Source: (consider it)
|
Thread: Eccles: Videos & Pictures
|
Olaf
Shipmate
# 11804
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by jlg: Our current household problems with ISP mean that I can no longer view youtube or other streaming video except in bits and pieces and audio streams are totally silent.
But the Washington 'live' link worked just fine.
I've figured it out!
The bishop left it on so he could maintain a watchful eye while at Lambeth.
(I hope to hear noonday Mass at the High Altar tomorrow. Would the nearest tourist please tilt the camera slightly upward? Thanks.) [ 14. July 2008, 00:34: Message edited by: Martin L ]
Posts: 8953 | From: Ad Midwestem | Registered: Sep 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Prosfonesis: quote: Originally posted by LQ: There's also this (which I think has been linked to before). The army of apparently decorative little boys in surplices frightens me a little.
D'you suppose they'll get any priests out of that little army?
The organist isn't wearing a Mantilla
Actually - the organ sounds awful there!
Max.
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
The other thing I've noticed, why do all people at Tridentine Masses have side partings? Why don't they have people with dreadlocks, shaved heads, weird coloured hair, ear stretchers or tattoos like NORMAL churches!
Max.
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
+Chad
Staffordshire Lad
# 5645
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Max.: Why don't they have people with dreadlocks, shaved heads, weird coloured hair...
What do you think is under all those mantillas?
-------------------- Chad (The + is silent)
Where there is tea there is hope.
Posts: 2698 | From: The Backbone of England | Registered: Mar 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
Edgeman
Shipmate
# 12867
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Max.: The other thing I've noticed, why do all people at Tridentine Masses have side partings? Why don't they have people with dreadlocks, shaved heads, weird coloured hair, ear stretchers or tattoos like NORMAL churches!
Max.
You've never been to Mater Ecclesiae in New Jersey. Of course, this is the SSPX. There are few, if any normal people there.
-------------------- http://sacristyxrat.tumblr.com/
Posts: 1420 | From: Philadelphia Penns. | Registered: Jul 2007
| IP: Logged
|
|
Extol
Shipmate
# 11865
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by St.Silas the carter: You've never been to Mater Ecclesiae in New Jersey.
I certainly have, and noted the same "Amish Catholic" tendencies that FB notes above. Nary a punk rock accessory in sight. In fact, I got static there for bringing a wife with no mantilla and a daughter in pants.
Posts: 1287 | From: New Jersey | Registered: Sep 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
Olaf
Shipmate
# 11804
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Brian M: I certainly have, and noted the same "Amish Catholic" tendencies that FB notes above. Nary a punk rock accessory in sight. In fact, I got static there for bringing a wife with no mantilla and a daughter in pants.
I don't want to move onto tangent here, so I'll post my question on the Random Questions thread here.
Posts: 8953 | From: Ad Midwestem | Registered: Sep 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by St.Silas the carter: quote: Originally posted by Max.: The other thing I've noticed, why do all people at Tridentine Masses have side partings? Why don't they have people with dreadlocks, shaved heads, weird coloured hair, ear stretchers or tattoos like NORMAL churches!
Max.
You've never been to Mater Ecclesiae in New Jersey. Of course, this is the SSPX. There are few, if any normal people there.
They sound like the sort of people who would find Rock music to be a dangerous influence.
Max.
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
leo
Shipmate
# 1458
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Max.: quote: Originally posted by St.Silas the carter: quote: Originally posted by Max.: The other thing I've noticed, why do all people at Tridentine Masses have side partings? Why don't they have people with dreadlocks, shaved heads, weird coloured hair, ear stretchers or tattoos like NORMAL churches!
Max.
You've never been to Mater Ecclesiae in New Jersey. Of course, this is the SSPX. There are few, if any normal people there.
They sound like the sort of people who would find Rock music to be a dangerous influence.
Max.
I know a SSPX bloke who is a heavy metal fanatic and has a pony tail.
-------------------- My Jewish-positive lectionary blog is at http://recognisingjewishrootsinthelectionary.wordpress.com/ My reviews at http://layreadersbookreviews.wordpress.com
Posts: 23198 | From: Bristol | Registered: Oct 2001
| IP: Logged
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
Well there you go
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
SeraphimSarov
Shipmate
# 4335
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Max.: quote: Originally posted by St.Silas the carter: quote: Originally posted by Max.: The other thing I've noticed, why do all people at Tridentine Masses have side partings? Why don't they have people with dreadlocks, shaved heads, weird coloured hair, ear stretchers or tattoos like NORMAL churches!
