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Badger Lady
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Originally posted by Figbash:
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Originally posted by Anglican2009:
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Originally posted by Badger Lady:
A motivation of racial hatred will result in a higher tariff (minimum time spent locked up before release) as it is an aggravating feature. This is the same regardless of the colour of the murderer and victim
This is exactly my point.
No it's the opposite of your point. You were claiming that the law was inherently biased, and I asked you for evidence to support that claim (which I note you have not given).
Blimey, my five-year-old cousin has better reading comprehension [*].
I [**] was making the opposite point from you - that the law is inherently neutral on this point (thank you figbash). You now appear to have switched to saying the police are the issue (not the statute itself) but offer no evidence in support.
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Originally posted by Spike:
You keep on with this phrase "More Equal". Can you explain what this means? Either someone or something is equal or not. You cannot have more or less equal, it simply doesn't exist. Were you missing the day they did maths at your school?
I assumed this was an Animal Farm reference ("all animals are equal but some are more equal than others") but on second thoughts I'm not sure I should credit Anglican2009 with that sort of reading ability.
[*] As it seems to colour your view of people you should know he's not white, btw
[**] And I'm not white either, btw
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
Put it this way: there is one A2009.
Not even one any more. The A2009 is now part of the A262 just outside Ashford in Kent.
The B2009, on the other hand, is the road from Thong to Meopham. Seriously.
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All this talk of traitors sounds remarkably like American right-wing loonies...
Ah, but he's talking 'race traitors' which combined with his twisted white supremacist theology aligns him with loonies that are so far right they are forced to go live in compounds in Idaho.
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Or with the Malfoys.
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This thread is good. I'm just waiting for one of Anglishit's relatives (if he has any that haven't disowned him) to let us know he worked himself into such a tizzy that his head exploded.
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Originally posted by Badger Lady:
[QUOTE]I assumed this was an Animal Farm reference ("all animals are equal but some are more equal than others") but on second thoughts I'm not sure I should credit Anglican2009 with that sort of reading ability.
That's where I was coming from too
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Originally posted by ken:
The A2009 is now part of the A262 just outside Ashford in Kent.
The B2009, on the other hand, is the road from Thong to Meopham. Seriously.
I'd love to think you googled this, but I suspect not. It's more likely that you've memorised the last 30 years of AA roadmaps as a party trick.
FFS Ken, I can barely remember where my house is. ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif)
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Originally posted by pjkirk:
This thread is good. I'm just waiting for one of Anglishit's relatives (if he has any that haven't disowned him) to let us know he worked himself into such a tizzy that his head exploded.
What makes you think Angela1558 has any relatives, or anyone who cares about him at all?
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Originally posted by §Andrew:
Oh, and Peter lost the game to Paul. If his views had prevailed, then the history of Christianity would be rather different.
Not altogether true. Peter, aided and later superceded by James, almost certainly crushed Paul out of Antioch, and Galatians, the Corinthian correspondence, Romans and Philippians (in chronological order) suggest they and arguably others then set about silencing his mission elsewhere. "Matthew", whoever the author of the canonically first gospel was and the author of James (almost certainly not James), pick up the cudgels and does his best to wipe Paul of the face of the earth. Paul was probably dead by then anyway. Fortunately for the hellenists, (but devastatingly for the Jews) the first Jewish War led to such reprisals against Christian Jews and normative Jews alike that both were decimated, and the hellenistic seeds sown by Paul and others grew unchecked by Roman authorities - until about 105 a.d. ... by then the hellenistic cat was well and truly out of the bag, and the result is, I think, rather good. The cost though to the losing combatants was horrific.
Brush up on your scholarship, boyo.
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Zappa
Do you mean decimated or the other way around(decimated means one in ten killed, I often wrongly use it to mean only a remnant remain i.e. about a tenth)?
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Ye gods! I bet the Romans* never had such problems. Anglican2009 has done a magnificent job of proving to his own satisfaction** that it is wrong and unChristian to seek to abolish slavery, even that those who do so
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cross the line into worldly politics, and are no longer Christians in good standing.
