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Thread: Purgatory: "SPCK" bookshops
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J Whitgift
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Originally posted by Lilly Rose:
Leo,
I'm wondering if there's a typo in your post, as it doesn't quite make sense.
You say 'Wesley Owen ........ are not stocking a wider variety of authors'
Should that read 'now' instead of 'not'? so that it says 'Wesley Owen ........ are now stocking a wider variety of authors'?
I serverly doubt that Wesley Owen are stocking a good selection of academic theology. I rather suspect, however, that the situation is as fingerdoughnut described it:
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At Spring Harvest this year WO's so-called 'theology section' contained Benny Hinn and TD Jakes ![[brick wall]](graemlins/brick_wall.gif)
The loss of SPCK was a serious blow and WO hardly fills the gap! My local branch seems to concentrate far more of Christian self-help books and copies of the KJV.
Living in London I am lucky enough to have Church House Bookshop and Harchards/Mowbray's in easy reach. However, the latter has become little more than an extended 'Mind/Body/Spirit' section of the store. SPCK also did academic theology and secondhand books, both of which are lacking in CHBp & Harchards/Mowbray's. ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
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Dafyd
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Originally posted by J Whitgift:
Living in London I am lucky enough to have Church House Bookshop and Harchards/Mowbray's in easy reach. However, the latter has become little more than an extended 'Mind/Body/Spirit' section of the store.
That's a bit unfair to Hatchard's/Mowbray's. I agree that it's not what it was in its glory days. In particular, it has much less (nearly no) space for semi-popular theology - The Christlike God level of Christian publishing. But I went in looking for the nominees for the latest Michael Ramsey Prize and they were all there, even though there was little or no attempt being made to promote them.
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leo
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Originally posted by J Whitgift:
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Originally posted by Lilly Rose:
Leo,
I'm wondering if there's a typo in your post, as it doesn't quite make sense.
You say 'Wesley Owen ........ are not stocking a wider variety of authors'
Should that read 'now' instead of 'not'? so that it says 'Wesley Owen ........ are now stocking a wider variety of authors'?
I serverly doubt that Wesley Owen are stocking a good selection of academic theology. I rather suspect, however, that the situation is as fingerdoughnut described it
Whoops - 'not' should read 'now'. However,I think it depends where you are. Several of us have been pushing our local branch and have succeeded.
The wider range of stock means it isn't all evangelical - there are books by Breuggeman, Wink and Countryman, for example.
I would not expect them to stock 'heavy' academic theology' as the university bookshop is nearby and carries stock on the booklists of the Theology Department.
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Lilly Rose
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All Christian bookshops will have restrictions of size and budget and so can't stock everything, but the independants should be able to get anything that's in print if it's ordered.
Does anyone know if Wesley Owen can get special orders for customers or are they tied in to central buying?
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The Midge
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Originally posted by Lilly Rose:
All Christian bookshops will have restrictions of size and budget and so can't stock everything, but the independants should be able to get anything that's in print if it's ordered.
Does anyone know if Wesley Owen can get special orders for customers or are they tied in to central buying?
I know that St Andrew's Book Shops will special order.
I am blessed with having access to Blackwells in Oxford. They have a real accademic section and second hand books in the attic. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Loveheart
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I've been told Wesley Owen Cambridge will do special orders, but I've not tried it myself...
(edited to correct typo)
[ 16. August 2009, 06:05: Message edited by: Loveheart ]
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Jengie jon
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Any bookshop will do special orders. If they get a lot of special orders in a particular area they may well start stocking some related books.
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pete173
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Originally posted by fingerdoughnut:
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Originally posted by leo:
Our local branch as a sort of hardcore theology section at the back.
Ha! At Spring Harvest this year WO's so-called 'theology section' contained Benny Hinn and TD Jakes
Yeah, I spent my time wandering through the bookstall attempting to hide the more nutty ones...
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Metapelagius
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Originally posted by Loveheart:
I've been told Wesley Owen Cambridge will do special orders, but I've not tried it myself...
(edited to correct typo)
You may have noted, too, that the very helpful lady who was at the SPCK shop in Cambridge for many years is now working down the road at Wesley Owen, and will doubtless have brought a good deal of expertise with her.
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Loveheart
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Originally posted by Metapelagius:
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Originally posted by Loveheart:
I've been told Wesley Owen Cambridge will do special orders, but I've not tried it myself...
(edited to correct typo)
You may have noted, too, that the very helpful lady who was at the SPCK shop in Cambridge for many years is now working down the road at Wesley Owen, and will doubtless have brought a good deal of expertise with her.
Yes, I had heard that too, and very glad I am to hear it, she is lovely!
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fingerdoughnut
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Originally posted by pete173:
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Originally posted by fingerdoughnut:
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Originally posted by leo:
Our local branch as a sort of hardcore theology section at the back.
Ha! At Spring Harvest this year WO's so-called 'theology section' contained Benny Hinn and TD Jakes
Yeah, I spent my time wandering through the bookstall attempting to hide the more nutty ones...
Crikey Pete173, in your position couldn't you have done a bit better than that? You know - whip of cords, overturn their tables, scatter the money from their tills... ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Custard
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In Chester, the former SPCK shop (deserted) has a poster in the window from the former manager telling people to go to Wesley Owen round the corner because he's the manager there now.
