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Alfred E. Neuman
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Is no one concerned that McCain may be a ticking timebomb? ...a Manchurian Candidate biding his time, scheming to secure the reigns of the US nuclear arsenal so that he can wreak unholy vengeance on his former tormentors? The man spent five and a half years being tortured in a Communist North Vietnamese prison.
Convince me that he's stable and won't reduce China and Russia to radioactive ash in an act of revenge.
Here is our hero being dragged from a lake near Hanoi after being shot down on a bombing run, 1967.
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SeraphimSarov
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Is no one concerned that McCain may be a ticking timebomb? ...a Manchurian Candidate biding his time, scheming to secure the reigns of the US nuclear arsenal so that he can wreak unholy vengeance on his former tormentors? The man spent five and a half years being tortured in a Communist North Vietnamese prison.
Convince me that he's stable and won't reduce China and Russia to radioactive ash in an act of revenge.
Here is our hero being dragged from a lake near Hanoi after being shot down on a bombing run, 1967.
the flaw in the theory is that in the Manchurian Candidate, the soldier was brainwashed to work for the Communists ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Amazing Grace
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This just in from the LA Times: Maria Shriver endorses Obama.
I'm never going to be more glad I live in the Pacific time zone than this election season -- I can go to Shrove Tuesday at church and still get home in time to catch election returns before bed. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif) Though the California Secretary of State is warning that counting the California ballots could take a long time, and I'm starting to think that it could be really close here.
You beat me to it! It's almost the top story on SFGate.com.
This is unusual because she doesn't speak up on these things very often.
My understanding is that McCain's lead is increasing here, but Obama has pulled statistically even with Clinton. The ballot counting will, as you note, probably go on for a while.
(I think by the time you get home from supper, there will be results from the states in other time zones.)
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Alfred E. Neuman
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Originally posted by SeraphimSarov:
...the flaw in the theory is that in the Manchurian Candidate, the soldier was brainwashed to work for the Communists
Yeah, I know. Is that supposed to convince me he's stable?
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Rossweisse
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Yeah, I know. Is that supposed to convince me he's stable?
Apparently, the fact that he never made it to admiral (when becoming an admiral is, essentially, the family business) speaks worlds to those in the military know.
I didn't say I liked him; I said I trust him to tell the truth more than I trust the Clintons.
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Alfred E. Neuman
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Trust him? Really. What do you think of his racist terminology as late as 2000? quote:
McCain openly used the term "gook", in reference to his Vietnamese torturers during the Vietnam War, even since his return as a POW. During the 2000 presidential campaign, he repeatedly refused to apologize for his continued use of the term, stating that he reserved its reference only to his captors. Late in the primary season, with growing criticism from the Asian American community in the politically important state of California, McCain reversed his position, and vowed to no longer use the term in public.
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Rossweisse
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The full phrase was "trust him to tell the truth."
I don't trust the Clintons to tell the truth even when it would serve them better than a lie.
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Rossweisse
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I think it's despicable.
And I think you could say "Please."
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Alfred E. Neuman
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I could if I felt it was necessary.
So, you basically prefer a dried-up old redneck racist Republican with post traumatic stress disorder over the Clintons because you "trust him to tell the truth".
Nice.
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RuthW
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I think it's despicable.
But not nearly as despicable as the manipulations of other people's racism to which Bill Clinton stopped a couple of weeks ago.
Gort: How about you attempt to defend the proposition that McCain is a ticking time bomb? You ventured a possible cause for that, but didn't show that he actually is one.
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Alfred E. Neuman
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Gort: How about you attempt to defend the proposition that McCain is a ticking time bomb? You ventured a possible cause for that, but didn't show that he actually is one.
I think that the deep-seated anger revealed by his use of the term "gook" when referring to his former captors is enough evidence that the man has not healed from his experience. If you had served in Viet Nam, you would understand the level of contempt expressed in that term. It sinks to the same level as "zipperhead" and "slope" and disqualifies McCain for serious consideration as candidate as far as I'm concerned.
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Rossweisse
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Originally posted by Gort:
I could if I felt it was necessary.
So, you basically prefer a dried-up old redneck racist Republican with post traumatic stress disorder over the Clintons because you "trust him to tell the truth".
Nice.
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Nice job of twisting what I actually said.