Max.
You've never been to Mater Ecclesiae in New Jersey. Of course, this is the SSPX. There are few, if any normal people there.
They sound like the sort of people who would find Rock music to be a dangerous influence.
Max.
yeah, the thing is you can't generalize (as leo has pointed out) The funniest, hippest and campiest friend I have is also the most traditionalist in Faith
-------------------- "For those who like that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing they like"
Posts: 2247 | From: Sacramento, California | Registered: Apr 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
Mockingbird
Mimus polyglottos navis
# 5818
|
Posted
My Christmas video has a few frames of Ecclesiantical interest:
- In the Connecticut church, notice the box pews with little doors on them, as well as the very traditional communion table and west gallery. I don't know what the embroidered curtain behind the communion table is called, other than "embroidered curtain behind the communion table."
- In the close-up of the Advent wreath, it is clearly seen that the rose candle is the longest, suggesting that my parents used the rose candle for the 4th Sunday that year. This is interesting since my parents as much traditionalists as I am.
-------------------- Forţon we sealon efestan ţas Easterlican ţing to asmeagenne and to gehealdanne, ţaet we magon cuman to ţam Easterlican daege, ţe aa byđ, mid fullum glaedscipe and wynsumnysse and ecere blisse.
Posts: 1443 | From: Between Broken Bow and Black Mesa | Registered: Apr 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
The Silent Acolyte
Shipmate
# 1158
|
Posted
Mockingbird, I can't view the video, but might the cloth be called a dossal cloth or dossal curtain?
Posts: 7462 | From: The New World | Registered: Aug 2001
| IP: Logged
|
|
Mockingbird
Mimus polyglottos navis
# 5818
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Prosfonesis: Mockingbird, I can't view the video, but might the cloth be called a dossal cloth or dossal curtain?
Thanks! I think that would have to be the word for it, as long as calling it a dossal cloth doesn't automatically imply east-facing celebration. For at this church the president faces the congregation. [ 21. July 2008, 03:30: Message edited by: Mockingbird ]
-------------------- Forţon we sealon efestan ţas Easterlican ţing to asmeagenne and to gehealdanne, ţaet we magon cuman to ţam Easterlican daege, ţe aa byđ, mid fullum glaedscipe and wynsumnysse and ecere blisse.
Posts: 1443 | From: Between Broken Bow and Black Mesa | Registered: Apr 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
|
Low Treason
Shipmate
# 11924
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Max.: The transformation of a Church.
Max.
Gosh!!!! Changing Rooms!!!!
Carol Smillie lives!!!
Even Laurence Llewellyn Bowen would be hard pressed to design anything quite as tacky as that!!
-------------------- He brought me to the banqueting house, and His banner over me was love.
Posts: 1914 | From: UK | Registered: Oct 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
It's NOT tacky! It's Catholicism at it's very best!
I'm totally going to sulk now!
Max.
I take it you watched the WHOLE video and didn't just look at the first scene! It starts with a really tacky altar design and changed it to a really beautiful mural! [ 23. July 2008, 10:11: Message edited by: Max. ]
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
Emma Louise
Storm in a teapot
# 3571
|
Posted
Hmm - Max, I've tried to look at it but theres no way to forward to the end! He's interesting to listen to but after about 5 minutes I've had enough!!!
Posts: 12719 | From: Enid Blyton territory. | Registered: Nov 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
Low Treason
Shipmate
# 11924
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Max.: It's NOT tacky! It's Catholicism at it's very best!
I'm totally going to sulk now!
Max.
I take it you watched the WHOLE video and didn't just look at the first scene! It starts with a really tacky altar design and changed it to a really beautiful mural!
No Max.
It started with a really tacky altar design and it added a really tacky mural.
-------------------- He brought me to the banqueting house, and His banner over me was love.
Posts: 1914 | From: UK | Registered: Oct 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
Extol
Shipmate
# 11865
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Max.: The transformation of a Church.
Max.
