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quote:
Originally posted by Hart:
Wouldn't the Annunciation count as Jesus'?

Yes - but Jesus is not a 'saint'.

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quote:
Originally posted by leo:
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Originally posted by SeraphimSarov:
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Originally posted by New Yorker:
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Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
It must be so difficult to be an Anglican, where you constantly have to decide what you believe before you can say a prayer. [Devil]

I thought that such were the Unitarians? Or are they the ones who get all bent out of shape over the wording in hymns? Or both?
the inclusive language crowd? You get them in every church except .........the Orthodox Church , thanks be to GOD
[Two face]

I bet that the orthodox will have inclusive language some time after the next one thousand years have elapsed.
nah, we will still be there when all the others look back and wonder how silly they all were for adopting it. [Smile]

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Time will tell - there are moved to clean up the anti-Judaism in the Orthodox Holy Week rites. The have already done it in an Orthodox church near me and there is a series of essays about it written by fairly eminent Orthodox liturgists

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quote:
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Time will tell - there are moved to clean up the anti-Judaism in the Orthodox Holy Week rites. The have already done it in an Orthodox church near me and there is a series of essays about it written by fairly eminent Orthodox liturgists

Indeed, but this is a move WITHIN Orthodoxy and not because they are being told to do it by some meddling Anglicans [Smile]

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So is there a video of it?

*cough*

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quote:
Originally posted by Ecclesiastical Flip-flop:
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Originally posted by LQ:
In some places, "Conception" is retained, but without the I-word.

The Conception - immaculate or otherwise - of the BVM is obviously unique and very special, as no other saint has his or her conception commemorated in the Church Kalendar.
Doesn't the Eastern Rite include a feast for the Conception of John the Baptist?

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Sorry to continue the tangent a bit but the Melkites do observe the feast of the Conception of St. John the Baptist on September 23. I imagine it's on the same or a similar date for other churches of the Byzantine Rite.

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TROPARION (TONE 4)
Joy to you, O barren one unable to give birth! Behold, you conceive today the one who is really a Torch of the Sun, who will enlighten the whole world that suffered from blindness. Rejoice, O Zachary, and cry out in all confidence: "The One who will be born is a Prophet of the Most High!".

From a Melkite page on St. John the Baptist.

[ 09. June 2008, 00:05: Message edited by: Pancho ]

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The Liturgy of the notices


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That's a brilliant clip - I have just sent the link to quite a few people in my church who get up and make notices (open mike) and prolong the service by 10-15 minutes!

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quote:
Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
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Originally posted by Ecclesiastical Flip-flop:
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Originally posted by LQ:
In some places, "Conception" is retained, but without the I-word.

The Conception - immaculate or otherwise - of the BVM is obviously unique and very special, as no other saint has his or her conception commemorated in the Church Kalendar.
Doesn't the Eastern Rite include a feast for the Conception of John the Baptist?
Not being part of the Eastern Rite myself, I have learnt something there.

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Originally posted by leo:
That's a brilliant clip - I have just sent the link to quite a few people in my church who get up and make notices (open mike) and prolong the service by 10-15 minutes!

We have a guy who always has something to say at the announcements (local councillor) and e just manages to drone on and on! Our priest has caught on that I find the whole thing incredibly boring and now refers to him as "our political correspondent)

I often sit in the organ loft doing all kinds of mimes (my favourite is pretending to hang myself from the swellbox), our priest has noticed I do that and often starts giggling as we get into our 20th minute of announcements from him!


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Fantabulous!

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Once I got over the feeling that I was listening to Paul Robeson celebrate the Divine Liturgy, I found it pretty cool. I must say, however, that the altar servers seemed less than awestruck.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hooker's Trick:
Does anyone know anything about St John's Detroit? Here they are singing Mattins -- and are the ladies of teh choir wearing black beanies?

I thought the omission of the second set of preces was a 1979 thing. In any event, it's unfortunate.

Interesting that they splice the first part of the Venite with part of Psalm 96.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Hooker's Trick:
Does anyone know anything about St John's Detroit? Here they are singing Mattins -- and are the ladies of teh choir wearing black beanies?

I thought the omission of the second set of preces was a 1979 thing. In any event, it's unfortunate.

Interesting that they splice the first part of the Venite with part of Psalm 96.