But does he have the courage of his convictions? Is he prepared to put his principles into practice and act like a good slave should? Is he bollocks. He’s completely ignored every command I’ve given him. As soon as I enslave him, he starts acting like a bloody abolitionist. I’m beginning to suspect (heaven forbid!) that he doesn’t actually believe any of the shit which he is spouting. Who would have thought it?
Look, slave – cut out the backchat. It makes you look insolent and makes me embarrassed to have enthralled you.
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Originally posted by Anglican2009:
I personally would purchase a slave if one were available for sale.
Well I’m not going to sell you. I couldn’t, in all conscience. It would be like selling a car with bald tyres and no brakes. Even if I warned the purchaser, I’d feel shitty doing it. So if this is going to work, if you are going to use your humble Christian obedience as a good witness to win my salvation, you’d better smarten your ideas up sharpish, and start doing what I tell you.
Now say that you’re sorry and then shut up.
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Originally posted by Eliab:
Ye gods! I bet the Romans* never had such problems. Anglican2009 has done a magnificent job of proving to his own satisfaction** that it is wrong and unChristian to seek to abolish slavery, even that those who do so
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cross the line into worldly politics, and are no longer Christians in good standing.
But does he have the courage of his convictions? Is he prepared to put his principles into practice and act like a good slave should? Is he bollocks. He’s completely ignored every command I’ve given him. As soon as I enslave him, he starts acting like a bloody abolitionist. I’m beginning to suspect (heaven forbid!) that he doesn’t actually believe any of the shit which he is spouting. Who would have thought it?
Look, slave – cut out the backchat. It makes you look insolent and makes me embarrassed to have enthralled you.
(*Empire, not Church)
(**although not anyone else’s)
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Originally posted by Anglican2009:
I personally would purchase a slave if one were available for sale.
Well I’m not going to sell you. I couldn’t, in all conscience. It would be like selling a car with bald tyres and no brakes. Even if I warned the purchaser, I’d feel shitty doing it. So if this is going to work, if you are going to use your humble Christian obedience as a good witness to win my salvation, you’d better smarten your ideas up sharpish, and start doing what I tell you.
Now say that you’re sorry and then shut up.
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Told ya so, Eliab - just can't get the staff these dretful, immgrunt-overrun days.
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As this thread has touched on the subject of slavery, I thought I'd add a nugget of information.
Whatever one may think about the bible's/Jesus's/Paul's teaching on the institution of slavery (and I'm not intending to start that debate here), there are two verses (OT and NT) which condemn the practice of forcible enslavement. (These back up the Church's teaching referred to by Hawk in his post in the middle of page 8 above).
In the list of lawbreakers, ungodly, and sinful in 1Tim1:9-10 Paul includes ' andrapodistais ' who were slave-traders. (Literally 'those who deal in men-footed things') The translation 'kidnappers' that appears in some versions of the bible comes from their practice of forcibly abducting people and selling them into slavery. (If you don't have to pay for your stock, the profit is greater.)
The same practice was forbidden among the people of Israel in Deut24:7
I regret that I'm not going to engage with the main theme of the thread, as I haven't got time to engage in troll-feeding, and I've wasted far too much time reading it. ![[Frown]](frown.gif) It's been a laugh, though.
Sorry for taking the thread off-topic ![[Biased]](wink.gif) I'll go back to Kerygmania... ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Spiffy:
Same inflexible fundamentalisim, just dressed up in a shiny new atheist outfit.
I'm not an atheist. But don't let what I say stop you. If you were to actually engage with what I'm saying, then things might get uncomfortable for you. Do carry on.
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Originally posted by Zappa:
Not altogether true.
So, not altogether true, but true nevertheless because, well, no Christian follows the Law nowadays...
Anyway, be it as it may, although I would point out that the epistles which you mention do say very officially that the issue was resolved during Paul's lifetime in favor of his views and against the views of Peter.
It's hard though to try and reconstruct historical truth, when all the new testament documents try to obfuscate truth in favor of each author's agenda and propaganda.
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fletcher christian
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So, not altogether true, but true nevertheless because, well, no Christian follows the Law nowadays...
some do
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Zappa
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Originally posted by §Andrew:
It's hard though to try and reconstruct historical truth, when all the new testament documents try to obfuscate truth in favor of each author's agenda and propaganda
... that's called communication, and in the time of the authorship of the documents they were matters often of life and death. By and large the subjective elements of that process of communication are inescapable.