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RuthW
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Originally posted by Gort:
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Originally posted by RuthW:
Gort: How about you attempt to defend the proposition that McCain is a ticking time bomb? You ventured a possible cause for that, but didn't show that he actually is one.
I think that the deep-seated anger revealed by his use of the term "gook" when referring to his former captors is enough evidence that the man has not healed from his experience. If you had served in Viet Nam, you would understand the level of contempt expressed in that term. It sinks to the same level as "zipperhead" and "slope" and disqualifies McCain for serious consideration as candidate as far as I'm concerned.
The use of a racial epithet when referring to people who tortured him is not much in the way of evidence that McCain is a ticking time bomb. Contempt seems like a pretty reasonable thing to feel toward one's torturers. McCain's temper is legendary; the sarcastic letter he wrote to Obama after an apparent betrayal has already been discussed on this thread. But what hasn't been discussed is that McCain's anger once blown is quickly over, and he and Obama were joking around together a few days later and went on to write legislation together -- article here.
In short, what you say may very well be true -- I don't know -- but you haven't supported the claim very well.
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Amazing Grace
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(Page 2? Is outrage.)
With McCain well out in front in R-land, I heard some noise on the Nipper yesterday about the possibility of a McCain-Lieberman ticket.
I am sorry that I came in on the end of that report, it got my full attention ![[Biased]](wink.gif) .
If he does well in tomorrow's primaries, expect the Veep ticket speculation to increase.
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I think Lieberman said he wouldn't be McCain's VP candidate. It amazes me how much loyalty Lieberman still feels for the Democrats. They abandoned him. He should abandon them.
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Alfred E. Neuman
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...In short, what you say may very well be true -- I don't know -- but you haven't supported the claim very well.
I'm no expert. I do know that I'll never vote for a candidate who as attempted suicide (which McCain has) no matter the aggravating circumstances. I'll also never vote for a candidate who uses racial epithets for his tormentors fourty years after his imprisonment. At the very least, these two qualities combined with his legendary short-temper are enough to convince me the man has deep-seated, unresolved psychological issues that disqualify him for the sensitive position of President. Not all of his medical records were released to the public in 1999 (the last time this issue was raised) specifically any results of psychiatric tests regarding PTSD, which were closed for "privacy" reasons.
Check out how the US Veteran Dispatch feels about him.
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Mad Geo
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I can't wait to vote tomorrow. How weird.
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SeraphimSarov
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Originally posted by Matins:
I think Lieberman said he wouldn't be McCain's VP candidate. It amazes me how much loyalty Lieberman still feels for the Democrats. They abandoned him. He should abandon them.
his views overall are still much closer to the Democrats then to the GOP in it's present state
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Duo Seraphim
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Thank you. That's what politics is about. I thought you knew that.
Take the over personal remarks to Hell, Gort and Rossweisse.
Duo Seraphim, Purgatory Host
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But he's a lot closer to McCain than to the Democrats. This might be where he jumps ship to a presidential ticket since his DINO ass is not likely to be as influential in the Senate after the next election.
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RuthW
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Originally posted by Gort:
I do know that I'll never vote for a candidate who as attempted suicide (which McCain has) no matter the aggravating circumstances. I'll also never vote for a candidate who uses racial epithets for his tormentors fourty years after his imprisonment. At the very least, these two qualities combined with his legendary short-temper are enough to convince me the man has deep-seated, unresolved psychological issues that disqualify him for the sensitive position of President. Not all of his medical records were released to the public in 1999 (the last time this issue was raised) specifically any results of psychiatric tests regarding PTSD, which were closed for "privacy" reasons.
Interesting. Thanks for raising these issues.
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Check out how the US Veteran Dispatch feels about him.
Somehow I find it difficult to take seriously a website that sells t-shirts showing someone in Arab dress riding a camel captioned "I'd fly 10,000 miles to smoke a camel" and others that say "Osama has a crush on Obama", that repeats the lie that Obama is a "closet Muslim", and that is vehemently anti-Muslim . Do you have another source for your claims about McCain? This one is mouth-frothingly anti-McCain. Read more here about Ted Sampley; the publisher of the website you cite is a raving nutjob and a fraud.
But for me personally it might be a moot point; a friend reminded me last night of the importance of Supreme Court appointments. It seems to me that we'd get center-right people from McCain and center-left people from Clinton, and on the court as it stands it's important to me that we get those center-left appointments.
