy though - you don't even have to peel the apples.

Somewhere else (Nigella, possibly) I have also seen the tip that if you find shop-bought mincemeat too sweet, grating over some sharp apple, or stirring in some lemon juice, will improve it.

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I have always found commercial mincemeat far too sickly, too.
I find that mixing a chopped cooking apple into the stuff from the jar, in addition to a little brandy, cuts the sweetness and makes it much more palatable.
I like a dollop of creme fraiche with my mincepies, the sourness goes well with the sweetness pof mincemeat.

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Oops, cross posted with birdie, thanks to a phone call in the middle (wrong number, too!)

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I have a recipe for mincemeat that doesn't use suet - I'm not sure if the French have suet, so I thought it best not to use it - which is for vegetarians. It has apples & currants etc in & sounds good. I plan on making some mince pies for my friend's party on Sunday.

But, because it is for vegans/vegetarians, the recipe says to use vegan sugar. But why isn't normal sugar vegan? Do manufacturers usually use something non-vegan for an anti-caking ingredient or something?

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quote:
Originally posted by Roseofsharon:
I like a dollop of creme fraiche with my mincepies, the sourness goes well with the sweetness of mincemeat.

Since moving to North Devon I'm a convert to having clotted cream with mince pies. My wife makes mincemeat (based on Delia Smith's recipe but replacing some of the dried fruit with a quantity of dried cranberries) and a delicious pastry made with orange zest and ground almond (I think it's an Ainsley Harriott recipe so could probably be found on the BBC food website). The rich pastry and the mincemeat both absorb and begin to melt the clotted cream into a buttery, sweet, heavenly sauce.
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quote:
Originally posted by Spawn:
[QUOTE]. . . The rich pastry and the mincemeat both absorb and begin to melt the clotted cream into a buttery, sweet, heavenly sauce.

Okay, who else is salivating now?

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Originally posted by Mrs Wogan:
Hi Yangtze,
.... I'll bake some to share with you [Smile]

Oh yum. Please tell me you're London based and planning on coming to a shipmeet. [Biased]

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thank you, birdie! Now - who can explain to me the difference between sultanas and raisins? [Confused]

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quote:
Originally posted by Lynn MagdalenCollege:
thank you, birdie! Now - who can explain to me the difference between sultanas and raisins? [Confused]

Definition of 'raisin'.
Sultanas are a paler, seedless version, also known a 'golden raisins'. The best flavoured raisins are made from muscat grapes, but they are big raisins with big seeds in them so need chopping and deseeding when being used for cakes.

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For mincemeat, as for fruit cakes and fruit puddings, what matters is the total weight (UK) or volume (US) of dried fruit. You can play any games you want inside that total, mixing up whatever amounts you like of the different kinds of raisins, currents, dried cranberries, dried blueberries and so on. I substitute preserved pineapple for the cherries you find in some recipes, so I suspect you can happily substitute different fruits (within the total weight) as you like.

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quote:
Originally posted by Spawn:
My wife makes mincemeat (based on Delia Smith's recipe but replacing some of the dried fruit with a quantity of dried cranberries) and a delicious pastry made with orange zest and ground almond (I think it's an Ainsley Harriott recipe so could probably be found on the BBC food website).

No it isn't, alas, at least as far as I can see. Drooling minds need to know. Any chance of a recipe?

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One of the weekend papers carried this recipe for alcoholic jellies. They suggest using Sloe Gin, but state that one can "dabble with other spirits, such as... vodka".

This recipe will apparently make 16-20 shot glasses-full of jelly.

400ml water
200ml gin/vodka etc (or more alcohol and less water)
120g caster sugar
3 sheets leaf gelatine

bring water to the boil, add sugar, stir until dissolved and remove from the heat. Soak the gelatine leaves in a shallow bowl of cold water until soft. Squeeze out the water, add to the syrup and stir until disolved. Add alcohol then pour into shot glasses. Refrigerate until the jelly is set (usually a couple of hours).

I don't know what this is like as I haven't tried it yet. But it might work, or at least be a reasonable quantity guide!

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All this talk of alcoholic jellies has made me think of the ever popular party favor.... Jello shots. It may not e what you want but after a few shots you won't care. [Biased]

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Assorted flavors of jello shots were very popular at science fiction conventions about 5-6 years ago; they seem to had faded into the background roar somewhat...

It would be fun to make "finger jello shots" - basically flavored jellow with unflavored gelatin added, so it can actually be served as "finger food" - good fun for 2 year olds... and SF fans, I daresay [Big Grin]

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Sounds good! I'm trying to make jelly to give as Christmas gifts, tho, so it has to be able to travel via mail or sneaker post.

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I forgot until just now, but I had a friend years ago who used to make champagne jelly; it was lovely. Sadly this was decades ago and she has moved and we've lost touch, so no recipe... [Frown]

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So IOW you posted merely to torment me with the unavailability of your friend's champagne jelly recipe? LMC, yer a crool, crool wummin.

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