Though some think they are.
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infinite_monkey
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Originally posted by Alaric the Goth:
Given that we are all Atheist Socialists or Marxist Atheists on here, and hadn’t realised ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif) , perhaps we need a name change amnesty to reflect this. The following suggestions may (not) be taken up:
- Marxin the Marxist Marxthief
- Atheiab chastmarxist
- Marx Black Sioni Socialist
- Marxseger kenmarx
Allmarxist the Goth
I very much look forward to my first post as Infinite_Marxist.
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Originally Posted by Anglican2009
In 200 years' time, female clergymen and anal sex amongst men may be accepted by the shell of the organisation called the CofE today. The triumph of Satan would then be total.
Can I please use this as my sig? It's the absolute best fruitcake myopia I've come across in years.
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Methinks Angela has been reading Frederick Baron Corvo [Fr Rolfe]'s Hadrian the VII - but probably missing out the longer words as he lacks both the wit and the erudition of that fairly appalling author.
As I got up to pee in the night I was also wondering whether he [Angela] was a sounding gong or a tinkling cymbal but decided he is really more like a pixie farting under a toadstool.
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Originally posted by Zappa:
Sir Wiff, or is it Waff?, I believe it is a grotesqueness and a sin and may even make the Baby Jesus cry to have been thinking of Angela whilst twinkling in the darkness.
Better to twinkle in the darkness than curse the troll.
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Anglican2009
Does it bother you that you're complaining about multiculturalism while being a multicultural person yourself?
Does it bother you that, having attempted to wind other people up, you're getting uptight?
Does it bother you that your reliance on truthiness rather than evidence has been exposed?
Does it bother you that your OP was a complaint about us using religion to justify extremist politics, and yet you're trying to do the same thing (unless you're a group of students having a laugh)? Accusing others of the thing that you're doing yourself is straight from the BNP/CCB playbook, isn't it?
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1Tim1 refers to "menstealers". This must mean people who steal other men's slaves, and by extension those who oppose slavery as a system. As the 10 commandments say: Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour's.
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Jengie jon
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Intriguingly modern versions have "slave traders" (NIV) or "enslavers" there. I think it probably refers to piratical practice of kidnapping people and selling them as slaves.
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Welease Woderwick
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One of my neighbours has a really cute ass, can I get away with just admiring it?
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What part of Matt. 7:1 don't you understand?
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Originally posted by Anglican2009:
1Tim1 refers to "menstealers". This must mean people who steal other men's slaves
"Must"? "Must"? That's a very strong word to use to describe an interpretation of a verse that's so far off the wall that even the most looniest of loonies would have difficulty even contemplating that as a valid interpretation. Afterall, the author of Timothy could have chosen a number of other words to describe people who take the property of others ... "thief" would be the obvious one!
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and by extension those who oppose slavery as a system.
Even if the totally idiot interpretation you presented could be justified, the extension doesn't necessarily follow. Any more than you can say that if someone nicks your car they're obviously in opposition to the system of private ownership or campaigning for better public transport.
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Originally posted by Anglican2009:
1Tim1 refers to "menstealers". This must mean people who steal other men's slaves, and by extension those who oppose slavery as a system.
Why "must" that be the interpretation?
Oh right, because you want it to be. Because that interpretation allows you to pursue your hate-filled racist agenda.
You're scum, you know that? And why haven't you obeyed your master?
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Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Intriguingly modern versions have "slave traders" (NIV) or "enslavers" there. I think it probably refers to piratical practice of kidnapping people and selling them as slaves.
Don't be silly - why would you think Angie would listen to a modern translation, (or the original text - 'cos it's in forin' and so obviously it's inferior)? Didn't you know that anything other than the garbled KJV is a work of satan?
In that vein, did the KJV just make up the word "menstealers" or was it in use at the time? Can we know what the translator was actually talking about?
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I looked up 1 Timothy 1:10 in multiple translations at Bible Gateway.
The word is translated as 'slave traders', 'enslavers', 'menstealers', and 'kidnappers'.