Poor Blessed John XXIII. Unfairly appropriated by Art Institute-educated hacks who don't understand the first letter of the Conciliar documents written under his watch. Now he is frozen on the wall of an Immaculate Barnes and Noble Café.
Posts: 1287 | From: New Jersey | Registered: Sep 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Emma Louise: Hmm - Max, I've tried to look at it but theres no way to forward to the end! He's interesting to listen to but after about 5 minutes I've had enough!!!
Let it load and then you can slide the slider along the bottom
Max.
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
Edgeman
Shipmate
# 12867
|
Posted
It's not really that bad. I would have liked something more like This, But at least you can tell what it is. I think. There are lots of things that are comparatively worse.
Posts: 1420 | From: Philadelphia Penns. | Registered: Jul 2007
| IP: Logged
|
|
Anselmina
Ship's barmaid
# 3032
|
Posted
I think it's quite arresting, and not in a bad way. I think it would probably have done better in a much bigger worship area. It dominates the sanctuary too much, imo. But it's a huge improvement from what was there before, and I imagine it could well invoke a real sense of worship being special.
That's a response to Max's 'Transformation of a church' by the way. [ 24. July 2008, 01:43: Message edited by: Anselmina ]
-------------------- Irish dogs needing homes! http://www.dogactionwelfaregroup.ie/ Greyhounds and Lurchers are shipped over to England for rehoming too!
Posts: 10002 | From: Scotland the Brave | Registered: Jul 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Anselmina: I think it's quite arresting, and not in a bad way. I think it would probably have done better in a much bigger worship area. It dominates the sanctuary too much, imo. But it's a huge improvement from what was there before, and I imagine it could well invoke a real sense of worship being special.
That's a response to Max's 'Transformation of a church' by the way.
It's a very very big worship space though, with a large number of seats (it's set up in a very similar way to a theatre with galleried seats). The Church is also fairly important and receives a LOT of visitors.
Max.
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
Random Cathoholic
Shipmate
# 13129
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Max.: It's NOT tacky!
I agree. I don't think it is tacky. It's not my saucepan of haddock, and I think that it is a bit too big for its location, and Blessed John XXIII looks a bit creepy, but by-and-large it is a good mural. And I think that the two side paintings are excellently realised.
Posts: 598 | Registered: Nov 2007
| IP: Logged
|
|
Anselmina
Ship's barmaid
# 3032
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Max.: quote: Originally posted by Anselmina: I think it's quite arresting, and not in a bad way. I think it would probably have done better in a much bigger worship area. It dominates the sanctuary too much, imo. But it's a huge improvement from what was there before, and I imagine it could well invoke a real sense of worship being special.
That's a response to Max's 'Transformation of a church' by the way.
It's a very very big worship space though, with a large number of seats (it's set up in a very similar way to a theatre with galleried seats). The Church is also fairly important and receives a LOT of visitors.
Max.
I see. It looks a bit squashed, but still impressive, in the video.
And sure aren't all churches important?
Posts: 10002 | From: Scotland the Brave | Registered: Jul 2002
| IP: Logged
|
|
Shadowhund
Shipmate
# 9175
|
Posted
Here are snippets of John Paul II reciting the Eucharistic Prayer at St. Peter's. The video cuts off everything between the memorial acclamation and the Our Father.
Although the youtube clip doesn't say so, the mass took place on June 29, 1985 in which Herbert von Karajan and the Vienna Philharmonic offered the Mozart Coronation Mass. It is one of my more highly-prized DVDs.
-------------------- "Had the Dean's daughter worn a bra that afternoon, Norman Shotover might never have found out about the Church of England; still less about how to fly"
A.N. Wilson
Posts: 3788 | From: Your Disquieted Conscience | Registered: Mar 2005
| IP: Logged
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Frito Bandito: Here are snippets of John Paul II reciting the Eucharistic Prayer at St. Peter's. The video cuts off everything between the memorial acclamation and the Our Father.
Max. approves
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
Maybe - but this video from WYD is Major Win!
Max.
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
SeraphimSarov
Shipmate
# 4335
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Max.: Maybe - but this video from WYD is Major Win!
Max.
Megachurch tripe. How can you compare that to MOzart? Seriously!
