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Hawk

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quote:
Originally posted by Anglican2009:
Please study the catechism of the BCP prayerfully and everything will become clear.

I've had a look but I can't find anything there about enslaving people or persecuting Muslims. I've probably just missed it - perhaps it's only in the Nordic version. Could you help and point it out for me please?

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On that thing about the King James version being the CofE's greatest gift to English, wasn't it commissioned by King James (obviously)? Who was a teensy weensy little bit catholic, no? (and also a homosexual, which I would have thought wouldn't endear him over much to trollie)

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quote:
Originally posted by Anglican2009:
Can I make a basic point? Jesus was not an Englishman. He may have spoken in foreign, but our own church has spoken to we Anglo Saxons in our own Nordic tongue and the KJV is the greatest gift the CofE has made to the English nation.

Hang on. It's been a while since I did linguistics, but isn't Anglo-Saxon a Germanic language, and not Nordic?

[ 10. September 2009, 21:06: Message edited by: rosamundi ]

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rosamundi

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quote:
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Hang on. It's been a while since I did linguistics, but isn't Anglo-Saxon a Germanic language, and not Nordic?

Anglican2009, I hate you. You made me go and look things up and I dropped one of my dictionaries on my foot.

Anglo-Saxon and Nordic are both Germanic languages/language groups (because the Nordic group contains Icelandic, Faroese, Norn, Norwegian, Danish, Swedish and Elfdalian*) but Nordic is North Germanic and Anglo-Saxon is West Germanic and closely related to Old Frisian.

So they're related but not the same.

*brilliant. I want to learn it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Anglican2009:
He may have spoken in foreign, but our own church has spoken to we Anglo Saxons in our own Nordic tongue

To quote the Lone Ranger's sidekick, Tonto, "Whaddya mean 'we', white boy?"

And on a similar note, today the Episcopal Church celebrates the life and witness of the Blessed Alexander Crummell, priest, missionary, educator.

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Am I the only one who thinks this guy is kind of funny? He's clearly got some model in mind that he is parodying.

My theory is that he's Simon and that this is some really elaborate set up. Has anyone ever seen Simon and Anglican2009 photographed together?

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quote:
Originally posted by Hawk:
Hint: Find a Bible written in English - you might find it helps your comprehension.

Sorry, Hawk, but there's a presupposition there ...

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quote:
Originally posted by Anglican2009:
Can I make a basic point? Jesus was not an Englishman. He may have spoken in foreign,...

may have? I didn't realize there was any doubt about that.
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... but our own church has spoken to we Anglo Saxons in our own Nordic tongue and the KJV is the greatest gift the CofE has made to the English nation.
Anglo Saxon is a West Germanic language. The Nordic languages are North Germanic.

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Anglican2009
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quote:
Originally posted by Hawk:
quote:
Originally posted by Anglican2009:
Please study the catechism of the BCP prayerfully and everything will become clear.

I've had a look but I can't find anything there about enslaving people or persecuting Muslims. I've probably just missed it - perhaps it's only in the Nordic version. Could you help and point it out for me please?
You've been looking for the wrong thing. Who said we have to enslave people and persecute people? All I said is that the Bible urges Christians to accept social inequality and show Christian love to mollify any unequal arrangements. The Bible doesn't positively urge maximum inequality. But it does not counsel revolution either. You will always have the poor with you. No, we shouldn't persecute Muslims. But you are leaping directly from my support for a new immigration policy, preventing Muslims from immigrating to Britain, to claims that this amounts to persecution. We must keep our own culture, and that includes keeping England Christian, and specifically Anglican, and this is not persecution at all.

God confused the tongues at Babel. Who are you to try to reverse the dispersion of the nations instituted then?

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Anglican2009
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The catechism is still the official doctrine of the CofE and can be consulted at http://www.eskimo.com/~lhowell/bcp1662/baptism/catchism.html

The most important part is:


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WHAT dost thou chiefly learn by these Commandments?
Answer. I learn two things: my duty towards God, and my duty towards my Neighbour.
Question. What is thy duty towards God?
Answer. My duty towards God, is to believe in him, to fear him, and to love him with all my heart, with all my mind, with all my soul, and with all my strength; to worship him, to give him thanks, to put my whole trust in him, to call upon him, to honour his holy Name and his Word, and to serve him truly all the days of my life.
Question. What is thy duty towards thy Neighbour?
Answer. My duty towards my Neighbour, is to love him as myself, and to do to all men, as I would they should do unto me: To love, honour, and succour my father and mother: To honour and obey the Queen, and all that are put in authority under her: To submit myself to all my governors, teachers, spiritual pastors and masters: To order myself lowly and reverently to all my betters: To hurt no body by word nor deed: To be true and just in all my dealing: To bear no malice nor hatred in my heart: To keep my hands from picking and stealing, and my tongue from evilspeaking, lying, and slandering: To keep my body in temperance, soberness, and chastity: Not to covet nor desire other men's goods; but to learn and labour truly to get mine own living, and to do my duty in that state of life, unto which it shall please God to call me.


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quote:
Originally posted by lady in red:
On that thing about the King James version being the CofE's greatest gift to English, wasn't it commissioned by King James (obviously)? Who was a teensy weensy little bit catholic, no? (and also a homosexual, which I would have thought wouldn't endear him over much to trollie)

And Scottish, if I remember correctly.

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Zappa
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quote:
Originally posted by Anglican2009:
To hurt no body by word nor deed: To be true and just in all my dealing:

"deed ... dealing", of course, not including social injustices, which are a good and godly thing, and make the baby Jesus dance a tarantella

[ 11. September 2009, 00:34: Message edited by: Zappa ]

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I thought King James wrote the Bible on his journey south from Scotland - my illusions are shattered!

Anyway, so much for this de temps en temps idea, it seems that the nutters are always with us. When do you think the CPN* will be round to give him his medication?

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quote:
Originally posted by Anglican2009:
WHAT dost thou chiefly learn by these Commandments?

Well, Commandment 8 is touchy on the subject of Crusaders, particularly Crusader Trolls. That's why you're banned now.

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Zappa
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Ah ... another chapter dribbles into history.

Or would-be chapter?

Dribble, anyway.

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quote:
Originally posted by Anglican2009:
quote:
Originally posted by Hawk:
quote:
Originally posted by Anglican2009:
Please study the catechism of the BCP prayerfully and everything will become clear.

I've had a look but I can't find anything there about enslaving people or persecuting Muslims. I've probably just missed it - perhaps it's only in the Nordic version. Could you help and point it out for me please?
You've been looking for the wrong thing. Who said we have to enslave people and persecute people? All I said is that the Bible urges Christians to accept social inequality and show Christian love to mollify any unequal arrangements. The Bible doesn't positively urge maximum inequality. But it does not counsel revolution either. You will always have the poor with you. No, we shouldn't persecute Muslims. But you are leaping directly from my support for a new immigration policy, preventing Muslims from immigrating to Britain, to claims that this amounts to persecution. We must keep our own culture, and that includes keeping England Christian, and specifically Anglican, and this is not persecution at all.

God confused the tongues at Babel. Who are you to try to reverse the dispersion of the nations instituted then?

If Christianity is all about accepting the status quo and endorsing inequality and injustice, why did Jesus get crucified? If Our Lord simply said "Yeah, Rome is ok" why would the Romans execute him?

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um... AB? he's unlikely to answer.

Move along, dorkfaces, nothing to see here.

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