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SeraphimSarov
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But he's a lot closer to McCain than to the Democrats.
only on Foreign Affairs and specifically on Iraq. I don't know if this is enough to make him leave the Democratic Caucus.
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But those are the only areas where McCain is like a Republican. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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SeraphimSarov
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But those are the only areas where McCain is like a Republican.
well, he supports the Bush tax cuts, err...... now
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Mamacita
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Originally posted by Amazing Grace:
With McCain well out in front in R-land, I heard some noise on the Nipper yesterday about the possibility of a McCain-Lieberman ticket.
I am sorry that I came in on the end of that report, it got my full attention .
If he does well in tomorrow's primaries, expect the Veep ticket speculation to increase.
Charlotte
Among the non-stop campaign news stories today was a shot of a McCain rally with Lieberman standing up on the stage with the McCain family and friends ... which would also fuel speculation about a VP spot.
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Og: Thread Killer
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Its wall to wall US election coverage today on the news up here.
Not much in the way of new information though.
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Mamacita
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Originally posted by Og: Thread Killer:
Its wall to wall US election coverage today on the news up here.
It's been like that for at least a week here, with a little football game inserted for diversion.
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Not much in the way of new information though.
And isn't amazing how long the pundits can go on punditing in the absence of new information?!
News at the moment: The West Virginia Republicans (they are a caucus state) have declared for Huckabee. California has had some localized problems with electronic voting and switched to paper; the results may not be available until tomorrow.
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Romney is making a big deal about McCain's delegates switching their support to Huckabee in the second round. This is what happens at these things. Romney should stop whining.
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Mad Geo
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Is there where one makes jokes about West Virginians voting based on identifying with a name (Huckabee).
I can't believe they are still holding out for that wack job.
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And isn't amazing how long the pundits can go on punditing in the absence of new information?!
This will be the end of our civilization (such as it is). Like the phone sanitizers in Hitchhiker's guide.
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How the mighty have fallen. ABC News is trolling for viewers for its election coverage tonight by advertising on Fox News. Very odd.
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I usually don't watch the networks. My cable system has Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC next to each other. It makes flipping between the three easy. Fox News is the most entertaining. CNN has cool maps. MSNBC has some commentators I like.
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If I recall correctly, and I don't think I do, all the networks used to subscribe to one analysis service with the results filtered through each network's oversight analyst. Again, if I recall correctly, this was discredited in 2000 and different systems were put in place. How are the decision desks working this go around?
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Originally posted by Mad Geo:
Is there where one makes jokes about West Virginians voting based on identifying with a name (Huckabee).
I can't believe they are still holding out for that wack job.
Some tactical voting by McCain supporters, maybe? Just a guess ...
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RuthW
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Originally posted by Barnabas62:
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Originally posted by Mad Geo:
Is there where one makes jokes about West Virginians voting based on identifying with a name (Huckabee).
I can't believe they are still holding out for that wack job.
Some tactical voting by McCain supporters, maybe? Just a guess ...
Definitely tactical voting by McCain supporters, trying to knock Romney out of the race.
Obama has won Georgia bigtime -- CNN's website says the vote there is 64% to 30%.
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Amazing Grace
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California has had some localized problems with electronic voting and switched to paper; the results may not be available until tomorrow.
If we're lucky!
One of the reasons I was against the pushed-up date is that there had been a lot of trouble with "which electronic voting machines are certified" and additional time may have given just enough time to work it out.
As it is, LA county (which is larger in population than many states) and numerous other counties (including mine - pop. well over 1 million, again, large) are in with scanned paper ballots.
It is going to take a while to scan them in. AFTER the polls close (they are still open) and everyone who's in line gets to vote AND then after the ballots are bundled to the central office. Which in some of our counties is again a non-trivial proposal. (I don't recall offhand if San Bernardino County is on the paper ballot list, but it's bigger than Rhode Island.)
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Romney's talking himself up big on the radio right now.
When do we get real results?
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I turned the sound down during his speech on TV. A bit too strident for my tastes. For regularly updated results check here.
McCain is on now-I don't hear the time bomb ticking frankly
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When he thanked his mother I about fell over ... yes, his mother is still alive and will be turning 96 shortly.