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Methinks the OP-er is now taking the piss. That's not a serious exegesis, even for a really really really right-wing looney.
Maybe our work here is done.
Or maybe they just got over their gout.
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I have been reading the inane crusading ramblings of AngriTroll Beta v2.009 with great delight and watching with amazement the systematic demolition of the vague arguments laced with "truthiness" (Thanks Alwyn), and for some time now have been content to watch other people poke holes in the wet paper bag holding his/her arguments. However, the time has come for me to weigh in on the slavery issue.
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1Tim1 refers to "menstealers". This must mean people who steal other men's slaves, and by extension those who oppose slavery as a system. As the 10 commandments say: Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour's.
Well...no. This MUST not be anything of the sort. How do you make the link between "menstealers" and opposing slavery? Wouldn't that mean that "menstealers" would be freeing the slaves rather than kidnapping them to be sold as slaves to another person? Because that doesn't make sense if they opposed the very institution they endeavour to make a quick profit from.
Menstealing is clearly defined as quote:
'slave traders', 'enslavers', 'menstealers', and 'kidnappers'.
(Thanks Moo)
So you see, your argument is proved baseless by your own words
"Slaves" are owned. "Servants" (manservants or maidservants) are hired/employed. So the Commandment you are quoting doesn't apply to "slavery", but "servants". The operative word is "stealing" which is not "coveting". The stealing is dealt with in another Commandment. Look it up.
Oh, and just a teensy little hint...If you are going to "interpret" scripture (which you have obviously done), at least refer to it as your interpretation, or what you believe the scripture means, rather than purporting it as fact. Because that just makes you appear loony.
Feel free to accept that your arguments have been obliterated by all and sundry, with far more finesse and factual reasoning than you possess. Or not.
It's fair to say we know which way you will go....
Oh by the way, can you please enlighten me on my spiritual journey? I post on the Ship, so I must be a part of the great unwashed Faux Christians who infest this site, and therefore in dire need of Salvation*
* The Salvation only Angrican't 1492AD knows how to possess
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Originally posted by Hawk:
Didn't you know that anything other than the garbled KJV is a work of satan?
Absolutely! Everybody knows that the KJV is the bible that Jesus used.
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Originally posted by Anglican2009:
Infinite Monkey you may use my deep thoughts in your signature.
That line does remind me very much of the posting style of someone who is already on board...
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Originally posted by davelarge:
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Originally posted by Hawk:
Didn't you know that anything other than the garbled KJV is a work of satan?
Absolutely! Everybody knows that the KJV is the bible that Jesus used.
Wrong, heathen! The KJV fell out of Jesus' pocket as He ascended. He'd very helpfully written out His words in red, too.
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Originally posted by Spiffy:
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Originally posted by davelarge:
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Originally posted by Hawk:
Didn't you know that anything other than the garbled KJV is a work of satan?
Absolutely! Everybody knows that the KJV is the bible that Jesus used.
Wrong, heathen! The KJV fell out of Jesus' pocket as He ascended. He'd very helpfully written out His words in red, too.
As Saint Adrian of Plass so truthfully put it:
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KJV: form in which the Bible was originally written in seventeenth century English. Later translated into Hebrew and Greek for some obscure reason, and then translated back again into those ridiculous modern English versions.
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Originally posted by Anglican2009:
You are people who have no strong doctrinal beliefs - certainly not in anything written in the Bible - but you simply believe in "being nice people"...
Well you obviously don't.
I am not nice to racists and homophobes: in fact I make a point of it. So we agree on something.
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I have proved my point to the satisfaction of people of good faith.
Who? Where? How many people do you know who fit that description? And how did they show their satisfaction?
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I may log on de temps en temps...
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Originally posted by §Andrew:
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Originally posted by Spiffy:
Same inflexible fundamentalisim, just dressed up in a shiny new atheist outfit.
I'm not an atheist. But don't let what I say stop you. If you were to actually engage with what I'm saying, then things might get uncomfortable for you. Do carry on.
Squiggle, I wouldn't engage with you if you were the last man on earth and presented me with the Hope Diamond on a ring. You're not my type. I might be able to forgive my partner for being male, but I will never, no never, marry someone who claims they can read my mind and tell how firm my beliefs are.