Wesley Owen are owned by International Bible Society. Most of their shops seem to roughly follow market pressures - they'll stock what people want to buy and order anything within reason. Some of the managers (including my local one) seem to exercise a good deal of discernment and avoid most of the wackier stuff. But sadly not all...
If you want a shop that stocks the reading list for a university course, try a university bookshop.
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Rosa Winkel
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Originally posted by Custard.:
In Chester, the former SPCK shop (deserted) has a poster in the window from the former manager telling people to go to Wesley Owen round the corner because he's the manager there now.
Very interesting. He's a good lad.
I was in the SPCK in Chester last time I was in Chester and a young lad was the new manager, who told me that all the former staff had gone to a new shop in town.
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Yerevan
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I am blessed with having access to Blackwells in Oxford.
Blackwells theology section ![[Axe murder]](graemlins/lovedrops.gif)
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leo
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Posted
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Originally posted by fingerdoughnut:
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Originally posted by pete173:
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Originally posted by fingerdoughnut:
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Originally posted by leo:
Our local branch as a sort of hardcore theology section at the back.
Ha! At Spring Harvest this year WO's so-called 'theology section' contained Benny Hinn and TD Jakes
Yeah, I spent my time wandering through the bookstall attempting to hide the more nutty ones...
Crikey Pete173, in your position couldn't you have done a bit better than that? You know - whip of cords, overturn their tables, scatter the money from their tills...
Careful - remember he is C of E. In our church, we have to have several committees to discuss this sort of action.
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Jengie jon
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Originally posted by leo:
Careful - remember he is C of E. In our church, we have to have several committees to discuss this sort of action.
Now just stop pretending to be Reformed. Anglican's have still a lot to learn about committees from us. After all we call our "bishops" chairperson for a reason. "Moderator" is the Presbyterian term for a chairperson. Yes, when we are being technically correct "one addresses the moderator" even if the person chairing is the local minister or even an elder.
Jengie
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fingerdoughnut
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Posted
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Originally posted by leo:
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Originally posted by fingerdoughnut:
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Originally posted by pete173:
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Originally posted by fingerdoughnut:
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Originally posted by leo:
Our local branch as a sort of hardcore theology section at the back.
Ha! At Spring Harvest this year WO's so-called 'theology section' contained Benny Hinn and TD Jakes
Yeah, I spent my time wandering through the bookstall attempting to hide the more nutty ones...
Crikey Pete173, in your position couldn't you have done a bit better than that? You know - whip of cords, overturn their tables, scatter the money from their tills...
Careful - remember he is C of E. In our church, we have to have several committees to discuss this sort of action.
Oh, I see, that explains it. Sorry about that, I'm new to all this Anglicanism thing. Still, there's always next year! Will that be long enough for him to pass a motion? So to speak.
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cynic girl
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Originally posted by pete173:
Yeah, I spent my time wandering through the bookstall attempting to hide the more nutty ones...
Almost as radical as a certain group of younger non-heterosexual Christians, who put cards advertising their organization in the "turn from thy perversions and become an pure, redeemed married person" type books on the bookstalls at New Wine et cetera...
(We have a lot of fun trying to accomplish this quickly, while the bookstall owners are otherwise occupied. Haven't been caught yet.)
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Jack o' the Green
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Originally posted by Custard.:
In Chester, the former SPCK shop (deserted)
Possibly the saddest sentence I've ever read on the Ship. I loved that shop. It had a wonderful second hand section upstairs. You could browse in there for hours and find the most amazing treasure.
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Mr Clingford:
Sacked workers win payout but will they actually get any of this money?
According to the Church Times they will:
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Staff sacked from the former SPCK bookshops are receiving their first compensation payments. They will each receive 65 per cent of the agreed amount by the end of the month, and the remainder within six months.
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lowlands_boy
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Mr Clingford:
Sacked workers win payout but will they actually get any of this money?
According to the Church Times they will:
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Staff sacked from the former SPCK bookshops are receiving their first compensation payments. They will each receive 65 per cent of the agreed amount by the end of the month, and the remainder within six months.
The local Chester weekly, the Chester Chronicle, also reports the staff as getting their compensation, in this story
In the printed edition, they can't seem to make up their mind if the quoted lady is called "Heather Blathers" as per the comment, or "Heather Leather", in the photograph.
Anyway, good luck to them all.
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Manipled Mutineer
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Originally posted by Angus McDangley:
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Originally posted by Custard.:
In Chester, the former SPCK shop (deserted)
Possibly the saddest sentence I've ever read on the Ship. I loved that shop. It had a wonderful second hand section upstairs. You could browse in there for hours and find the most amazing treasure.
Indeed; I was only fortunate to visit the shop tice (I was in Chester with mt wife's choir for a weekend of singing), but I was astounded by the richness of what was on offer. I left with a couple of bags full of interesting books by the time I had finished. How I managed to get them past my daughter, whom my wife had sent with me with instructions not to let me acquire too many books, I will never know. A great sadness that it has gone, as with the other shops. I'm just thankful that the Cardiff branch has been the subject of a friendly takeover and is still going strong.
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daisymay
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Yes, that second-hand availablity of books was very interesting, and had excellent books; the SPCK shop in Marylebone closed down a while ago and had a huge area of them, as well as their variety of "new" books. I've missed that bookshop... I think my son's big Bible book with Hebrew, Greek and English in lines together is still around my home. It was such a big book that it had the cover getting detached - very much cheaper than buying it "new".
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