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Originally posted by LostinChelsea:

More often, there are a handful of "wrong" things -- hitting congregants with the thurible, burning illegal substances during during acolyte practice, etc. -- and lots or "right" practices.

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As long as I get through my first Mass without burning the place down, I'm happy!

I've just learnt that our head server takes the thurible home to practise around his garden! Quite what his neighbours think, I don't know...

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Ken observed:
We have no canons governing the use of photocopiers either.

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Exactly. So there's no un-Anglican way to use photocopiers. We may lament that there's no enforceable thurible rubric, or we may invent or import norms for swinging the pot where we worship. For the historical reason you point out, we simply cannot say there is one right way to use incense in an Anglican service.

p.s. For photocopiers, there is no canon, but there is the unchangeable cosmic law that they will break down during the heavy copy load of Holy Week.

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Originally posted by Ann:
Our church photocopier is a Canon.

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Originally posted by uncletoby:
I think the way to do it is to change the direction of the thurible swing before changing the direction of your own movement, first swinging the thurible in the direction in which you intend to turn, letting it swing back in front of you, and then turning on the second foward swing. I haven't perfected this by any means, but it does look nice when it's done well.

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Thanks. This still sounds like a very dangerous activity to me! I think I'll just be very cautious until I get the hang of it.

I'm now puzzling over how many swings are "right" when censing. I'm at a fairly broad catholic Anglican parish which borrows most of its liturgical practice from the modern RC form, as well as maintaining some older practices from days of yore.

GIRM suggests three swings for anything I would need to cense (sacrament, celebrant, deacon, servers, choir etc).

My 11th edition of Ritual Notes suggests three for the celebrant, and double swings for more or less everyone else.

Meanwhile Wikipedia (don't laugh!) suggests that "traditionally" Anglican practice is:

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* Three sets of triple swings: When censing the Most Blessed Sacrament
* Three sets of double swings: When censing images, relics, and other sacramentals, also when censing the celebrant.
* Two sets of double swings: When censing a Deacon.
* One set of double swings: When censing a Sub-Deacon.
* Three sets of single swings: When censing the congregation

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What gives?

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Originally posted by Tom S:
How exactly does one turn corners?

On the last page Cusanus offered the following advice:

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I've seen two ways of turning 90 degrees. One is to reduce the arc of the swing over a couple of steps, turn and then pick up the swing again. The other is the slightly more dangerous method of changing the direction of the swing by turning your swinging arm before you turn the rest of your body.

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I'd love to perfect the second method (I've seen it done and it looks cool!) but it scares me.

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I think the way to do it is to change the direction of the thurible swing before changing the direction of your own movement, first swinging the thurible in the direction in which you intend to turn, letting it swing back in front of you, and then turning on the second forward swing. I haven't perfected this by any means, but it does look nice when it's done well.

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Originally posted by Carys:
I'm crucifer for a friend's wedding

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Originally posted by Ann:
Our church photocopier is a Canon.

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They bestow canonries for doing just about anything these days, don't they?

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Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
Where does a crucifer appear anywhere in the Book of Common Prayer?

I too want to live and learn.

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I think its one of the Ornaments which may, or may not be referred to by the Rubric

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Originally posted by New Yorker:
I served as thurifer for the first time this morning. I noticed that when I began to take a swing at Father, he bent backwards just in case. So much for the confidence vote!

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You didn't lunge your whole body forward, did you? It doesn't make the smoke travel any further but it's funny to watch people do it. It reminds me of one occasion when I was little and the batteries in the remote control to my grandmother's television set were on the brink of death. She would swing the remote control violently while pressing the button, almost like an aspergillum, seemingly trying to give the signal some momentum so it would reach the television.

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You didn't lunge your whole body forward, did you? It doesn't make the smoke travel any further but it's funny to watch people do it. It reminds me of one occasion when I was little and the batteries in the remote control to my grandmother's television set were on the brink of death. She would swing the remote control violently while pressing the button, almost like an aspergillum, seemingly trying to give the signal some momentum so it would reach the television.

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