-------------------- "For those who like that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing they like"
Posts: 2247 | From: Sacramento, California | Registered: Apr 2003
| IP: Logged
|
|
Mother Julian
Ship's librarian
# 11978
|
Posted
Ethiopian Orthodox worship in Liverpool here. (Video,still pics and explanatory text). The YouTube listing here allows you to select high quality video as well.
-------------------- The corn was orient and immortal wheat which never should be reaped, nor was ever sown.
Posts: 359 | From: the banks of the mighty River Mersey | Registered: Oct 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
Olaf
Shipmate
# 11804
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Mother Julian: Ethiopian Orthodox worship in Liverpool here. (Video,still pics and explanatory text). The YouTube listing here allows you to select high quality video as well.
If you're interested in all things Coptic, by all means check out the live webcasts here. I'm not sure if anything is archived, but I know I've seen it live once or twice. Sit in a comfortable chair because you'll be there for quite a while.
And how cool is the name Shenouda?!
Posts: 8953 | From: Ad Midwestem | Registered: Sep 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
The Scrumpmeister
Ship’s Taverner
# 5638
|
Posted
I thought I'd share this splendid video of part of the Paschal Canon.
-------------------- If Christ is not fully human, humankind is not fully saved. - St John of Saint-Denis
Posts: 14741 | From: Greater Manchester, UK | Registered: Mar 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
Knopwood
Shipmate
# 11596
|
Posted
I love this psalm setting. I'm trying to convince Max. to have it at the blessing of our union, but I fear it's a tad too traditional for him!
Posts: 6806 | From: Tio'tia:ke | Registered: Jun 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
leo
Shipmate
# 1458
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by LQ: I love this psalm setting. I'm trying to convince Max. to have it at the blessing of our union, but I fear it's a tad too traditional for him!
Yes, I like that chant but not those wobbly women's voices!
I think Max might fear that, in the words of the Psalm, 'the earth be moved' - maybe upon the consummation of your union - because I have always assumed that Max is str8.
-------------------- My Jewish-positive lectionary blog is at http://recognisingjewishrootsinthelectionary.wordpress.com/ My reviews at http://layreadersbookreviews.wordpress.com
Posts: 23198 | From: Bristol | Registered: Oct 2001
| IP: Logged
|
|
Knopwood
Shipmate
# 11596
|
Posted
Well, you know what they say about assuming. In fact I'm up to my nuts in Citizenship & Immigration Canada literature as we speak preparing for the big event. Your prayers, of course, are requested. [ 10. November 2008, 19:42: Message edited by: LQ ]
Posts: 6806 | From: Tio'tia:ke | Registered: Jun 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by LQ: I love this psalm setting. I'm trying to convince Max. to have it at the blessing of our union, but I fear it's a tad too traditional for him!
Dude! That's not what we agreed with on the phone! If only you asked, I wouldn't have a problem with it but you vetoed my suggestion for our Entrance Song so... why should we do that? Skype me dude. x
Max. [ 10. November 2008, 20:03: Message edited by: Max. ]
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
Knopwood
Shipmate
# 11596
|
Posted
We're so not there yet! The liturgy is going to have to be a real hash to accomodate both of us.
I doubt, however, it'll be a Mass, simply because we come from different Eucharistic disciplines.
I'm pushing for Solemn Evensong and Benediction, but Max. wants something he calls "Charismatic Benediction". (sigh)
Posts: 6806 | From: Tio'tia:ke | Registered: Jun 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
Lietuvos Sv. Kazimieras
Shipmate
# 11274
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by Prosfonesis: Are you boys gonna have maniples?
That's bound to be another irreconcilable difference!
Posts: 7328 | From: Delaware | Registered: Apr 2006
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
We're not having it in the context of a Eucharistic Celebration, I'm not even sure if I'm totally comfortable with having Benediction at this event. It's early days... XD
And yes... we did keep it a secret for a while
Max.
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
Max.
Shipmate
# 5846
|
Posted
quote: Originally posted by St.Silas the carter: Let's see who can find the three things wrong with This video.
Bad Timing, Bad Improvisation, Bad Singing, Buff Notes, Lost looking congregation, Undeserved Applause, Organ is in the wrong place, There are no pipes on the Organ, Lack of music when the organist needs it the most.....
enough for you?
Max.
-------------------- For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world.
Posts: 9716 | From: North Yorkshire | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged
|
|