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ken
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Probably about 1 in 5 or 1 in 4 human beings are infected with Salmonella in Britain anyway. I'd be astonished if they got eggs down to 1 in 10,000 without irradiating them.
If you aren't immunocompromised or very old, very young, pregnant, or already ill, the danger is small.
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Campbellite
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quote: Originally posted by ken: If you aren't immunocompromised or very old, very young, pregnant, or already ill, the danger is small.
That would be me, then. (immunosuppresed, that is.)
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KenWritez
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Well, I knew you weren't very young nor a geezer, so I was going with "pregnant." Glad to see I was wrong!
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Campbellite
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[tangent] Always check the itemized bill after hospitalization. I found a charge one one bill for a pregnancy test. I assured them that had I been pregnant, there would be a LOT of explaining to do. [/tangent]
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Ferijen
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I bought raspberry vinegar. And now I'm wondering why (because it looked cool, I was in France for the day, and wanted to buy something different).
SO what would you use it for?
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quote: Originally posted by Ferijen: I bought raspberry vinegar. ...snip...SO what would you use it for?
In a vinegar and oil salad dressing, a sauce for chicken or fish, or straight-up green beans or maybe broccoli.
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Dormouse
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I'm looking for some inexpensive starters ideas, which are either cold, or easily heated up. More summery than wintery.
I have smoked mackerel paté ( sm mack fillets & cream cheese, with parsley) and rillettes etc. Does anyone have other suggestions?
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Firenze
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quote: Originally posted by Dormouse: I'm looking for some inexpensive starters ideas,
Things on bread - eg bruschetta. Interesting, crusty bread (ciabatta for pref) sliced, topped with tomato, or tomato/olives, drizzle of olive oil, bake in the oven.
Dips. Hoummous (lemon, chickpeas & tahini) with pitta breads halved and cut into smaller pieces, then baked/toasted to dip.
Or fruit; melon and 'parma' ham (ie, any very thin-cut proscuitto-like ham). Even - if you happen to have quality ingredients - a fan of thin ly sliced avocado dressed with lime juice and halved cherry tomatoes in a light vinagriette, with freshly torn basil leaves tossed over. Maybe an onion ring or two.
Or baked egg - individual ramekins with one egg, slurp of cream, sprinkle with cheese and bake. Serve with toast.
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Uncle Pete
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Baked eggs:
See here
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Moo
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I think they're also known as shirred eggs. My grandmother used to make them.
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Pearl B4 Swine
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Dormouse ~ this might be too un-sophisticated, but people seem to love them: (my son showed me how to make them) You need pickles(we like dill); cream cheese, room temp to spread; deli ham, or hard salami. Spread some cr. cheese on a slice of ham, put a pickle on one end & roll it all up. Stick toothpicks in to make secure & slice into rounds. You can upscale it some my using pepper/herb cream cheese, & peppered ham, or something similar. THey look pretty arranged on a platter & kids & grown ups like them. For cheap food treats, like for 4-H, use baloney, lol.
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KenWritez
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quote: Originally posted by Dormouse: I'm looking for some inexpensive starters ideas, which are either cold, or easily heated up. More summery than wintery.
Goat cheese and crusty bread and/or crackers.
Crudites and ranch dressing
Pecan halves coated with honey and roasted
Melon balls skewered with chunks of manchego cheese and good ham
Braunschweiger on crackers garnished with a dollop of horseradish or mustard, and then a chive spear
Cold, cooked asparagus tips and mayonnaise
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Tiredwalker
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Dormouse, My aunt used to make a fruit dip for all of our parties. It's not very sophisticated, but there was never a drop left. Simply whip equal parts of real whipped cream (already whipped with sugar) and cream cheese. Then provide an assortment of fruit to dip in it. Strawberries, apples, kiwis, and grapes go really well. When presented well, it is appropriate at any affair.
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Dormouse
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Nice ideas so far, thanks folks. These are good, but I will happily accept any others.
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Ferijen
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quote: Originally posted by Lynn MagdalenCollege: Interesting, Firenze - a baked egg? How long and for what temperature? What does one want to end up with? Something kind of poached or completely hard or ??? trying to imagine it...
It comes out fairly hard - a bit like a hard boiled egg. Nice if you put a bit of ham in the bottom of the dish first.
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rugasaw
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Cream cheese and rasberry chipolte jelly (any hot jelly will do)
Tortilla roll-ups - spread cream cheese on tortilla add strip a of roasted pepper, ham and chopped kalmata olives roll them up and slice them into rounds.
Anti-pasta - sit out a mix of good olives, deli sliced meat, cheese, and crackers or crusty bread slices.
In a frying pan cook pecans, sugar, cinnamon, and a couple of tablespoons of water. Cook until water is evaporated.
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Roseofsharon
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by rugasaw: [QB] Anti-pasta - sit out a mix of good olives, deli sliced meat, cheese, and crackers or crusty bread slices.QUOTE]
ante-pasta, surely?