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Amazing Grace
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Well, the polls are still open in my county. So many people showed up to vote that ballots ran out; a judge ordered that polls remain open until 10 pm Pacific. (That's 1 am Eastern.)
There are reports of ballot shortages elsewhere in the state, as well as a big run on independents asking for Dem ballots (they're allowed to vote Dem but not Rep). Apparently at least one poll worker told an independent voter that s/he couldn't get a Dem ballot, so the counties are making sure that the poll workers know the rules.
Obviously this will affect national results, as we are apportioning votes by Congressional district and there is a close race on the Dem side with two fully-contained districts in the county and parts of two others.
Prediction: The continuing story tomorrow in the Dem race will be vote counting in California. Again, McCain will probably win the lion's share of delegates here; he polled better than GWB in 2000.
Charlotte
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It is going to take a while to scan them in. AFTER the polls close (they are still open) and everyone who's in line gets to vote AND then after the ballots are bundled to the central office.
I don't know which machines those counties are using. Here in San Mateo County, we used an electronic machine which is an absolute crock. Clumsy user interface, and it relies on a built-in printer for the audit trail. Anybody who's ever used a computer knows about the reliability of printers.
We used to use a scanned paper ballot that was tallied in the polling place - all you had to do was to take the chip to the civic center and plug it into the big computer. This county always used to be the first in the state to return its results. If they're not using something similar, they should be.
LA county has a big problem with the ballots on the Democratic side. The Dems allow non-affiliated voters to vote in their primary. The LA ballot has a magic spot that an independent voter has to fill in -- or their vote for a Dem candidate won't be counted even if they have clearly voted for a candidate. This sounds like an even stupider design than the famous 'butterfly ballot'.
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The networks just called Calfornia for Clinton and McCain, with just 15% of the votes counted. They must really trust their exit polls.
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Amazing Grace
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It is going to take a while to scan them in. AFTER the polls close (they are still open) and everyone who's in line gets to vote AND then after the ballots are bundled to the central office.
I don't know which machines those counties are using.
Machines? We don't got no steenkin voting machines. Cal SoS decertified the ones we had. quote:
Here in San Mateo County, we used an electronic machine which is an absolute crock. Clumsy user interface, and it relies on a built-in printer for the audit trail. Anybody who's ever used a computer knows about the reliability of printers.
We used to use a scanned paper ballot that was tallied in the polling place - all you had to do was to take the chip to the civic center and plug it into the big computer. This county always used to be the first in the state to return its results. If they're not using something similar, they should be.
LA county has a big problem with the ballots on the Democratic side. The Dems allow non-affiliated voters to vote in their primary. The LA ballot has a magic spot that an independent voter has to fill in -- or their vote for a Dem candidate won't be counted even if they have clearly voted for a candidate. This sounds like an even stupider design than the famous 'butterfly ballot'.
Aha, I haven't read the article on SF Gate about LA County results yet. The summary says "it's like Florida". Maybe this is why .
I am hearing that the state is being called for McCain (no surprise) and Clinton (this is a surprise, this early in the evening). Mind you, the proportional distribution for Dems means that Obama would still do quite well.
There is also some doubt on "The California Report" live report whether Alameda's polls are still open - I am just glad that I am no longer supporting that elections department . We used to run nice orderly elections in this county ... no ballot boxes in the bay, no bad publicity ...
When we had touchscreens, we had collection centers and a secure private network to the big computer in Oakland. The cards got brought in to the nearest center, scanned, and then uploaded to BigComputer. We had network engineers (it was an All Hands on Deck event for my network cohorts) and senior elections department employees at each site to keep an eye on things. Results were tabulated pretty quickly.
And now I am going to do something I wasn't always able to do on election night when I worked for local government ... go to bed early .
Charlotte
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Amazing Grace
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State party rules; the Dems have allowed it, the Reps haven't.
ETA: and even the Dem thing is fairly recent. I don't think they did it until after our brief flowering of "open primaries" (1998).
Charlotte
[ 06. February 2008, 05:14: Message edited by: Amazing Grace ]
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When he thanked his mother I about fell over ... yes, his mother is still alive and will be turning 96 shortly.
Charlotte
McCain likes to show her off to prove that his family is long-lived, trying to dispel concerns that he's too old to be POTUS. Sorry, I still think he's too old. (But I still wouldn't vote for him if he were 30 years younger.)
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