Both points are by-the-book 1928 USA BCP. They're doing what the BCP says.
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A storefront Baptist minister who definitely belongs in the fruitcake zone preaches against Little House on The Prairie. I'm guessing that the show may have been cancelled before he was born, but...oh well.

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A storefront Baptist minister who definitely belongs in the fruitcake zone preaches against Little House on The Prairie. I'm guessing that the show may have been cancelled before he was born, but...oh well.

Oh dear! The first generation of preacher raised in the Age of Televangelists. If I had to go to church every week and listen to a bully judge some people, make fun of others, and kick the pulpit repeatedly, I would break out in laughter that would be so painful that they would have to carry me away in a stretcher.
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Sorry for the double post, but I can't resist suggesting this one to my fellow Shippies and lurkers:

The Ascension and Mary Poppins

It is another V-log from Father Matthew, who is quite often hilarious. Watch out for a brief glimpse of Screech Powers from Saved by the Bell!

Also, if you like this video, follow it to Father Matthew's other good videos.

[ 24. June 2008, 02:46: Message edited by: Martin L ]

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Thank you for the kind comments about St. John's Church, Detroit. We have certainly moved "up the candle" since 2001. The first 70 years St. John's was Prayer Book Catholic. The next 70 it was low Church, and now, D.v., we have entered a better 70. God has blessed the parish since 2001 with a good increase: 50 to 200+ people on Sunday...a good start (the Church seats 800).

As for the Benediction comments. The service is straight St. Augustine's Prayer Book. We have Benediction monthly on Thursdays (weekly in Lent). Sorry to the commentor who said it was anti-climatic: The bells ended up near the altar, not the rail, and therefore could not be rung.

Ironically, the most viewed video I have posted to date has not been liturgical or even a parish social event, but about the Stanley Cup Parade (Professional hockey league championship) which passed in front of the Church recently!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge54_i7FWYk

Other videos can be referenced here
http://www.youtube.com/user/StJohnsPriest

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Father Kelly: Keep up the good work and . . .

"Let's Go Red Wings!"

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quote:
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Other videos can be referenced here
http://www.youtube.com/user/StJohnsPriest

[Confused] When I click on the link I get a picture that looks like the Transporter on the Starship Enterprize malfunctioned?!

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If I'm ever in Windsor, I'll have way too many choices. St John's, Zion, the Mariners' Church...
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quote:
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If I'm ever in Windsor, I'll have way too many choices. St John's, Zion, the Mariners' Church...

Redeemer, Southfield as well.
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I've never been for a service, but I imagine Eton College Chapel would be worth a visit as well, if only for 'name value'.

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Oh yeah!

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How does Max find time to write essays?

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Max is on Holiday at the moment in lovely sunny Somerset!

Max also doesn't sleep very much.


Thank you.

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Now that one I like, Max!

[ 29. June 2008, 18:25: Message edited by: jlg ]

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Oh yeah!

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quote:
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Max also doesn't sleep very much.

Max.

For some unaccountable reason I am suddenly and powerfully reminded of the late Edward Gorey's 'Beastly Baby', of whom he wrote; "Its tiny eyes were surrounded by large black rings due to fatigue, for its guilty conscience hardly ever allowed it to sleep"... [Snigger]

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this here yet.

It certainly shows how Things Should Be Done Properly!

Apart from the fact that its SSPX, I do have reservations about the militaristic choreography, although its fun in places, and those vestments make me expect the arrival of the Red Queen demanding heads to roll, at any moment.

And that curious Gregorian version of Ode to Joy for the Kyrie..... [Projectile]

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There's also this (which I think has been linked to before). The army of apparently decorative little boys in surplices frightens me a little.

If anyone can identify the setting of the Asperges, I'd appreciate it. A friend has been bugging Cyprian and me about it.

Pity that they have a Missa Cantata on Sundays, which should only be used in case of a necessity that I doubt St Nicholas of Chardonne experiences.

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The kyrie is from the 'missa Pater cuncta' (Mass XII, for semidoubles in the kyriale.) I've always liked it. The vestments are horrible, but the voluntary at the beginning is amazing, I'd love to get the name of it.
The Asperges is just the Gregorian setting,on the first page of the kyriale.