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Clarence
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Dormouse, not sure if you want pre dinner nibbles ideas or first course ideas, but for the pre dinner nibbles some nice toasted pitas or interesting crackers with artichoke dip (from Delicious magazine last year - 280g jar of marinated artichoke hearts, drained, pureed with can of cannellini beans, drained, 1/2 cup grated parmesan, tablespoon of flat leaf parsley and some olive oil to make the right consistency). The other artichoke heart trick is to wrap a piece of proscuitto around an artichoke heart - yummy.
If you want something a little more substantial, mango, shelled and deveined prawns tossed together in a mayonnaise with some sweet chilli sauce is rather fine too.
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rugasaw
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quote: Originally posted by Roseofsharon: [QUOTE]Originally posted by rugasaw: [QB] Anti-pasta - sit out a mix of good olives, deli sliced meat, cheese, and crackers or crusty bread slices.QUOTE]
ante-pasta, surely?
(Have I ever told my maternity-unit funny story on SoF?)
If you eat enough ante-pasta at one setting you will be anti-pasta
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What non-alcoholic substitute can be used for sherry in making trifle? Preferably something cheap...
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Gill H
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Orange juice is good.
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Firenze
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Mayday, mayday.
I bought two farmed barramundi in the supermarket today. I intend to have them for dinner tomorrow. But my fish cookbooks are TOTALLY SILENT on the subject of b'munni.
Oz shippies, rally! (But not anything that involves flinging them on the barbie. Not in Scotland in April.)
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Jengie jon
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quote: Originally posted by Ricardus: What non-alcoholic substitute can be used for sherry in making trifle? Preferably something cheap...
Traditionally it was jelly
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Roseofsharon
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quote: Originally posted by Ricardus: What non-alcoholic substitute can be used for sherry in making trifle? Preferably something cheap...
This is to soak the spongecake, beneath the fruit and jelly? I would have thought a fruit juice to complement or match the fruit you are using, or maybe even a smoothie?
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Uncle Pete
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: Mayday, mayday.
I bought two farmed barramundi in the supermarket today. I intend to have them for dinner tomorrow. But my fish cookbooks are TOTALLY SILENT on the subject of b'munni.
Oz shippies, rally! (But not anything that involves flinging them on the barbie. Not in Scotland in April.)
This site seems not to require flinging on the Barbie.
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Clarence
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Barramundi...I'd be sticking to herbs, lemon juice and olive oil for a short marinade before frying or grilling with maybe a sprinkle of toasted flaked almonds to serve.
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Lothlorien
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quote: Originally posted by Clarence: Barramundi...I'd be sticking to herbs, lemon juice and olive oil for a short marinade before frying or grilling with maybe a sprinkle of toasted flaked almonds to serve.
And don't overcook them! Dried out fillets are disgusting.
Frying/grilling would allow you to see how they are cooking. You could also make parcels of aluminum foil and put herbs, lemon slices etc and bake them. Again they won't take long. Probably no more than 20 minutes if they are quite thick, less for thinner pieces.
Looking at your site, I think most of the recipes seem fine. I'd avoid the barrumundi taco. It's a waste of sweet, tasty fish. [ 22. April 2007, 07:10: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]
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Firenze
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Ok, amalgamating several recipes, I think the whole fish, marinaded in lemon juice & oil, baked in foil and served with smothered leeks and potatoes, the whole sprinkled with crisped panacetta.
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Welease Woderwick
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quote: Originally posted by Ricardus: What non-alcoholic substitute can be used for sherry in making trifle? Preferably something cheap...
I agree about the orange juice but try to avoid using jelly, it really is not necessary. And anyway it's yukky!
Sponge then fruit then possibly another thin layer of sponge and more fruit, a little orange juice or whaever poured over to moisten and then the custard which should be stirred constantly in a jug until cool before pouring.
If making a raspberry trifle, unlikely at this time of year, then cooking a few raspberries with a little water and a little sugar then pureeing to make a juice is fab too - you can add orange juice to this as well, if you want. Remember the sponge should be moist but not soggy.
Now I'm hungry!
I don't know the fish in question but Firenze's idea sounds fab - with the trifle afterwards!
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Yangtze
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What are
quote: ...smothered leeks and potatoes...
??
[Aargh, need to remember that Preview Post is my friend] [ 22. April 2007, 16:26: Message edited by: Yangtze ]
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Firenze
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Final version of the barramundi: I decided the whole fish were a bit scaly and bony to make convenient eating so -
I did the leek and potato ('smothered' just means sliced, layered and cooked in a closed pan with a very little liquid) and at the same time baked the fish in foil, in the oven. Then I stripped off the skin and bones and laid the bits of fish on top of the vegetables, poured a little cream round, and put the lid on again for a few minutes until everything was heated through. Meanwhile frying the pancetta until crisp.
