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I don't know how many people here have played lateral thinking games before but the idea is that one person gives a cryptic statement and the the others ask yes or no questions to try to figure out what is going on.

Perhaps if this thread goes on very long, the person who solves the puzzle would like to start a new thread for the next puzzle? Otherwise these can get hard to join, but I'll leave that up to the hosts.

So, come ask questions to figure out what's going on. Anyone can ask questions and I'll try to check in regularly to answer them.

She said "Murderer!" So, he started to arrive to class on time.

[ 21. February 2010, 07:18: Message edited by: Alan Cresswell ]

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Had he been killing time?
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2. Was she his teacher?

3. Was she his mother?

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quote:
Originally posted by Della:
Had he been killing time?

Nice! But no, not literally at least.

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It was a language class, he'd missed the bit on pronunciation and was murdering the language, so turned up on time the next week and started to get it right?
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quote:
Originally posted by Dal Segno:
2. Was she his teacher?

3. Was she his mother?

No and no.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
It was a language class, he'd missed the bit on pronunciation and was murdering the language, so turned up on time the next week and started to get it right?

That's delightful -- and quite probably better than my solution.

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Was he the murderer?

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Was 'she' an alarm clock?

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quote:
Originally posted by Bullfrog.:
Was he the murderer?

No!

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quote:
Originally posted by EtymologicalEvangelical:
Was 'she' an alarm clock?

I like it, but no. They are both humans.

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Did he hear her correctly?
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Were he and she classmates?

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Was she accusing someone of having committed murder?

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quote:
Originally posted by wilson:
Did he hear her correctly?

Yes.

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Was the shout "Murderer!" exclaimed in the context of an actual murder attempt?

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quote:
Originally posted by EtymologicalEvangelical:
Were he and she classmates?

Not relevantly so.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dafyd:
Was she accusing someone of having committed murder?

No! (good question)

(And thus, Bullfrog, the answer to yours is also no.)

[ 06. February 2010, 03:44: Message edited by: Gwai ]

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Did the statement "Murderer!" occur in a classroom?

If so...

Were the students in this class under the age of 18?

[ 06. February 2010, 03:48: Message edited by: Bullfrog. ]

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Was she answering a question?

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Is Drama (as a subject) involved?

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Was the word "murderer!" a cue in a drama?

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Had she just witnessed the death metal band Murderer play a private gig in the first lesson of the day at school, and he thought that there might be further death metal bands lined up for further private gigs in the first lesson of the day at school on subsequent days?

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Sorry, let me just rewrite my last question a bit more clearly:

Was the word "murderer!" a cue in a drama for him to arrive to class on time (in other words, the 'class' was a scene in the drama)?

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... and let me guess again if that's OK

Was this some bizarre parallel gothic universe where all the eponymous clocks are called not "cuckoo" clocks and have little birds in that pop out and warble on the hour, but "Murderer" clocks and have little figures of Lizzie Borden's mother in that pop out and accuse their offspring of matricide?

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Okay, I've been trying to post in separate posts to save people back reading to see what I'm referring to, but I have to run and don't have time to fight the flood monitor, so starting with Bullfrog:

No, and to answer your other question, only slightly relevantly yes

No

No

Lol, MTB, but no

That's clearer, but still no

And again, LOL but no.

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Did she blurt it out while reading the newspaper,and did he overhear her and ask for an explanation?

And was the article about s young man who had dropped out of school, and being unable to find a job with no skills, turned to crime and bad that same young man killed someone during a robbery and did he (the student) resolve then and there to get to school on time, and buckle down snd study in order to avoid that same sad fate?

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Were he and she playing a game?

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quote:
Originally posted by Nunzia:
Did she blurt it out while reading the newspaper,and did he overhear her and ask for an explanation?

And was the article about s young man who had dropped out of school, and being unable to find a job with no skills, turned to crime and bad that same young man killed someone during a robbery and did he (the student) resolve then and there to get to school on time, and buckle down snd study in order to avoid that same sad fate?