Unlike yourself, other people having differeing opinions doesn't make me uncomfortable. The only thing that really makes me uncomfortable are high heeled shoes and too-tight underwear.
Oh, wait, is that the kind of 'engagement' you want? Because in English, that's actually called a 'scene'. It's not my kink, but I can get you some web links, if your Google-fu has failed.
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Didn't you know that anything other than the garbled KJV is a work of satan?
Absolutely! Everybody knows that the KJV is the bible that Jesus used.
Can I make a basic point? Jesus was not an Englishman. He may have spoken in foreign, but our own church has spoken to we Anglo Saxons in our own Nordic tongue and the KJV is the greatest gift the CofE has made to the English nation.
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Dear beloved brethren,
I have posted here to explain a few things to you in the hope the Holy Ghost would move you to repentance. The message is simple - the Christian religion should teach today the same things that were taught hundreds of years ago in this country. Why should things be updated?
The catechism of the BCP - I nearly wrote BNP by accident!! - plainly states the Christian religion. Anything beyond that is wrong. Please read and take it to the Lord in prayer.
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He may have spoken in foreign, but our own church has spoken to we Anglo Saxons in our own Nordic tongue and the KJV is the greatest gift the CofE has made to the English nation.
There's something quite odd about the grammar and punctuation of this sentence. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Originally posted by Anglican2009:
The message is simple - the Christian religion should teach today the same things that were taught hundreds of years ago in this country. Why should things be updated?
Because for hundreds of years the Christian religion has been teaching falsehoods that did damage to the people upon which they were imposed?
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Dearly beloved brethren,
I have posted here to point out some things to you all and urge you to repentance. The CoE should teach the same things it has always taught. Some of you, at the urging of the Devil, have mocked me for being Anglican1009, but what difference should there be between the teaching of Ecclesia Anglicana in AD 1009 and today? None at all, I should hope.
Please study the catechism of the BCP prayerfully and everything will become clear. Put away the Phariseeism general on this site and approach the Lord in sincere prayer.
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what difference should there be between the teaching of Ecclesia Anglicana in AD 1009 and today? None at all, I should hope.
Please study the catechism of the BCP prayerfully and everything will become clear.
The very first BCP was published in 1549, after a fairly major bit of theological revision called the Reformation.
So I guess the only question is, if you're so keen on keeping things the same from way way back to now, why are you idolising such a modern heretical upstart of a book?
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I don't think much of this troll. it's too stupid to be interesting and it lacks any other qualities that might make it amusing. ![[Snore]](graemlins/snore.gif)
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Originally posted by Nicolemrw:
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He may have spoken in foreign, but our own church has spoken to we Anglo Saxons in our own Nordic tongue and the KJV is the greatest gift the CofE has made to the English nation.
There's something quite odd about the grammar and punctuation of this sentence.
It's that Nordic tongue of his, makes things terribly confusing...
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But aren't you thrilled that we have gone from "Ship-of-Twits" to "beloved brethren"? It's just so beautiful when repentance happens.
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Some of you, at the urging of the Devil, have mocked me for being Anglican1009
Damn. I thought I had gotten most of the-devil-is-behind-everyone-who-disagrees-with-me types out of the Anglican communion.
So, Anglican2009, what would the church have to do to convince you to leave? I'm sure someone's got some raisin cakes stashed somewhere.
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Originally posted by Nicolemrw:
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He may have spoken in foreign, but our own church has spoken to we Anglo Saxons in our own Nordic tongue and the KJV is the greatest gift the CofE has made to the English nation.
There's something quite odd about the grammar and punctuation of this sentence.
I fear it is not altogether spoken in a language understanded of the people.
Sorry Anglican-anus: petards are so unpleasant.
Goodbye and thanks for the memories. I'm sure the BNP - oops I meant to type BCP - will enjoy your full attention once again. Look out for pieces of twisted metal on your journeys.
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Originally posted by Anglican2009:
Our own church has spoken to we Anglo Saxons in our own Nordic tongue and the KJV is the greatest gift the CofE has made to the English nation.
Nordic tongue? If you're reading a Scandinavian translation that might be the problem. Hint: Find a Bible written in English - you might find it helps your comprehension.
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