Serve soft mound of creamy leek, potato and fish, sprinkled with crispy, salty bacon.
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KenWritez
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: ('smothered' just means sliced, layered and cooked in a closed pan with a very little liquid)
Ah, I think what you cooked was braised leeks and potato. "Smothered" means 'covered with other food,' a la "steak smothered in onions." At least, that's the only definition I've ever seen and used in the west and south US.
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Yangtze
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: I did the leek and potato ('smothered' just means sliced, layered and cooked in a closed pan with a very little liquid) and at the same time baked the fish in foil, in the oven. Then I stripped off the skin and bones and laid the bits of fish on top of the vegetables, poured a little cream round, and put the lid on again for a few minutes until everything was heated through. Meanwhile frying the pancetta until crisp.
Gosh, that sounds yum.
Do you think 'smothered' is a particularly Scottish expression for a dish cooked as you describe?
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Firenze
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I have a notion I picked up the usage from a Sophie Grigson recipe.
I tend to think of it as applying particularly to vegetables cooked in their own juices - for which you need a low heat and a tightly lidded pan.
'Braise' is broader - I would use it for slow cooking meat.
But I suspect it is all chefSpeak a la Melange of Truffled Sea Urchin Nestling on a Mille-Feuilles of Arugula and Dawn-gathered Petit Pois Drizzled with a Balsamic Reduction and Dusted with Fennel Pollen.
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Roseofsharon
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: and Dusted with Fennel Pollen.
Oh, I must remember to try that , when my fennel is in flower!
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Firenze
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quote: Originally posted by Roseofsharon: quote: Originally posted by Firenze: and Dusted with Fennel Pollen.
Oh, I must remember to try that , when my fennel is in flower!
Apparently it is a Real Ingredient - see here
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Roseofsharon
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: Apparently it is a Real Ingredient - see here
I don't doubt it...but it's a bit poncy, doncha think? An ingredient for impressing Michelin judges?
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Jengie jon
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Firenze
You are aware that further south (I hope England but it might be South Africa) if you say "smothered" you mean liberally covered.
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KenWritez
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quote: Originally posted by Roseofsharon: but it's a bit poncy, doncha think? An ingredient for impressing Michelin judges?
Nope, it's a legit ingredient. I have recipe for the best roasted tomatoes I've ever eaten that uses it.
There are no poncy ingredients, only poncy people.
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Firenze
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quote: Originally posted by Jengie Jon: Firenze
You are aware that further south (I hope England but it might be South Africa) if you say "smothered" you mean liberally covered.
You see, to me, that usage of 'smothered' is no less chefSpeak than 'nestling'. You could say 'covered with' and 'on' with no loss of meaning and some gain of clarity.
Whereas a cooking method which is involves covering tightly, excluding air and trapping heat, is something like the idea of smothering.
And with that I'm off to whip the cream, beat the eggs and bully the beef (no recipe, just fun...)
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Mamacita
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When I saw this tidbit in Sunday's paper, I just knew that it had to go on the recipe thread. See, here in the upper midwest, we are about to be hit with one of the plagues: the 17-year cicada (locust) infestation. So here is a recipe I will not be trying:
Soft-Shelled Cicadas
1 C Worcestershire sauce 60 freshly-emerged 17-year cicadas 4 eggs, beaten 3 C flour Salt and pepper to season flour 1 C corn oil or slightly salted butter
Marinate cicadas, alive in a sealed container, in Worcestershire sauce for several hours. [This step may be skipped and you may go directly to the egg step.] Dip them, in beaten egg, roll them in the seasoned flour and then gently saute them until they are golden brown. Yield: 4 main dish servings.
Other recipes can be found here, along with a disclaimer. Apparently you're supposed to check with your doctor before actually eating cicadas. Right. [ 24. April 2007, 02:03: Message edited by: Mamacita ]
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Moo
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I wonder whether these are the kinds of locusts John the Baptist ate in the wilderness. Without the Worcestershire sauce, of course.
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Oh, dear, I read the recipe and literally shuddered. Reminds me of an organization (club, society?) I read about that meets very occasionally to eat all manner of strange and weird, to put the matter as positively as possible, "food." This would be their kind of yummy. [ 24. April 2007, 22:04: Message edited by: DaisyM ]
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Mamacita
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Only distant relatives, if that. The 17-year critters are genus Magicicada and aren't "real" locusts, so I'm sorry if my attempt at scientific shorthand was, well, unscientific. There are different species of locust on the Arabian peninsula and they are, I've just discovered, allowed under the food rules in Leviticus.
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Lynn MagdalenCollege
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well, sure - you don't expect that John the Baptist wasn't keeping kosher, do you?!
Last year in Oklahoma and Iowa the cicadas were amazing - sometimes literally producing a roar...
We don't have cicadas *or* fireflies/lightning bugs...
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