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I thought the liturgy at St Nicholas du Chardonnet was superb in every way, with the exception of the decorative little altar boys who did nothing other than look angelic in a snot-nosed way. (Unfortunately, my own parish does this too, but not to the extreme that the SSPX parish does). There was also, surprisingly, somewhat less self-conscious "Catholic Amish" attitudes in the pews where all modern styles of dress are rejected in favor of clothes that look like that worn by polygamous Mormons. I see this sort of thing ALL THE TIME in Tridentine masses in the United States, and it is quite absurd.

LQ, I'm very surprised you didn't recognize the Asperges, since it is the standard one.

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I have to admit that I can count on one hand the Masses I've been to where the people were sprinkled - and all have been in Eastertide.
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If you like the asperges, LQ, you'll have to come to England and visit my usual place of worship, where we have them every Sunday.

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quote:
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this here yet.

It certainly shows how Things Should Be Done Properly!

Apart from the fact that its SSPX, I do have reservations about the militaristic choreography, although its fun in places, and those vestments make me expect the arrival of the Red Queen demanding heads to roll, at any moment.


What I liked was the description, which pointed to some of the ceremonial as being "local custom"!

[Killing me]

However, the chief prosecutor of those guilty of "local custom" hasn't been round these parts for a while, so the joke is not as sweet.

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I don't seem (apologies if I'm mistaken) to have posted this, which a friend and I have dubbed the "Hail Holy Drag Queen."
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Low Treason:
this here yet.

It certainly shows how Things Should Be Done Properly!

Apart from the fact that its SSPX, I do have reservations about the militaristic choreography, although its fun in places, and those vestments make me expect the arrival of the Red Queen demanding heads to roll, at any moment.


What I liked was the description, which pointed to some of the ceremonial as being "local custom"!

[Killing me]

However, the chief prosecutor of those guilty of "local custom" hasn't been round these parts for a while, so the joke is not as sweet.

Ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Paranoid]

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
What I liked was the description, which pointed to some of the ceremonial as being "local custom"!

[Killing me]

However, the chief prosecutor of those guilty of "local custom" hasn't been round these parts for a while, so the joke is not as sweet.

Ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Paranoid]
It's ok as long as you don't say his name five times.
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Not sure if this has been posted, but there is the controversial and grotesque Vatican Fashion Show from Fellini's Roma.

Dedicated to the bloggers of The New Liturgical Movement blog, one of whom makes a cameo at 5:25.

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Charismatic Catholic History
(lots of videos of papal masses too!)


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Funky Songs of Praise


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Loved the spelling on that one.
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It appears the live video webcast feed at Washington National Cathedral has been left open today. I will be curious to see if we can hear Evensong from the Great Choir in about an hour and forty-five minutes.
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Originally posted by Martin L:
It appears the live video webcast feed at Washington National Cathedral has been left open today. I will be curious to see if we can hear Evensong from the Great Choir in about an hour and forty-five minutes.

Oooh. It's about an hour and ten until Evensong, and a choir is practicing where the Nave Altar usually stands.
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Originally posted by Martin L:
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Originally posted by Martin L:
It appears the live video webcast feed at Washington National Cathedral has been left open today. I will be curious to see if we can hear Evensong from the Great Choir in about an hour and forty-five minutes.

Oooh. It's about an hour and ten until Evensong, and a choir is practicing where the Nave Altar usually stands.
Houston, we have Sung Evening Prayer.

I wonder if we'll get to see the cleaners do the sweeping later.

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Our current household problems with ISP mean that I can no longer view youtube or other streaming video except in bits and pieces and audio streams are totally silent.

But the Washington 'live' link worked just fine. [Smile]

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Originally posted by Frito Bandito:
There was also, surprisingly, somewhat less self-conscious "Catholic Amish" attitudes in the pews where all modern styles of dress are rejected in favor of clothes that look like that worn by polygamous Mormons. I see this sort of thing ALL THE TIME in Tridentine masses in the United States, and it is quite absurd.

We have the "Orthodox Amish" too. Some kind of attraction to denim skirts and kerchiefs [Biased] Like modesty means having to look like 19th century Russian peasants (and even they did not look like that!)

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Originally posted by LQ:
There's also this (which I think has been linked to before). The army of apparently decorative little boys in surplices frightens me a little.

D'you suppose they'll get any priests out of that little army?
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