Good thought but no and no.

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quote:
Originally posted by EtymologicalEvangelical:
Were he and she playing a game?

no

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Did the formerly-tardy individual still live with his or her parents at the time of the question?

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No, and that is quite relevant.

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Was the word "Murderer" said by a judge to a young delinquent before pronouncing his sentence to a Young Offender's Institute, which then meant that he was taken to classes from his cell - i.e. unable to be late any more?

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Visiting parents, boy dropped in to pub for a couple of pints on the way. Lunch is ruined.

"Murderer!" Yells mum. "I know, you. I could murder a pint you say. Only you murdered half a dozen - and your parents' day".

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He used to dawdle to school by himself and arrive late, whereas all the other students would either walk together or ride together on the bus and therefore arrive on time. But one day he heard the news that a convict had escaped from the local prison. He found out about this from his sister who was watching this on the TV news in another room at home, and he overhead her shout in disgust "murderer!" Apparently this escaped convict had killed a child who had been walking by himself to school. Fearing that this convict 'on the loose' would attack him while he dawdled to school late, the lazy student decided from then on to travel to school on time with the other students. Is this right?

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Just to warn everyone, this isn't something that one person will be able to solve alone. It'll take quite a few questions before someone will be in a place that they can solve. (Comment not directed at anyone in particular.)

quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
Was the word "Murderer" said by a judge to a young delinquent before pronouncing his sentence to a Young Offender's Institute, which then meant that he was taken to classes from his cell - i.e. unable to be late any more?

I like that reason for non-tardiness, but no.

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quote:
Originally posted by pimple:
Visiting parents, boy dropped in to pub for a couple of pints on the way. Lunch is ruined.

"Murderer!" Yells mum. "I know, you. I could murder a pint you say. Only you murdered half a dozen - and your parents' day".

?

There are metaphors in this, but not that one.

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quote:
Originally posted by EtymologicalEvangelical:
He used to dawdle to school by himself and arrive late,

mostly true
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whereas all the other students would either walk together or ride together on the bus and therefore arrive on time. But one day he heard the news that a convict had escaped from the local prison. He found out about this from his sister who was watching this on the TV news in another room at home, and he overhead her shout in disgust "murderer!" Apparently this escaped convict had killed a child who had been walking by himself to school. Fearing that this convict 'on the loose' would attack him while he dawdled to school late, the lazy student decided from then on to travel to school on time with the other students. Is this right?
No to the rest.

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Is he a teacher?

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No, so to save anyone having to ask, I will add that he is a student.

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Did he ask his teacher whether she had any previous convictions, and when she found out she was a murderer, he decided he'd better not mess her around any more?

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This is a bit of a crazy question, but...

Was his name actually "Murderer"?

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Did his parents start bringing him to school?

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..and/or was "murderer" a word in a spelling bee?

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quote:
Originally posted by Smudgie:
Did he ask his teacher whether she had any previous convictions, and when she found out she was a murderer, he decided he'd better not mess her around any more?

No

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quote:
Originally posted by EtymologicalEvangelical:
This is a bit of a crazy question, but...

Was his name actually "Murderer"?

No, but not a crazy question at all. Lateral thinking puzzles love to pull dirty tricks. But no, no one is named murderer this time.

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quote:
Originally posted by Nunzia:
Did his parents start bringing him to school?

No and a bit of a false assumption

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Originally posted by Nunzia:..and/or was "murderer" a word in a spelling bee?[/QB]
no

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OK, one more and I'll let someone else play..

Is he a human being?

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Yes, he is. (Don't feel you have to quit. This is rather a team game.)

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A mate of the wind and sea.
If they think they ha’ slain our Goodly Fere
They are fools eternally.


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Smudgie

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Is the class in question a school class? A university class? Not an education type class at all? (I'm British, remember, so at a natural disadvantage! [Biased] )

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Miss you, Erin.

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